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|'''Review author:'''<br />
|[http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/william-seagate William Seagate]; contributions by [http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/lesbot Lesbot]<br />
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|'''Title:'''<br />
|[http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays/ Better Days]<br />
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|'''Author:'''<br />
|[http://www.jaynaylor.com/ Jay Naylor] (I strongly advise you against clicking that link) who left an [[Angry_Reactions#Original_Life|Angry Reaction]] to the [[Original Life]] review; [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Jay_Naylor wikifur article]<br />
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|'''Start Date:'''<br />
|April 18, 2003<br />
|-<br />
|'''End Date:'''<br />
|May 29, 2009<br />
|-<br />
|'''Genre:'''<br />
|Furry Right-Wing Entertainment (Fetish, Furry, Political in that order).<br />
|-<br />
|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
|Propaganda and Political Punditry, Excessive Fan Service and Sexuality.<br />
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|'''Awful stuff:'''<br />
|Unmitigated right-wing soapboxing, mixed with excessive fan service and sex, excessive use of Wall Of Text, weak propagandist writing, stereotypical characters, straw man arguments, and boring, self-contradictory writing.<br />
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|'''Things that could use a hand:'''<br />
|Character designs are inventive and expressions are nicely suited for both comedy and drama, but they lose their charm when sporting giant penises or constantly engaging in TEH SEX. Actions are a little ''stiff'' too, heh heh.<br />
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|'''Summary:'''<br />
|A very, very confusing tale about a bunch of contradictory right-wing poster boys living in Republicanland, U.S.A., who constantly express hatred for the very things they end up doing. An arrogant self-portrayal of Republicans, IN YIFF-VISION!!<br />
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|'''Art:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
Nice and cute, but not necessarily suited to this type of comic.<br />
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|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
Starts off as a story about twin feline siblings of a widowed mother, but the story later takes on a much darker tone.<br />
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|'''Characters:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
The main characters are twin feline siblings who get more unlikable as they grow up; everyone else is a straw man.<br />
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|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
This comic is akin to [[Sabrina Online]] in that it uses cutesy fuzzy animal characters for entertainment meant for adults.<br />
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|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
Good potential that ends up being used for twisted purposes.<br />
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{{Quote|'''REVIEWER'S NOTE: In the interest of showing you as much Naylor politically-crazy material as possible in this short review, you will be treated to a banner about how much Naylor loves everything he talks about every so often. In doing so, this review is officially NSFW.'''}}<br />
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==Background==<br />
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Part of building your personality is setting your values and thoughts in order. This is '''very''' important. One could certainly run afoul in a medium like the Internet if you don't get you own ideas straight. You need to own up and stand your ground, because you're surely get laughed out of many places if you're not fucking sure of what you are.<br />
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Jay Naylor, through his webcomic ''Better Days'', shows us he's quite confused about himself. You see, he's a hard-breathing, red-blooded Objectivist Republican American... who's also a ''furry''. A guy who likes, and I mean LIKE-LIKES, drawing animals in suggestive poses, and actually makes a living selling pornography. It all seems very contradictory, and his webcomic isn't any better. Better Days is like the "American Dad!" of webcomics: it shows the life of a would-be family of hot-blooded Republicans who, despite spouting all that redneck ideology, keep showing us how they are ambiguous jerks just like the rest of us. "My father the soldier is a bigger person than any of you; Democrats are a bunch of commies; homosexuality is a choice (the WRONG choice) and, by the way, I have sex with my sister. ''U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.!''"<br />
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[[File:naylor-women.png|thumb|700px|center]]<br />
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==Story and Plot==<br />
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''Better Days'' is the story of Lucy and Fisk, two cat twins that were raised by a widowed mom in an American town of 1980's Georgia. The comic essentially portrays different (initially isolated) moments of their lives in each chapter, starting with their childhood. The first chapters portray Fisk's first comic approaches to women and several dramatic moments, such as Fisk being responsible for Lucy getting sick, his mother fighting with his school, and him having sex at an early age. Lucy also goes through some hardships, as she gets cheated by an older guy, becomes increasingly attracted to her brother, is cheated on again, and has a pregnancy scare. The comic then pulls into the present: Fisk becomes a soldier and Lucy starts knocking boots in college. And all the time, there's lots of Republican idiocy and, of course, YIFF!!!<br />
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==Downfall==<br />
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Starting on Chapter 4, things become increasingly political (and ''sexier!''). The whole idea of ideology discussions with Fisk's teacher, leading to a dubious relationship with the school principal, descending into rape, ending in murder, followed by hyper-sexualism, taken to incest, and with the addition of infidelity, seems like a rough ride for the young ones. In the first half of the comic, sexual tension and drama escalate ridiculously for the setting, and the presentation starts getting bland. And as if time shifts didn't make Fisk and Lucy's ages nebulous enough, they handle these scars almost too well or matter-of-factly for young people. There's some crying, there's constant rehashed speeches about their dead father, but pretty much all is done with a straight face. Maybe even irony.<br />
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Eventually, the story jumps ahead to college, where Lucy gets meets new friends and engages in new situations that can be thoroughly criticized with quotes from the Republican Manifesto and Ayn Rand. Also, Fisk becomes a soldier, then a godless mercenary, so nothing is left out. Promiscuity, cheating, religion, journalistic integrity, war, suicide, big genitals, patriotism, art, secret agents, stripping, drugs - they're all here!<br />
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==Art review==<br />
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[[File:BetterDaysAss.png|thumb|400px|right]]The art in this comic is a real puzzle. On one hand, it's nice and cute. Really. It's cartoonish, well-produced anthropomorphism with genuine improvement over the course of the comic. Naylor has a pretty good grasp of what he's doing. However, this fluffy squishy style isn't a good medium to get across deep plots and drama. The big round eyes are a good fit for over-the-top expressions in comedy, but for drama it may be hard to succeed if the guys look bewildered and goofy all the time. Although the action is varied, it sometimes looks forced. Some positions are quite stiff (I can't get past the [http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays/archives/2004/02/post-86.html doorbell] [http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays/archives/2004/02/post-91.html poses]), and for an artist that tries to reflect a variety of people many character designs seem a bit limited and repeated. I sometimes feel a little confused with his whole approach to turning races into different animal species. Americans are both cats and dogs? Russians are mice? Asians are ''also'' cats? And what are rabbits supposed to be? Still, Naylor kind of pulls it together. By webcomic standards, the art quality is quite OK.<br />
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Its drawings are pretty, but then again, ''they feel so dirty''. The cuddly-wuddly drawings are used for all kinds of [http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays/archives/2009/01/chapter-24-men-5.html sexual intercourse], for [http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays/archives/2005/11/chapter-13-thic-9.html heavy tops], [http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays/archives/2005/05/chapter-12-exem-10.html abundant asses], [http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays/archives/2008/03/chapter-20-the-26.html talking genitals], [http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays/archives/2003/04/post-4.html cryptic sounds], and [http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays/archives/2007/01/chapter-17-tria-16.html crude war depictions]. It's used for both [http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays/archives/2007/11/chapter-19-part-31.html female] and [http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays/archives/2007/10/chapter-19-part-27.html male] strippers, for [http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays/archives/2007/10/chapter-19-part-24.html unrestricted ass-slapping], and for [http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays/archives/2004/09/chapter-10-brot-16.html incest].<br />
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It feels really embarrassing to see those kind of things are done by such cute characters. It's like watching ''My Little Pony'' characters wondering about killing someone or sleeping with their sisters in a non-exclusive relationship. The whole combination of cute fluff with sex sex sex is the kind of shock material that drives away both new and casual readers, specially those who are not so tolerant of the whole furry scene. But, well, I guess no one really aims for a broad audience when they make a habit of illustrating [http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays/archives/2005/07/chapter-12-exem-26.html THIS] and [http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays/archives/2007/11/chapter-19-part-36.html THIS]. There's even an uncensored, colored drawing of many girls in the cast admiring the guy's package, in case you thought it was just a little running gag.<br />
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I don't mean to condemn sex or sexuality in a comic. I also don't mean to condemn Naylor solely for being a porn artist or a furry. However, I think it's pretty obvious that Naylor considers Better Days as some sort of "gateway comic". An introduction to the style to his other works and thoughts. Naylor Light, if you will. Of course, since porn comics have much simpler plots than some webcomics (yes, only some), he needs ''something else'' to talk about. Can you imagine where this is going?<br />
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==Writing review==<br />
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[[File:BD-Lucy-Lie.jpg|thumb|300px|left|It's all a LIE.]]<br />
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The writing of this comic is where Naylor flourishes as an indecisive fuck who really isn't entirely right or left, but has some twisted ideology he invented himself out of the ancient ideal that "what I say goes, motherfucker!". But let's take it slow. There are just so many things to say about Naylor that it will help both your sanity and mine if we label and organize things.<br />
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'''Characterization:''' Lucy and Fisk are the main characters throughout the whole comic. They started as poor little kittens born to a widow in a time where ''most people would've aborted them!'' It's a really negative perspective, but I was willing to take that as a valid characterization. However, said story is pretty much the only thing their loving mother can say about her kids. She just repeats it all the time in the first five or so chapters, for any reason at all. Well, if a mother thinks so, there must really be nothing else to talk about to them.<br />
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''Fisk'', though childish at the start, is also depicted as the man of the house. He tries to be strong and brave because he has no father to rely on, and he deals with many life challenges alone. It sounds a lot better than it actually is. Little Fisk is initially just a misbehaving character, and we're even treated to a Calvin and Hobbes-like attitude in Chapters 2 and 4. However, he grows a beard after almost killing her sister. Then he loses it all again when a girl has sex with him. Then he regains it with Elizabeth. Then he loses it again. His personality dangles back and forth until he becomes dizzy and turns into nothing. By the time he grows up he's vacant-minded and silent. Did Naylor become bored of him? I mean, he's supposedly a war-hardened super soldier and then a grenade-tossing mercenary who can do whatever he wants. Yet, most of the time, he's just silent and boring. What the fuck, Naylor?<br />
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Then there's ''Lucy''. She's initially the "growing pains" girl. However, Naylor takes whatever cue he saw and made her obsessed with sex. Who to fuck, why to fuck, open relationships, infidelity, sex dreams, obsessions, strippers, and the occasional craving for her brother... everything adult-like starts pouring out of her once innocent lips. It doesn't help that most of their friends share her kinks and are very active about it. But I don't really know. I'm just not one of those "hip" and "cool" (makes outdated hand gestures) guys who spend all day humping women. That tends to happen because I'm part of the 98% of the world that doesn't actually think of sex every fucking second. Lucy has her head so deep in it that almost every love plot line in the comic connects to her, to the point that it's a little unsettling. Other than that, she's Fisk with breasts.<br />
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Secondary characters are universally both plain and indefinite to the point of contradiction. Most are just a foil for the main characters to use or targets for the most recent rant against all evil in the world. Sometimes even important characters crumble so that Fisk and Lucy have someone to shout at. Like when Elizabeth realized her whole life was pandering to her family, because Lucy said so. Also, an army friend of Fisk wanted to kill himself, but it was just ranting fodder for Fisk to use, throw away, and never look back to. Nothing is sacred outside the cat twins, not even their mother. She is hated by Fisk having an affair that destroyed Fisk's friendship with a guy ''we had never seen before'' in the comic. They never really reconcile. Connections established between other characters and Lucy and/or Fisk reach ridiculous levels. [http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays/archives/2009/02/chapter-24-men-18.html Here], Lucy becomes the topic of relationship conflicts for some other couple. A little self-important, aren't we?<br />
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'''Plot Structure and Development:''' The comic's format started simple: episodic chapters of isolated or thinly related moments in Fisk and Lucy's lives. Nothing wrong there, but the formulaic nature of the stories soon got boring. Every early chapter ended with some huge rant because Naylor could only express his point with huge Walls of Text. There was even some sort of The Sopranos ripoff where Fisk had to see a psychologist, but she pretty much agreed with him on everything, so it was no different than talking to his sister or a wall. Also, the webcomic is plagued with references to the twin's dead father, who seems like the only thing that would've saved the twins from their many stupid decisions. <br />
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Whatever ridiculous amount of hardships and scars are present in Lucy and Fisk's lives, they look pretty shallow, and are dealt around with a straight face. They either push a Reset button or solve everything off-panel. Later chapters are even worse, turning into the equivalent of a crude "Monster of the Week" show (except with topics instead of creatures), in which people pretty much talk about any trivial thing until one of the twins comes and gives their ultimate statement. Many of the characters introduced in those chapters disappear into oblivion, briefly existing as sounding boards for expressing a message. Some chapters are simple to the point that the upcoming rant is implicit in the title, so you can pretty much guess what will happen. You are only left wondering the name and species of the soon-to-disappear new characters.<br />
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'''Personal Opinions in the Comic:''' I've seen bias, lack of contrasted opinions, nationalism, dualism, Manichaeism, ideology, partisanship, intense patriotism, straw man arguments, exaggeration, pandering, interests, unfounded opinions, beliefs, subjectivity... but damn. All of those pale in the face of ''Better Days'' and its function as a soap box for Naylor to display his insane thoughts on... well, EVERYTHING. Tolerance be damned! Anyone who doesn't subscribe unconditionally to Naylor's gun-toting, ultraconservative-individualist-objectivist, stars-and-stripes Republican Fox News nationalism must be questioned, ridiculed, blown away, condemned, attacked, forgotten, or even killed for their wickedness. They had it coming. Naylor, through his crack team of sock puppets, fucking rocks your face.<br />
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To make a specific example, let's take [http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays/archives/chapter-8-chess/ the chapter about Vietnam War]. Not bad. I could agree with some of his points ''if they were made by anybody else''. Naylor can turn the simplest arguments into crazy shit through his horrible reasoning. I could understand that the USA entered Vietnam in the interest of halting the violent advance of Communism in mainland Asia. I may even praise the idea that they combat dictatorships overseas instead of breeding their own in Latin America (shout out to my peeps in Paraguay, Panama, Argentina, and Chile!). But Naylor is too stupid to make a case for this. He boils it down to saying: "We good, they bad. We must conquer the world to protect it!"<br />
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Not only does he decide that his beliefs are universal laws, but any alternatives are both wrong and '''EVIL'''. He believes in bad men (other than him) who constantly devise ways being evil and hurting their own people ''just for the heck of it''! Remember, this is the same guy who loves [http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays/archives/2004/03/post-94.html guns] and [http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays/archives/2008/03/chapter-20-the-27.html internal combustion engines], two pieces of technology that are currently used inappropriately and are killing people and destroying the environment. Even though there are sane counterarguments to what I just said, he's so mind-fucked that his only response would boil down to "USA rocks!" followed by ethnic slurs.<br />
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'''Mary-Sue and Wish Fulfillment:''' I've already pointed out basic Mary-Sue and Wish Fulfillment examples all-around, so let's use this space for deeper thoughts. Thanks to [http://dammitfreehaven.com/fisk/res/5647.html a post on the LOLjectivism board], people now know that Naylor's hate is also of the irrational, ''specific'' variety. [http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays/archives/2006/08/chapter-16-lucy-8.html These two characters], who compete with Lucy in Chapter 16 for the internship, are not just random straw men who lack professionalism and journalistic integrity. They satirize <u>two actual people that disagreed with Naylor at FurryMUCK</u>. Because they actually told Naylor to shut up and stop being such a dick, he set out to [http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays/archives/2006/09/chapter-16-lucy-13.html mock] and destroy them in his own comic, where [http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays/archives/2006/09/chapter-16-lucy-15.html shit is put inside their mouths] and they are [http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays/archives/2006/10/chapter-16-lucy-26.html engineered to be hated] by the comic's audience for a full ''32 pages''. Way to hold a grudge, you immature fuck. I guess this means that if he gets offended by this review, he'll just make some mock-up character of me who gets stoned down by Fisk. Or he'll just whine about me in his LiveJournal. So next time you read the chapters about the oppressive teacher or the terrorist pedophile or the modern art incoherent asswipes, dig deeper into those plain target-characters. Some may resemble an actual person that Naylor hates with all his guts.<br />
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==Author biography==<br />
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[[File:NaylorITG.jpg|thumb|300px|right|Watch out everybody, we've got a badass over here.]]<br />
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Jay Naylor is an artist from Atlanta, Georgia. Besides ''Better Days'' (and its sequel, [[Original Life]]), he also runs a webcomic called ''New Worlds''. There's rumors of a non-furry comic that has been in hiatus for some years. He is self-employed drawing adult works and comics which he sells on his website. He has a members-only blog where he shows some of his latest sketches and a public LiveJournal Blog, where he communicates to us his up-to's and other things on his head. Naylor considers himself an Objectivist, an adherent to the philosophy developed by novelist Ayn Rand.<br />
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Naylor is commonly known for being (in the sweetest terms available to me) a dick. He has a track history of wreaking havoc in places with his constant negative thoughts about and rants against people who have disagreed with him. Perhaps one of the strangest cases revolves around the character of Lucy Black. Originally, ''Better Days'' came around with the help of a friend of Naylor, Mat Sherer, the creator of the webcomic ''Badly Drawn Kitties''. Not only was he an early supporter of Naylor, but in fact, <u>Lucy Black and Sheila Black are Mat Sherer's creations</u>. Naylor himself acknowledged it in some of his early portfolios and drawings. Naylor only owns Fisk, the brother of Lucy, who also appeared in the comics prior to the ''Better Days'' series. Better Days started about ''a year after BDK''. What's more, Sherer is the one who first brought up the concept of Fisk and Lucy being in an incestuous relationship. Naylor's comic thus started as a sort of prequel with more focus on Fisk than Lucy, and trying to tie in with some of Sherer's ideas.<br />
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At some point, there was a disagreement and later a parting between the two artists because of political disagreements. My guess is that it had something to do with Sherer's storyline in which BDK's Lucy moved out of USA after Bush was reelected. From Naylor's point of view, this was not only unfunny, but complete treason and an "Un-American" thing to do. It was from this point that both Naylor and Sherer broke continuities between their comics. Sherer killed off Fisk in his comic, making BDK's Lucy and Sheila rich from the insurance payoffs and even more convinced to throw away their American citizenship. Naylor started to modify and concentrate more on his Lucy to make it different from the one in BDK (here's where her sex drive fired up). Naylor's Fisk was also given a new job that drove him off the battlefield, and the sequel ''Original Life'' (''oh my god...'') will have him married with kids.<br />
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So, summing things up: he's crazy, a nuisance, a dick, and he also stole both characters and story from another guy. Not only that, but he now continues to use Lucy to his profitable works, and hell, he might not even credit Sherer anymore. How nice it is to break up a friendship over childish arguments, but still keep the other guy's stuff and profit from it. Naylor is such a darling...<br />
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==Conclusion==<br />
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In the end, ''Better Days'' turned out to be quite a strange webcomic. Works of art are supposed to show us not only the message they carry, but also show us the true face of the artist who made it. Now, I'm not calling this art. Not even my high school philosophy teacher would be willing to call it art. However, given that this comic is all a lot of talk and glitter with no real substance, and values and thoughts are so fucked up, I can comfortably say that Naylor is the same. Despite his best efforts, he can't manage to make his characters, stories, or thoughts likable to his audience, and almost every reader leaves ''Better Days'' pissed off.<br />
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[[File:BD638.09-05-25.gif|thumb|400px|center|Newlyweds planning their honeymoon.]]<br />
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As was the case with [[Dominic Deegan]], this comic primarily pissed me off because it had limitless '''''wasted''''' potential. Had it limited itself to simpler, comic stories it would've been able to exploit its cutesy art, rather than whore it out to endless violence and sex peppered with pieces of Naylor's twisted mind. All in all, there was only stale comedy, uninteresting drama, and irrational, lackluster action. [http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays/archives/chapter-25-bett/ The ending is pretty infuriating], as rather than make any adequate final chapter, he just chucked out a few pages where he quickly wraps up Fisk's end and blurts out that he's gonna have a family. Naylor [http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays/archives/2009/05/chapter-25-bett-9.html closed the door] with much worse writing and skills than anyone would've guessed from looking at the [http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays/archives/2003/04/post-2.html first page] of his comic.<br />
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Here's to [http://www.jaynaylor.com/originallife/ Original Life] ''(please...)'', a comic we hope will be just as disappointing, alienating, and shorthanded as its predecessor.<br />
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Thank you, and good night.<br />
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==Other comics by this person reviewed on this site==<br />
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* [[Original Life]]<br />
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==Links==<br />
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* [http://web.archive.org/web/20061207103103/http://www.crushyiffdestroy.com/show/bdays Crush Yiff Destroy's review]. ''Outdated, but has some dead-on predictions about the way the comic unfolded.''<br />
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[[Category: Webcomics]]</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Zen_Pencils&diff=32738Zen Pencils2018-08-08T23:58:55Z<p>DentsAndDings: /* Author biography */</p>
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|'''Original review author:'''<br />
| {{oddguy}}<br />
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|'''Webcomic name:'''<br />
| [http://zenpencils.com/ Zen Pencils]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Author:'''<br />
| [http://gavinaungthan.com/ Gavin Aung Than]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Start Date:'''<br />
| January 30, 2012<br />
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|'''End Date:'''<br />
| Continually slogging along<br />
|-<br />
|'''Genre:'''<br />
| One part Hallmark greeting card, one part faux-inspirational "Hang in there" kitty poster, 100% pretension<br />
|-<br />
|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
| I'm afraid to say this webcomic has any flaws because Gav might kill me and scribble "ART" on the walls of his house with my blood<br />
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'''Rating Summary'''<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable" style="width:600px"><br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Art:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
The art isn't bad or great but it also isn't the problem.<br />
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|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
There aren't many "Storylines", but when there are it just makes you wish Gavin would go back to his insipid "Inspirational" comics.<br />
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|'''Characters:'''<br />
|Not applicable.<br />
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|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
Does Gavin not make enough money from this webcomic to host it on a site that doesn't crash while loading?<br />
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|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
Gets an extra point for not being drawn with stick figures. But it's really not worth reading.<br />
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==Background and Downfall==<br />
[[File:Stokoe.png|thumb|left|200px|What James Stokoe thinks of this comic]]<br />
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The background and the downfall of this comic are pretty intertwined and not very complicated so I might as well just explain them both together.<br />
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The long and short of it is simply that this comic was always bad, I never liked it and, much like in [[So... You're a Cartoonist?]] (which I also reviewed), an ill-advised change of pace for the comic made it go from bad to worse and therefore worth reviewing.<br />
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In the case of Tom Preston, the change was an attempt to write plotted stories instead of gag strips, and similarly, ZP earned the ire of internet users everywhere when its creator attempted to stop making his lazy motivational posters for a spell and try his hand at an original story. Not to get ahead of ourselves I'll just say that the topic of the new comic was his declaration of war against internet trolls in the most insane way possible.<br />
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==Art review==<br />
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The art is okay in my opinion. Nothing too fancy, the caricatures of historical figures are good enough for me to know who they are, the style switches up a bit from time to time and the quality has improved a bit since the comic started so I can't accuse it of stagnating.<br />
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It isn't amazing and at times is a little flat, but Than has a degree in graphic design so I can't say he doesn't know what he's doing.<br />
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The only negative thing I can really say about the art is that he doesn't know how to depict people from other cultures in anything but cartoonish racial stereotypes. I would accuse him of racism, but even when he draws his own race he ends up being just as bad, [http://zenpencils.com/comic/65-marianne-williamson-our-deepest-fear/ opting to draw a family of asians as literally yellow] and [http://zenpencils.com/comic/36-bruce-lee-there-are-no-limits/ Bruce Lee] as fighting caricatures of chinese martial arts masters with long beards and ponytails. All I can say is that when a variety of races appear in a single comic is feels like I'm going through the "It's A Small World" ride at Disneyland.<br />
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==Writing review== <br />
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There is a lot wrong with this comic so I think it's better if I separate this into sections.<br />
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====Misleading Content====<br />
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[[File:Zen pencils.jpg|thumb|right|300px|A man realizes the folly of racism after traveling the world and discovering that every single racial stereotype is true]]<br />
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There is no real writing in this comic. ZP is just random "inspirational" quotes presented with matching illustrations. This in and of itself is not a bad idea (but less for a webcomic and perhaps more for some sort of greeting card business, which ZP is close to being), but the exaction by Gav is horrendous.<br />
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First of all, Than has no idea what he's talking about. A lot of these quotes are out of context or with misleading cartoons added to them showing that Gavin didn't really understand them. Take for example his quotes form the [http://zenpencils.com/comic/the-dalai-lama-answers-a-question/ Dali] [http://zenpencils.com/comic/143-the-dalai-lama-we-are-all-human-beings/ Lama], one of which he never actually said. Or, better yet, take this [http://zenpencils.com/comic/william-ernest-henley-invictus/ this early comic] where Gav interprets William Henley's "Invictus" to mean "If you are getting bullied beat the bullies to death with a hammer." This comic was later continued with another three strips, but it doesn't make things better, because at no point does the kid in the comic suffer any real consequences ([http://zenpencils.com/comic/45-walt-whitman-o-me-o-life/ besides some light teasing]) and it all ends with the other kids at school forgiving him and him [http://zenpencils.com/comic/114-playing-the-game/ playing baseball with them]. Yay! A happy ending! Three cheers for premeditated attempts at homicide!<br />
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This same quote was later used again in [http://zenpencils.com/comic/140-invictus-a-comic-tribute-to-nelson-mandela/ a tribute to Nelson Mandela], forgetting that Mandela's organization murdered over 130 people. And that brings me to another problem: Hero worship is stupid because people are awful. A lot of these so-called "inspirational folks" that Gavin loves quoting so much were horrible fucking people. [http://zenpencils.com/comic/15-gandhi-the-right-state-of-mind/ Gandhi] was a racist and believed that [http://www.patheos.com/blogs/drishtikone/2013/01/gandhi-also-blamed-women-for-getting-raped-do-misogyny-and-obsession-with-sexual-purity-go-hand-in-hand/ women who get raped secretly want to get raped], [http://zenpencils.com/comic/58-living-well-is-the-best-revenge Mark Zuckerberg] wasn't some poor bulling victim but rather a giant asshole all his life and so was [http://zenpencils.com/comic/16-steve-jobs-your-time-is-limited/ Steve Jobs]. The same goes for [http://zenpencils.com/comic/47-muhammad-ali-i-know-the-truth/ Muhammad Ali] whom he quoted about five times.<br />
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But it's not just about him quoting people he had no way of knowing aren't worth idolizing (except, you know... doing a simple Google search), it feels like he doesn't know who '''any''' of the people he quotes are or what they stand for. Going so far as to [http://zenpencils.com/comic/41-ayn-rand-the-question/ quote Ayn Rand], the inventor of "Objectivism", in one of her many musings on the value of pure selfishness as some inspiring message about not giving up. And this extends not only to mere ignorance of the person's background, but all the way to blatant misrepresentation. Gavin has the gall to quote comedians [http://zenpencils.com/comic/24-george-carlin-on-assassination-explicit/ like] [http://zenpencils.com/comic/26-george-carlin-on-technology-explicit/ George] [http://zenpencils.com/comic/23-george-carlin-on-religious-hats-explicit/ Carlin] and [http://zenpencils.com/comic/95-louis-c-k-we-dont-think-about-how-we-talk/ Louis C.K] and paint their words with a rosy brush when all their works have always been brimming with contempt for their fellow man (I'm confident that's true for other comedians he quotes but I am not familiar with their work and, unlike Gavin, have no intention of pretending to be). [http://zenpencils.com/comic/25-george-carlin-on-bullshit-explicit/ He even quotes Carlin's bit on recognizing bullshit], oblivious to the fact his comics all contain exactly the kind of bullshit Carlin wanted to warn people about. And just to add insult to injury, he quotes [http://zenpencils.com/comic/14-hunter-s-thompson-buy-the-ticket/ Hunter S. Thompson] ([http://zenpencils.com/comic/43-hunter-s-thompson-the-happier-man/ twice]), illustrating his famous "Take the ride" quote as a happy little girl taking a fun little ride on a roller coaster.<br />
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I think it's important to point out that his Carlin quotes were all fired in rapid succession, and the same is true for his quotes from Ali. This leads me to suspect he would just pick out whatever famous figure he knew and would look up their page on wikiquotes. What reaffirms my suspicion is that, as time went on and the comic got more popular, he started drawing from source material that was more obscure. This can be explained by there being more submissions from his fans who were only slightly less pretentious than him, at which point he would do the same thing in reverse and, instead of looking up quotes to match the figure, he would read up a little bit about the person he just quoted so that he can pretend to know what he's talking about in the comment section at the bottom.<br />
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However, this problem has even more layers. It isn't only that Gav misunderstands quotes and misrepresents intentions, nor is it only that he fails to research the people he misquotes; he also fails to research the events surrounding them. Take for example [http://zenpencils.com/comic/68-jesse-owens-the-inevitable-battle/ this comic] where he perpetuates the myth that in the 1936 Olympics, Hitler refused to shake Jesse Owens' hand because he was mad that a black man won. In reality, Hitler didn't shake the hand of ''any'' of the contestants and, unlike president FDR who didn't even call to congratulate him, waved at Jesse and sent him a gift. So history rarely conforms to people's spiteful fantasies. <br />
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You see what I'm saying? A lot of the cults of personality around these people are undeserved, a lot of what we think we know about them isn't true, a lot of the events didn't unfold the way we were told and people regarding everything they hear as deep and profound based solely on the source without ever looking into any of it are idiots. After all, even Mother Teresa was reportedly a giant bitch.<br />
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The real issue is this: It is really easy to make people accept things as true without thinking about them if you only cite someone noteworthy as their source or say them with a sufficient air of gravity. There is one saying I think illustrates this better than anything with its vapidness and faux depth and, surprise surprise, [http://zenpencils.com/comic/94-the-two-wolves/ Gavin has already made a comic out of it]. The saying in question is that old tale about the Indian boy and his grandfather telling him the story about the two wolves. First of all, the original saying probably involves two Eskimos and is an allegory for keeping the faith in Christianity. Gavin admits he knew this but went with the Native American version anyway because, hey, what's a little casual racism between friends? However, that's all besides the point. The point is: What does this proverb even mean? The wolves are a metaphor for anger, feeding them is a metaphor for getting angry so... if you allow yourself to be angry you will be angry? Fucking brilliant! And yet people repeat this vacuous nonsense like a fucking mantra, never once stopping to think how devoid of meaning it is.<br />
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Still, a hollow shell of wisdom is the best you can hope for in these cases because it can just as easily be a moral that is toxic and misleading. [http://zenpencils.com/comic/52-phil-plait-welcome-to-science/ Take this comic for instance] where the person is quoted as saying "No creationist ever cracked the genetic code", which can be taken to mean "Ha ha! religion is so stupid! No one who believes in some silly 'God' has ever contributed anything to science!", which is grossly untrue. But you have to believe it! After all, it has some nice pictures and it was said by Phil Plait! Wait, who the hell is "Phil Plait"? Oh right, he's just some guy who runs a blog.<br />
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See how simple it is to get people to believe in anything if you attribute to the right source? (or just to some nobody and hope now one bothers to read the comments) Zen Pencils hardly promotes the kind of free thinking it harps on about. And, since we've now arrived at both the issue of bad advice and the issue of this comic's main topic, let's move on to the heart of this comic: The central message.<br />
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====ZP's Underlying Moral====<br />
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There is one prevailing, central point this comic often comes back to, but first, some background:<br />
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Gavin Aung Than wanted to be an artist, studied graphic design to play it safe, worked 8 years at it before quitting his job and selling his house to pursue his dream. And, amazingly, through a combination of appealing to the lowest common denominator and shameless pandering, he became a "[[The Oatmeal]]" style success story and now dedicates himself to telling others to do the same.<br />
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So the repeating theme of this comic tends to be people being unsatisfied with their office job, quitting to peruse their calling (which is almost always art) and various plagiarized quotes appropriated to advise people to do just that. It just goes on and on like that. "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/4-robert-frost-the-faithful-worker/ Quit your job]!" "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/confucius-find-a-job-you-love/ Become an artist]!", "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/benjamin-franklin-dont-get-trapped/ Quit your job]!" "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/50-neil-gaiman-make-good-art/ Become an artist]!", "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/mark-twain-no-regrets/ Quit your job]!" "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/90-ira-glass-advice-for-beginners/ Become an artist]!", "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/20-robert-frost-the-brain-is-a-wonderful-organ/ Quit your job]!" "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/113-vincent-van-gogh-in-spite-of-everything/ Become an artist]!", "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/30-dean-karnazes-theres-no-struggle-in-our-lives/ Quit your job]!" "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/150-jim-henson-a-puppeteers-advice/ Become an artist]!", "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/32-rainer-maria-rilke-letter-to-a-young-poet/ Quit your job]!" "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/kevinsmith/ Become an artist]!", "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/70-christopher-mccandless-into-the-wild/ Quit your job]! [http://zenpencils.com/comic/83-howard-thurman-ask-yourself/ Quit your job]! [http://zenpencils.com/comic/98-alan-watts-what-if-money-was-no-object/ Quit your job]!". Forget about your responsibilities! You don't have kids to feed or a mortgage to pay! You'll do fine with the money you saved up from your high paying office job! What's that? You don't have any money saved up because you work at McDonald's and just trying to get by? Doesn't matter! Follow your dreams at all costs! Just like [http://zenpencils.com/comic/122-charles-bukowski-roll-the-dice/ this guy in my comic whose obsession with "Game of Thrones" is destroying his marriage]! There is no way this could go wrong! After all, look at me! I did it! That's why [http://zenpencils.com/comic/150-jim-henson-a-puppeteers-advice/ half the people in these comics are myself]! And as you browse Facebook on your cellphone and read my comic that someone linked to you there, don't forget [http://zenpencils.com/comic/77-albert-einstein-a-human-being-is-part-of-a-whole/ that cellphones and] [http://zenpencils.com/comic/129-marc-maron-the-social-media-generation/ Facebook are stupid] (except when I use them to make my living which is fine). Gavin finds a way to make every other quote he draws support this position, [http://zenpencils.com/comic/32-rainer-maria-rilke-letter-to-a-young-poet even when using one the intention of which was to say that you DON'T need to do anything drastic like quit your job to enjoy life] he somehow finds a way to misinterpret it to mean the exact opposite.<br />
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There is so much wrong with this way of thinking and so much danger in someone actually following Than's advice wholeheartedly. First and foremost, if you have an office job you should be grateful. You could just as easily be cleaning out shit or being yelled at be a fat woman with her husband's ballsack on her breath about her burger not having enough pickles as her spittle bounces off your face. You should be grateful for ''anything'' you have because 100 years ago concepts like "Disposable income" and "Social mobility" didn't exist. Plus, not everyone wants to be an artist! Not everyone is good at art and won't become good just by trying really hard. Some people's idea of happiness is an office job where they make a lot of money and can lord over people. The path to doing what you really want often goes through 20 years pushing papers until you get promoted high enough so you can buy that fucking boat. Not everyone can live off the low salary of an artist and job satisfaction is not always enough. Having a job you really want is often worthless if you come home to a slum and a microwave dinner. Finally, your job isn't supposed to be fun. If work was fun people would have no reason to pay you to do it. What you ''should'' strive for is having a job you don't hate that leaves you with enough time and money to spend your hours away from it enjoying yourself with friends and family because that the best most of us can hope for. If everyone just up and quit to follow their pipe dreams the economy would collapse and there sure as hell would be no room left in the art world for a hack like Gavin.<br />
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The real slap to the face isn't that Gavin lucked out and honestly thinks everything will be fine if everyone just followed his example, it's that this comic isn't very "Zen" at all. To go back to my previous issue with the comic's inconsistency between the source material and the final result, I would like to add that, not only is ZP often proven wrong by the people, event and at times even the actual quotes it uses, but also, in the few rare occasions that ZP ''does'' quote something remotely zen-like, it's always in stark contrast to its usual "Work hard and achieve your dreams!" motto. Like when Gav [http://zenpencils.com/comic/69-buddha-less-is-more/ quotes Gautama Buddha] about being happy by letting go of ego-driven ambitions and [http://zenpencils.com/comic/80-henry-david-thoreau-on-happiness/H.D Thoreau] about letting happiness come to you while the rest of ZP contradicts itself and tells you that you will never be happy unless you follow your ambitions at any cost like a giant egotist.<br />
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====The Troll Arc====<br />
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This is when things really went downhill.<br />
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''Zen Pencils'' was no stranger to making [http://zenpencils.com/comic/120-terence-mckenna-nature-loves-courage/ insipid comics about those darn, dirt trolls], the [http://zenpencils.com/comic/50-neil-gaiman-make-good-art/ first of which] used a quote by Neil Gaiman that contained the words <br />
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'''''"[if] someone on the internet thinks what you're doing is stupid or evil or it's all been done before... make good art"'''''<br />
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[[File:Crying zp.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Gav's feelings on criticism]]<br />
that are placed over a drawing of someone literally crying in front of his computer screen and then using that as inspiration to write a book about trolls. This is a great example of why you shouldn't take anything said by a famous person you admire as words directly from the mouth of god. People make mistakes, even people you look up to. So, while it's okay to like Gaiman and enjoy his books and draw on things he says for inspiration, it doesn't mean you also have to support his feverish defense of cartoon child pornography. So, if someone on the internet thinks what you're doing is stupid then, even if they are trolls, they might be right. And if someone on the internet thinks what you are doing is evil, then maybe you should stop. Oh, and if someone on the internet tells you that what you are doing has all been done before then you are probably Gavin Aung Than who doesn't seem to have had an original thought in his life.<br />
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To get to the point, in one of his more recent comic he decided to stop stealing quotes for [http://zenpencils.com/comic/144-the-artist-troll-war-1-hatred-breeds-hatred/ long enough] [http://zenpencils.com/comic/145-the-artist-troll-war-part-2-negativity-destroys-all/ to write] [http://zenpencils.com/comic/146-the-artist-troll-war-3-creators-haters/ an original] [http://zenpencils.com/comic/147-the-artist-troll-war-4-good-art-triumphant/ story] and boy did he pick a great topic. In the four pages of the comic people who have engaged in online trolling suddenly have their heads explode into green mush that all gathers together in one place and turns into a giant slime monster with "#HATE" embedded in its chest (just in case you thought the comic was being too subtle) that proceeds to eat artists alive while <s>criticizing</s> trolling them.<br />
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To combat this creature one <s>Hayao</s> H. Miyazaki gathers together a crack team of artists that together build a giant robot designed to fight the monster, making this the first time in history that an artist has created something that is of any actual use to anybody. The robot contains recordings of '''not''' Kanye West and '''not''' Lady Gaga that is uses to confront the slime monster and blast it with loud hip-hop music. The creature has the reaction you would expect to having to listen to rap and begins to vomit uncontrollably (why are you so racist Gavin?), then the robot flies this kaiju to the moon where it vandalizes it by writing "ART" on it with the liquefied corpses of its enemies.<br />
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So what were these nasty trolls saying that was so bad they deserved to die? Let's see...<br />
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<center>'''''"He's a terrible comedian I didn't laugh once #diedonstage #hack"'''''</center><br />
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Well, that's sort of rude I guess... Let's see what else.<br />
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<center>'''''"I loved her old stuff but now I'd rather die a thousand deaths than listen to her new music #sellout"'''''</center><br />
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I suppose there isn't really a need for hyperbole in the criticism but otherwise it doesn't seem so bad... Let's see what this little old lady character has to say. <br />
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<center>'''''"Her performance was thin and unconvincing, turgid and uninspired. #Theaterisdead"'''''</center><br />
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This just seems like valid criticism! Why is her head exploding?!<br />
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So there you have it, this is what Gavin considers "trolling." Light criticism often peppered with praise. [http://brenebrown.com/2014/04/08/daring-interview-series-meet-gavin-aung/ In one interview], predating this comics, he talked about addressing the issue of "troll culture" in a future comic because, while he's fine with criticism, some of the comments he has gotten were "just pure, hateful stuff." If what's in this comic is any indication of what he considers to be "hateful," then I imagine that the criticism he claims to be fine with must come with a complimentary hand-job from its author to soothe his temper as he reads it.<br />
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That, however, is not the only baffling thing about this comic. First of all, why choose Miyazaki of all people? Is it because, like most of the people Gavin chose to quote at the start of the comic, he was the lowest hanging fruit? That would be my guess, which is only made more funny considering Gavin wrote in the comments of this comic: <br />
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Yes Gavin, only you know who the most famous anime producer in history is. You're such an erudite. However, one thing that Gavin apparently ''doesn't'' know about Hayao Miyazaki is that [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/131872-Hayao-Miyazaki-Anime-Suffers-Because-the-Industry-is-Full-of-Otaku he said the reason he's quitting the anime industry is because he's sick of all the fucking otakus]. Which to me sounds like the kind of criticism that would put him on the troll side of the spectrum using Gavin's criteria. I also find it funny that the robot has Gavin's favorite quote of all times that was said by Theodore Roosevelt and contains the words "it is not the critic who counts" written on it. I find it hard to believe that Miyazaki would like to have Roosevelt quoted on his imaginary giant robot, seeing as how Roosevelt was a white supremacist. But I'm sure we can find other inspirational people who share Than's opinions on criticism! Oh! I found one!<br />
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<center>'''''"Only the person who is able to solve problems better is allowed to criticize."'''''</center><br />
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You know who said that? Adolf Hitler. So you're in really good company there Gav.<br /><br />
You like quotes Gav? [http://zenpencils.com/comic/126-shakespeare-a-love-story-in-four-parts/ You like quoting Shakespeare?] You wanna know what the bard's opinion on criticism is?<br />
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<center>'''''"Now this overdone or come tardy off, though it make the unskillful laugh, cannot but make the judicious grieve, the censure of the which one must in your allowance o'erweigh a whole theatre of others."'''''</center><br />
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So this magnum opus of Gavin's, which he stated that he put extra effort into producing (unlike his regular comics that he actually sells. His paying customers can go fuck themselves I guess) went over about as well as you might think. He [http://24.media.tumblr.com/bd4ee3868e3f75d35c354d11369b2327/tumblr_n2rgrywhS31rphc69o1_500.png got called out by known comic artist "James Stokoe"] and Kris Straub, although his work lost some of its luster since then, [http://chainsawsuit.com/comic/2014/03/21/a-response-to-zen-pencils/ made a parody of this comic as well]. Soon Tumblr was flooded with parodies that I collected so I could add them to this review (my apology for not crediting people's work. I saved these a long time ago and don't remember their source).<br />
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In conclusion, Gavin doesn't just ''draw'' caricatures, he ''is'' a caricature. He's this strawman people like myself are sometimes guilty of constructing but one I never believed could represent the real opinions of an actual person. But there is one real person who thinks this way and that person is Gavin Than. Gavin seems to honestly think that his work is beyond reproach and that anyone who criticizes it couldn't possibly be anything but a troll driven by jealousy for whom the 3rd grade level argument of "Oh yeah? I'd like to see you do better!" is a valid response. He says as much in his final notes to the comic that read:<br />
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'''''"It’s time to choose a side. Are you on the side who takes the easy option? The troll. The armchair critic slinging snarky quips behind the safety of a keyboard. Firing sarcastic bullets at those in the trenches. Or are you a creator? Someone who makes something. Someone who lets themselves be vulnerable in front of an audience, who contributes something new and hopeful to an increasingly dark and depressing world. Choose. Which side are you on?"'''''<br />
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Not only does he make no distinction between a critic and a troll (because he doesn't seem to believe that there is one), he also asserts that everyone in the world is either one of those two things or an artist and no other options exist. It's embarrassing to read, but no more embarrassing than him describing what he does as "the trenches." Really, Gav? You sitting at home, producing one comic every two weeks and drawing people who disagree with you being murdered by a giant robot because you were too lazy to hold down a real job is "the trenches?" Get over yourself, you pompous ass.<br />
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==Author biography== <br />
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This comic is created by Gavin Aung Than, an Asian man in his 30's living in Australia.<br />
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In his various interviews he talks about his inspiration for creating this comic being him hating his desk job as a graphic designer which led him to quit and sell his house. So if there is anything positive I can say about him is that at least he isn't a hypocrite and follows the same bad advice he constantly gives his fans.<br />
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His previous comics include some painfully unfunny tripe [http://gavinaungthan.com/ that you can find samples of on his site] and exemplify why he should stick to plagiarism and never try to write something original again. He also had a third comic which was published in a newspaper that he admits wasn't very good and was only published there because he worked at that paper's art department. Hooray for nepotism.<br />
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Besides the aforementioned callouts from Straub and Stokoe, his internet adventures also include a [http://shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1919 parody] from [[Shortpacked|Shortpackd!]], mocking [http://zenpencils.com/comic/128-bill-watterson-a-cartoonists-advice/ his use of a quote by Bill Watterson] and, as much as I don't like Dave Willis, I have to admit that this time he's right on the money.<br />
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Recently Gav also got into it with a creator of a parody comic called [http://drilpencils.tumblr.com/ "Dril Pencils"] when he demanded the creator stop using his art. To be clear, this comic wasn't even making fun of Gav or ZP. The blog owner just took random tweets from [https://twitter.com/dril @dril] and inserted them into ZP comic strips. But Gav was too thin skinned to allow even ''perceived'' criticism of his work to continue and too blind to see the irony in him complaining about misuse of his intellectual property when his own comic is nothing but that and when he himself was contacted by Charles Bukowski's editor requesting that he remove [http://zenpencils.com/comic/97-charles-bukowski-air-and-light-and-time-and-space/ a comic using his quote] it didn't stop him from later [http://zenpencils.com/comic/122-charles-bukowski-roll-the-dice/ making more comics using Bukowski's content] despite being asked not to (I really want to email his editor about this just to fuck with him).<br />
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==Conclusion==<br />
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I don't think that if Mr. Than ever finds this page he will get anything out of it. He couldn't be more blocked off from critique if he encased his head in solid lead to avoid seeing or hearing it. I think that if he ever tried to read this article he would recoil from it like it was Kryptonite after finishing a single line.<br />
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For those who want to read ''Zen Pencils'': There is nothing for you here. There is nothing of value in this webcomic. It is the product of pandering and Wikiquote created for people whose personal development ended at the age of 14. The bastard child of high-school lit and post-collage pretension designed to save one man from the horrors of waking up every day at a reasonable hour. There is nothing in this webcomic you couldn't find in a fortune cookie. Anything in it that is worth reading is worth reading out of the misleading context of its drawings. [http://zenpencils.com/comic/laotzu/ It contains quotes from Lao Tzu more than once] so here is a quote from "The Book of Tao" that I think best describes this webcomic:<br />
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<center>'''''"True things are not pretty<br /><br />
'''''Pretty things are not true"'''''</center><br />
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That is what ''Zen Pencils'' is. It deals in pretty things, hollow platitudes intended to create the illusion of depth by a man who did not think up the things he says but repeats them nonetheless as though he understands what they mean. If ZP was a physical thing instead of a webcomic on the internet I would burn it, gather the ashes in a small pile and then burn it again.<br />
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[[File:1999-02-08-Ozy-and-Millie.gif|700px|thumb|center|700px|I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Gavin Aung Than had seen this ''Ozy And Millie'' strip and failed to realize that Millie's punchline was meant to be ironic.]]<br />
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==Links==<br />
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* [http://zenpencils.com/ The webcomic] - The webcomic also has a number of social media accounts but I don't see a point in linking to them<br />
* [http://chainsawsuit.com/comic/2014/03/21/a-response-to-zen-pencils/ The Chainsawsuit parody]<br />
* [http://shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1919 The Shortpacked! parody]<br />
* [http://zenpencilspencils.tumblr.com "ZenPencilsPencils"] - A parody Tumblr<br />
* [http://drilpencils.tumblr.com/ "Dril Pencils"] - The other parody Tumblr<br />
* [http://astralaves.tumblr.com/post/104943517264 Opinion on why ZP is shit]<br />
* [http://votesatan.tumblr.com/post/76011587801/short-post-about-why-i-hate-zen-pencils Another]<br />
* [http://www.hoodedutilitarian.com/2014/04/art-vs-art-zen-pencils-and-the-critical-imagination/ and another]... so many evil trolls!!!<br />
* [http://badwebcomicswikiforum.yuku.com/topic/125/Should-I-do-Zen-Pencils#.VJ6Rs__fwA The Zen Pencils threads] [http://badwebcomicswikiforum.yuku.com/topic/119/Zen-Pencils-gets-called-out#.VJ6R7v_fwA on our forum]<br />
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[[Category: Webcomics]]</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Zen_Pencils&diff=32737Zen Pencils2018-08-08T23:57:12Z<p>DentsAndDings: /* ZP's Underline Moral */</p>
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<div>{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Original review author:'''<br />
| {{oddguy}}<br />
|-<br />
|'''Webcomic name:'''<br />
| [http://zenpencils.com/ Zen Pencils]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Author:'''<br />
| [http://gavinaungthan.com/ Gavin Aung Than]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Start Date:'''<br />
| January 30, 2012<br />
|-<br />
|'''End Date:'''<br />
| Continually slogging along<br />
|-<br />
|'''Genre:'''<br />
| One part Hallmark greeting card, one part faux-inspirational "Hang in there" kitty poster, 100% pretension<br />
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|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
| I'm afraid to say this webcomic has any flaws because Gav might kill me and scribble "ART" on the walls of his house with my blood<br />
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'''Rating Summary'''<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable" style="width:600px"><br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Art:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
The art isn't bad or great but it also isn't the problem.<br />
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|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
There aren't many "Storylines", but when there are it just makes you wish Gavin would go back to his insipid "Inspirational" comics.<br />
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|'''Characters:'''<br />
|Not applicable.<br />
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|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
Does Gavin not make enough money from this webcomic to host it on a site that doesn't crash while loading?<br />
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|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
Gets an extra point for not being drawn with stick figures. But it's really not worth reading.<br />
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==Background and Downfall==<br />
[[File:Stokoe.png|thumb|left|200px|What James Stokoe thinks of this comic]]<br />
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The background and the downfall of this comic are pretty intertwined and not very complicated so I might as well just explain them both together.<br />
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The long and short of it is simply that this comic was always bad, I never liked it and, much like in [[So... You're a Cartoonist?]] (which I also reviewed), an ill-advised change of pace for the comic made it go from bad to worse and therefore worth reviewing.<br />
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In the case of Tom Preston, the change was an attempt to write plotted stories instead of gag strips, and similarly, ZP earned the ire of internet users everywhere when its creator attempted to stop making his lazy motivational posters for a spell and try his hand at an original story. Not to get ahead of ourselves I'll just say that the topic of the new comic was his declaration of war against internet trolls in the most insane way possible.<br />
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==Art review==<br />
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The art is okay in my opinion. Nothing too fancy, the caricatures of historical figures are good enough for me to know who they are, the style switches up a bit from time to time and the quality has improved a bit since the comic started so I can't accuse it of stagnating.<br />
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It isn't amazing and at times is a little flat, but Than has a degree in graphic design so I can't say he doesn't know what he's doing.<br />
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The only negative thing I can really say about the art is that he doesn't know how to depict people from other cultures in anything but cartoonish racial stereotypes. I would accuse him of racism, but even when he draws his own race he ends up being just as bad, [http://zenpencils.com/comic/65-marianne-williamson-our-deepest-fear/ opting to draw a family of asians as literally yellow] and [http://zenpencils.com/comic/36-bruce-lee-there-are-no-limits/ Bruce Lee] as fighting caricatures of chinese martial arts masters with long beards and ponytails. All I can say is that when a variety of races appear in a single comic is feels like I'm going through the "It's A Small World" ride at Disneyland.<br />
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==Writing review== <br />
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There is a lot wrong with this comic so I think it's better if I separate this into sections.<br />
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====Misleading Content====<br />
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[[File:Zen pencils.jpg|thumb|right|300px|A man realizes the folly of racism after traveling the world and discovering that every single racial stereotype is true]]<br />
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There is no real writing in this comic. ZP is just random "inspirational" quotes presented with matching illustrations. This in and of itself is not a bad idea (but less for a webcomic and perhaps more for some sort of greeting card business, which ZP is close to being), but the exaction by Gav is horrendous.<br />
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First of all, Than has no idea what he's talking about. A lot of these quotes are out of context or with misleading cartoons added to them showing that Gavin didn't really understand them. Take for example his quotes form the [http://zenpencils.com/comic/the-dalai-lama-answers-a-question/ Dali] [http://zenpencils.com/comic/143-the-dalai-lama-we-are-all-human-beings/ Lama], one of which he never actually said. Or, better yet, take this [http://zenpencils.com/comic/william-ernest-henley-invictus/ this early comic] where Gav interprets William Henley's "Invictus" to mean "If you are getting bullied beat the bullies to death with a hammer." This comic was later continued with another three strips, but it doesn't make things better, because at no point does the kid in the comic suffer any real consequences ([http://zenpencils.com/comic/45-walt-whitman-o-me-o-life/ besides some light teasing]) and it all ends with the other kids at school forgiving him and him [http://zenpencils.com/comic/114-playing-the-game/ playing baseball with them]. Yay! A happy ending! Three cheers for premeditated attempts at homicide!<br />
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This same quote was later used again in [http://zenpencils.com/comic/140-invictus-a-comic-tribute-to-nelson-mandela/ a tribute to Nelson Mandela], forgetting that Mandela's organization murdered over 130 people. And that brings me to another problem: Hero worship is stupid because people are awful. A lot of these so-called "inspirational folks" that Gavin loves quoting so much were horrible fucking people. [http://zenpencils.com/comic/15-gandhi-the-right-state-of-mind/ Gandhi] was a racist and believed that [http://www.patheos.com/blogs/drishtikone/2013/01/gandhi-also-blamed-women-for-getting-raped-do-misogyny-and-obsession-with-sexual-purity-go-hand-in-hand/ women who get raped secretly want to get raped], [http://zenpencils.com/comic/58-living-well-is-the-best-revenge Mark Zuckerberg] wasn't some poor bulling victim but rather a giant asshole all his life and so was [http://zenpencils.com/comic/16-steve-jobs-your-time-is-limited/ Steve Jobs]. The same goes for [http://zenpencils.com/comic/47-muhammad-ali-i-know-the-truth/ Muhammad Ali] whom he quoted about five times.<br />
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But it's not just about him quoting people he had no way of knowing aren't worth idolizing (except, you know... doing a simple Google search), it feels like he doesn't know who '''any''' of the people he quotes are or what they stand for. Going so far as to [http://zenpencils.com/comic/41-ayn-rand-the-question/ quote Ayn Rand], the inventor of "Objectivism", in one of her many musings on the value of pure selfishness as some inspiring message about not giving up. And this extends not only to mere ignorance of the person's background, but all the way to blatant misrepresentation. Gavin has the gall to quote comedians [http://zenpencils.com/comic/24-george-carlin-on-assassination-explicit/ like] [http://zenpencils.com/comic/26-george-carlin-on-technology-explicit/ George] [http://zenpencils.com/comic/23-george-carlin-on-religious-hats-explicit/ Carlin] and [http://zenpencils.com/comic/95-louis-c-k-we-dont-think-about-how-we-talk/ Louis C.K] and paint their words with a rosy brush when all their works have always been brimming with contempt for their fellow man (I'm confident that's true for other comedians he quotes but I am not familiar with their work and, unlike Gavin, have no intention of pretending to be). [http://zenpencils.com/comic/25-george-carlin-on-bullshit-explicit/ He even quotes Carlin's bit on recognizing bullshit], oblivious to the fact his comics all contain exactly the kind of bullshit Carlin wanted to warn people about. And just to add insult to injury, he quotes [http://zenpencils.com/comic/14-hunter-s-thompson-buy-the-ticket/ Hunter S. Thompson] ([http://zenpencils.com/comic/43-hunter-s-thompson-the-happier-man/ twice]), illustrating his famous "Take the ride" quote as a happy little girl taking a fun little ride on a roller coaster.<br />
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I think it's important to point out that his Carlin quotes were all fired in rapid succession, and the same is true for his quotes from Ali. This leads me to suspect he would just pick out whatever famous figure he knew and would look up their page on wikiquotes. What reaffirms my suspicion is that, as time went on and the comic got more popular, he started drawing from source material that was more obscure. This can be explained by there being more submissions from his fans who were only slightly less pretentious than him, at which point he would do the same thing in reverse and, instead of looking up quotes to match the figure, he would read up a little bit about the person he just quoted so that he can pretend to know what he's talking about in the comment section at the bottom.<br />
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However, this problem has even more layers. It isn't only that Gav misunderstands quotes and misrepresents intentions, nor is it only that he fails to research the people he misquotes; he also fails to research the events surrounding them. Take for example [http://zenpencils.com/comic/68-jesse-owens-the-inevitable-battle/ this comic] where he perpetuates the myth that in the 1936 Olympics, Hitler refused to shake Jesse Owens' hand because he was mad that a black man won. In reality, Hitler didn't shake the hand of ''any'' of the contestants and, unlike president FDR who didn't even call to congratulate him, waved at Jesse and sent him a gift. So history rarely conforms to people's spiteful fantasies. <br />
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You see what I'm saying? A lot of the cults of personality around these people are undeserved, a lot of what we think we know about them isn't true, a lot of the events didn't unfold the way we were told and people regarding everything they hear as deep and profound based solely on the source without ever looking into any of it are idiots. After all, even Mother Teresa was reportedly a giant bitch.<br />
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The real issue is this: It is really easy to make people accept things as true without thinking about them if you only cite someone noteworthy as their source or say them with a sufficient air of gravity. There is one saying I think illustrates this better than anything with its vapidness and faux depth and, surprise surprise, [http://zenpencils.com/comic/94-the-two-wolves/ Gavin has already made a comic out of it]. The saying in question is that old tale about the Indian boy and his grandfather telling him the story about the two wolves. First of all, the original saying probably involves two Eskimos and is an allegory for keeping the faith in Christianity. Gavin admits he knew this but went with the Native American version anyway because, hey, what's a little casual racism between friends? However, that's all besides the point. The point is: What does this proverb even mean? The wolves are a metaphor for anger, feeding them is a metaphor for getting angry so... if you allow yourself to be angry you will be angry? Fucking brilliant! And yet people repeat this vacuous nonsense like a fucking mantra, never once stopping to think how devoid of meaning it is.<br />
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Still, a hollow shell of wisdom is the best you can hope for in these cases because it can just as easily be a moral that is toxic and misleading. [http://zenpencils.com/comic/52-phil-plait-welcome-to-science/ Take this comic for instance] where the person is quoted as saying "No creationist ever cracked the genetic code", which can be taken to mean "Ha ha! religion is so stupid! No one who believes in some silly 'God' has ever contributed anything to science!", which is grossly untrue. But you have to believe it! After all, it has some nice pictures and it was said by Phil Plait! Wait, who the hell is "Phil Plait"? Oh right, he's just some guy who runs a blog.<br />
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See how simple it is to get people to believe in anything if you attribute to the right source? (or just to some nobody and hope now one bothers to read the comments) Zen Pencils hardly promotes the kind of free thinking it harps on about. And, since we've now arrived at both the issue of bad advice and the issue of this comic's main topic, let's move on to the heart of this comic: The central message.<br />
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====ZP's Underlying Moral====<br />
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There is one prevailing, central point this comic often comes back to, but first, some background:<br />
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Gavin Aung Than wanted to be an artist, studied graphic design to play it safe, worked 8 years at it before quitting his job and selling his house to pursue his dream. And, amazingly, through a combination of appealing to the lowest common denominator and shameless pandering, he became a "[[The Oatmeal]]" style success story and now dedicates himself to telling others to do the same.<br />
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So the repeating theme of this comic tends to be people being unsatisfied with their office job, quitting to peruse their calling (which is almost always art) and various plagiarized quotes appropriated to advise people to do just that. It just goes on and on like that. "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/4-robert-frost-the-faithful-worker/ Quit your job]!" "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/confucius-find-a-job-you-love/ Become an artist]!", "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/benjamin-franklin-dont-get-trapped/ Quit your job]!" "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/50-neil-gaiman-make-good-art/ Become an artist]!", "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/mark-twain-no-regrets/ Quit your job]!" "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/90-ira-glass-advice-for-beginners/ Become an artist]!", "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/20-robert-frost-the-brain-is-a-wonderful-organ/ Quit your job]!" "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/113-vincent-van-gogh-in-spite-of-everything/ Become an artist]!", "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/30-dean-karnazes-theres-no-struggle-in-our-lives/ Quit your job]!" "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/150-jim-henson-a-puppeteers-advice/ Become an artist]!", "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/32-rainer-maria-rilke-letter-to-a-young-poet/ Quit your job]!" "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/kevinsmith/ Become an artist]!", "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/70-christopher-mccandless-into-the-wild/ Quit your job]! [http://zenpencils.com/comic/83-howard-thurman-ask-yourself/ Quit your job]! [http://zenpencils.com/comic/98-alan-watts-what-if-money-was-no-object/ Quit your job]!". Forget about your responsibilities! You don't have kids to feed or a mortgage to pay! You'll do fine with the money you saved up from your high paying office job! What's that? You don't have any money saved up because you work at McDonald's and just trying to get by? Doesn't matter! Follow your dreams at all costs! Just like [http://zenpencils.com/comic/122-charles-bukowski-roll-the-dice/ this guy in my comic whose obsession with "Game of Thrones" is destroying his marriage]! There is no way this could go wrong! After all, look at me! I did it! That's why [http://zenpencils.com/comic/150-jim-henson-a-puppeteers-advice/ half the people in these comics are myself]! And as you browse Facebook on your cellphone and read my comic that someone linked to you there, don't forget [http://zenpencils.com/comic/77-albert-einstein-a-human-being-is-part-of-a-whole/ that cellphones and] [http://zenpencils.com/comic/129-marc-maron-the-social-media-generation/ Facebook are stupid] (except when I use them to make my living which is fine). Gavin finds a way to make every other quote he draws support this position, [http://zenpencils.com/comic/32-rainer-maria-rilke-letter-to-a-young-poet even when using one the intention of which was to say that you DON'T need to do anything drastic like quit your job to enjoy life] he somehow finds a way to misinterpret it to mean the exact opposite.<br />
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There is so much wrong with this way of thinking and so much danger in someone actually following Than's advice wholeheartedly. First and foremost, if you have an office job you should be grateful. You could just as easily be cleaning out shit or being yelled at be a fat woman with her husband's ballsack on her breath about her burger not having enough pickles as her spittle bounces off your face. You should be grateful for ''anything'' you have because 100 years ago concepts like "Disposable income" and "Social mobility" didn't exist. Plus, not everyone wants to be an artist! Not everyone is good at art and won't become good just by trying really hard. Some people's idea of happiness is an office job where they make a lot of money and can lord over people. The path to doing what you really want often goes through 20 years pushing papers until you get promoted high enough so you can buy that fucking boat. Not everyone can live off the low salary of an artist and job satisfaction is not always enough. Having a job you really want is often worthless if you come home to a slum and a microwave dinner. Finally, your job isn't supposed to be fun. If work was fun people would have no reason to pay you to do it. What you ''should'' strive for is having a job you don't hate that leaves you with enough time and money to spend your hours away from it enjoying yourself with friends and family because that the best most of us can hope for. If everyone just up and quit to follow their pipe dreams the economy would collapse and there sure as hell would be no room left in the art world for a hack like Gavin.<br />
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The real slap to the face isn't that Gavin lucked out and honestly thinks everything will be fine if everyone just followed his example, it's that this comic isn't very "Zen" at all. To go back to my previous issue with the comic's inconsistency between the source material and the final result, I would like to add that, not only is ZP often proven wrong by the people, event and at times even the actual quotes it uses, but also, in the few rare occasions that ZP ''does'' quote something remotely zen-like, it's always in stark contrast to its usual "Work hard and achieve your dreams!" motto. Like when Gav [http://zenpencils.com/comic/69-buddha-less-is-more/ quotes Gautama Buddha] about being happy by letting go of ego-driven ambitions and [http://zenpencils.com/comic/80-henry-david-thoreau-on-happiness/H.D Thoreau] about letting happiness come to you while the rest of ZP contradicts itself and tells you that you will never be happy unless you follow your ambitions at any cost like a giant egotist.<br />
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====The Troll Arc====<br />
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[[File:zp11.png|center]]<br />
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This is when things really went downhill.<br />
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''Zen Pencils'' was no stranger to making [http://zenpencils.com/comic/120-terence-mckenna-nature-loves-courage/ insipid comics about those darn, dirt trolls], the [http://zenpencils.com/comic/50-neil-gaiman-make-good-art/ first of which] used a quote by Neil Gaiman that contained the words <br />
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'''''"[if] someone on the internet thinks what you're doing is stupid or evil or it's all been done before... make good art"'''''<br />
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[[File:Crying zp.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Gav's feelings on criticism]]<br />
that are placed over a drawing of someone literally crying in front of his computer screen and then using that as inspiration to write a book about trolls. This is a great example of why you shouldn't take anything said by a famous person you admire as words directly from the mouth of god. People make mistakes, even people you look up to. So, while it's okay to like Gaiman and enjoy his books and draw on things he says for inspiration, it doesn't mean you also have to support his feverish defense of cartoon child pornography. So, if someone on the internet thinks what you're doing is stupid then, even if they are trolls, they might be right. And if someone on the internet thinks what you are doing is evil, then maybe you should stop. Oh, and if someone on the internet tells you that what you are doing has all been done before then you are probably Gavin Aung Than who doesn't seem to have had an original thought in his life.<br />
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To get to the point, in one of his more recent comic he decided to stop stealing quotes for [http://zenpencils.com/comic/144-the-artist-troll-war-1-hatred-breeds-hatred/ long enough] [http://zenpencils.com/comic/145-the-artist-troll-war-part-2-negativity-destroys-all/ to write] [http://zenpencils.com/comic/146-the-artist-troll-war-3-creators-haters/ an original] [http://zenpencils.com/comic/147-the-artist-troll-war-4-good-art-triumphant/ story] and boy did he pick a great topic. In the four pages of the comic people who have engaged in online trolling suddenly have their heads explode into green mush that all gathers together in one place and turns into a giant slime monster with "#HATE" embedded in its chest (just in case you thought the comic was being too subtle) that proceeds to eat artists alive while <s>criticizing</s> trolling them.<br />
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To combat this creature one <s>Hayao</s> H. Miyazaki gathers together a crack team of artists that together build a giant robot designed to fight the monster, making this the first time in history that an artist has created something that is of any actual use to anybody. The robot contains recordings of '''not''' Kanye West and '''not''' Lady Gaga that is uses to confront the slime monster and blast it with loud hip-hop music. The creature has the reaction you would expect to having to listen to rap and begins to vomit uncontrollably (why are you so racist Gavin?), then the robot flies this kaiju to the moon where it vandalizes it by writing "ART" on it with the liquefied corpses of its enemies.<br />
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So what were these nasty trolls saying that was so bad they deserved to die? Let's see...<br />
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<center>'''''"He's a terrible comedian I didn't laugh once #diedonstage #hack"'''''</center><br />
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Well, that's sort of rude I guess... Let's see what else.<br />
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<center>'''''"I loved her old stuff but now I'd rather die a thousand deaths than listen to her new music #sellout"'''''</center><br />
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I suppose there isn't really a need for hyperbole in the criticism but otherwise it doesn't seem so bad... Let's see what this little old lady character has to say. <br />
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<center>'''''"Her performance was thin and unconvincing, turgid and uninspired. #Theaterisdead"'''''</center><br />
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This just seems like valid criticism! Why is her head exploding?!<br />
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So there you have it, this is what Gavin considers "trolling." Light criticism often peppered with praise. [http://brenebrown.com/2014/04/08/daring-interview-series-meet-gavin-aung/ In one interview], predating this comics, he talked about addressing the issue of "troll culture" in a future comic because, while he's fine with criticism, some of the comments he has gotten were "just pure, hateful stuff." If what's in this comic is any indication of what he considers to be "hateful," then I imagine that the criticism he claims to be fine with must come with a complimentary hand-job from its author to soothe his temper as he reads it.<br />
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That, however, is not the only baffling thing about this comic. First of all, why choose Miyazaki of all people? Is it because, like most of the people Gavin chose to quote at the start of the comic, he was the lowest hanging fruit? That would be my guess, which is only made more funny considering Gavin wrote in the comments of this comic: <br />
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Yes Gavin, only you know who the most famous anime producer in history is. You're such an erudite. However, one thing that Gavin apparently ''doesn't'' know about Hayao Miyazaki is that [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/131872-Hayao-Miyazaki-Anime-Suffers-Because-the-Industry-is-Full-of-Otaku he said the reason he's quitting the anime industry is because he's sick of all the fucking otakus]. Which to me sounds like the kind of criticism that would put him on the troll side of the spectrum using Gavin's criteria. I also find it funny that the robot has Gavin's favorite quote of all times that was said by Theodore Roosevelt and contains the words "it is not the critic who counts" written on it. I find it hard to believe that Miyazaki would like to have Roosevelt quoted on his imaginary giant robot, seeing as how Roosevelt was a white supremacist. But I'm sure we can find other inspirational people who share Than's opinions on criticism! Oh! I found one!<br />
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<center>'''''"Only the person who is able to solve problems better is allowed to criticize."'''''</center><br />
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You know who said that? Adolf Hitler. So you're in really good company there Gav.<br /><br />
You like quotes Gav? [http://zenpencils.com/comic/126-shakespeare-a-love-story-in-four-parts/ You like quoting Shakespeare?] You wanna know what the bard's opinion on criticism is?<br />
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<center>'''''"Now this overdone or come tardy off, though it make the unskillful laugh, cannot but make the judicious grieve, the censure of the which one must in your allowance o'erweigh a whole theatre of others."'''''</center><br />
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So this magnum opus of Gavin's, which he stated that he put extra effort into producing (unlike his regular comics that he actually sells. His paying customers can go fuck themselves I guess) went over about as well as you might think. He [http://24.media.tumblr.com/bd4ee3868e3f75d35c354d11369b2327/tumblr_n2rgrywhS31rphc69o1_500.png got called out by known comic artist "James Stokoe"] and Kris Straub, although his work lost some of its luster since then, [http://chainsawsuit.com/comic/2014/03/21/a-response-to-zen-pencils/ made a parody of this comic as well]. Soon Tumblr was flooded with parodies that I collected so I could add them to this review (my apology for not crediting people's work. I saved these a long time ago and don't remember their source).<br />
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In conclusion, Gavin doesn't just ''draw'' caricatures, he ''is'' a caricature. He's this strawman people like myself are sometimes guilty of constructing but one I never believed could represent the real opinions of an actual person. But there is one real person who thinks this way and that person is Gavin Than. Gavin seems to honestly think that his work is beyond reproach and that anyone who criticizes it couldn't possibly be anything but a troll driven by jealousy for whom the 3rd grade level argument of "Oh yeah? I'd like to see you do better!" is a valid response. He says as much in his final notes to the comic that read:<br />
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'''''"It’s time to choose a side. Are you on the side who takes the easy option? The troll. The armchair critic slinging snarky quips behind the safety of a keyboard. Firing sarcastic bullets at those in the trenches. Or are you a creator? Someone who makes something. Someone who lets themselves be vulnerable in front of an audience, who contributes something new and hopeful to an increasingly dark and depressing world. Choose. Which side are you on?"'''''<br />
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Not only does he make no distinction between a critic and a troll (because he doesn't seem to believe that there is one), he also asserts that everyone in the world is either one of those two things or an artist and no other options exist. It's embarrassing to read, but no more embarrassing than him describing what he does as "the trenches." Really, Gav? You sitting at home, producing one comic every two weeks and drawing people who disagree with you being murdered by a giant robot because you were too lazy to hold down a real job is "the trenches?" Get over yourself, you pompous ass.<br />
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==Author biography== <br />
[[File:Gavinthan.jpg|right|250px]]<br />
This comic is created by Gavin Aung Than, an Asian man in his 30's living in Australia.<br />
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In his various interviews he talks about his inspiration for creating this comic being him hating his desk job as a graphic designer which lead him to quit and sell his house. So if there is anything positive I can say about him is that at least he isn't a hypocrite and follows the same bad advice he constantly gives his fans.<br />
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His previous comics include some painfully unfunny tripe [http://gavinaungthan.com/ that you can find samples of on his site] and exemplify why he should stick to plagiarism and never try to write something original again. He also had a third comic which was published in a newspaper that he admits wasn't very good and was only published there because he worked at that paper's art department. Hooray for nepotism.<br />
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Besides the aforementioned callouts from Straub and Stokoe, his internet adventures also include a [http://shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1919 parody] from [[Shortpacked|Shortpackd!]], mocking [http://zenpencils.com/comic/128-bill-watterson-a-cartoonists-advice/ his use of a quote by Bill Watterson] and, as much as I don't like Dave Willis, I have to admit that this time he's right on the money.<br />
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Recently Gav also got into it with a creator of a parody comic called [http://drilpencils.tumblr.com/ "Dril Pencils"] when he demanded the creator stop using his art. To be clear, this comic wasn't even making fun of Gav or ZP. The blog owner just took random tweets from [https://twitter.com/dril @dril] and inserted them into ZP comic strips. But Gav was too thin skinned to allow even ''perceived'' criticism of his work to continue and too blind to see the irony in him complaining about misuse of his intellectual property when his own comic is nothing but that and when he himself was contacted by Charles Bukowski's editor requesting that he remove [http://zenpencils.com/comic/97-charles-bukowski-air-and-light-and-time-and-space/ a comic using his quote] it didn't stop him from later [http://zenpencils.com/comic/122-charles-bukowski-roll-the-dice/ making more comics using Bukowski's content] despite being asked not to (I really want to email his editor about this just to fuck with him).<br />
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==Conclusion==<br />
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I don't think that if Mr. Than ever finds this page he will get anything out of it. He couldn't be more blocked off from critique if he encased his head in solid lead to avoid seeing or hearing it. I think that if he ever tried to read this article he would recoil from it like it was Kryptonite after finishing a single line.<br />
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For those who want to read ''Zen Pencils'': There is nothing for you here. There is nothing of value in this webcomic. It is the product of pandering and Wikiquote created for people whose personal development ended at the age of 14. The bastard child of high-school lit and post-collage pretension designed to save one man from the horrors of waking up every day at a reasonable hour. There is nothing in this webcomic you couldn't find in a fortune cookie. Anything in it that is worth reading is worth reading out of the misleading context of its drawings. [http://zenpencils.com/comic/laotzu/ It contains quotes from Lao Tzu more than once] so here is a quote from "The Book of Tao" that I think best describes this webcomic:<br />
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<center>'''''"True things are not pretty<br /><br />
'''''Pretty things are not true"'''''</center><br />
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That is what ''Zen Pencils'' is. It deals in pretty things, hollow platitudes intended to create the illusion of depth by a man who did not think up the things he says but repeats them nonetheless as though he understands what they mean. If ZP was a physical thing instead of a webcomic on the internet I would burn it, gather the ashes in a small pile and then burn it again.<br />
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[[File:1999-02-08-Ozy-and-Millie.gif|700px|thumb|center|700px|I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Gavin Aung Than had seen this ''Ozy And Millie'' strip and failed to realize that Millie's punchline was meant to be ironic.]]<br />
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==Links==<br />
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* [http://zenpencils.com/ The webcomic] - The webcomic also has a number of social media accounts but I don't see a point in linking to them<br />
* [http://chainsawsuit.com/comic/2014/03/21/a-response-to-zen-pencils/ The Chainsawsuit parody]<br />
* [http://shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1919 The Shortpacked! parody]<br />
* [http://zenpencilspencils.tumblr.com "ZenPencilsPencils"] - A parody Tumblr<br />
* [http://drilpencils.tumblr.com/ "Dril Pencils"] - The other parody Tumblr<br />
* [http://astralaves.tumblr.com/post/104943517264 Opinion on why ZP is shit]<br />
* [http://votesatan.tumblr.com/post/76011587801/short-post-about-why-i-hate-zen-pencils Another]<br />
* [http://www.hoodedutilitarian.com/2014/04/art-vs-art-zen-pencils-and-the-critical-imagination/ and another]... so many evil trolls!!!<br />
* [http://badwebcomicswikiforum.yuku.com/topic/125/Should-I-do-Zen-Pencils#.VJ6Rs__fwA The Zen Pencils threads] [http://badwebcomicswikiforum.yuku.com/topic/119/Zen-Pencils-gets-called-out#.VJ6R7v_fwA on our forum]<br />
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[[Category: Webcomics]]</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Everyday_Feminism&diff=31228Everyday Feminism2017-12-16T07:21:22Z<p>DentsAndDings: </p>
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|'''Original Author'''<br />
|[[User:Lt. Art Major|Lt. Art Major]]<br />
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|'''Group Name:'''<br />
|[http://everydayfeminism.com/ Everyday Feminism]<br />
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|'''Ran By:'''<br />
|Sandra Kim<br />
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|'''First Opened On:'''<br />
|First instance of Original Content on February 26, 2015<br />
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|'''Target Audience:'''<br />
|Feminists in pursuit of social liberation or something lol<br />
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|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
|It's stupid. Scratch that, it's totally fucked!<br />
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Hard to find specific strips.<br />
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|'''Community:'''<br />
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The more insane a strip is, the more shares it gets, if that tells you anything.<br />
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|Not available.<br />
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I didn't think I would ever find a place where employees could say, "Because Buzzfeed wouldn't hire me," but here we are.<br />
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Thank you internet.<br />
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==Introduction==<br />
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[http://everydayfeminism.com/about-ef/ Everyday Feminism] launched in June 2012 as an educational platform for social and personal liberation. They put out articles everyday entailing the struggles of the less common <s>man</s> woman in the Western world. They plan to reach this goal by explaining these situations through the lens of, as they put it, intersectional feminism, which is a feminist thought which entails that all issues at it's root are a feminist issue and require feminism as a solution for these problems. It is the philosophical equivalent of a snake that eats its own tail. <br />
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I know what you're thinking, and you're probably thinking, "That doesn't sound like a webcomic at all! That just sounds like a tabloid," and you would be right. However, this online tabloid has made full use of its medium by including a [http://everydayfeminism.com/category/latest-articles/images/ comics] section. Maybe. I don't think that the editors at ''Everyday Feminism'' know what a webcomic is because some of the things listed under "comics" are actually powerpoints.<br />
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==Downfall==<br />
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[[File:EF1.png|300px|thumb|right|Basically]]<br />
The downfall wasn't a point in time in which the webcomic took a dip in quality, but the decision to form a "comics" section of their website to begin with. Their [http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/09/white-privilege-explained/ first] webcomic was a republish of an open source strip titled "White Privilege, Explained in One Simple Comic" which lectures the reader on how white people are at fault for all the worlds problems, and that these problems must be reconciled only by the hands of white people. This is their most shared article on the website to this day.<br />
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The success of this comic's exposure led to the site deciding to put out political cartoons of a similar stature. So they created the [http://everydayfeminism.com/category/latest-articles/images/ comics] section and hired some artists and writers to make their own edutainment strips. They still take work from other artists, sometimes with permission, and while some of the republished strips are some of the more amusing or even high hanging fruit, I'm only going to focus on the ones commissioned by the site itself.<br />
<br />
==The Comics==<br />
<br />
Most of the webcomics at ''Everyday Feminism'' don't belong to ''Everyday Feminism'' itself. Most of the webcomics are taken from other sources and used to illustrated a point made by the site. For this reason, I took a sample of authors hired by the site, and grouped their webcomics into topics so you can get an idea on what positions the site actually holds.<br />
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There are a lot of links here, so don't feel like you have to read all of them. Please don't do that to yourself. I didn't even do that. Just read the ones that make you go, "what the hell?"<br />
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===On Social Activism===<br />
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''Everyday Feminism'''s bread and butter. What you're probably here for.<br />
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Protesting is America's favorite pastime. I know this because there's a protest every week. I can't keep up with it. What the hell are they protesting this time? Who knows? I'll never know because nothing ever gets done in this country.<br />
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I wonder how these citizens could be a better band of protesters. [https://everydayfeminism.com/2017/02/inclusive-effective-protests/ This] article gives some tips such as "go to more of them" and that's it. You have to go to more of these because if there are more people and more different kinds of people then the protest will be more effective. Of course, if there were only a few guys protesting, how would anyone be able to hear a specific and concise voice?<br />
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What do you do when you're not playing dress up and LARPing around with cardboards signs? Like any good game of tag, you're tired of running around, you call [https://everydayfeminism.com/2015/03/steps-to-safer-spaces/ safe] and wait your opponent out. Here you can discuss anything you would like with your fellow comrades. Just make sure everyone agrees on what you say before you say it.<br />
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Hey, men! Did you know that [https://everydayfeminism.com/2017/01/not-all-men-just-enough-of-them/ women can have first world problems] too? It's not just a man thing.<br />
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Did you know? Disrespecting [https://everydayfeminism.com/2016/02/gender-binary-hurts-us-all/ gender binaries] is the fault of all the worlds problems? [https://everydayfeminism.com/2016/02/my-gender-identity-harmless/ I'm] [https://everydayfeminism.com/2016/07/my-identity-more-like-a-garden/ an] [https://everydayfeminism.com/2016/05/transgender-without-dysphoria/ intellectual]. Not a [https://everydayfeminism.com/2015/09/its-not-a-race/ racist]. This problem in the feminist community is second only to not [https://everydayfeminism.com/2015/03/respecting-short-haired-women/ respecting] women. Even the [https://everydayfeminism.com/2016/02/queer-femme-assumptions/ not-really] women. As a woman respecter, I find this respectable. <br />
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Hey! Do you have what it takes to be a feminist? Just remember that this is [https://everydayfeminism.com/2017/03/smile-world-watching/ no laughing matter], and a serious issue. If you mock these fine people, then you're [https://everydayfeminism.com/2016/10/dismissing-us-feminism/ racist]. The term "feminist" has actually come under [https://everydayfeminism.com/2016/06/men-pro-feminist-or-feminist/ some criticism] for its gendered language, leading some to adopt the term "pro-feminist" in order to keep in line with their not-female identity. One may argue that if the word is not applicable to you, then it must not be your problem, but that's racist.<br />
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[[File:Eraser.jpg|thumb|200px|right|This is what I want to do to minorities.]]<br />
The other day I realized that there just isn't enough Latvians in media. How can this be? Latvians are real, and their struggle was real. Where are all the Latvians in my movies? I know Latvians make up only a small proportion of the planet, but we still need to have at least one Latvian in every novel or it's Jingoistic.<br />
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Representation is [https://everydayfeminism.com/2016/12/representation-in-comics/ the most important thing] you can have in media. No one engages in a story for interesting ideas or fascinating characters, it's so we can see how different we all are as a civilization. If we don't include every facet of everyone into our media, they might just [https://everydayfeminism.com/2017/01/cycle-trans-acting-invisibility/ disappear]. Erasure is a serious thing. Minorities have been erased left and right and the only thing we can do about it is put them in our movies. You better not forget this or else there will be [https://everydayfeminism.com/2017/01/consequences-of-misrepresentation/ consequences].<br />
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===On Family Life===<br />
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Did you know that when debating with family you should [http://everydayfeminism.com/2017/05/how-to-disagree-with-loved-ones/ try not to shout] at them? What a concept. I need that infographic in my life. I can't tell you how many times I started shouting about politics for no reason at my immediate family. ''Everyday Feminism'' would like to inform you that [http://everydayfeminism.com/2017/04/ways-we-ignore-childrens-agency/ child abuse is a bad thing], which is not bad advice, but somehow warps into a think piece on rape culture. Which is not to say that the piece is on child rape, but that telling your kids what to do will lead to them taking unwanted sexual advances in the future, regardless of any personal decision making. Maybe stretch before you make that reach, yeah?<br />
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===On The Internet===<br />
<br />
''Take a spin now you're in with the technoset''<br />
<br><br />
''You're going surfing on the internet''<br />
[[File:Trauma.png|400px|thumb|right|This is what the Internet is really like.]]<br />
The internet is a real spooky place invented in September 1993 by the Clinton Administration, spearheaded by Al Gore, to subvert traditional American values, bringing pornography, online shopping, and PHP to every American household. While Americans were distracted, Bill Clinton was body-snatched by an FBI operative known only as "W" and developed a job inside the government called "The Patriot Act" which would allow the government to spy and collect data on its people using two buildings that were built in advanced to block the paths of two commercial airliners as an excuse. "W" was called out on his schemes and revealed himself as a body snatching and shape shifting alien by late night talk show hosts on Comedy Central. In his failure to promote the act, the President was banished from the mortal realm by the Illuminati mystics. Under everyone else's noses, these same Illuminati mystics replaced the President with a lawyer of theirs who could correctly install the Patriot Act by re-branding the act as an on-line pub called "Facebook" bringing the cycle of corruption full circle.<br />
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So basically the internet is hauNTED AND YOU SHOULD NEVER GO THERE!!!!!!!!!<br />
<br />
In case you ever accidentally go there, ''Everyday Feminism'' has you covered. If you're ever [http://everydayfeminism.com/2017/03/news-not-emotionally-compromising/ suffering from emotional abuse on the internet], the fine ladies at ''Everyday Feminism'' urge you to simply do anything else. ''Everyday Feminism'' keep on coming with the hard hitting journalism by urgings its viewers to [http://everydayfeminism.com/2016/11/shouldnt-debate-with-ppl-online/ not] [http://everydayfeminism.com/2017/01/sealioning/ interact] with the trolls. My heroes.<br />
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===On Relationships===<br />
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Let's say you are a young man in your twenties and you're looking for a date. You search high and low and on the Internet and in other places you don't want to talk about. Sooner or later you score and evening with a nice looking lady. You take her out to a nice restaurant which is both affordable and a quality the two of you can appreciate. She turns out to be nice and funny. You really hit it off.<br />
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You decide to take her back to your place. You lock eyes. The two of you sway back and fourth. The temperature is just right. She begins to take off her clothes. Just as you think this is going to be your break after a long work week but - uh oh - she has a penis.<br />
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What do you do? Do you run? Do you hide? Do you call the cops? 911? Is this rape? Unfortunately, ''Everyday Feminism'' does not have you covered because their [http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/05/tips-first-date-trans-woman/ manual on how to date traps] is the most convoluted thing I have ever laid eyes on. They do, however, have a clear cut guide to [http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/04/women-who-dont-want-children/ never having children.] This guide on [http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/03/healing-a-broken-heart/ what to do after breaking up with someone] is incredibly indecisive. Maybe it was meant to be read after the trap one.<br />
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And now, for the final round, what happens if your gf is a [http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/03/coming-out-as-polyamorous/ fucking slut] and there are no two ways around it? According to this guide, she will just tell you and you will be OK with this. No reason to drop her like a bad habit for sleeping around.<br />
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Thank you Anna Bongiovanni, who wrote most of these. Donate to her [https://www.patreon.com/annabongiovanni Patreon] which of course she has one.<br />
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===On Self Improvement===<br />
<br />
This next section is for loser's eyes only, so no looking Brandon.<br />
[[File:Wheresmybrain.png|400px|thumb|right|This guy has to know.]]<br />
There have been too many articles about not being mean to the blacks. It's about time I look at the articles about [http://everydayfeminism.com/2016/07/self-love-after-mistakes/ not being mean to yourself]. What a fun and positive message for all of us to enjoy. [https://everydayfeminism.com/2016/12/resolution-be-nice-to-yourself/ This] one is about how you should never laugh ever again, because it will boost your self-esteem.<br />
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Consider for a moment how rare a blue moon is. The moon gaining a blue hue in our atmosphere, an event that happens maybe once every one and a half years. Not very rare. Now consider the solar eclipse, an astronomical event which takes place every seven years or so. Now that's rare. Finally, consider for me, the chances of your average American ever seeing a bowl of salad. [https://everydayfeminism.com/2015/10/loving-self-as-gain-weight/ Priceless.]<br />
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This website does have strips explaining some more real topics, like [http://everydayfeminism.com/2017/06/tips-coping-with-chronic-pain/ how to deal with immense pain] or [https://everydayfeminism.com/2017/02/feminist-aging-gracefully/ how to grow up] and maybe most up to date and relevant [http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/07/how-to-know-if-ive-been-raped/ how to tell if you have been raped or not]. Sometimes I look out my window and think to myself, have I been raped? If only there was some way I could have known if it happened. These rapists are real sneaky, you know. They're like ninjas. Sometimes when I'm at the library, checking out a book, I sometimes notice these rapists raping a woman out in the public, but because they are so fast, no one ever catches them. Most don't even notice. How do they keep getting away with this? Who will stop all these raping ninjas. If only there were some kind of rape-stopping hero who could end all these rapes for once and for all. I need everyone to donate just ten dollars to the Bad Webcomics Wiki so that we can hire a rape-stopping hit man and save the Internet from surprise rapes for once and for all.<br />
<br />
===On Politics===<br />
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The artists at ''Everyday Feminism'' would like to [http://everydayfeminism.com/2016/06/what-not-voting-really-means/ remind you to vote] because democracy is a fair and balanced system that is essential to the mainstay of our political system until [http://everydayfeminism.com/2017/03/news-not-emotionally-compromising/ the wrong guy gets elected]. The moral of that story is to [http://everydayfeminism.com/2017/01/pro-life-rhetoric-hypocrisy/ not be a hypocrite] ever.<br />
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[http://everydayfeminism.com/2017/05/affordable-childcare-possible/ also gib monies pl0x]<br />
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===On Furries===<br />
<br />
For some bizarre reason, one web cartoonist decided to educate me about furries. I wish she(?) didn't do that because I hate furries. Furries are despicable on every front. Furries are the gayest shit on the planet. There is nothing inherently cute or funny about an animal that looks like a human. It's creepy. These people are on the lowest rung of the hobbyist totem pole. What a bizarre and cruel way to spend your time.<br />
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This statement may come across as dense, because there are many contributers to this wiki who are furries. To that I say, you don't get a free pass just because you say the funny words on the silly webzone. You people sicken me. How dare you engage in borderline bestiality. What kind of curveball is that? Just because they look like humans doesn't make them OK. Those who identify as an animal are even crazier. Fuck those guys. I didn't climb to the top of the animal kingdom just to watch my species act like genetic peasants. Do you think there are dogs who think they are humans? Those dogs would be shot on sight.<br />
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There is an article on [http://everydayfeminism.com/2016/05/furries-debunked/ furries] at ''Everyday Feminism'' but it fails to mention that sometimes lost mental patients will be under the impression that they are their long dead pet gerbil. These people need help and these conventions are only enabling them. Do your part and make a DeviantArt account and start leaving some honest reviews on some thirteen year old's deviation in order to prevent this degeneracy from spreading.<br />
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===On Mental Illness===<br />
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All right, now '''this''' is where I draw the line. You cannot have your cake and eat it. You can make up genders, make obesity a race, but when you start brings actual well-being into your schism, I have to draw the line. No more jokes. This is a serious review now.<br />
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Look at that [http://everydayfeminism.com/2017/07/mental-disorders-are-not-trendy/ mental disorders are not cool or interesting to have]. Why, thank you! At least there is some decency to be found on this website. I hope that this exact same author doesn't do something to ruin her claim.<br />
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[[File:Mental.jpg|thumb|800px|center]]<br />
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Oh, OK. Paranoid delusions are actually funny colorful Pokemon. <br />
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The cartoonist in question seems to actually have schizophrenia, and is the subject of nearly all of her strips. She has made guides about [http://everydayfeminism.com/2016/11/guide-for-schizophrenia/ living with] [http://everydayfeminism.com/2016/09/what-to-do-about-paranoia/ schizophrenia] and they come from a very personal place, but even then, I don't think that she is doing illness justice. I don't know how you can say [http://everydayfeminism.com/2017/04/cope-voices-in-my-head/ you have to grab the bull by the horns] and also say [http://everydayfeminism.com/2016/01/trigger-warnings-matter/ it's nice to know upfront when things I don't like will happen]. Idealism isn't real and these are conflicting viewpoints. She might not be a hypocrite in her own mind, because that second one doesn't use her stand in, so she may have been commissioned to say that. If that's the case, then it's sick that this website is manipulating a sick person to do their sick work.<br />
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===Conclusion===<br />
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I hope I gave you a good idea as to what ''Everyday Feminism'' is, because I still have no idea what any of this means.<br />
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==Community==<br />
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[[File:EFComm.png|1000px|Center]]<br />
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==Store==<br />
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It doesn't have a store, but it was advertising a "Remove Toxic Whiteness Boot Camp" at one point which meets the webcomic aggregate scam quota, I suppose.<br />
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==Various Failures==<br />
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I'm not sure if [[User:izzus|izzus]] thought that this template was going to be used for anything other than the [[Snafu Comics]] review. I don't think ''Everyday Feminism'' has any great failures. Every thing seems self contained. I don't know what to expect. It's just an all around shitty website.<br />
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These chucklefucks are going out of business, which is the most epicest fail one can muster, so hahahajajajahuehuehuexaxaxaxa<br />
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==Links==<br />
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*[http://everydayfeminism.com/category/latest-articles/images/ List of "Comics"]<br />
*[https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Everyday_Feminism Encyclopedia Dramatica] Has an article which is more boring than mine.<br />
*[[Hathor the Cow Goddess]] A thankfully long-gone webcomic with roughly similar themes.<br />
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[[Category:Webcomics]]</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Stalag_%2799&diff=29674Stalag '992017-07-09T12:52:45Z<p>DentsAndDings: /* Author biography */ dead links</p>
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|'''Original review author:'''<br />
| [[User:Long Tom|Long Tom]]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Webcomic name:'''<br />
| [http://www.stalag99.net/ Stalag '99]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Author:'''<br />
| [http://www.stalag99.net/info/who.html "The Unusual Suspects", main author Kelly "STrRedWolf" Price, contributions by others]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Start Date:'''<br />
| September 5, 1999<br />
|-<br />
|'''End Date:'''<br />
| July 2, 2010<br />
|-<br />
|'''Genre:'''<br />
| Furry, Science Fiction, Fetishism<br />
|-<br />
|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
| Grotesquely weird (and poorly-drawn) furry characters, too many reused pictures, too much text, too much technobabble, story is meandering and random.<br />
|}<br />
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'''Rating Summary'''<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable" style="width:600px"><br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Art:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
Ugly, stiff, flat, repetitive, and software-drawn. The same pictures are often reused (with minor tweaks) in each panel of a strip, or even over multiple strips.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
An actual plot comes late to this webcomic, and even then it is meandering and random.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Characters:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
Neither interesting nor developed.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
The webcomic's title is nonsensical. It was started in 1999, but stalags were [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalag German prisoner-of-war camps that existed during World Wars One and Two]...which has no bearing that I can see upon the scenario.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
Ugly, grotesque, meandering, random, and boring, but what really stands out is the fact that this webcomic reuses the same pictures over and over again for most of its run. Talk about artistic laziness!<br />
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==Background==<br />
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This webcomic was listed on the [http://badwebcomicswikiforum.yuku.com/topic/5/Re-Todo-List?page=-1?page=-1#.UmleNHC8DvY to-be-reviewed section of the BWW forum]. Easy to see why.<br />
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==Downfall==<br />
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The webcomic always sucked.<br />
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==Story and Plot==<br />
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[[File:FourQuestions.png|thumb|right|Questions you'll keep asking as you read through this webcomic.]]<br />
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The scenario depicts a future Earth where humans share their world with a furry race known as "Canmephians", who are divided into two groups: Wolfskunks and Drygers. Wolfskunks are all hermaphrodites while Drygers can be that, male, female or simply genderless. On top of that, these creatures have a [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20010313.html wide variety of] [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20010315.html weird body types]. How weird? See the description in the "Art Review" section below..."Weird" is an understatement and "Creepy" doesn't even begin to describe this (An additional race, the Cobrawolves, appear later in the story, who are a [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20040917.html conquering race] the Canmephians must wage war against).<br />
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The pronoun for hermaphrodites is "Shi", while the possessive word is "Hir" (The webcomic has a number of misspellings, but those terms are deliberate). This may be the author falling in-line with an odd transgender campaign that is trying to add new pronouns to the English language for addressing people of a "Third Gender". There are like six of these that sound almost exactly alike and require to rework the entire English language to accommodate for a group that numbers less than one percent of the population. Of course, these terms are required for the purpose of this webcomic, so I'll use them in this review.<br />
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The story begins at the [http://www.umuc.edu/ University Of Maryland campus in the late 1990's] (contemporaneous with the time the webcomic was first being written), and the [http://www.stalag99.net/d/19990905.html standard] [http://www.stalag99.net/d/19990926.html college] [http://www.stalag99.net/d/19991124.html hijinks] take place. Our heroes [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20000102.html go to bars] and [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20000404.html testify to Congress about Microsoft and its monopoly], though [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20000423.html the Canmephians' hermaphroditic nature causes some awkwardness] (Um, they live on Earth and people wouldn't already know about that?). They also testify about a "cheeze" embargo and how "cheeze" is [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20000507.html hazardous to their kind]. Another hazard they face is [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20000603.html then-President Clinton]. (Later [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20030804.html everyone in the story is suddenly in the 25th Century]. Don't ask.) Holy [[TwoKinds]]! It turns out these furries [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20000616.html also lack genitals or nipples], hermaphrodites or not. All the same, [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20000702.html biology for them is quite a problem]. But at least [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20000916.html the "cheeze" embargo problem is resolved].<br />
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If the preceding sounds random, it is. It takes about a year before the author finally comes up with [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20010614.html a storyline of sorts]. First the author [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20010619.html tells us] [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20010621.html some] [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20010626.html history] of the Canmephian universe, before describing how RedWolf [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20010717.html joins the Canmephian military and becomes an admiral]. (Author's note: in the United States military, one can only become a flag officer after being approved by Congress, and presumably one cannot possibly become a flag officer in any nation at all without some sort of political sponsorship.) Shi is given [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20010719.html a spaceship] and a mission to [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20010809.html rescue a space station which is under attack]. RedWolf [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20010828.html takes out the raiders attacking it] and [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20010925.html restores order to the station]. And now [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20011002.html the raiders] are [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20011009.html the ones in trouble], as well as [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20011119.html Mir, the traitorous crew member] who had [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20011126.html betrayed the station to them]. RedWolf also has to deal with a [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20020111.html mutation problem]. [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20020227.html A more detailed explanation] [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20020301.html of what had happened] is provided, and RedWolf's next task is to negotiate bringing [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20020520.html Rashana into the military as a lieutenant]. The station [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20020726.html is restored to normal], though at [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20020911.html a heavy price].<br />
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Then RedWolf receives a [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20021028.html mysterious visitor] who tells hir [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20021104.html a bit about hir future]. Then comes a [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20021225.html Christmas poem], and among RedWolf's tasks besides getting a crew for hir spaceship is [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20030317.html feeding orphans]. [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20030416.html Mir and the raiders are executed], and RedWolf [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20030418.html comes up with] [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20030421.html a new project].<br />
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Now begins "Book One". [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20030811.html RedWolf] [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20030813.html reintroduces] [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20030815.html and describes] [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20030818.html hirself], and the [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20030820.html new story begins]. RedWolf's first tasks are to [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20030827.html establish a spaceport], [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20030908.html reconnect with his goylfriend] (they're hermaphrodites, remember), and [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20031024.html rebuild their embassy on Earth]. A fur named Cynthia arrives and [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20040105.html wants to join the service], in hir case to [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20040116.html escape hir] [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20040119.html awful foster family]. Shi goes through a sequence of weird tests and gets [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20040319.html a job at the embassy]. Unfortunately revamping the embassy requires [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20040524.html no small amount of work] on RedWolf's part.<br />
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After [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20040607.html another recap], RedWolf has to [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20040614.html deal with a derelict spaceship] which also has an [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20040721.html alien being] on board. This being turns out to be [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20040802.html a Cobrawolf named Aticston], and RedWolf and shi converse. Aticston learns how Canmephians' lives are [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20040908.html more desirable than those of the Cobrawolves], and shi soon [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20041008.html joins up with RedWolf]. Later, RedWolf gets [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20041025.html a visit] from a... [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20041030.html ghost]? Actually, the "ghost" had appeared to RedWolf at [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20041119.html crucial times in hir life]. And we learn how [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050112.html RedWolf had earned hirself a fortune].<br />
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The author presents [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050131.html several] [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050202.html strips] [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050204.html using the "Poser" program], and they're hardly better than the [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050207.html regular artwork]. The next story arc features Canmephians [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050211.html getting huge] and [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050214.html muscular]... In fact, the theme is [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050216.html extreme bodybuilding] and [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050223.html musclefur competitions]. Yes, in this story arc (actually titled "Muscle Beach"), the characters [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050304.html go to the gym] and [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050309.html turn themselves into] [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050311.html gargantuan musclefurs]. But now we have [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050314.html legal problems] involving [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050316.html the legal recognition of hermaphrodite furs] (Funny that that would even be an issue with the fact that Earth already has naturally hermaphroditic creatures such as [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthworm earthworms] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slug slugs]). Anyway, the [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050404.html musclefur competition begins]. Presenting contestants [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050407.html one], [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050411.html two], [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050413.html three], and [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050415.html four]... And [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050418.html this is who won]! Now the author [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050422.html combines Poser graphics with his ordinary artwork], but they work no better in combination than they do separately. Also, even hermaphrodites (Canmephian ones, anyway) can suffer [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050427.html gender] [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050429.html confusion].<br />
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The new embassy is completed, so [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050523.html it's time to party]! And Canmephians can [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050525.html cook without stoves]! Afterward, [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050606.html Tygris returns], and RedWolf asks about [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050610.html hir anatomy]. And the author takes a few strips to [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050620.html mock] [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050622.html anime fans]. (This from a middle-aged furry who's into bodybuilding rat-skunks with enormous breasts and has been drawing a webcomic about them for over a decade with the skill of an eight-year-old child. Isn't that the pot calling the cauldron black!)<br />
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[http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050624.html Humans] [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050627.html finally] [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050629.html actually appear] [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050701.html in the story], and their role is [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050704.html not insignificant] either. Namely because one [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050708.html literally melted] like the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_Witch_of_the_West Wicked Witch of The West] from the ''Wonderful Wizard Of Oz'' stories, and RedWolf must [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050715.html perform an investigation of this incident]. Shi gathers a team to visit [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050720.html Mark Johnson], a brother of the victim whose [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050729.html other siblings died the same way]. RedWolf talks Johnson into [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050819.html making a trip to do a medical check], and they discover that Johnson not only [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20050914.html has Canmephian DNA in him], but can even [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20051026.html shape-shift like RedWolf can]. But RedWolf has to [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20051028.html train Johnson] to [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20051031.html properly use his newfound ability].<br />
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Then there is a "[http://www.stalag99.net/d/20051102.html Book Two]" followed by a "[http://www.stalag99.net/d/20080901.html Book Three]", but I only barely skip-read through those. It was obviously simply more of the same: poorly-drawn and repetitive pictures, a random and confusing storyline, and incomprehensible technobabble. As the old saying goes, you don't have to eat the whole egg to know that it is rotten.<br />
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The webcomic ostensibly has a plot, but it feels less like a narrative than a stew of events that don't really follow a pattern. Things happen, but there is no sense of overall development, and characters come and go so erratically and randomly that it is too difficult to figure out who is who and where they're supposed to be. (Whatever happened to Aticston?) Furthermore, the webcomic is full of technobabble that is not explained to the reader. What is a "lart"? What is the story with the "multiple" and "prehensile" mutations that were mentioned earlier? I have no idea what any of those things are and the author doesn't really explain those.<br />
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On top of all that, after eleven years, the webcomic abruptly stops without even any sort of conclusion.<br />
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==Art review==<br />
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The art is mostly stiff and unattractive monochrome line drawings with no shading or depth, with occasional Poser-created pictures thrown in. Pictures rarely have backgrounds, and people tend to be positioned too closely to one another, as if the artist were trying to cram too much into too small a space.<br />
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[[File:19990905-DormTour.png|center]]<br />
<center>The very first strip. At least it might have been hand-drawn.</center><br />
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Worse than that, however, is that the webcomic shows mostly talking heads and you rarely see a full body shot. You might ask: "What's wrong with that-some cartoons are about talking heads?" But this is a webcomic about furries with unusual body types; what's the point of having unusual bodies if you rarely even [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20000923.html show them], let alone depict how such bodies can be advantageous or disadvantageous? Also, a lot is depicted in text what could be shown visually. Comics are an inherently graphic medium. If you wanted to make a science fiction story using text, why bother with the talking heads?<br />
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At some point in the strip's run (if not since the beginning), the pictures have obviously been created by imaging software rather than drawn by hand. Also, at about [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20010531.html this point] in the webcomic's run, the author starts reusing the same head shot pictures over and over again in each strip, with only minor expression changes differentiating between panels. One would get the impression that if the author felt at that point that his webcomic was no longer worth spending any more than such minimal effort upon it, he would have simply dropped it. Yet for God knows what reason, he actually continued it for nine more years!<br />
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[[File:20100628-Aces033.png|center]]<br />
<center>One of the final strips from 2010. Note that the same images are used in all three panels with minor tweaks.</center><br />
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[[File:19991024-Shepard.png|center]]<br />
<center>And another thing: Flipping a strip onto its side may work for a newspaper, which can be physically turned on its side, but on a computer screen '''it is just plain stupid.'''</center><br />
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However, I think what stands out most in this webcomic and what turns most people off to it is the character design. Imagine this: Four-armed, six-fingered, hermaphrodite, body-building, furry hybrids with size FF tits. Again, a humanoid wolf/skunk combo with both a dick and a vagina, breasts the size of wrecking balls and muscles like a young Arnold Schwarzenegger. Some even have four (or more) eyes, and I don't mean wearing spectacles, while others have additional heads and limbs and god knows what else. Oh yes, they can expand their bodies by eating a lot, too! Holy [[Boston and Shaun]]! And this is what the creator of this webcomic gets off to. Besides being horribly drawn, it is what he chooses to draw that is most horrifying. Out of all the crazy, sick fetishes we have had displayed here on this site, this one is a top contender for "Most Disgusting". The only thing I can think of that can compare is the monstrosity from [[Latex BLUE]] that was a furry centaur with four tits, tentacles and a six-foot dick. I would love to see those two collaborate just to witness what kind of horror they could come up with. Probably something that would make H. P. Lovecraft hide under a bed.<br />
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Ironically, though, while I found the fundamental concept of the character designs disgusting for the reasons just described, the artwork is so wretchedly flat, stiff, and dull that I could not bring myself to place a "Disgusting" tag on this review because it couldn't get any reaction out of me except boredom. It manages to make the artwork of [[Jack]] look good (or at least interesting) by comparison.<br />
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If you are a novice artist, take in mind that bodies like this, without all the oversexualized feat can result in a very interesting and attractive touch to your webcomic. However, mix some fetishes with it, kill variety, and screw on quality and this is pretty much what you like.<br />
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==Writing review== <br />
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The webcomic starts with a year of randomness, then the author finally comes up with a plot of sorts. Unfortunately, the story is depicted mostly with detached heads over empty backgrounds having conversations, and rarely do we see any actions depicted visually. Anything that isn't described in conversations is usually told using [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20011016.html walls of text]. "A picture is worth a thousand words" goes the old saying, but the author evidently prefers the thousand words. This makes a storyline, which is already complicated and confusing, even harder to follow. The story itself jumps from one situation to another to another, leaving a lot of loose ends. While the webcomic does provide some jokes, they invariably [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20020826.html fall] [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20030912.html flat].<br />
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Characters from other webcomics such as [http://freefall.purrsia.com/ Freefall] and [http://www.brunothebandit.com/ Bruno The Bandit] appear in this webcomic occasionally, but the author admits to putting them in without prior permission from their respective authors.<br />
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The author claims that ''Stalag '99'' is about "How hermaphrodites would be if they acted normally, like normal beings (like you and me) and much unlike sex sluts". So he seems to be calling all hermaphrodites nymphomaniacs... Classy. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and say he must have meant he is trying to fight the stereotype of hermaphrodites as it appears in other webcomics and stories online, but he fails at that too with strips like [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20001104.html this], [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20011004.html this], [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20020215.html this], [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20020218.html this], [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20020724.html this], or [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20020628.html this] [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20020701.html scene]. And this is just a sample of the many strips with such subject matter. No, of course they're not sex sluts. And don't you dare [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20020705.html call] [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20020708.html this] an [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20020710.html inflation] [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20020722.html fetish] webcomic! [http://www.stalag99.net/d/20021011.html Nosiree, Bob!]<br />
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==Author biography== <br />
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[[File:STLAG.png|center|900px]]<br />
<center>'''''Who cares? But you can definitely go screw yourself.'''''</center><br />
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Kelly A. Price is a 37 year old furry, computer nerd and administrator of Keenspot for many years now (real crack team they got over there). I only know a few things about him besides that. Firstly, he regularly attends furry conventions and takes credit for the "Hybrid Furry Craze". In other words, he takes credit for a niche group splitting off from an already niche group in an attempt to either be bigger special snowflakes or bigger perverts. All this tells me about him is that, since he is two furries rolled into one, you will have to wash your hands for twice as long if you ever touch him.<br />
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I don't know if he is a Keenspot admin as a job or as an unpaid volunteer because, according to some sources, Keenspot admins do it for free. However, a few years ago he was [http://www.websnark.com/archives/2005/05/on_things_keen.html mentioned in a ''Websnark'' blog-post] and in response wrote this on his LiveJournal-<br />
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[[File:STALAG2.png|center|900px]]<br><br />
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Not that this reflects badly on him, it's just always fun to see what kind of classy operation Crosby is running over there.<br />
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Besides that he was also involved in [http://strredwolf.livejournal.com/2005/11/09/ a short-lived drama] with ''Something Awful'' when someone posted about him there and they ended up flooding his account's comment section with insults and the like. In response he warned them that he is logging their IP addresses like an old man yelling "I know where you live! I'm telling your parents!" at some kids who set a turd on fire next to his front door.<br />
<br />
And on some final notes:<br />
<br />
1. He hates ''Penny Arcade'' because they once said something mean about furries so now they are his mortal enemies.<br><br />
<br />
2. And also, he's bald. I know this seems like a cheap shot, but WikiFur felt it was important enough to mention on his article for some reason.<br />
<br />
==Conclusion==<br />
<br />
If the author genuinely intended to make a good webcomic, he could have done so. [[Eerie cuties]], before it degenerated into pornography, started off with the concept of what would happen if various legendary monsters were mixed together in a monster school-and the idea was cleverly realized. ''Stalag '99'', on the other hand, has the premise of a race of furries with a wide variety of exotic body types and a wide variety of exotic powers who come to a future Earth...and comes up with a badly-drawn and badly-written and boring webcomic that wouldn't appeal to the writer's fellow fetishists, let alone anyone else.<br />
<br />
==Links==<br />
<br />
* [http://www.lulu.com/shop/kelly-price/stalag-99-book-1-return-to-sender/paperback/product-2247574.html This webcomic in paperback collections] for sale at lulu.com. Has anybody actually ''bought'' any of these?<br />
* [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Horrible/Webcomics ''Stalag '99'' is on the TV Tropes list of horrible comics.]<br />
* [[Twisted Kaiju Theater]] - A webcomic that actually ''did'' mistakenly create a new fetish community.<br />
<br><br />
Here are some of his social media accounts and stuff like that.<br />
<br />
* [http://strredwolf.livejournal.com/ His Livejournal] - Mostly filled with technobabble.<br />
* [http://stalag99.livejournal.com/ The Stalag 99' Livejournal].<br />
* You want all his personal information? You can find it [http://who.godaddy.com/whois.aspx?domain=stalag99.net&prog_id=GoDaddy here].<br />
* [http://strredwolf.deviantart.com/ His DA page] - Where he seems to be pretending to be 27.<br />
* [http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Kelly-Price/ Some sort of strange archive of his shit.]<br />
* [http://strredwolf.furrynet.com/index1.html Some other website he made].<br />
* [http://flickr.com/photos/strredwolf/ His Flicker] - Come look at two hundred pictures of a grown man walking around a convention in a costume.<br />
* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/strredwolf/ His FurAffinity account.]<br />
* [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/STrRedWolf His WikiFur article.]<br />
* [https://twitter.com/strredwolf His twitter.]<br />
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:STrRedWolf This is him on Wikipedia.]<br />
* [http://www.reddit.com/user/STrRedWolf On Reddit.]<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/user/strredwolf On YouTube].<br />
* [http://www.smackjeeves.com/profile.php?id=146726 SmackJeeves].<br />
* [http://www.furbuy.com/seller/STrRedWolf.html?as=a On FurBuy] - Where furries buy and sell their old fursuits they used to jerk-off in to one another.<br />
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Oh god, he has like 50 more accounts on other sites... Forget this.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.stalag99.net/info/about.html The author describes how the webcomic came to be.]<br />
* [http://www.stalag99.net/info/faq.html The author's Frequently Asked Questions page]<br />
* [http://strredwolf.furrynet.com/anything2ro.php?node=4 The author describes the furry society which is the basis for his webcomic.]<br />
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{{keenspot}}</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Zen_Pencils&diff=22268Zen Pencils2015-05-07T03:43:27Z<p>DentsAndDings: /* Misleading Content */</p>
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|'''Original review author:'''<br />
| [[User:Oddguy|oddguy]]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Webcomic name:'''<br />
| [http://zenpencils.com/ Zen Pencils]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Author:'''<br />
| [http://gavinaungthan.com/ Gavin Aung Than]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Start Date:'''<br />
| January 30, 2012<br />
|-<br />
|'''End Date:'''<br />
| Continually slogging along<br />
|-<br />
|'''Genre:'''<br />
| One part Hallmark greeting card, one part faux-inspirational "Hang in there" kitty poster, 100% pretension<br />
|-<br />
|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
| I'm afraid to say this comic has any flaws because Gav might kill me and scribble "ART" on the walls of his house with my blood<br />
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|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
The art isn't bad or great but it also isn't the problem.<br />
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|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
There aren't many "Storylines", but when there are it just makes you wish Gavin would go back to his insipid "Inspirational" comics.<br />
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|'''Characters:'''<br />
|Not applicable.<br />
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|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
Does Gavin not make enough money from this webcomic to host it on a site that doesn't crash while loading?<br />
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|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
Gets an extra point for not being drawn with stick figures. But it's really not worth reading.<br />
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==Background and Downfall==<br />
[[File:Stokoe.png|thumb|left|200px|What James Stokoe thinks of this comic]]<br />
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The background and the downfall of this comic are pretty intertwined and not very complicated so I might as well just explain them both together.<br />
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The long and short of it is simply that this comic was always bad, I never liked it and, much like in [[So... You're a Cartoonist?]] (which I also reviewed), an ill-advised change of pace for the comic made it go from bad to worse and therefore worth reviewing.<br />
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In the case of Tom Preston, the change was an attempt to write plotted stories instead of gag strips, and similarly, ZP earned the ire of internet users everywhere when its creator attempted to stop making his lazy motivational posters for a spell and try his hand at an original story. Not to get ahead of ourselves I'll just say that the topic of the new comic was his declaration of war against internet trolls in the most insane way possible.<br />
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==Art review==<br />
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The art is okay in my opinion. Nothing too fancy, the caricatures of historical figures are good enough for me to know who they are, the style switches up a bit from time to time and the quality has improved a bit since the comic started so I can't accuse it of stagnating.<br />
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It isn't amazing and at times is a little flat, but Than has a degree in graphic design so I can't say he doesn't know what he's doing.<br />
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The only negative thing I can really say about the art is that he doesn't know how to depict people from other cultures in anything but cartoonish racial stereotypes. I would accuse him of racism, but even when he draws his own race he ends up being just as bad, [http://zenpencils.com/comic/65-marianne-williamson-our-deepest-fear/ opting to draw a family of asians as literally yellow] and [http://zenpencils.com/comic/36-bruce-lee-there-are-no-limits/ Bruce Lee] as fighting caricatures of chinese martial arts masters with long beards and ponytails. All I can say is that when a variety of races appear in a single comic is feels like I'm going through the "It's A Small World" ride at Disneyland.<br />
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==Writing review== <br />
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There is a lot wrong with this comic so I think it's better if I separate this into sections.<br />
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<br />
====Misleading Content====<br />
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[[File:Zen pencils.jpg|thumb|right|300px|A man realizes the folly of racism after traveling the world and discovering that every single racial stereotype is true]]<br />
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There is no real writing in this comic. ZP is just random "inspirational" quotes presented with matching illustrations. This in and of itself is not a bad idea (but less for a webcomic and perhaps more for some sort of greeting card business, which ZP is close to being), but the exaction by Gav is horrendous.<br />
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First of all, Than has no idea what he's talking about. A lot of these quotes are out of context or with misleading cartoons added to them showing that Gavin didn't really understand them. Take for example his quotes form the [http://zenpencils.com/comic/the-dalai-lama-answers-a-question/ Dali] [http://zenpencils.com/comic/143-the-dalai-lama-we-are-all-human-beings/ Lama], one of which he never actually said. Or, better yet, take this [http://zenpencils.com/comic/william-ernest-henley-invictus/ this early comic] where Gav interprets William Henley's "Invictus" to mean "If you are getting bullied beat the bullies to death with a hammer." This comic was later continued with another three strips, but it doesn't make things better, because at no point does the kid in the comic suffer any real consequences ([http://zenpencils.com/comic/45-walt-whitman-o-me-o-life/ besides some light teasing]) and it all ends with the other kids at school forgiving him and him [http://zenpencils.com/comic/114-playing-the-game/ playing baseball with them]. Yay! A happy ending! Three cheers for premeditated attempts at homicide!<br />
<br />
This same quote was later used again in [http://zenpencils.com/comic/140-invictus-a-comic-tribute-to-nelson-mandela/ a tribute to Nelson Mandela], forgetting that Mandela's organization murdered over 130 people. And that brings me to another problem: Hero worship is stupid because people are awful. A lot of these so-called "inspirational folks" that Gavin loves quoting so much were horrible fucking people. [http://zenpencils.com/comic/15-gandhi-the-right-state-of-mind/ Gandhi] was a racist and believed that [http://www.patheos.com/blogs/drishtikone/2013/01/gandhi-also-blamed-women-for-getting-raped-do-misogyny-and-obsession-with-sexual-purity-go-hand-in-hand/ women who get raped secretly want to get raped], [http://zenpencils.com/comic/58-living-well-is-the-best-revenge Mark Zuckerberg] wasn't some poor bulling victim but rather a giant asshole all his life and so was [http://zenpencils.com/comic/16-steve-jobs-your-time-is-limited/ Steve Jobs]. The same goes for [http://zenpencils.com/comic/47-muhammad-ali-i-know-the-truth/ Muhammad Ali] whom he quoted about five times.<br />
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But it's not just about him quoting people he had no way of knowing aren't worth idolizing (except, you know... doing a simple Google search), it feels like he doesn't know who '''any''' of the people he quotes are or what they stand for. Going so far as to [http://zenpencils.com/comic/41-ayn-rand-the-question/ quote Ayn Rand], the inventor of "Objectivism", in one of her many musings on the value of pure selfishness as some inspiring message about not giving up. And this extends not only to mere ignorance of the person's background, but all the way to blatant misrepresentation. Gavin has the gall to quote comedians [http://zenpencils.com/comic/24-george-carlin-on-assassination-explicit/ like] [http://zenpencils.com/comic/26-george-carlin-on-technology-explicit/ George] [http://zenpencils.com/comic/23-george-carlin-on-religious-hats-explicit/ Carlin] and [http://zenpencils.com/comic/95-louis-c-k-we-dont-think-about-how-we-talk/ Louis C.K] and paint their words with a rosy brush when all their works have always been brimming with contempt for their fellow man (I'm confident that's true for other comedians he quotes but I am not familiar with their work and, unlike Gavin, have no intention of pretending to be). [http://zenpencils.com/comic/25-george-carlin-on-bullshit-explicit/ He even quotes Carlin's bit on recognizing bullshit], oblivious to the fact his comics all contain exactly the kind of bullshit Carlin wanted to warn people about. And just to add insult to injury, he quotes [http://zenpencils.com/comic/14-hunter-s-thompson-buy-the-ticket/ Hunter S. Thompson] ([http://zenpencils.com/comic/43-hunter-s-thompson-the-happier-man/ twice]), illustrating his famous "Take the ride" quote as a happy little girl taking a fun little ride on a roller coaster.<br />
<br />
I think it's important to point out that his Carlin quotes were all fired in rapid succession, and the same is true for his quotes from Ali. This leads me to suspect he would just pick out whatever famous figure he knew and would look up their page on wikiquotes. What reaffirms my suspicion is that, as time went on and the comic got more popular, he started drawing from source material that was more obscure. This can be explained by there being more submissions from his fans who were only slightly less pretentious than him, at which point he would do the same thing in reverse and, instead of looking up quotes to match the figure, he would read up a little bit about the person he just quoted so that he can pretend to know what he's talking about in the comment section at the bottom.<br />
<br />
However, this problem has even more layers. It isn't only that Gav misunderstands quotes and misrepresents intentions, nor is it only that he fails to research the people he misquotes; he also fails to research the events surrounding them. Take for example [http://zenpencils.com/comic/68-jesse-owens-the-inevitable-battle/ this comic] where he perpetuates the myth that in the 1936 Olympics, Hitler refused to shake Jesse Owens' hand because he was mad that a black man won. In reality, Hitler didn't shake the hand of ''any'' of the contestants and, unlike president FDR who didn't even call to congratulate him, waved at Jesse and sent him a gift. So history rarely conforms to people's spiteful fantasies. <br />
<br />
You see what I'm saying? A lot of the cults of personality around these people are undeserved, a lot of what we think we know about them isn't true, a lot of the events didn't unfold the way we were told and people regarding everything they hear as deep and profound based solely on the source without ever looking into any of it are idiots. After all, even Mother Teresa was reportedly a giant bitch.<br />
<br />
The real issue is this: It is really easy to make people accept things as true without thinking about them if you only cite someone noteworthy as their source or say them with a sufficient air of gravity. There is one saying I think illustrates this better than anything with its vapidness and faux depth and, surprise surprise, [http://zenpencils.com/comic/94-the-two-wolves/ Gavin has already made a comic out of it]. The saying in question is that old tale about the Indian boy and his grandfather telling him the story about the two wolves. First of all, the original saying probably involves two Eskimos and is an allegory for keeping the faith in Christianity. Gavin admits he knew this but went with the Native American version anyway because, hey, what's a little casual racism between friends? However, that's all besides the point. The point is: What does this proverb even mean? The wolves are a metaphor for anger, feeding them is a metaphor for getting angry so... if you allow yourself to be angry you will be angry? Fucking brilliant! And yet people repeat this vacuous nonsense like a fucking mantra, never once stopping to think how devoid of meaning it is.<br />
<br />
Still, a hollow shell of wisdom is the best you can hope for in these cases because it can just as easily be a moral that is toxic and misleading. [http://zenpencils.com/comic/52-phil-plait-welcome-to-science/ Take this comic for instance] where the person is quoted as saying "No creationist ever cracked the genetic code", which can be taken to mean "Ha ha! religion is so stupid! No one who believes in some silly 'God' has ever contributed anything to science!", which is grossly untrue. But you have to believe it! After all, it has some nice pictures and it was said by Phil Plait! Wait, who the hell is "Phil Plait"? Oh right, he's just some guy who runs a blog.<br />
<br />
See how simple it is to get people to believe in anything if you attribute to the right source? (or just to some nobody and hope now one bothers to read the comments) Zen Pencils hardly promotes the kind of free thinking it harps on about. And, since we've now arrived at both the issue of bad advice and the issue of this comic's main topic, let's move on to the heart of this comic: The central message.<br />
<br />
====ZP's Underline Moral====<br />
<br />
There is one prevailing, central point this comic often comes back to, but first, some background:<br />
<br />
Gavin Aung Than wanted to be an artist, studied graphic design to play it safe, worked 8 years at it before quitting his job and selling his house to pursue his dream. And, amazingly, through a combination of appealing to the lowest common denominator and shameless pandering, he became a "[[The Oatmeal]]" style success story and now dedicates himself to telling others to do the same.<br />
<br />
So the repeating theme of this comic tends to be people being unsatisfied with their office job, quitting to peruse their calling (which is almost always art) and various plagiarized quotes appropriated to advise people to do just that. It just goes on and on like that. "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/4-robert-frost-the-faithful-worker/ Quit your job]!" "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/confucius-find-a-job-you-love/ Become an artist]!", "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/benjamin-franklin-dont-get-trapped/ Quit your job]!" "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/50-neil-gaiman-make-good-art/ Become an artist]!", "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/mark-twain-no-regrets/ Quit your job]!" "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/90-ira-glass-advice-for-beginners/ Become an artist]!", "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/20-robert-frost-the-brain-is-a-wonderful-organ/ Quit your job]!" "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/113-vincent-van-gogh-in-spite-of-everything/ Become an artist]!", "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/30-dean-karnazes-theres-no-struggle-in-our-lives/ Quit your job]!" "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/150-jim-henson-a-puppeteers-advice/ Become an artist]!", "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/32-rainer-maria-rilke-letter-to-a-young-poet/ Quit your job]!" "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/kevinsmith/ Become an artist]!", "[http://zenpencils.com/comic/70-christopher-mccandless-into-the-wild/ Quit your job]! [http://zenpencils.com/comic/83-howard-thurman-ask-yourself/ Quit your job]! [http://zenpencils.com/comic/98-alan-watts-what-if-money-was-no-object/ Quit your job]!". Forget about your responsibilities! You don't have kids to feed or a mortgage to pay! You'll do fine with the money you saved up from your high paying office job! What's that? You don't have any money saved up because you work at McDonald's and just trying to get by? Doesn't matter! Follow your dreams at all costs! Just like [http://zenpencils.com/comic/122-charles-bukowski-roll-the-dice/ this guy in my comic whose obsession with "Game of Thrones" is destroying his marriage]! There is no way this could go wrong! After all, look at me! I did it! That's why [http://zenpencils.com/comic/150-jim-henson-a-puppeteers-advice/ half the people in these comics are myself]! And as you browse Facebook on your cellphone and read my comic that someone linked to you there, don't forget [http://zenpencils.com/comic/77-albert-einstein-a-human-being-is-part-of-a-whole/ that cellphones and] [http://zenpencils.com/comic/129-marc-maron-the-social-media-generation/ Facebook are stupid] (except when I use them to make my living which is fine). Gavin finds a way to make every other quote he draws support this position, [http://zenpencils.com/comic/32-rainer-maria-rilke-letter-to-a-young-poet even when using one the intention of which was to say that you DON'T need to do anything drastic like quit your job to enjoy life] he somehow finds a way to misinterpret it to mean the exact opposite.<br />
<br />
There is so much wrong with this way of thinking and so much danger in someone actually following Than's advice wholeheartedly. First and foremost, if you have an office job you should be grateful. You could just as easily be cleaning out shit or being yelled at be a fat woman with her husband's ballsack on her breath about her burger not having enough pickles as her spittle bounces off your face. You should be grateful for ''anything'' you have because 100 years ago concepts like "Disposable income" and "Social mobility" didn't exist. Plus, not everyone wants to be an artist! Not everyone is good at art and won't become good just by trying really hard. Some people's idea of happiness is an office job where they make a lot of money and can lord over people. The path to doing what you really want often goes through 20 years pushing papers until you get promoted high enough so you can buy that fucking boat. Not everyone can live off the low salary of an artist and job satisfaction is not always enough. Having a job you really want is often worthless if you come home to a slum and a microwave dinner. Finally, your job isn't supposed to be fun. If work was fun people would have no reason to pay you to do it. What you ''should'' strive for is having a job you don't hate that leaves you with enough time and money to spend your hours away from it enjoying yourself with friends and family because that the best most of us can hope for. If everyone just up and quit to follow their pipe dreams the economy would collapse and there sure as hell would be no room left in the art world for a hack like Gavin.<br />
<br />
The real slap to the face isn't that Gavin lucked out and honestly thinks everything will be fine if everyone just followed his example, it's that this comic isn't very "Zen" at all. To go back to my previous issue with the comic's inconsistency between the source material and the final result, I would like to add that, not only is ZP often proven wrong by the people, event and at times even the actual quotes it uses, but also, in the few rare occasions that ZP ''does'' quote something remotely zen-like, it's always in stark contrast to its usual "Work hard and achieve your dreams!" motto. Like when Gav [http://zenpencils.com/comic/69-buddha-less-is-more/ quotes Gautama Buddha] about being happy by letting go of ego-driven ambitions and [http://zenpencils.com/comic/80-henry-david-thoreau-on-happiness/H.D Thoreau] about letting happiness come to you while the rest of ZP contradicts itself and tells you that you will never be happy unless you follow your ambitions at any cost like a giant egotist.<br />
<br />
====The Troll Arc====<br />
<br />
<br />
[[File:zp11.png|center]]<br />
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<br />
This is when things really went downhill.<br />
<br />
''Zen Pencils'' was no stranger to making [http://zenpencils.com/comic/120-terence-mckenna-nature-loves-courage/ insipid comics about those darn, dirt trolls], the [http://zenpencils.com/comic/50-neil-gaiman-make-good-art/ first of which] used a quote by Neil Gaiman that contained the words <br />
<br />
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'''''"[if] someone on the internet thinks what you're doing is stupid or evil or it's all been done before... make good art"'''''<br />
<br />
[[File:Crying zp.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Gav's feelings on criticism]]<br />
that are placed over a drawing of someone literally crying in front of his computer screen and then using that as inspiration to write a book about trolls. This is a great example of why you shouldn't take anything said by a famous person you admire as words directly from the mouth of god. People make mistakes, even people you look up to. So, while it's okay to like Gaiman and enjoy his books and draw on things he says for inspiration, it doesn't mean you also have to support his feverish defense of cartoon child pornography. So, if someone on the internet thinks what you're doing is stupid then, even if they are trolls, they might be right. And if someone on the internet thinks what you are doing is evil, then maybe you should stop. Oh, and if someone on the internet tells you that what you are doing has all been done before then you are probably Gavin Aung Than who doesn't seem to have had an original thought in his life.<br />
<br />
To get to the point, in one of his more recent comic he decided to stop stealing quotes for [http://zenpencils.com/comic/144-the-artist-troll-war-1-hatred-breeds-hatred/ long enough] [http://zenpencils.com/comic/145-the-artist-troll-war-part-2-negativity-destroys-all/ to write] [http://zenpencils.com/comic/146-the-artist-troll-war-3-creators-haters/ an original] [http://zenpencils.com/comic/147-the-artist-troll-war-4-good-art-triumphant/ story] and boy did he pick a great topic. In the four pages of the comic people who have engaged in online trolling suddenly have their heads explode into green mush that all gathers together in one place and turns into a giant slime monster with "#HATE" embedded in its chest (just in case you thought the comic was being too subtle) that proceeds to eat artists alive while <s>criticizing</s> trolling them.<br />
<br />
To combat this creature one <s>Hayao</s> H. Miyazaki gathers together a crack team of artists that together build a giant robot designed to fight the monster, making this the first time in history that an artist has created something that is of any actual use to anybody. The robot contains recordings of '''not''' Kanye West and '''not''' Lady Gaga that is uses to confront the slime monster and blast it with loud hip-hop music. The creature has the reaction you would expect to having to listen to rap and begins to vomit uncontrollably (why are you so racist Gavin?), then the robot flies this kaiju to the moon where it vandalizes it by writing "ART" on it with the liquefied corpses of its enemies.<br />
<br />
So what were these nasty trolls saying that was so bad they deserved to die? Let's see...<br />
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<center>'''''"He's a terrible comedian I didn't laugh once #diedonstage #hack"'''''</center><br />
<br />
<br />
Well, that's sort of rude I guess... Let's see what else.<br />
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<center>'''''"I loved her old stuff but now I'd rather die a thousand deaths than listen to her new music #sellout"'''''</center><br />
<br />
<br />
I suppose there isn't really a need for hyperbole in the criticism but otherwise it doesn't seem so bad... Let's see what this little old lady character has to say. <br />
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<center>'''''"Her performance was thin and unconvincing, turgid and uninspired. #Theaterisdead"'''''</center><br />
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<br />
This just seems like valid criticism! Why is her head exploding?!<br />
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So there you have it, this is what Gavin considers "trolling." Light criticism often peppered with praise. [http://brenebrown.com/2014/04/08/daring-interview-series-meet-gavin-aung/ In one interview], predating this comics, he talked about addressing the issue of "troll culture" in a future comic because, while he's fine with criticism, some of the comments he has gotten were "just pure, hateful stuff." If what's in this comic is any indication of what he considers to be "hateful," then I imagine that the criticism he claims to be fine with must come with a complimentary hand-job from its author to soothe his temper as he reads it.<br />
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That, however, is not the only baffling thing about this comic. First of all, why choose Miyazaki of all people? Is it because, like most of the people Gavin chose to quote at the start of the comic, he was the lowest hanging fruit? That would be my guess, which is only made more funny considering Gavin wrote in the comments of this comic: <br />
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[[File:Hmiyazaki.png|center]]<br />
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Yes Gavin, only you know who the most famous anime producer in history is. You're such an erudite. However, one thing that Gavin apparently ''doesn't'' know about Hayao Miyazaki is that [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/131872-Hayao-Miyazaki-Anime-Suffers-Because-the-Industry-is-Full-of-Otaku he said the reason he's quitting the anime industry is because he's sick of all the fucking otakus]. Which to me sounds like the kind of criticism that would put him on the troll side of the spectrum using Gavin's criteria. I also find it funny that the robot has Gavin's favorite quote of all times that was said by Theodore Roosevelt and contains the words "it is not the critic who counts" written on it. I find it hard to believe that Miyazaki would like to have Roosevelt quoted on his imaginary giant robot, seeing as how Roosevelt was a white supremacist. But I'm sure we can find other inspirational people who share Than's opinions on criticism! Oh! I found one!<br />
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<center>'''''"Only the person who is able to solve problems better is allowed to criticize."'''''</center><br />
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You know who said that? Adolf Hitler. So you're in really good company there Gav.<br /><br />
You like quotes Gav? [http://zenpencils.com/comic/126-shakespeare-a-love-story-in-four-parts/ You like quoting Shakespeare?] You wanna know what the bard's opinion on criticism is?<br />
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<center>'''''"Now this overdone or come tardy off, though it make the unskillful laugh, cannot but make the judicious grieve, the censure of the which one must in your allowance o'erweigh a whole theatre of others."'''''</center><br />
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So this magnum opus of Gavin's, which he stated that he put extra effort into producing (unlike his regular comics that he actually sells. His paying customers can go fuck themselves I guess) went over about as well as you might think. He [http://24.media.tumblr.com/bd4ee3868e3f75d35c354d11369b2327/tumblr_n2rgrywhS31rphc69o1_500.png got called out by known comic artist "James Stokoe"] and Kris Straub, although his work lost some of its luster since then, [http://chainsawsuit.com/comic/2014/03/21/a-response-to-zen-pencils/ made a parody of this comic as well]. Soon Tumblr was flooded with parodies that I collected so I could add them to this review (my apology for not crediting people's work. I saved these a long time ago and don't remember their source).<br />
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In conclusion, Gavin doesn't just ''draw'' caricatures, he ''is'' a caricature. He's this strawman people like myself are sometimes guilty of constructing but one I never believed could represent the real opinions of an actual person. But there is one real person who thinks this way and that person is Gavin Than. Gavin seems to honestly think that his work is beyond reproach and that anyone who criticizes it couldn't possibly be anything but a troll driven by jealousy for whom the 3rd grade level argument of "Oh yeah? I'd like to see you do better!" is a valid response. He says as much in his final notes to the comic that read:<br />
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'''''"It’s time to choose a side. Are you on the side who takes the easy option? The troll. The armchair critic slinging snarky quips behind the safety of a keyboard. Firing sarcastic bullets at those in the trenches. Or are you a creator? Someone who makes something. Someone who lets themselves be vulnerable in front of an audience, who contributes something new and hopeful to an increasingly dark and depressing world. Choose. Which side are you on?"'''''<br />
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Not only does he make no distinction between a critic and a troll (because he doesn't seem to believe that there is one), he also asserts that everyone in the world is either one of those two things or an artist and no other options exist. It's embarrassing to read, but no more embarrassing than him describing what he does as "the trenches." Really, Gav? You sitting at home, producing one comic every two weeks and drawing people who disagree with you being murdered by a giant robot because you were too lazy to hold down a real job is "the trenches?" Get over yourself, you pompous ass.<br />
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==Author biography== <br />
[[File:Gavinthan.jpg|right|250px]]<br />
This comic is created by Gavin Aung Than, an Asian man in his 30's living in Australia.<br />
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In his various interviews he talks about his inspiration for creating this comic being him hating his desk job as a graphic designer which lead him to quit and sell his house. So if there is anything positive I can say about him is that at least he isn't a hypocrite and follows the same bad advice he constantly gives his fans.<br />
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His previous comics include some painfully unfunny tripe [http://gavinaungthan.com/ that you can find samples of on his site] and exemplify why he should stick to plagiarism and never try to write something original again. He also had a third comic which was published in a newspaper that he admits wasn't very good and was only published there because he worked at that paper's art department. Hooray for nepotism.<br />
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Besides the aforementioned callouts from Straub and Stokoe, his internet adventures also include a [http://shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1919 parody] from [[Shortpacked|Shortpackd!]], mocking [http://zenpencils.com/comic/128-bill-watterson-a-cartoonists-advice/ his use of a quote by Bill Watterson] and, as much as I don't like Dave Willis, I have to admit that this time he's right on the money.<br />
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Recently Gav also got into it with a creator of a parody comic called [http://drilpencils.tumblr.com/ "Dril Pencils"] when he demanded the creator stop using his art. To be clear, this comic wasn't even making fun of Gav or ZP. The blog owner just took random tweets from [https://twitter.com/dril @dril] and inserted them into ZP comic strips. But Gav was too thin skinned to allow even ''perceived'' criticism of his work to continue and too blind to see the irony in him complaining about misuse of his intellectual property when his own comic is nothing but that and when he himself was contacted by Charles Bukowski's editor requesting that he remove [http://zenpencils.com/comic/97-charles-bukowski-air-and-light-and-time-and-space/ a comic using his quote] it didn't stop him from later [http://zenpencils.com/comic/122-charles-bukowski-roll-the-dice/ making more comics using Bukowski's content] despite being asked not to (I really want to email his editor about this just to fuck with him).<br />
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==Conclusion==<br />
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I don't think that if Mr. Than ever finds this page he will get anything out of it. He couldn't be more blocked off from critique if he encased his head in solid lead to avoid seeing or hearing it. I think that if he ever tried to read this article he would recoil from it like it was Kryptonite after finishing a single line.<br />
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For those who want to read Zen Pencils: There is nothing for you here. There is nothing of value in this comic. It is the product of pandering and Wikiquote created for people whose personal development ended at the age of 14. The bastard child of high-school lit and post-collage pretension designed to save one man from the horrors of waking up every day at a reasonable hour. There is nothing in this comic you couldn't find in a fortune cookie. Anything in it that is worth reading is worth reading out of the misleading context of its drawings. [http://zenpencils.com/comic/laotzu/ It contains quotes from Lao Tzu more than once] so here is a quote from "The Book of Tao" that I think best describes this comic:<br />
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<center>'''''"True things are not pretty<br /><br />
'''''Pretty things are not true"'''''</center><br />
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That is what ''Zen Pencils'' is. It deals in pretty things, hollow platitudes intended to create the illusion of depth by a man who did not think up the things he says but repeats them nonetheless as though he understands what they mean. If ZP was a physical thing instead of a comic on the internet I would burn it, gather the ashes in a small pile and then burn it again.<br />
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==Links==<br />
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* [http://zenpencils.com/ The comic] - The comic also has a number of social media accounts but I don't see a point in linking to them<br />
* [http://gavinaungthan.com/bio/ Than's site]<br />
* [http://chainsawsuit.com/comic/2014/03/21/a-response-to-zen-pencils/ The Chainsawsuit parody]<br />
* [http://shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1919 The Shortpacked! parody]<br />
* [http://allmarios.tumblr.com/post/59564296705/all-the-way A parody of the Charles Bukowski strip]<br />
* [http://zenpencilspencils.tumblr.com "ZenPencilsPencils"] - A parody Tumblr<br />
* [http://drilpencils.tumblr.com/ "Dril Pencils"] - The other parody Tumblr<br />
* [http://shittywebcomics.tumblr.com/tagged/zen+pencils ZP related posts on SWC Tumblr]<br />
* [http://astralaves.tumblr.com/post/104943517264 Opinion on why ZP is shit]<br />
* [http://votesatan.tumblr.com/post/76011587801/short-post-about-why-i-hate-zen-pencils Another]<br />
* [https://criticalhit009.wordpress.com/2014/03/10/why-zen-pencils-is-awful/ and another]<br />
* [http://www.hoodedutilitarian.com/2014/04/art-vs-art-zen-pencils-and-the-critical-imagination/ and yet another]... so many evil trolls!!!<br />
* [http://badwebcomicswikiforum.yuku.com/topic/125/Should-I-do-Zen-Pencils#.VJ6Rs__fwA The Zen Pencils threads] [http://badwebcomicswikiforum.yuku.com/topic/119/Zen-Pencils-gets-called-out#.VJ6R7v_fwA on our forum]</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=The_Ebola_Files&diff=22267The Ebola Files2015-05-06T22:52:09Z<p>DentsAndDings: /* Writing review */</p>
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|'''Original review author:'''<br />
| [[User:oddguy|oddguy]]<br />
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|'''Webcomic name:'''<br />
| [http://www.mangahere.co/manga/the_ebola_files/ The Ebola Files]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Author:'''<br />
| [http://www.YouTube.com/ParkourFlips Jacob Herrick]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Start Date:'''<br />
| Nov 25, 2014 <br />
|-<br />
|'''End Date:'''<br />
| Abruptly stopped updating on Dec 23, 2014<br />
|-<br />
|'''Genre:'''<br />
| Action and unintentional comedy<br />
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|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
| It's fucking insane<br />
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|'''Art:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]] Is there some negative score I can give this?<br />
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|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]] Combine DBZ with a Jason Bourne movie and give everyone AIDS based super powers and you will get T.E.F<br />
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|'''Characters:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]] I don't even know what to say about this<br />
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|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]] Nothing special<br />
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|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]] [[File:Wiki.png|70px]] [[File:Wiki.png|70px]] [[File:Wiki.png|70px]] [[File:Wiki.png|70px]] Perfect fucking 10/10. This isn't just so bad it's good, it's so horrendous that it's fucking amazing.<br />
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==Background==<br />
[[File:Ebola1.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Vince is unphased by the explosions at his feet]]<br />
I am reviewing this comic because one of our readers emailed us and suggested it.<br /><br />
If you are reading this review just after I had published it you probably remember the Ebola scare that was going on couple of months ago. If you are reading it months later then you might vaguely remember it happening, just like SARS, the swine flu, mad cow disease, the chinese rice shortage and whichever other flavor of the months, mass panic we were meant to be terrified by in recent years. If you are reading this years later and didn't watch the news too intently during the week and a half this was treated like it would be the next armageddon then let me fill you in: In late 2014 a few people got ebola, nothing ever came of it and some guy made this really crazy webcomic about it.<br />
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==Downfall==<br />
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This was shit from the start. On [http://www.mangahere.co/manga/the_ebola_files/c001/3.html the third page of the comic] the main hero announced that he created Ebola and that it had already killed millions and on page 5 he does this:<br />
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[[File:Ebola2.jpg|center|600px]]<br />
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==Story and Plot==<br />
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The plots is as follows:<br /><br />
We start with a man in a white suit informing the world that he is the man who created the ebola virus, this is who would become our story's hero. We then go back in time where we are informed that [http://www.mangahere.co/manga/the_ebola_files/c002/2.html he and his friend are expert chemical engineers] (wouldn't you need to be a ''bio''-engineer to create a virus?) and are being hunted by the US military in Australia. When the army catches up to the them (in this case "army" meaning [http://www.mangahere.co/manga/the_ebola_files/c002/4.html a couple of guys in olive green tshirts holding muskets)] they inform them that they........ actually, this will be better with pictures.<br />
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[[File:Ebola3.jpg|center]]<br />
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So they are then taken to a "secret military base" (it's actually a school) and introduced to Dr. Sakura who [http://www.mangahere.co/manga/the_ebola_files/c002/15.html tells them they must create the ebola virus] (doesn't that already exist?) and infect the world's population for no apparent reason. Some months pass and the project is complete. To prove this, Vincent (that's his name) [http://www.mangahere.co/manga/the_ebola_files/c003/2.html dumps the virus into the water supply] and thereby puts into action the plan to "kill japan" by poisoning people in australia.<br />
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But Vince has a devious plan in mind and he had enhanced the virus's power to...<br />
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[[File:Ebola4.jpg|center]]<br />
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After he finishes his explanation he chats a bit with Dr. Sakura who informs him that she created the bird flu and is doing this all for fun. Disgusted by her lack of morals, Vince kicks her into the ebola river and escapes with his friend.<br />
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[[File:Ebola5.jpg|center]]<br />
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On their way out of the building they are stopped by a menacing agent and a fight ensues. Here we are made aware that being a chemist gives people Goku-like powers that manifest themselves in the ability to pull a baseball bat out of thin air and "super human speed" that is represented by Vince creating [http://www.mangahere.co/manga/the_ebola_files/c004/7.html two pale, limp clones of himself] to fight alongside him.<br />
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With their escape successful, Vince and his friend go into hiding in [http://www.mangahere.co/manga/the_ebola_files/c005/3.html a small log cabin that he had somehow built himself.] Here Vince explains that his plan is to '''end all wars by infecting everyone with ebola'''. But their attempts to go unnoticed prove unfruitful when they are found out almost immediately by another agent, leading to another DBZ fight.<br />
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This fight soon escalated (much like the stupidity of this comic) from shooting and throwing baseballs at each other to Vince using "the power of ebola" to fly and create his own version of Goku's spirit ball that has a rather questionable power source.<br />
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[[File:Ebola8.jpg|center|600px]]<br />
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Here I would like to pause this plot synopsis to point out a few questions that bother me about this, namely-<br />
#Why does creating ebola give you super powers?<br />
#Why would the people you infected with ebola "lend" you their power to fight the guy who is trying to kill you?<br />
#How would an ebola based energy weapon help him win the fight? Will it infect his enemy with "Super ebola"?<br />
#How much power do ebola sufferers really have to lend, considering they are pretty weak from slowly dying of ebola?<br />
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So it doesn't really seem like he's "lending" their power are much as taking it whether they like it or not.<br /><br />
Anyway, the fight is over and Vince, [http://www.mangahere.co/manga/the_ebola_files/c009/4.html still laying wounded on the ground, pulls out his cellphone] and announces his displeasure with the rate at which the virus is spreading. His solution? An ebola grenade. One seems to materialize in his hand as if he had willed it into existence and they head out to the nearest train station where they meet...<br />
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[[File:Ebola9.jpg|center|600px]]<br />
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Yep, it's [http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ebola-chan Ebola-chan.] She immediately becomes his girlfriend and they throw the grenade which explodes just like a regular grenade and kills a bunch of people. Next, Ebola-chan takes Vince diving to seek answers for an [http://www.mangahere.co/manga/the_ebola_files/c011/8.html undersea dragon] that [http://www.mangahere.co/manga/the_ebola_files/c012/4.html advises him to go hide for a few years.] Unphased by the fact he just met a talking dragon, Vincent takes his advice and we fast-forward to the beginning of the comic where he is about to make his worldwide broadcast. After [http://www.mangahere.co/manga/the_ebola_files/c014/10.html bringing president Obama to tears by offering to cure ebola in exchange for a presidential blowjob,] he goes outside and gets into another fight with someone that was sent after him by the Illuminati who appears to be Edward Cullen from the Twilight series (or perhaps it's the author's surrogate since this character is named "Jacob").<br /><br />
And then this happens...<br />
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[[File:Ebola10.jpg|center|500px]]<br />
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Besides confirming my suspicion that Vince isn't "lending" people's energy as much as his is taking it by force (I doubt Obama would be in a giving mood in this situation), it also explains that his power bomb takes the lives of millions each time he uses it. The then proceeds to throw about a dozen of them, killing more people than war ever did (not even including all the people he killed by giving them ebola).<br />
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[[File:Extra ebola.jpg|center]]<br />
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With the fight over, Vince plummets to the ground and [http://www.mangahere.co/manga/the_ebola_files/c020/6.html hallucinates himself as a girl in a bikini,] dancing to the sound of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyx6JDQCslE "I'm Sexy and I Know it",] with [http://www.mangahere.co/manga/the_ebola_files/c020/7.html crudely drawn MS Paint poop stains] added by Jacob Herrick to her backside. When he awakes he is picked up by someone in a van and they go on the run from the CIA while [http://www.mangahere.co/manga/the_ebola_files/c024/3.html reenacting the samurai sword scene from the second Matrix movie.] After Vince slices a helicopter in half the comic abruptly ends.<br />
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==Art review==<br />
[[File:911ebola.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Dr. Sakura dropping some truth bombs]]<br />
The art of "The Ebola Files" compliments the story like a mangled corps compliments a train-wreck.<br />
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Since Jacob Herrick can't draw, he decided to use "ComiPo!" instead that let's him pose ugly-looking 3D models and add copious amounts of unnecessary action lines. While some people working within limitations have created pop culture classics (the Hulk being green because grey ink wasn't good, the Simpsons being yellow because skin color made their hair look strange and so on), T.E.F's severely crippling art tool turns the comic from slightly sad to hilariously pathetic.<br />
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Thanks to the use of whatever this is, we get secret bases that [http://www.mangahere.co/manga/the_ebola_files/c002/14.html look like japanese classrooms,] grenades that look like [http://www.mangahere.co/manga/the_ebola_files/c009/7.html comically large crayons] and people having a range of emotions that includes about four and a half facial expressions. When there is a need to show that someone is shocked, lines are added to his face that look like giant hairs, and when someone is supposed to look old, age lines are added to their anime baby-face.<br />
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Still, the best part that is the way that the art hinders the action scenes. Jacob desperately tries to create the illusion of movement, but no amount of aggressively adding action lines will ever make these static dolls appear to be in motion.<br />
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==Writing review== <br />
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Take the broken art and the deranged plot, then top it off with the preposterous script and you will find yourself looking at a poorly rendered, scientist/teenager shooting down CIA SUVs and delivering lines like "Don't worry, I've played GTA" with a straight face (or at least with the same angry face that he responds with to everything). Other gems include Dr. Sakura saying the government did 9/11, Vince telling his friend that his face looks like a toilet and throwing an ebola spreading hand grenade a few feet despite earlier saying it has an infection range of 5 miles.<br /><br />
The humor is pathetic, the dialog is laughable and Jacob [http://www.mangahere.co/manga/the_ebola_files/c009/5.html peppers the comic with a selection of dated memes from 2005.] I could go on giving examples of stupid things said in this comic, but instead of making this part of the review needlessly longer, I'll just show you the best example.<br />
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Vincent ascends into the sky, collects the energy from people he has infected with ebola to fight the guy trying to get him to cure them, explains that by throwing this energy ball he will kill millions of them, and then yells out:<br />
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[[File:Ebola.jpg|center|600px]]<br />
<center>'''I seriously doubt that'''</center><br />
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==Author biography== <br />
[[File:Ebola jacob.png|left|200px]]<br />
I don't know or want to know much about Jacob Herrick. All that has been discovered about him is that he's in his 20s, owns Naruto paraphernalia and has two more webcomics, one called [http://mangafox.me/manga/game_of_ninja/ "Game of Ninja"] which seems to be a cross between [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_Thrones Naruto] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_Thrones GoT,] and a new comic he just started called [http://mangafox.me/manga/the_player_killer_warriors_of_the_wilderness/ "The Player Killer: Warriors of The Wilderness".] He also seems to be pretty delusional, judging by him uploading his comics to "MangaFox" as if it was a professional comic. He's aware to a degree about what a joke his comic had become and would regularly engage in argument with the readers that came to look at his comic only to laugh at it. This includes posting [http://www.mangahere.co/manga/the_ebola_files/c015/11.html pictures of the insults he'd been sent] on one of the comic's pages to snidely thank those who sent them, as well as (allegedly) using the "Tsukkomu" function on one of the sites he uploads the comic to, that allows people to add sarcastic comments like Youtube annotations, to respond to the posts people left there.<br />
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In fact, leaving MST3K style quips on this site became one of Ebola File's biggest draws. They're pretty funny so I might as well show you a few before we continue.<br />
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In any case, at some point the guys over at the CWCki forum found out about this guy and [https://kiwifar.ms/threads/jacob-herrick-ebola-files.6475 made a thread.] Jacob found the thread while googling himself and [https://kiwifar.ms/members/jacobherrick.4575/ joined the forum] to talk to them. He made just six posts, only one of which is worth quoting here.<br />
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{{quote|I don't really know what to say, But feel free to ask me anything and I'll try answer. :)<br /><br />
I read the majority of the posts here but not all of them, So lemme know if I've missed something!<br /><br />
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I found this thread after googling "The Ebola Files" and "Autist Artist: Jacob Herrick", really caught my eye! Lmfao..<br /><br />
I can't believe how many people are saying that I'm Autistic! I would really love to hear why you'd think that..<br /><br />
I'm guessing it has to do with the randomness of "The Ebola Files", how it makes little sense and how I haven't given up on it? Haha.<br /><br />
I do have a bad case of Insomnia, I sleep between 3-4 days a week, sometimes less.<br /><br />
Realistically though that only helps me spend more time on making my Webtoons.<br /><br />
(Could explain why the story sometimes doesn't add-up though..) Lol.<br /><br />
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Is it a troll Manga?<br /><br />
I don't even know how to answer this question.<br /><br />
Originally I planned to make "The Ebola Files" half funny but also half serious. (If that makes sense?)<br /><br />
So that readers wouldn't think that I was trying to compete with professional manga authors/artists,<br /><br />
But could still have a laugh and follow some minor storyline.<br /><br />
However I had no idea about how much attention it would receive and how offended people would claim to be.<br /><br />
Too many people were taking it too seriously and because of that,<br /><br />
I decided to make my comic seem serious, but instead flood it with offensive, immature material.. Kinda just for a laugh. Teehee ^.~<br /><br />
But then I noticed most of my "fans" (I sound like a dick lol), thought it was funny and I found my actual audience.<br /><br />
So as of now - "The Ebola Files" is my own little project. I will not be persuaded by haters that can't accept it for what it is.<br /><br />
I will always try to make the people that do enjoy it, feel satisfied with every new Chapter.<br /><br />
I will try to maintain the story but will always be more inclined to focus on the fact that thousands are reading,<br /><br />
And that gives me the chance to piss off thousands. Who could refuse?<br /><br />
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One thing is for certain - When I decide to finish "The Ebola Files",<br /><br />
The last Chapters will be very unexpectedly offensive, crude and derogatory.<br /><br />
I will definitely be going out with a bang! Lol.<br /><br />
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<br />
I hope this cleared some stuff up for you guys,<br /><br />
I'm sorry if you don't like me but if we met in person I bet it'd be different!<br /><br />
I was bored one day and made a comic series that for some reason got more attention than it deserved.<br /><br />
To give you some idea of my stupidity irl here's my youtube lol: http://www.YouTube.com/ParkourFlips<br /><br />
Should explain my sense of humour to some degree. ^_^<br /><br />
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If you have any other questions please do ask.<br /><br />
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<br />
I have two questions of my own.<br /><br />
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<br />
1. Who is "Dobby" or "Spook"? I read that apparently someone "licensed" my comic or something?<br /><br />
I don't know and don't really care unless it prevents the comics publicity or something like that.<br /><br />
"The Ebola Files" is copyrighted also, and in every single picture my name is hidden amongst graphics from Chapter #1.<br /><br />
Copyright number: ZMOG-X25Q-HL2G-L7FS<br /><br />
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2. Salto are you single, Wanna date bro? }}<br />
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<br />
So he seems like a generally nice guy, however his claims of making this comic intentionally bad once he realized people hate it don't really hold up since it was crazy and stupid from page one.<br />
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==Conclusion==<br />
[[File:Strongebola.png|thumb|right|300px|this comic in a nutshell]]<br />
I don't really want to write a drawn-out conclusion for this thing so I'll get right to the point:<br /><br />
"The Ebola Files" falls under the category of things that are so bad that they're good. I highly recommend reading it if you need a laugh and I hope Jacob either continues it or follows it up with something like "The AIDS Records" or "The Leukemia Documents".<br />
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==Links==<br />
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* [https://www.mangahere.co/manga/the_ebola_files/ The comic]<br />
* [https://www.facebook.com/TheEbolaFiles Its Facebook page]<br />
* [https://kiwifar.ms/threads/jacob-herrick-ebola-files.6475 Jacob's CWCki thread]<br />
* [https://kiwifar.ms/members/jacobherrick.4575/ Jacob's CWCki account]<br />
* [http://www.YouTube.com/ParkourFlips Jacobs Youtube]<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWUe0-e0E9U Video review/dramatic reading of the comic]</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Sonichu&diff=22266Sonichu2015-05-06T22:44:34Z<p>DentsAndDings: /* Writing review */</p>
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<div>{{A Bomb}}<br />
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{{WComic Infobox<br />
|review author = {{oddguy}}<br />
|webcomic name = [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu+Comic+Collection Sonichu]<br />
|author = [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcville/ Christian Weston "Ricardo" Chandler], AKA "Chris-chan", AKA "C.W.C"<br />
|start date = November 24, 2004, was the date he began drawing the cover of issue 0, although it's unclear when he actually began drawing "Sonichu" comics. Probably sometime in High School.<br />
|end date = On hiatus since May 27, 2010, due to trolls ruining his "inspiration", or possibly because making the comic is too much work (he is unemployed and drawing a page takes him an hour).<br />
|genre = "Adventure"<br />
|flaw = Literally everything<br />
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'''Rating Summary'''<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable" style="width:600px"><br />
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|'''Art:'''<br />
|[[File:Sonichu-art-review.jpg|100px]]<br>They say autistic people are supposed to be artistically inclined, but I see no evidence of that here. I could draw better than this in the fourth grade, if not sooner.<br />
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|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:Sonichu-storyline-review.jpg|100px]]<br>Most insane crap you will ever read. And yet, not even remotely entertaining.<br />
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|'''Characters:'''<br />
|[[File:Sonichu-characters-review.png|100px]]<br>All the heroes are Mary-Sue Sonic recolors, all the heroines are objects that can talk and only exist to serve as someone's love interest. All the villains are demonized versions of people the creator knows in real life with their actual motivations replaced with: "they hate autistic people and want to stop Chris from finding love".<br />
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|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Sonichu-misc-details-review.jpg|100px]]<br>I wouldn't even know where to start.<br />
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|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Hurtsoul.jpg|100px]]<br>Never in your life will you find something quite as bad and deranged as this. You have my guarantee.<br />
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==Background==<br />
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[[File:Sonichu.jpg|200px|right]]<br />
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Take [[Ctrl+Alt+Del|Tim Buckley's]] attitude, [[So..._You%27re_a_Cartoonist?|Tom Preston's]] "commitment" to criticism, [[Pastel Defender Heliotrope|JDR's]] insanity, [[Powerpuff Girls Doujinshi|Bleedman's]] love of plagiarism, [[Better Days|Jay Naylor's]] political views, and [[Jack|Dave Hopkins']] art skills. Now multiply all those things by a million and you will have Christian Weston Chandler's ''The Adventures of Sonichu And Rosechu'', or as it's also known, ''Sonichu''. Without a doubt <u>'''THE WORST WEBCOMIC EVER'''</u>. Now, some of you may be thinking, "oh, that's just your opinion," but I assure you, it is a fact. <br />
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Before I even start, I think a few preemptive clarifications and apologies are in order. Firstly, I regret to admit that this will not be a comprehensive review. This is simply because addressing every single flaw in this comic and every single public spectacle caused by its creator is an insurmountable task. Even adding links for everything that ''is'' mentioned in this article to the corresponding page is a bit too much. At the moment "Chris-chan" has one of the longest and most convoluted articles ever written on Encyclopedia Dramatica, and there are two entire wikis dedicated to Christian and his comic. The [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Main_Page "CWCki"] contains over 1,300 articles and grows continuously, and the now debunked but still archived [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Main_Page "CWCpedia"] contains an additional 899 articles. There's also a [http://www.youtube.com/user/Asperchu third] [http://web.archive.org/web/20100330094633/http://www.hsienko.com/asperchu/index.php?title=Main_Page (now deleted)] wiki that dealt solely with [http://asperchu.thecomicseries.com/ Asperchu] and the other numerous ''Sonichu'' parodies that once ran rampant and flooded the net and had another 620 articles. Simply listing everything there is to say about the comic and the man who made it without even going into detail about it would '''still''' result in an article at least twice as long as anything else on BWW. So, I would just like to apologize that, unlike other reviews where we attempt to address everything, with ''Sonichu'', I humbly admit that this can not be done. It is impossible to keep up with everything CWC does, let alone catalog it all in a single page. <br />
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My second apology is that, as you can tell from this intro, this review will run a bit long (and it will be picture-heavy because this stuff is just too funny). Like I explained, although I can never mention everything there is to say about this topic, there is still '''A LOT''' to discuss. I will try to shorten it as much as I can, but this comic deserves a review as long as it gets. And the last thing I would like to say I am sorry for is the untimely fashion in which this review has been presented. A ''Sonichu'' review is '''LONG''' overdue. This thing is the worst webcomic in history. It may be the worst piece of art ever made. It goes beyond having no value or merit to the point that it actually does damage to its readers. Reading this thing may very well make you dumber. I regret a review for it was not made sooner when the comic was more relevant. Its thread has been laying dormant since 2009, and even though I know Chris no longer makes as much of a scene when he is insulted online, I still write this review with an almost perverse glee at the thought that he may discover this review and blow yet another shit fit over it.<br />
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So buckle up, get your puke bucket, and get ready to enter the magical world of ''Sonichu''.<br />
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==Why even review this?==<br />
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[[File:Sonichumedallion.jpg|thumb|200px|left]]<br />
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When this comic was brought up on the BWW forums, one of the questions that arose was, "why bother?" This comic is widely regarded as the worst comic ever made. Everything there is to say about it has already been said. All of its flaws are apparent at first glance, so there is really nothing to review. Furthermore, its creator is autistic, so there's no reason to think any criticism will inspire him to improve, and indeed, it hasn't. So why bother even writing a review for something everyone already knows is bad?<br />
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Except for the last point that I will address later in the "Author Biography" section, I would like to explain why I still went ahead and made a review for this thing.<br />
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It's simple: Because no one has ever reviewed this comic. Everything to say about this comic has been said. However, despite it being the most infamously bad webcomic ever to reach the internet, no noteworthy webcomic review site has ever written an article about it. As a person who chooses to document this part of internet culture, and I am speaking not only for the people who write articles for this website, but anyone who has picked up the gauntlet of webcomic reviews (bad or otherwise), and attempt to fill the void left by John Solomon. It is remiss of us to overlook this comic. Everyone and their dog has already said their piece regarding Chris-chan, yet we, the ones who should have been first to approach this, have ignored this literally for years. Us overlooking ''Sonichu'' would be like a chef refusing to use salt. Not having it reviewed on this website is like composing a list of history's greatest thinkers and leaving out Einstein.<br />
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So I know that I am stating the obvious. I know that I am scratching the bottom of the barrel. I know that there's no need to tell anyone this comic is bad. Still, it needs to have an article on this website. Not because I need to convince anyone that it's bad, but simply because it needs an article.<br />
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==Downfall== <br />
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I would like to simply say that this comic was bad from the very beginning, and there is no comic for which this is more true, but that would be taking the easy way out. To be more precise, there are two instances where the comic's quality takes a nose dive like a drunk Olympic swimmer flying a malfunctioning airplane with one wing missing.<br />
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The first comes around [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_2/Page_1 issue two, episode seven], where the focus shifts from the comic's titular character "Sonichu" to Chris-Chan's Mary-Sue self-insert. From then on, the comic becomes a series of deranged payback stories about people who Christian thinks wronged him (most of whom were just doing their jobs), and desperate pleas for sex by way of ham-handed and obvious additions of girls he was interested in (70% trolls, 30% girls who found him repulsive) into the comic. Not to say that those things are not what the comic has always been about, but once the camera swayed away from Sonichu and onto Chris, it became more and more obscene and self-indulgent.<br />
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The second part where the comic cranks the crazy up to 11 is near the end. As the comic was winding down to its inevitable demise, Chris began to become more and more unhinged as a result of constant trolling, and around [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_10/Page_2 issue ten], it descended into full-on lunacy. The last two chapters focused almost exclusively on Chandler's epic journey where he brutally murders all his tormentors [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/thumb/3/3a/SchuComic10P35.jpg/512px-SchuComic10P35.jpg alongside countless innocent civilians]. Most of the last few chapters read like a poorly drawn propaganda pamphlet advocating an anti-gay genocide, as well as a semi-separate one for internet trolls. I say "semi-separate" because, in Chris' mind, all trolls are homosexuals and, therefore, evil (I'm not making this up).<br />
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In other words, this comic begins at a lower starting point than any other and continues to deteriorate in congruence with its author's mental health.<br />
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==Story and Plot==<br />
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[[File:RainbowChris.jpg|thumb|250px|right]]<br />
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This story is the most deranged thing you will ever read. The most amazing thing about it is that there actually is any plot at all. Of course, it does not make a single bit of sense and has so many plot holes that you could paint it yellow and call it SpongeBob, but the fact that there is actually some kind of continuity between chapters is a shock in itself that I could barely recover from. There's some kind of prophecy, people trying to get their hands on <strike>Sonichu's balls<strike> the "Sonichu Balls", some characters disappear and cannot rejoin the plot until they are saved from wherever they are stuck, and everything winds down to a "climactic" final battle where Chris and Sonichu finally get the balls, evolve into their ultimate forms, and go fight all their enemies that have joined into one group to destroy CWCville. The fact Chris is able to remember plot points from past episodes is something I ''still'' can't get over.<br />
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Here is a short summary of as of the story that was relevant to the plot and did not veer off into a psychotic tangent:<br />
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"Sonichu" is about a fictional city (whether Chris realizes this place is not real is actually still up for debate) called CWCville (pronounced "Quickville" somehow...) and founded by Chris-chan's father (who named it after his son who he had not yet conceived) where Chris is the mayor (because that position is handed from father to son with no need for an election). When Sonic the Hedgehog fights a monster on the outskirts of town, he crashes into a Pikachu and it becomes a totally new and "original" character called "Sonichu". This also somehow makes Chris his father. The crash also creates a magical rainbow that sends out eggs all over Virginia, the moon, and the past for some reason, that hatch more <strike>Sonic recolors</strike> original characters.<br />
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That is the set up. The plot is more about Chris himself. It follows his romantic misadventures with girls he knows in real life but whom are only interested in him in the comic and avoid him in real life, and his dealing with pretty much anyone who has ever caused him any kind of perceived injustice. This includes a shop owner who banned him from his store for harassing black children and pretending they stole from him, security guards who threw him out of a number of shops and malls for soliciting sex and harassing young girls, an old school dean who kicked him out of school for soliciting sex, ALL MEN EVER for making it hard for him to find a girlfriend, internet trolls, all homosexuals, all asexuals, and anyone else he finds guilty for his own misfortune and mistakes. In the comic, his actions are portrayed in a far more heroic manner. In ''Sonichu'', all these people are after Chris because they don't want him to lose his virginity, or just hate autistics, and all have magical super powers, as does Chris. Every conflict devolves into a massive superhero fight in which Chris wins and deals out disproportionately cruel punishments to anyone who stands in his way. You know, the way he never could in real life.<br />
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The setting of "CWCvile" is even more ridiculous. [http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sonichu Know Your Meme] describes it as a totalitarian communist state, while [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Webcomic/Sonichu?from=Main.Sonichu TV Tropes] says it's more along the lines of an Orwellian nightmare. I interpret it as a crumbling pseudo-religious dictatorship. If you look, you will see that all the elements are there: a megalomaniacal leader that has inherited his power from his father and has passed on all his administrative duties to his employees (his secretary in the comic does all the work), set up his office at the top of the mall which he cannot enter due to rebel forces (he literally can't get into his own office in his own comic), and is backed by his squad of super powered goons who are, by his decree, above the law and may slaughter all his opponents. There is only one [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/KCWC government-sponsored radio station] that plays 24/7 pro-Chris propaganda, all of Chris' opposition are demonized in the press, and in the comic itself, and are either killed or executed after mock trials. All citizens are constantly monitored by the secret police [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Magi-Chan (Magi-Chan)] in all aspects, including sexual activity (gay sex is not allowed in CWCville), and all tobacco and alcohol is forbidden.<br />
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All of this is just the beginning. I wrote three paragraphs without even getting into any of the actual plot points. Like Chris' search for a "boyfriend-free girl", [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/0/01/SchuComic10P09.jpg God and Jesus (or "GodJesus" as Chris once called them) descending from the heavens to tell some girl Chris hardly knew she should be his girlfriend], [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Crystal_Weston_Chandler_%28sister%29 Chris making himself an imaginary twin sister], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_2/Page_2 CHRIS GETTING MAGICAL SONICHU SUPER POWERS FROM HIS NATIVE AMERICAN ANCESTORS], etc.<br />
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You want more crazy shit? Read the comic. Or don't.<br />
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... Yeah, don't.<br />
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==Art review==<br />
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[[File:GoKickHisAss.jpg|thumb|500px|center]]<br />
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The art looks like Chris drew it without using his hands. He was once quoted saying that it takes him an hour to make one page, and he uses pencils, sharpies, and crayons. In a normal comic, I would have to pick and choose what is the best panel to use for me to showcase the flaws in the art, but in this one, I don't even know where to start. I am just going to pick a page at random.<br />
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Let's see... issue 9, page 82...<br />
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[[File:SchuComic9P81.jpg|thumb|400px|center|<center>Oh my! It's a doozy!</center>]]<br />
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In this one, the guy in the upper left corner is [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Liquid Ian Brandon Anderson], which in real life was the name trolls called the real Chris when someone else impersonated him for a while, despite not looking anything like him. This was still more than enough to make Chris rage. In the comic, Ian has just been murdered by Sonichu, and is being taken to Hell by devil trolls as punishment for not being nice to Chris, after which Sonichu is confronted by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Eggman Dr. Ivo Robotnik], [http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/Giovanni Giovanni from Pokémon], and his son, who are holding Rosechu hostage with the help of a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decepticon Decepticon].<br />
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[[File:best_mall.jpg|thumb|350px|right|<center>''BEST FUCKING MALL '''EVER!!!!'''''</center>]]<br />
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But enough about what's going on and onto the art. What is there to say? You have eyes, don't you? You see it. None of the characters look like who they are supposed to be, nothing is consistent, the background has a habit of disappearing without explanation (as well as characters' entire bodies whenever Chris gets too lazy, leaving them with nothing but a floating head), and Eggman's nose looks like a penis. The art fits the story like a shit encrusted glove. If you pay attention, you will also notice that "Rosechu" is a dead ringer for Amy Rose. [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/7/72/E1p35.jpg At one point in the comic, they meet and it is impossible to tell who is who.]<br />
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Oh, and did you know that Chris also has a degree in [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/CADD "Computer-Aided Drafting and Design"]? What have you done with ''your'' life?! But spending six years getting this degree (it was a two year course) still did not seem to help him at all. Not even a fully sentient super computer from the future like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_9000 HAL 9000] could help Chris with his drafting and design. Even more hilariously, whenever someone makes a parody of his comic, he criticizes it on the quality of its art, claiming it is not as good as his.<br />
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==Writing review== <br />
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[[File:Thw world.jpg|thumb|250px|left|<center>"''Go Magi! Go out into '''thw''' world!''"</center>]]<br />
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There is a typo on the very first page. "Our story begins in a open field five '''''mies''''' from the city of Station Square" and all text is written in ALL CAPS Comic Sans. That's not enough? I think that says it all. <br />
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Fine. Read on. <br />
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First, the characters. I grow tired of how often I have to say this but: there are no characters in ''Sonichu'', not really. I read somewhere that ''Sonichu'' has 136 characters, yet not a single one of them has a personality. They are all a bunch of identical Sonic recolor Mary-Sues, with their leader "Sonichu" being the penultimate Mary-Sue. He is second only to Chris-chan himself, who in the comic possesses all the powers of all his characters (making them obsolete), alongside his own powers, which only grow stronger when he transforms into "Chris-Chan Sonichu" and then again at some point into "Colossus Sonichu" which literally gives him unlimited godlike powers that allow him to warp reality as he sees fit and [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/f/f9/SchuComic10P61.jpg causes the cast to momentarily consider worshiping him as if he was a god]. He declines this offer (well, he writes the story so actually he made that offer to himself) although it seems pretty obvious that he thinks his characters (again, there is a possibility he thinks they are real) <del>should</del> worship him, and only declines because it may be blasphemous. Yes, Chris is very religious despite not understanding the Bible at all, and possibly not fully understanding who Jesus even is. But getting back to the point, the irony in this story is amazing because it actually expects us to root for Chris. In most Mary-Sue comics, the protagonist is impossibly virtuous while the villains are laughably evil. And Chris must think that this is also the case with his own comic (not understanding that even this would be very flawed writing), but in reality the comic shows him going around committing all kinds of atrocities like killing, maiming, and attempting to break up relationships for his own selfish reasons, and the villains seem like heroes trying to stop him.<br />
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[[File:Mach punch.jpg|thumb|250px|right|<center>"''Sonichu <del>punches</del> <b>MACH PUNCHES</b> an old lady''"</center>]]<br />
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The comic is an insane revenge fantasy to end all insane revenge fantasies. What's more, this is all only compounded by the fact it makes no goddamn sense! Chris poorly attempts to present his horrible actions favorably by morphing them into even more horrible ones, and all the while confusing the audience further by hinting, nay, ''screaming'' at them that he is the hero of this story. Mix that with the fact this comic follows no logic and you get something so nonsensical that it makes your eyes cross (time travel arcs and [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Retcon retcons] don't help either) and the result is a mix of unintentionally hilarious and mindbogglingly stupid.<br />
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Going into detail about every kind of flaw this comic's writing has would take two eternities. So instead I give you<br />
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'''<u>ODDGUY'S TOP 15 MOST INSANE MOMENTS IN ''SONICHU''.</u>'''<br />
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'''<u>15. The "Anchuent" Prophesy.</u>'''<br />
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Some of you may wonder where Chris gets his super powers in the comic. Surprisingly, this is actually explained. Unsurprisingly, the explanation is retarded. In the comic he comes across a cave guarded by... some guy... who tells him that he is the chosen one from the <strike>ancient</strike> '''Anchuent''' prophecy foretold by the Cherokee Indians, and gives him his magic Sonichu medallion (that Chris wears in real life... ALL THE TIME!) that allows him to transform into "Chris-Chan Sonichu". But it doesn't end there; Chris' Native American ancestor also gives power to his wife's descendant, who just happens to be some childhood friend of Chris, who has been avoiding him for years after she grew up and he remained at the mental age he was when they met each other in preschool. And finally, he also gives powers to the future relative of his mortal enemy from the opposing Native American clan. Who were the Cherokee's historical rivals? Why, the "Wasabi Clan" of course! And who is their leader's living next of kin? That girl's boyfriend, against whom Chris holds a grudge for letting her sit on his lap in front of him...<br />
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In the comic the girl fights her evil boyfriend and punishes him for hurting Chris' feelings. In reality, she has long ago cut all connections from Chris for being creepy and obsessive about her (probably only because he thought she might eventually sleep with him) and didn't give a shit about his feelings.<br />
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'''<u>14. Wedding Bust.</u>'''<br />
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This saga continued when Chris found out this girl is getting married. He drew a comic in which her old boyfriend crashes the wedding and attempts to kidnap her, but is then defeated by Chris using ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yu-Gi-Oh! Yu-Gi-Oh!]'' cards and returned to her husband, who is inexplicably a ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' monster.<br />
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In reality, Chris was not invited to the wedding, and the guy who in the comic attempts to kidnap her had long since forgotten about some girl he briefly dated in high school and couldn't care less about her upcoming wedding. The one who didn't forget about her was Chris. The one who couldn't let her go despite her never reciprocating his feelings was Chris. And the one she would have had to have been saved from, had he attended the wedding, is once again Chris.<br />
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'''<u>13. Sweet, Pure Angelica.</u>'''<br />
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One of the comic's endless supply of Sonic recolors is "Angelica". Left at the doorstep of a monastery and raised by nuns, she gets her flying powers directly from God, for which she shows her gratitude by [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/6/65/SchuComic9P32.jpg having sex in the church with a Pokemon.]<br />
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[[File:Thatdirtywhore.jpg|thumb|500px|center|<center>''That dirty whore.''</center>]]<br />
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'''<u>12. The Brown Note.</u>'''<br />
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Chris' arch-nemesis is the polar opposite of himself. Well, actually, for that to be true, he would have to be intelligent, charming and attractive. In actuality he is the antithesis of what Chris ''thinks'' of himself. In other words: An evil gay guy who likes Xbox. And in the same way Chris has his ultimate attack, the "Curse-ye-ha-me-ha", which inflicts its victim with unreasonably bad luck (like causing the mall guard that tossed Chris out to have his wife leave him and take the house and kids), and which Chris has attempted to use on people in real life on several occasions, so does his enemy have an ultimate attack: The "Qee-fee-mea-mo-bo-bo", which unlike the "Curse-ye-ha-me-ha", doesn't delve out bad luck, but rather "humiliation". How does this work? When he attempted to destroy Chris with it, it was deflected back onto him, causing him to poop and piss his pants.<br />
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[[File:Shitsself.jpg|thumb|250px|center|<center>''Yes, make him shit himself. That will stop his army of giant robots.''</center>]]<br />
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'''<u>11. The Return Of "Pattie".</u>'''<br />
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In one of the only displays of honest emotion not motivated by the prospect of personal gain in the comic, and maybe all of Chris' life, Chris revives his recently-deceased dog "Pattie" and sends her off to live in CWCville. Their heartfelt goodbye stops just short of them making out.<br />
<br />
[[File:Pattiekiss.jpg|thumb|250px|center|<center>''JEFF! OH MY GOD!''</center>]]<br />
<br />
'''<u>10. Chris Beats An Elderly Woman And Then Harasses A Handicapped Person... Oops, Wait, That's The Same Lady.</u>'''<br />
<br />
Chris finally confronts his archnemesis, Mary Lee Walsh, in a climactic final battle. During said battle, she explains her motivation for dedicating her life to preventing Chris from getting laid is that she is [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P74.jpg an old, ugly hag who no one could ever love] (remember, this is a real person.) Then Chris and Sonichu beat her, [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P77.jpg paralyze her], and send the 60 year old handicapped woman to a maximum security prison.<br />
<br />
[[File:Storytime.jpg|thumb|500px|center|<center>''Chris is so touched by her heartbreaking story that he <strike>forgives her for all her transgressions against him and lets her go</strike> beats the crap out of her.''</center>]]<br />
<br />
'''<u>9. Sexy Time With Shadow.</u>'''<br />
<br />
An evil, shape-shifting, hermaphrodite Rosechu (the female counterpart of the Sonichu breed) sets out to destroy Chris and co. How does she plan to do this? By transforming into each of the characters' significant others (everyone in "Sonichu" MUST have a girlfriend due to CWC's own fixation on finding one) and sleeping with them for no good reason. But her plan goes awry when she is impersonating Blachu to have gay sex with Bubbles-Rosechu and cannot replicate his electric attack which [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic8P90.jpg he uses on her for her sexual pleasure]... Oh, by the way, according to Chris, this is a children's comic.<br />
<br />
'''<u>8. Chris Takes A Stand For Women's Rights... But Mostly For Himself...</u>'''<br />
<br />
In one particularly insane saga, the characters discover that they are being drawn as either gay or pre-op transgenders on 4Chan. The stupidity escalates when Rosechu posts naked pictures of herself on 4Chan ("4Cents-garbage" as it is named in the comic) to prove she is "all woman" in what has to be the most un-arousing case of fanservice in the history of webcomics, only to have a penis photoshopped onto her on the site. She then goes to confront the the owner of 4Chan. At this point it becomes evident that Chris does not realize that 4Chan and Encyclopedia Dramatica are not the same site, and that the person who wrote the article about him does not own either one. They go to the top of the 4Chan tower (haha... m00t wishes), where Satan himself is an employee, and after [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/3/38/SchuComic8P35.jpg giving a long speech about forgiveness], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic8P30.jpg implying that not trolling Chris is the will of God himself], she takes all her clothes off and beats him unconscious by shoving her vagina in his face.<br />
<br />
[[File:Facerape.jpg|thumb|250px|center|<center>''Yes! Get naked and stick your vagina in his face! That will teach him not to objectify women!''</center>]]<br />
<br />
<u>Bonus Points:</u><br />
* This is all meant to be some kind of stand for women's lib.<br />
* The issue also includes detailed diagrams of the Sonichu reproductive system and explanation of their sexual habits.<br />
<br />
'''<u>7. The End Of 4Chan.org</u>'''<br />
<br />
Chris sets out to destroy the 4Chan tower by rocking out (seriously), which is even more hilarious because he does so with a [http://i.imgur.com/xppsE.jpg "Guitar Hero" Wii-mote]. Two of the main trolls escape, one of whom denounces trolling because he is straight (since trolling and heterosexuality are mutually exclusive), and leaves Clyde Cash and Jack, two of Chris' trolls, to their fate. The two choose to commit suicide rather than face the wrath of Chris (again, I'm serious). So the two hold hands and leap to their death, in a genuinely touching display that ironically could easily be used for advocating gay rights against persecution.<br />
<br />
[[File:Votefordeath.jpg|thumb|350px|center|<center>''I swear, I actually choked up a bit when reading this part.''</center>]]<br />
<br />
<u>Bonus Points:</u><br />
* The building's collapse kills hundreds of innocent people whose only crime was working there. (I'm not speculating; [http://i.imgur.com/KAfze.jpg Chris explains this.])<br />
<br />
'''<u>6. Black Street.</u>'''<br />
<br />
[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_10/Page_71 Sonichu meets a sick, black, homeless, drug-addicted, Jamaican war veteran living in a dumpster on the street.]<br />
[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P72.jpg Sonichu calls the police.]<br />
<br />
'''<u>5. Animal Abuse? Child Abuse? You Decide.</u>'''<br />
<br />
[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic3P8.jpg An egg, carrying yet another Sonic ripoff, lands in a dojo run by an Excel Saga ripoff, and hatches.] The dojo owner's daughter is enraged by the infant's insolence of daring to be born in her father's presence, and challenges the literally seconds-old newborn to a fight. She proceeds to brutally rip off the baby's tail, at which point he evolves into an offensive, Asian racial stereotype version of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knuckles_the_Echidna Knuckles], and uses his spiked fist to punch her into outer space. The dojo owner [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic3P9.jpg rewards him for murdering his daughter by making him his student.]<br />
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'''<u>4. Special School Massacre.</u>'''<br />
<br />
The comic's main villain, an old school dean who once expelled Chris for good reason, is, in the comic, an evil witch who uses a brain-control ray to transform the inhabitants of CWCville into her slaves (read: mall guards). Chris explains to the audience that this ray only works on the [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic4P55.jpg "slow-in-mind"]. Hilarity ensues when you realize this means that whenever Sonichu and friends fight Mary Lee's minions, they are actually beating through wave after wave of the mentally handicapped.<br />
<br />
[[File:Punchythehero.jpg|thumb|300px|center|<center>''<strike>Knuckles</strike> um, I mean '''Punchy''' CWCville's hero, beating up a group of helpless retards.''</center>]]<br />
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<u>Bonus Points:</u><br />
* Since Chris is autistic, he himself should be susceptible to the ray's power. <br />
<br />
'''<u>3. Alec's Rape Extravaganza!</u>'''<br />
<br />
Christian transforms into his most Mary-Sueist of Mary-Sue versions, and goes off to fight Alec Benson Leary (one of the creators of the [http://asperchu.thecomicseries.com/ "Asperchu"] parody) and save his spoofs of the Sonichu characters from a fate worse than death. I.E: having Asperger's Syndrome (which Chris hates... long story) with which Alec had "infected" them, as if it is some kind of venereal disease. Afterwards he saves an additional 4 ripoff characters of his own making, under the claim that Alec has been keeping them in his basement and raping them (in the case of one of them, to the point of death.)<br />
<br />
'''<u>2. The "Simonchu" Fiasco.</u>'''<br />
<br />
Chris had a lot of fights with trolls, but this is the one I personally found most amusing in its show of irony and hypocrisy on Chris' part.<br />
The story in short is that Chris [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Evan stole a troll fan character], [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Simonla_Rosechu changed its gender], and refused to remove it from the comic. First because denying one of his characters of its girlfriend would be cruel, and then because he "could have come up with it himself" even though he didn't. He continued to refuse until the trolls began to hold CWCpedia hostage (which he still doesn't realize was intended to mock him) at which point he agreed to kill off the character, which he did [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P82.jpg with an exploding toilet.] Only to have it immediately replaced by her identical clone daughter, who then executes her original creator after he is found guilty in a mock trial of not allowing Chris to steal his character and sentenced to death for it. The two week old girl [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P92.jpg drills off his arms and legs, then uses a drill to castrate him, and finally electrocutes him to death] together with her father.<br />
<br />
<u>Bonus points:</u><br />
* He is also found guilty of trying to assassinate Chris by dropping a massive, hanging TV screen Chris was using to broadcast a speech. He aimed to do this by hanging off the ceiling ''"Mission Impossible"'' style, and [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P80.jpg cutting the steel chains with a pair of household scissors.]<br />
* The chapter alternates in between the troll's unfair trial and Chris' mayoral speech in which he apologizes to them for his own wrongdoings. So we get to see Chris telling this person he is sorry for stealing his character, while he is simultaneously executing him for it.<br />
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{| style="margin: 1em auto 1em auto; color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|+<b>The "Simonchu" Saga In A Nutshell.</b><br />
|-<br />
|<center>'''Evan's brilliant plan'''</center><br />
|-<br />
|<center>[[File:Evans plan.jpg|center]]</center><br />
|-<br />
|<center>'''The plaintiff's initials being inscribed on the judge's stand is always a good sign you are about to have a fair trial'''</center><br />
|-<br />
|[[File:Cwc judge.jpg|center]]<br />
|-<br />
|<center>'''GUILTY X4!!!!'''</center><br />
|-<br />
|[[File:Guilty 4x.jpg|center]]<br />
|-<br />
|<center>'''All good reasons to kill a bunch of guys'''</center><br />
|-<br />
|[[File:Reasons to kill.jpg|center]]<br />
|-<br />
|<center>'''THE END'''</center><br />
|}<br />
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'''<u>1. I AM NOT HOMOPHOBIC!!! NOW WATCH ME KILL ALL THESE GAY PEOPLE!!!</u>'''<br />
<br />
Chris travels to the future to find out that his blood is the cure for homosexuality (stop laughing, there's more). He fight his nemesis, who is the opposite of himself, and therefore ultra-super-gay and also evil, and injects him with his blood, <strike>giving him AIDS<strike> curing him of gayness. Then he floods the world's water supply with <strike>the cure<strike> his blood and rids the world of homos.<br />
<br />
<u>Bonus points:</u><br />
* He cures gays in the present with a cure he got from the future, thereby destroying the thing for which the cure was created before it was made and creating a time paradox.<br />
* He somehow fills 50 Mack trucks with his own blood.<br />
* Despite curing all the homos (and asexuals, who he also hates for some reason) in a later chapter gays still exists and are being monitored by Chris and thrown in jail for being gay.<br />
* Since a vaccine is made out of a weakened or dead version of the virus, for Chris' blood to be the cure for gayness he would have to be the most gay person to have ever lived.<br />
* The comic ends with CWC commemorating his victory over trolls and gays (who are one and the same) by creating a new holiday: "Christian Love Day". Which ironically celebrates mass murder and genocide.<br />
<br />
==Author Biography== <br />
[[File:sooo_offended.jpg|thumb|400px|center|<center>''Chris' reaction to anything written about him on the internet.''</center>]]<br />
<br />
What can I say about Chris Chan that has not already been said about terminal cancer? Well, for one thing, be it by miraculous recovery or the sweet release of death, the misery caused by cancer ends at some point. Whereas Christian's antics seem like they intend to continue for the rest of eternity. In October 2011 he was arrested for [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/28_October_2011 his second attempt at vehicular homicide] [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Michael_Snyder against a video game shop owner who had banned him from the store three years beforehand, and who he (wrongly) believes is Jewish.] In February 2012 he lost his virginity at the age of 30 after years of stalking and sexually harassing girls at the local mall (I have been told by a credible source that this was done with the help of a prostitute.) His behavior is so demented that things he has done that would have made any normal person a laughingstock for the rest of his life almost flew under the radar when he did it. "Encyclopedia Dramatica" spent years documenting his antics until they finally just gave up. His exploits also include [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Twin_Falling_Towers denigrating the memory of 9/11 to mock a troll], [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Blackface shooting a youtube video in blackface,] [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Fanta#Fanta:_Semen_Flavor drinking his own semen], cheating at a contest intended for children, racism, misogyny, anti-Semitism, death threats, homophobia, crossdressing, sexual harassment, attempt at murder, and the list goes on and on (excuse me but I just can't add links anymore). At the moment he holds the place for second most hated webcomic artist ever, second only to Buckley, because everyone knows he has autism, whereas with Buckley, we can only assume.<br />
<br />
This brings me to the main part of this section: His autism.<br />
<br />
Many people think that all criticism of Christian is cruel due to his condition, and in part I agree. But it's important to remember he has mild autism. Leaked medical documents say that there isn't really that much wrong with him... Or at least there shouldn't be. So how do I explain all of this? Well, people often forget that those inflicted with these kinds of conditions are not identical clones that step off a factory conveyor belt. They each have their own personalities, and Christian's is the worst. His parents aren't helpful in that aspect, either. Let me put it this way: Have you ever seen the movie ''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117666/ "Sling Blade"]''? Well, you should have. Do you remember the scene where Walter tells the psychiatrist how his parents kept him in the shed because "they didn't want him in the house with the rest of 'em"? This is sort of the same. Once they understood their child has autism, Bob and Barbara Chandler abandoned all expectations of him and resolved to just buy him whatever he wants and do whatever he wants as long as it will keep him out of their hair and thereby turning him into the selfish, ego-driven manchild that he is today. What I'm saying is this: People with autism can live normal lives. They can get jobs, get married, have kids. I am not saying it's easy, but with dedication and attention from the people around them, they can grow to be contributing members of society. Other autistics HATE Chris-chan. Many have made videos begging people not to get the wrong idea about them because of what Chris does. I honestly believe that had he not been born that way he may not have been so susceptible to being fooled by trolls or so quick to humiliate himself, but he would have still been the same awful person.<br />
<br />
I feel sorry for Chris. I understand he can't control part of what he does, but that can't be his excuse for everything.<br />
<br />
==Conclusion==<br />
<br />
Do not read this comic.<br />
<br />
Unless you are doing it purely for the spectacle of it you have nothing to gain from it. In any other comic, I would tell people to check it out only so you could learn what mistakes you should avoid. But in this case there is no point. There is not a single mistake here that you could not sidestep by using the most basic of common sense. What could you possibly learn from this? Don't draw yourself murdering people you dislike with super powers? Don't upload drawings of yourself having sex with a girl you are romantically pursuing onto troll sites? Don't use your real name when buying anal beads online? I think you can all figure these things on your own.<br />
<br />
This comic tops the chart in every criteria this website uses to gauge the value of its review subjects. The worst art, most awful writing, most insane plot, biggest Mary-Sue characters ever, craziest and most insufferable author...<br />
<br />
In short:<br />
This truly is the worst comic ever made. Yes, even worse than [[Billy the Heretic]], atrocious as ''that'' was.<br />
<br />
==Massive Chris-Chan Link Dump:==<br />
<br />
[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu_Comic_Collection Archive Of The Comic Itself.]<br />
<br />
[["Sonichu Finale" Interview|Our Interview with Sonichu Finale's artist Harry Manzinni.]]<br />
<br />
<br />
Chris has about a million other, dead accounts on every website imaginable. I will not be adding links to them here. Find them on your own.<br />
<br />
'''<u>Articles.</u>'''<br />
<br />
* [http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sonichu Know Your Meme "Sonichu" Article.]<br />
* [http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/chris-chancwcchristian-weston-chandler Know Your Meme "Chris-Chan" Article.]<br />
* [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Webcomic/Sonichu?from=Main.Sonichu TV Tropes "Sonichu" Article.]<br />
* [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/CreatorBreakdown/Webcomics Mentioned in TV Tropes article about webcomic artists who had a massive meltdown.]<br />
* [http://ohinternet.com/Chris-chan Ohi Article on "Chris-Chan".]<br />
* [http://ohinternet.com/Sonichu Ohi Article On "Sonichu".]<br />
* [http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Christian_Weston_Chandler Uncyclopedia CWC article.]<br />
* [http://www.cracked.com/funny-3956-chris-chan/ Cracked Chris-chan article.]<br />
* [http://heavy.com/comedy/2010/07/the-20-worst-internet-losers/4/ Chris ranks #1 in article of top 20 internet losers.]<br />
<br />
'''<u>Parodies.</u>'''<br />
<br />
* [http://asperchu.thecomicseries.com/ "Asperchu".] - Ironically, this is actually one of the best comics I have read.<br />
* [http://hcandersen.deviantart.com/ "Sonichu Unleashed".] - A few of the creators of "Asperchu" are trying to get to comic going again.<br />
* [http://gabmonteiro9389.deviantart.com/gallery/24330410 "Sonichu Remake".] - An actually GOOD artists redraws "Sonichu".<br />
* [http://sonichufinale.canalblog.com/ "Sonichu: Finally".] - Yet another parody. The rest of it is [http://harrymanzinni.deviantart.com/gallery/ here].<br />
:: We also have [["Sonichu Finale" Interview|an interview with the artist]].<br />
* [http://depositfiles.com/files/k59r18li3 "Moon Pals".] - Thought to have been lost but one of us found a downloadable archive.<br />
* [http://web.archive.org/web/20091212082041/http://sonichuisgay.thecomicseries.com/comics/1/ An archived version of "Sonichu is Gay".] - A spin-off of asperchu.<br />
* [http://web.archive.org/web/20090923011746/http://sonichu.thecomicseries.com/ An archived version of "Sonichu is Dead".] - Another spin-off of asperchu.<br />
* [http://imgur.com/fWC2lw3,1B7ulIl,GIIC5w1,eu84mkL,5eeYSx1,aNUzCR8,7eoGNbq,53ilnRW,i6xiNk6,3FirXzm,lrcSkRr,oQHqVSK,CYo0pA6,3ZTtGWC Temporarily here]<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPeAkOtu2Oo A video of the seven strips of "Capering Berries".] - A parody mocking the Simonchu fiasco.<br />
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<br />
<s>All other parody works are not worth mentioning. I was also able to contact the creator of "Simonchu". He did not want to comment, but he did say that he did not keep any copies of it or "Moon Pals" (another parody) and doesn't know if anyone has.</s><br />
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'''<u>More Funny Pictures From The Comic I Couldn't Figure Out How To Work Into The Review.</u>'''<br />
<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/zBtl8.jpg Sonichu is Chris' only friend.] - )':<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/DQqHb.jpg I don't know why.] - But this is just hilarious to me.<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/lsxjt.jpg This just looks like he's throwing urine at some guy.]<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/HszYC.jpg Almost twincest.] - So this is where Naylor got this from...<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/lir2r.jpg Chris transforms into hideous mutant.] - Or at least more so than usual...<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/pCYdw.jpg Ignore all the hilariously ironic text.] - And focus instead on the fact that Rosechu is eating a wrench.<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/iUMEV.jpg Porno?] - Rosechu says: [http://lovablelabelsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/fonz1.jpg "AYEEE!!!"]<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/FQ1ta.jpg 1] [http://i.imgur.com/x6nEM.jpg 2],[http://i.imgur.com/DPvkz.jpg 3],[http://i.imgur.com/zbH3v.jpg 4],[http://i.imgur.com/GxexT.jpg 5] - Pictures where Chris equates either himself or Sonichu to god, or implies that fulfilling his desires is the lords will.<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/mZkHy.jpg 1],[http://i.imgur.com/13oQU.jpg 2] - Pictures where Chris implies that fulfilling his will is the American way... So strange how often those things seem to coincide.<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/O5uJo.jpg 1],[http://i.imgur.com/1f0UQ.jpg 2],[http://i.imgur.com/ipxai.jpg 3] - Sonichu's anti gay hate speeches and [http://i.imgur.com/MRjqO.jpg apology]. Followed by Chris exterminating all homosexuals.<br />
<br />
'''<u>Other.</u>'''<br />
<br />
* [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Main_Page "CWCki".] - A wiki about Chris.<br />
* [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Main_Page Archived Version Of "CWCpedia".] - The other wiki about Chris.<br />
* [http://web.archive.org/web/20100330094633/http://www.hsienko.com/asperchu/index.php?title=Main_Page Asperpedia.] - Can only be seen using Web Archive anymore.<br />
* [http://annotatedsonichu.tumblr.com/ "Sonichu" Mock Tumblr.]<br />
* [http://fuckwhychrischan.tumblr.com/ Other "Sonichu" Tumblr.]<br />
* [http://twitter.com/Sonichu1 "Sonichu" twitter.]<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/user/CWCAnimatedLibrary "Sonichu" - The Animated Series.]<br />
* <strike>"Sonichu" Audiobooks. Deleted days before I finished this review.</strike> [http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL12A55E9C82971031&feature=plcp&fb_source=message Someone made a backup!]<br />
* [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/A_Girl_Who_Brought_Down_the_World#The_original_text "A Girl Who Brought Down The World".] - An entire book made by the same person who made the audiobooks and sent to Chris. He never read it, gave it to his minister for Christmas, asked the girl who made it to pay the mailing fees, and finally sent her YouTube death threats.<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsDdXHQbXsc Webcomic Relief on YouTube] also has a review of ''Sonichu''.<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdGujEC2Xx8 Webcomic Relief on YouTube] has more to say about it.<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQEs2BcbcM And more...]<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8v1J8ZZf_w and more...]<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkCpdU3EYe4 and more...]<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlMlL9zXwag and more...]<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxTaIO1PINw and more...]<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23qcd14SpT8 and more...but I think I'll stop it here.]<br />
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[[Category:Webcomics]]</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Sonichu&diff=19158Sonichu2015-02-03T07:42:59Z<p>DentsAndDings: </p>
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{{WComic Infobox<br />
|review author = {{oddguy}}<br />
|webcomic name = [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu+Comic+Collection Sonichu]<br />
|author = [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcville/ Christian Weston "Ricardo" Chandler], AKA "Chris-chan", AKA "C.W.C"<br />
|start date = November 24, 2004, was the date he began drawing the cover of issue 0, although it's unclear when he actually began drawing "Sonichu" comics. Probably sometime in High School.<br />
|end date = On hiatus since May 27, 2010, due to trolls ruining his "inspiration", or possibly because making the comic is too much work (he is unemployed and drawing a page takes him an hour).<br />
|genre = "Adventure"<br />
|flaw = Literally everything<br />
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'''Rating Summary'''<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable" style="width:600px"><br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Art:'''<br />
|[[File:Sonichu-art-review.jpg|100px]]<br>They say autistic people are supposed to be artistically inclined, but I see no evidence of that here. I could draw better than this in the fourth grade, if not sooner.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:Sonichu-storyline-review.jpg|100px]]<br>Most insane crap you will ever read. And yet, not even remotely entertaining.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Characters:'''<br />
|[[File:Sonichu-characters-review.png|100px]]<br>All the heroes are Mary-Sue Sonic recolors, all the heroines are objects that can talk and only exist to serve as someone's love interest. All the villains are demonized versions of people the creator knows in real life with their actual motivations replaced with: "they hate autistic people and want to stop Chris from finding love".<br />
|-<br />
|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Sonichu-misc-details-review.jpg|100px]]<br>I wouldn't even know where to start.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Hurtsoul.jpg|100px]]<br>Never in your life will you find something quite as bad and deranged as this. You have my guarantee.<br />
|}<br />
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==Background==<br />
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Take [[Ctrl+Alt+Del|Tim Buckley's]] attitude, [[So..._You%27re_a_Cartoonist?|Tom Preston's]] "commitment" to criticism, [[Pastel Defender Heliotrope|JDR's]] insanity, [[Powerpuff Girls Doujinshi|Bleedman's]] love of plagiarism, [[Better Days|Jay Naylor's]] political views, and [[Jack|Dave Hopkins']] art skills. Now multiply all those things by a million and you will have Christian Weston Chandler's ''The Adventures of Sonichu And Rosechu'', or as it's also known, ''Sonichu''. Without a doubt <u>'''THE WORST WEBCOMIC EVER'''</u>. Now, some of you may be thinking, "oh, that's just your opinion," but I assure you, it is a fact. <br />
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Before I even start, I think a few preemptive clarifications and apologies are in order. Firstly, I regret to admit that this will not be a comprehensive review. This is simply because addressing every single flaw in this comic and every single public spectacle caused by its creator is an insurmountable task. Even adding links for everything that ''is'' mentioned in this article to the corresponding page is a bit too much. At the moment "Chris-chan" has one of the longest and most convoluted articles ever written on Encyclopedia Dramatica, and there are two entire wikis dedicated to Christian and his comic. The [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Main_Page "CWCki"] contains over 1,300 articles and grows continuously, and the now debunked but still archived [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Main_Page "CWCpedia"] contains an additional 899 articles. There's also a [http://www.youtube.com/user/Asperchu third] [http://web.archive.org/web/20100330094633/http://www.hsienko.com/asperchu/index.php?title=Main_Page (now deleted)] wiki that dealt solely with [http://asperchu.thecomicseries.com/ Asperchu] and the other numerous ''Sonichu'' parodies that once ran rampant and flooded the net and had another 620 articles. Simply listing everything there is to say about the comic and the man who made it without even going into detail about it would '''still''' result in an article at least twice as long as anything else on BWW. So, I would just like to apologize that, unlike other reviews where we attempt to address everything, with ''Sonichu'', I humbly admit that this can not be done. It is impossible to keep up with everything CWC does, let alone catalog it all in a single page. <br />
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My second apology is that, as you can tell from this intro, this review will run a bit long (and it will be picture-heavy because this stuff is just too funny). Like I explained, although I can never mention everything there is to say about this topic, there is still '''A LOT''' to discuss. I will try to shorten it as much as I can, but this comic deserves a review as long as it gets. And the last thing I would like to say I am sorry for is the untimely fashion in which this review has been presented. A ''Sonichu'' review is '''LONG''' overdue. This thing is the worst webcomic in history. It may be the worst piece of art ever made. It goes beyond having no value or merit to the point that it actually does damage to its readers. Reading this thing may very well make you dumber. I regret a review for it was not made sooner when the comic was more relevant. Its thread has been laying dormant since 2009, and even though I know Chris no longer makes as much of a scene when he is insulted online, I still write this review with an almost perverse glee at the thought that he may discover this review and blow yet another shit fit over it.<br />
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So buckle up, get your puke bucket, and get ready to enter the magical world of ''Sonichu''.<br />
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==Why even review this?==<br />
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When this comic was brought up on the BWW forums, one of the questions that arose was, "why bother?" This comic is widely regarded as the worst comic ever made. Everything there is to say about it has already been said. All of its flaws are apparent at first glance, so there is really nothing to review. Furthermore, its creator is autistic, so there's no reason to think any criticism will inspire him to improve, and indeed, it hasn't. So why bother even writing a review for something everyone already knows is bad?<br />
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Except for the last point that I will address later in the "Author Biography" section, I would like to explain why I still went ahead and made a review for this thing.<br />
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It's simple: Because no one has ever reviewed this comic. Everything to say about this comic has been said. However, despite it being the most infamously bad webcomic ever to reach the internet, no noteworthy webcomic review site has ever written an article about it. As a person who chooses to document this part of internet culture, and I am speaking not only for the people who write articles for this website, but anyone who has picked up the gauntlet of webcomic reviews (bad or otherwise), and attempt to fill the void left by John Solomon. It is remiss of us to overlook this comic. Everyone and their dog has already said their piece regarding Chris-chan, yet we, the ones who should have been first to approach this, have ignored this literally for years. Us overlooking ''Sonichu'' would be like a chef refusing to use salt. Not having it reviewed on this website is like composing a list of history's greatest thinkers and leaving out Einstein.<br />
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So I know that I am stating the obvious. I know that I am scratching the bottom of the barrel. I know that there's no need to tell anyone this comic is bad. Still, it needs to have an article on this website. Not because I need to convince anyone that it's bad, but simply because it needs an article.<br />
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==Downfall== <br />
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I would like to simply say that this comic was bad from the very beginning, and there is no comic for which this is more true, but that would be taking the easy way out. To be more precise, there are two instances where the comic's quality takes a nose dive like a drunk Olympic swimmer flying a malfunctioning airplane with one wing missing.<br />
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The first comes around [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_2/Page_1 issue two, episode seven], where the focus shifts from the comic's titular character "Sonichu" to Chris-Chan's Mary-Sue self-insert. From then on, the comic becomes a series of deranged payback stories about people who Christian thinks wronged him (most of whom were just doing their jobs), and desperate pleas for sex by way of ham-handed and obvious additions of girls he was interested in (70% trolls, 30% girls who found him repulsive) into the comic. Not to say that those things are not what the comic has always been about, but once the camera swayed away from Sonichu and onto Chris, it became more and more obscene and self-indulgent.<br />
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The second part where the comic cranks the crazy up to 11 is near the end. As the comic was winding down to its inevitable demise, Chris began to become more and more unhinged as a result of constant trolling, and around [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_10/Page_2 issue ten], it descended into full-on lunacy. The last two chapters focused almost exclusively on Chandler's epic journey where he brutally murders all his tormentors [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/thumb/3/3a/SchuComic10P35.jpg/512px-SchuComic10P35.jpg alongside countless innocent civilians]. Most of the last few chapters read like a poorly drawn propaganda pamphlet advocating an anti-gay genocide, as well as a semi-separate one for internet trolls. I say "semi-separate" because, in Chris' mind, all trolls are homosexuals and, therefore, evil (I'm not making this up).<br />
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In other words, this comic begins at a lower starting point than any other and continues to deteriorate in congruence with its author's mental health.<br />
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==Story and Plot==<br />
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This story is the most deranged thing you will ever read. The most amazing thing about it is that there actually is any plot at all. Of course, it does not make a single bit of sense and has so many plot holes that you could paint it yellow and call it SpongeBob, but the fact that there is actually some kind of continuity between chapters is a shock in itself that I could barely recover from. There's some kind of prophecy, people trying to get their hands on <strike>Sonichu's balls<strike> the "Sonichu Balls", some characters disappear and cannot rejoin the plot until they are saved from wherever they are stuck, and everything winds down to a "climactic" final battle where Chris and Sonichu finally get the balls, evolve into their ultimate forms, and go fight all their enemies that have joined into one group to destroy CWCville. The fact Chris is able to remember plot points from past episodes is something I ''still'' can't get over.<br />
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Here is a short summary of as of the story that was relevant to the plot and did not veer off into a psychotic tangent:<br />
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"Sonichu" is about a fictional city (whether Chris realizes this place is not real is actually still up for debate) called CWCville (pronounced "Quickville" somehow...) and founded by Chris-chan's father (who named it after his son who he had not yet conceived) where Chris is the mayor (because that position is handed from father to son with no need for an election). When Sonic the Hedgehog fights a monster on the outskirts of town, he crashes into a Pikachu and it becomes a totally new and "original" character called "Sonichu". This also somehow makes Chris his father. The crash also creates a magical rainbow that sends out eggs all over Virginia, the moon, and the past for some reason, that hatch more <strike>Sonic recolors</strike> original characters.<br />
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That is the set up. The plot is more about Chris himself. It follows his romantic misadventures with girls he knows in real life but whom are only interested in him in the comic and avoid him in real life, and his dealing with pretty much anyone who has ever caused him any kind of perceived injustice. This includes a shop owner who banned him from his store for harassing black children and pretending they stole from him, security guards who threw him out of a number of shops and malls for soliciting sex and harassing young girls, an old school dean who kicked him out of school for soliciting sex, ALL MEN EVER for making it hard for him to find a girlfriend, internet trolls, all homosexuals, all asexuals, and anyone else he finds guilty for his own misfortune and mistakes. In the comic, his actions are portrayed in a far more heroic manner. In ''Sonichu'', all these people are after Chris because they don't want him to lose his virginity, or just hate autistics, and all have magical super powers, as does Chris. Every conflict devolves into a massive superhero fight in which Chris wins and deals out disproportionately cruel punishments to anyone who stands in his way. You know, the way he never could in real life.<br />
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The setting of "CWCvile" is even more ridiculous. [http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sonichu Know Your Meme] describes it as a totalitarian communist state, while [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Webcomic/Sonichu?from=Main.Sonichu TV Tropes] says it's more along the lines of an Orwellian nightmare. I interpret it as a crumbling pseudo-religious dictatorship. If you look, you will see that all the elements are there: a megalomaniacal leader that has inherited his power from his father and has passed on all his administrative duties to his employees (his secretary in the comic does all the work), set up his office at the top of the mall which he cannot enter due to rebel forces (he literally can't get into his own office in his own comic), and is backed by his squad of super powered goons who are, by his decree, above the law and may slaughter all his opponents. There is only one [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/KCWC government-sponsored radio station] that plays 24/7 pro-Chris propaganda, all of Chris' opposition are demonized in the press, and in the comic itself, and are either killed or executed after mock trials. All citizens are constantly monitored by the secret police [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Magi-Chan (Magi-Chan)] in all aspects, including sexual activity (gay sex is not allowed in CWCville), and all tobacco and alcohol is forbidden.<br />
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All of this is just the beginning. I wrote three paragraphs without even getting into any of the actual plot points. Like Chris' search for a "boyfriend-free girl", [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/0/01/SchuComic10P09.jpg God and Jesus (or "GodJesus" as Chris once called them) descending from the heavens to tell some girl Chris hardly knew she should be his girlfriend], [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Crystal_Weston_Chandler_%28sister%29 Chris making himself an imaginary twin sister], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_2/Page_2 CHRIS GETTING MAGICAL SONICHU SUPER POWERS FROM HIS NATIVE AMERICAN ANCESTORS], etc.<br />
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You want more crazy shit? Read the comic. Or don't.<br />
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... Yeah, don't.<br />
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==Art review==<br />
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The art looks like Chris drew it without using his hands. He was once quoted saying that it takes him an hour to make one page, and he uses pencils, sharpies, and crayons. In a normal comic, I would have to pick and choose what is the best panel to use for me to showcase the flaws in the art, but in this one, I don't even know where to start. I am just going to pick a page at random.<br />
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Let's see... issue 9, page 82...<br />
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[[File:SchuComic9P81.jpg|thumb|400px|center|<center>Oh my! It's a doozy!</center>]]<br />
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In this one, the guy in the upper left corner is [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Liquid Ian Brandon Anderson], which in real life was the name trolls called the real Chris when someone else impersonated him for a while, despite not looking anything like him. This was still more than enough to make Chris rage. In the comic, Ian has just been murdered by Sonichu, and is being taken to Hell by devil trolls as punishment for not being nice to Chris, after which Sonichu is confronted by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Eggman Dr. Ivo Robotnik], [http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/Giovanni Giovanni from Pokémon], and his son, who are holding Rosechu hostage with the help of a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decepticon Decepticon].<br />
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[[File:best_mall.jpg|thumb|350px|right|<center>''BEST FUCKING MALL '''EVER!!!!'''''</center>]]<br />
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But enough about what's going on and onto the art. What is there to say? You have eyes, don't you? You see it. None of the characters look like who they are supposed to be, nothing is consistent, the background has a habit of disappearing without explanation (as well as characters' entire bodies whenever Chris gets too lazy, leaving them with nothing but a floating head), and Eggman's nose looks like a penis. The art fits the story like a shit encrusted glove. If you pay attention, you will also notice that "Rosechu" is a dead ringer for Amy Rose. [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/7/72/E1p35.jpg At one point in the comic, they meet and it is impossible to tell who is who.]<br />
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Oh, and did you know that Chris also has a degree in [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/CADD "Computer-Aided Drafting and Design"]? What have you done with ''your'' life?! But spending six years getting this degree (it was a two year course) still did not seem to help him at all. Not even a fully sentient super computer from the future like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_9000 HAL 9000] could help Chris with his drafting and design. Even more hilariously, whenever someone makes a parody of his comic, he criticizes it on the quality of its art, claiming it is not as good as his.<br />
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==Writing review== <br />
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[[File:Thw world.jpg|thumb|250px|left|<center>"''Go Magi! Go out into '''thw''' world!''"</center>]]<br />
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There is a typo on the very first page. "Our story begins in a open field five '''''mies''''' from the city of Station Square" and all text is written in ALL CAPS Comic Sans. That's not enough? I think that says it all. <br />
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Fine. Read on. <br />
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First, the characters. I grow tired of how often I have to say this but: there are no characters in ''Sonichu'', not really. I read somewhere that ''Sonichu'' has 136 characters, yet not a single one of them has a personality. They are all a bunch of identical Sonic recolor Mary-Sues, with their leader "Sonichu" being the penultimate Mary-Sue. He is second only to Chris-chan himself, who in the comic possesses all the powers of all his characters (making them obsolete), alongside his own powers, which only grow stronger when he transforms into "Chris-Chan Sonichu" and then again at some point into "Colossus Sonichu" which literally gives him unlimited godlike powers that allow him to warp reality as he sees fit and [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/f/f9/SchuComic10P61.jpg causes the cast to momentarily consider worshiping him as if he was a god]. He declines this offer (well, he writes the story so actually he made that offer to himself) although it seems pretty obvious that he thinks his characters (again, there is a possibility he thinks they are real) <del>should</del> worship him, and only declines because it may be blasphemous. Yes, Chris is very religious despite not understanding the Bible at all, and possibly not fully understanding who Jesus even is. But getting back to the point, the irony in this story is amazing because it actually expects us to root for Chris. In most Mary-Sue comics, the protagonist is impossibly virtuous while the villains are laughably evil. And Chris must think that this is also the case with his own comic (not understanding that even this would be very flawed writing), but in reality the comic shows him going around committing all kinds of atrocities like killing, maiming, and attempting to break up relationships for his own selfish reasons, and the villains seem like heroes trying to stop him.<br />
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[[File:Mach punch.jpg|thumb|250px|right|<center>"''Sonichu <del>punches</del> <b>MACH PUNCHES</b> an old lady''"</center>]]<br />
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The comic is an insane revenge fantasy to end all insane revenge fantasies. What's more, this is all only compounded by the fact it makes no goddamn sense! Chris poorly attempts to present his horrible actions favorably by morphing them into even more horrible ones, and all the while confusing the audience further by hinting, nay, ''screaming'' at them that he is the hero of this story. Mix that with the fact this comic follows no logic and you get something so nonsensical that it makes your eyes cross (time travel arcs and [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Retcon retcons] don't help either) and the result is a mix of unintentionally hilarious and mindbogglingly stupid.<br />
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Going into detail about every kind of flaw this comic's writing has would take two eternities. So instead I give you<br />
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'''<u>ODDGUY'S TOP 15 MOST INSANE MOMENTS IN ''SONICHU''.</u>'''<br />
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'''<u>15. The "Anchuent" Prophesy.</u>'''<br />
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Some of you may wonder where Chris gets his super powers in the comic. Surprisingly, this is actually explained. Unsurprisingly, the explanation is retarded. In the comic he comes across a cave guarded by... some guy... who tells him that he is the chosen one from the <strike>ancient</strike> '''Anchuent''' prophecy foretold by the Cherokee Indians, and gives him his magic Sonichu medallion (that Chris wears in real life... ALL THE TIME!) that allows him to transform into "Chris-Chan Sonichu". But it doesn't end there; Chris' Native American ancestor also gives power to his wife's descendant, who just happens to be some childhood friend of Chris, who has been avoiding him for years after she grew up and he remained at the mental age he was when they met each other in preschool. And finally, he also gives powers to the future relative of his mortal enemy from the opposing Native American clan. Who were the Cherokee's historical rivals? Why, the "Wasabi Clan" of course! And who is their leader's living next of kin? That girl's boyfriend, against whom Chris holds a grudge for letting her sit on his lap in front of him...<br />
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In the comic the girl fights her evil boyfriend and punishes him for hurting Chris' feelings. In reality, she has long ago cut all connections from Chris for being creepy and obsessive about her (probably only because he thought she might eventually sleep with him) and didn't give a shit about his feelings.<br />
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'''<u>14. Wedding Bust.</u>'''<br />
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This saga continued when Chris found out this girl is getting married. He drew a comic in which her old boyfriend crashes the wedding and attempts to kidnap her, but is then defeated by Chris using ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yu-Gi-Oh! Yu-Gi-Ho!]'' cards and returned to her husband, who is inexplicably a ''Yu-Gi-Ho!'' monster.<br />
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In reality, Chris was not invited to the wedding, and the guy who in the comic attempts to kidnap her had long since forgotten about some girl he briefly dated in high school and couldn't care less about her upcoming wedding. The one who didn't forget about her was Chris. The one who couldn't let her go despite her never reciprocating his feelings was Chris. And the one she would have had to have been saved from, had he attended the wedding, is once again Chris.<br />
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'''<u>13. Sweet, Pure Angelica.</u>'''<br />
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One of the comic's endless supply of Sonic recolors is "Angelica". Left at the doorstep of a monastery and raised by nuns, she gets her flying powers directly from God, for which she shows her gratitude by [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/6/65/SchuComic9P32.jpg having sex in the church with a Pokemon.]<br />
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[[File:Thatdirtywhore.jpg|thumb|500px|center|<center>''That dirty whore.''</center>]]<br />
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'''<u>12. The Brown Note.</u>'''<br />
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Chris' arch-nemesis is the polar opposite of himself. Well, actually, for that to be true, he would have to be intelligent, charming and attractive. In actuality he is the antithesis of what Chris ''thinks'' of himself. In other words: An evil gay guy who likes Xbox. And in the same way Chris has his ultimate attack, the "Curse-ye-ha-me-ha", which inflicts its victim with unreasonably bad luck (like causing the mall guard that tossed Chris out to have his wife leave him and take the house and kids), and which Chris has attempted to use on people in real life on several occasions, so does his enemy have an ultimate attack: The "Qee-fee-mea-mo-bo-bo", which unlike the "Curse-ye-ha-me-ha", doesn't delve out bad luck, but rather "humiliation". How does this work? When he attempted to destroy Chris with it, it was deflected back onto him, causing him to poop and piss his pants.<br />
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[[File:Shitsself.jpg|thumb|250px|center|<center>''Yes, make him shit himself. That will stop his army of giant robots.''</center>]]<br />
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'''<u>11. The Return Of "Pattie".</u>'''<br />
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In one of the only displays of honest emotion not motivated by the prospect of personal gain in the comic, and maybe all of Chris' life, Chris revives his recently-deceased dog "Pattie" and sends her off to live in CWCville. Their heartfelt goodbye stops just short of them making out.<br />
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[[File:Pattiekiss.jpg|thumb|250px|center|<center>''JEFF! OH MY GOD!''</center>]]<br />
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'''<u>10. Chris Beats An Elderly Woman And Then Harasses A Handicapped Person... Oops, Wait, That's The Same Lady.</u>'''<br />
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Chris finally confronts his archnemesis, Mary Lee Walsh, in a climactic final battle. During said battle, she explains her motivation for dedicating her life to preventing Chris from getting laid is that she is [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P74.jpg an old, ugly hag who no one could ever love] (remember, this is a real person.) Then Chris and Sonichu beat her, [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P77.jpg paralyze her], and send the 60 year old handicapped woman to a maximum security prison.<br />
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[[File:Storytime.jpg|thumb|500px|center|<center>''Chris is so touched by her heartbreaking story that he <strike>forgives her for all her transgressions against him and lets her go</strike> beats the crap out of her.''</center>]]<br />
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'''<u>9. Sexy Time With Shadow.</u>'''<br />
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An evil, shape-shifting, hermaphrodite Rosechu (the female counterpart of the Sonichu breed) sets out to destroy Chris and co. How does she plan to do this? By transforming into each of the characters' significant others (everyone in "Sonichu" MUST have a girlfriend due to CWC's own fixation on finding one) and sleeping with them for no good reason. But her plan goes awry when she is impersonating Blachu to have gay sex with Bubbles-Rosechu and cannot replicate his electric attack which [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic8P90.jpg he uses on her for her sexual pleasure]... Oh, by the way, according to Chris, this is a children's comic.<br />
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'''<u>8. Chris Takes A Stand For Women's Rights... But Mostly For Himself...</u>'''<br />
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In one particularly insane saga, the characters discover that they are being drawn as either gay or pre-op transgenders on 4Chan. The stupidity escalates when Rosechu posts naked pictures of herself on 4Chan ("4Cents-garbage" as it is named in the comic) to prove she is "all woman" in what has to be the most un-arousing case of fanservice in the history of webcomics, only to have a penis photoshopped onto her on the site. She then goes to confront the the owner of 4Chan. At this point it becomes evident that Chris does not realize that 4Chan and Encyclopedia Dramatica are not the same site, and that the person who wrote the article about him does not own either one. They go to the top of the 4Chan tower (haha... m00t wishes), where Satan himself is an employee, and after [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/3/38/SchuComic8P35.jpg giving a long speech about forgiveness], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic8P30.jpg implying that not trolling Chris is the will of God himself], she takes all her clothes off and beats him unconscious by shoving her vagina in his face.<br />
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[[File:Facerape.jpg|thumb|250px|center|<center>''Yes! Get naked and stick your vagina in his face! That will teach him not to objectify women!''</center>]]<br />
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<u>Bonus Points:</u><br />
* This is all meant to be some kind of stand for women's lib.<br />
* The issue also includes detailed diagrams of the Sonichu reproductive system and explanation of their sexual habits.<br />
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'''<u>7. The End Of 4Chan.org</u>'''<br />
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Chris sets out to destroy the 4Chan tower by rocking out (seriously), which is even more hilarious because he does so with a [http://i.imgur.com/xppsE.jpg "Guitar Hero" Wii-mote]. Two of the main trolls escape, one of whom denounces trolling because he is straight (since trolling and heterosexuality are mutually exclusive), and leaves Clyde Cash and Jack, two of Chris' trolls, to their fate. The two choose to commit suicide rather than face the wrath of Chris (again, I'm serious). So the two hold hands and leap to their death, in a genuinely touching display that ironically could easily be used for advocating gay rights against persecution.<br />
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[[File:Votefordeath.jpg|thumb|350px|center|<center>''I swear, I actually choked up a bit when reading this part.''</center>]]<br />
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<u>Bonus Points:</u><br />
* The building's collapse kills hundreds of innocent people whose only crime was working there. (I'm not speculating; [http://i.imgur.com/KAfze.jpg Chris explains this.])<br />
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'''<u>6. Black Street.</u>'''<br />
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[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_10/Page_71 Sonichu meets a sick, black, homeless, drug-addicted, Jamaican war veteran living in a dumpster on the street.]<br />
[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P72.jpg Sonichu calls the police.]<br />
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'''<u>5. Animal Abuse? Child Abuse? You Decide.</u>'''<br />
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[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic3P8.jpg An egg, carrying yet another Sonic ripoff, lands in a dojo run by an Excel Saga ripoff, and hatches.] The dojo owner's daughter is enraged by the infant's insolence of daring to be born in her father's presence, and challenges the literally seconds-old newborn to a fight. She proceeds to brutally rip off the baby's tail, at which point he evolves into an offensive, Asian racial stereotype version of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knuckles_the_Echidna Knuckles], and uses his spiked fist to punch her into outer space. The dojo owner [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic3P9.jpg rewards him for murdering his daughter by making him his student.]<br />
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'''<u>4. Special School Massacre.</u>'''<br />
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The comic's main villain, an old school dean who once expelled Chris for good reason, is, in the comic, an evil witch who uses a brain-control ray to transform the inhabitants of CWCville into her slaves (read: mall guards). Chris explains to the audience that this ray only works on the [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic4P55.jpg "slow-in-mind"]. Hilarity ensues when you realize this means that whenever Sonichu and friends fight Mary Lee's minions, they are actually beating through wave after wave of the mentally handicapped.<br />
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[[File:Punchythehero.jpg|thumb|300px|center|<center>''<strike>Knuckles</strike> um, I mean '''Punchy''' CWCville's hero, beating up a group of helpless retards.''</center>]]<br />
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<u>Bonus Points:</u><br />
* Since Chris is autistic, he himself should be susceptible to the ray's power. <br />
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'''<u>3. Alec's Rape Extravaganza!</u>'''<br />
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Christian transforms into his most Mary-Sueist of Mary-Sue versions, and goes off to fight Alec Benson Leary (one of the creators of the [http://asperchu.thecomicseries.com/ "Asperchu"] parody) and save his spoofs of the Sonichu characters from a fate worse than death. I.E: having Asperger's Syndrome (which Chris hates... long story) with which Alec had "infected" them, as if it is some kind of venereal disease. Afterwards he saves an additional 4 ripoff characters of his own making, under the claim that Alec has been keeping them in his basement and raping them (in the case of one of them, to the point of death.)<br />
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'''<u>2. The "Simonchu" Fiasco.</u>'''<br />
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Chris had a lot of fights with trolls, but this is the one I personally found most amusing in its show of irony and hypocrisy on Chris' part.<br />
The story in short is that Chris [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Evan stole a troll fan character], [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Simonla_Rosechu changed its gender], and refused to remove it from the comic. First because denying one of his characters of its girlfriend would be cruel, and then because he "could have come up with it himself" even though he didn't. He continued to refuse until the trolls began to hold CWCpedia hostage (which he still doesn't realize was intended to mock him) at which point he agreed to kill off the character, which he did [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P82.jpg with an exploding toilet.] Only to have it immediately replaced by her identical clone daughter, who then executes her original creator after he is found guilty in a mock trial of not allowing Chris to steal his character and sentenced to death for it. The two week old girl [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P92.jpg drills off his arms and legs, then uses a drill to castrate him, and finally electrocutes him to death] together with her father.<br />
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<u>Bonus points:</u><br />
* He is also found guilty of trying to assassinate Chris by dropping a massive, hanging TV screen Chris was using to broadcast a speech. He aimed to do this by hanging off the ceiling ''"Mission Impossible"'' style, and [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P80.jpg cutting the steel chains with a pair of household scissors.]<br />
* The chapter alternates in between the troll's unfair trial and Chris' mayoral speech in which he apologizes to them for his own wrongdoings. So we get to see Chris telling this person he is sorry for stealing his character, while he is simultaneously executing him for it.<br />
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{| style="margin: 1em auto 1em auto; color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|+<b>The "Simonchu" Saga In A Nutshell.</b><br />
|-<br />
|<center>'''Evan's brilliant plan'''</center><br />
|-<br />
|<center>[[File:Evans plan.jpg|center]]</center><br />
|-<br />
|<center>'''The plaintiff's initials being inscribed on the judge's stand is always a good sign you are about to have a fair trial'''</center><br />
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|[[File:Cwc judge.jpg|center]]<br />
|-<br />
|<center>'''GUILTY X4!!!!'''</center><br />
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|[[File:Guilty 4x.jpg|center]]<br />
|-<br />
|<center>'''All good reasons to kill a bunch of guys'''</center><br />
|-<br />
|[[File:Reasons to kill.jpg|center]]<br />
|-<br />
|<center>'''THE END'''</center><br />
|}<br />
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'''<u>1. I AM NOT HOMOPHOBIC!!! NOW WATCH ME KILL ALL THESE GAY PEOPLE!!!</u>'''<br />
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Chris travels to the future to find out that his blood is the cure for homosexuality (stop laughing, there's more). He fight his nemesis, who is the opposite of himself, and therefore ultra-super-gay and also evil, and injects him with his blood, <strike>giving him AIDS<strike> curing him of gayness. Then he floods the world's water supply with <strike>the cure<strike> his blood and rids the world of homos.<br />
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<u>Bonus points:</u><br />
* He cures gays in the present with a cure he got from the future, thereby destroying the thing for which the cure was created before it was made and creating a time paradox.<br />
* He somehow fills 50 Mack trucks with his own blood.<br />
* Despite curing all the homos (and asexuals, who he also hates for some reason) in a later chapter gays still exists and are being monitored by Chris and thrown in jail for being gay.<br />
* Since a vaccine is made out of a weakened or dead version of the virus, for Chris' blood to be the cure for gayness he would have to be the most gay person to have ever lived.<br />
* The comic ends with CWC commemorating his victory over trolls and gays (who are one and the same) by creating a new holiday: "Christian Love Day". Which ironically celebrates mass murder and genocide.<br />
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==Author Biography== <br />
[[File:sooo_offended.jpg|thumb|400px|center|<center>''Chris' reaction to anything written about him on the internet.''</center>]]<br />
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What can I say about Chris Chan that has not already been said about terminal cancer? Well, for one thing, be it by miraculous recovery or the sweet release of death, the misery caused by cancer ends at some point. Whereas Christian's antics seem like they intend to continue for the rest of eternity. In October 2011 he was arrested for [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/28_October_2011 his second attempt at vehicular homicide] [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Michael_Snyder against a video game shop owner who had banned him from the store three years beforehand, and who he (wrongly) believes is Jewish.] In February 2012 he lost his virginity at the age of 30 after years of stalking and sexually harassing girls at the local mall (I have been told by a credible source that this was done with the help of a prostitute.) His behavior is so demented that things he has done that would have made any normal person a laughingstock for the rest of his life almost flew under the radar when he did it. "Encyclopedia Dramatica" spent years documenting his antics until they finally just gave up. His exploits also include [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Twin_Falling_Towers denigrating the memory of 9/11 to mock a troll], [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Blackface shooting a youtube video in blackface,] [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Fanta#Fanta:_Semen_Flavor drinking his own semen], cheating at a contest intended for children, racism, misogyny, anti-Semitism, death threats, homophobia, crossdressing, sexual harassment, attempt at murder, and the list goes on and on (excuse me but I just can't add links anymore). At the moment he holds the place for second most hated webcomic artist ever, second only to Buckley, because everyone knows he has autism, whereas with Buckley, we can only assume.<br />
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This brings me to the main part of this section: His autism.<br />
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Many people think that all criticism of Christian is cruel due to his condition, and in part I agree. But it's important to remember he has mild autism. Leaked medical documents say that there isn't really that much wrong with him... Or at least there shouldn't be. So how do I explain all of this? Well, people often forget that those inflicted with these kinds of conditions are not identical clones that step off a factory conveyor belt. They each have their own personalities, and Christian's is the worst. His parents aren't helpful in that aspect, either. Let me put it this way: Have you ever seen the movie ''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117666/ "Sling Blade"]''? Well, you should have. Do you remember the scene where Walter tells the psychiatrist how his parents kept him in the shed because "they didn't want him in the house with the rest of 'em"? This is sort of the same. Once they understood their child has autism, Bob and Barbara Chandler abandoned all expectations of him and resolved to just buy him whatever he wants and do whatever he wants as long as it will keep him out of their hair and thereby turning him into the selfish, ego-driven manchild that he is today. What I'm saying is this: People with autism can live normal lives. They can get jobs, get married, have kids. I am not saying it's easy, but with dedication and attention from the people around them, they can grow to be contributing members of society. Other autistics HATE Chris-chan. Many have made videos begging people not to get the wrong idea about them because of what Chris does. I honestly believe that had he not been born that way he may not have been so susceptible to being fooled by trolls or so quick to humiliate himself, but he would have still been the same awful person.<br />
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I feel sorry for Chris. I understand he can't control part of what he does, but that can't be his excuse for everything.<br />
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==Conclusion==<br />
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Do not read this comic.<br />
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Unless you are doing it purely for the spectacle of it you have nothing to gain from it. In any other comic, I would tell people to check it out only so you could learn what mistakes you should avoid. But in this case there is no point. There is not a single mistake here that you could not sidestep by using the most basic of common sense. What could you possibly learn from this? Don't draw yourself murdering people you dislike with super powers? Don't upload drawings of yourself having sex with a girl you are romantically pursuing onto troll sites? Don't use your real name when buying anal beads online? I think you can all figure these things on your own.<br />
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This comic tops the chart in every criteria this website uses to gauge the value of its review subjects. The worst art, most awful writing, most insane plot, biggest Mary-Sue characters ever, craziest and most insufferable author...<br />
<br />
In short:<br />
This truly is the worst comic ever made. Yes, even worse than [[Billy the Heretic]], atrocious as ''that'' was.<br />
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==Massive Chris-Chan Link Dump:==<br />
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[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu_Comic_Collection Archive Of The Comic Itself.]<br />
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[["Sonichu Finale" Interview|Our Interview with Sonichu Finale's artist Harry Manzinni.]]<br />
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Chris has about a million other, dead accounts on every website imaginable. I will not be adding links to them here. Find them on your own.<br />
<br />
'''<u>Articles.</u>'''<br />
<br />
* [http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sonichu Know Your Meme "Sonichu" Article.]<br />
* [http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/chris-chancwcchristian-weston-chandler Know Your Meme "Chris-Chan" Article.]<br />
* [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Webcomic/Sonichu?from=Main.Sonichu TV Tropes "Sonichu" Article.]<br />
* [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/CreatorBreakdown/Webcomics Mentioned in TV Tropes article about webcomic artists who had a massive meltdown.]<br />
* [http://ohinternet.com/Chris-chan Ohi Article on "Chris-Chan".]<br />
* [http://ohinternet.com/Sonichu Ohi Article On "Sonichu".]<br />
* [http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Christian_Weston_Chandler Uncyclopedia CWC article.]<br />
* [http://www.cracked.com/funny-3956-chris-chan/ Cracked Chris-chan article.]<br />
* [http://heavy.com/comedy/2010/07/the-20-worst-internet-losers/4/ Chris ranks #1 in article of top 20 internet losers.]<br />
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'''<u>Parodies.</u>'''<br />
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* [http://asperchu.thecomicseries.com/ "Asperchu".] - Ironically, this is actually one of the best comics I have read.<br />
* [http://hcandersen.deviantart.com/ "Sonichu Unleashed".] - A few of the creators of "Asperchu" are trying to get to comic going again.<br />
* [http://gabmonteiro9389.deviantart.com/gallery/24330410 "Sonichu Remake".] - An actually GOOD artists redraws "Sonichu".<br />
* [http://sonichufinale.canalblog.com/ "Sonichu: Finally".] - Yet another parody. The rest of it is [http://harrymanzinni.deviantart.com/gallery/ here].<br />
:: We also have [["Sonichu Finale" Interview|an interview with the artist]].<br />
* [http://depositfiles.com/files/k59r18li3 "Moon Pals".] - Thought to have been lost but one of us found a downloadable archive.<br />
* [http://web.archive.org/web/20091212082041/http://sonichuisgay.thecomicseries.com/comics/1/ An archived version of "Sonichu is Gay".] - A spin-off of asperchu.<br />
* [http://web.archive.org/web/20090923011746/http://sonichu.thecomicseries.com/ An archived version of "Sonichu is Dead".] - Another spin-off of asperchu.<br />
* [http://imgur.com/fWC2lw3,1B7ulIl,GIIC5w1,eu84mkL,5eeYSx1,aNUzCR8,7eoGNbq,53ilnRW,i6xiNk6,3FirXzm,lrcSkRr,oQHqVSK,CYo0pA6,3ZTtGWC Temporarily here]<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPeAkOtu2Oo A video of the seven strips of "Capering Berries".] - A parody mocking the Simonchu fiasco.<br />
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<s>All other parody works are not worth mentioning. I was also able to contact the creator of "Simonchu". He did not want to comment, but he did say that he did not keep any copies of it or "Moon Pals" (another parody) and doesn't know if anyone has.</s><br />
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'''<u>More Funny Pictures From The Comic I Couldn't Figure Out How To Work Into The Review.</u>'''<br />
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* [http://i.imgur.com/zBtl8.jpg Sonichu is Chris' only friend.] - )':<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/DQqHb.jpg I don't know why.] - But this is just hilarious to me.<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/lsxjt.jpg This just looks like he's throwing urine at some guy.]<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/HszYC.jpg Almost twincest.] - So this is where Naylor got this from...<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/lir2r.jpg Chris transforms into hideous mutant.] - Or at least more so than usual...<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/pCYdw.jpg Ignore all the hilariously ironic text.] - And focus instead on the fact that Rosechu is eating a wrench.<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/iUMEV.jpg Porno?] - Rosechu says: [http://lovablelabelsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/fonz1.jpg "AYEEE!!!"]<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/FQ1ta.jpg 1] [http://i.imgur.com/x6nEM.jpg 2],[http://i.imgur.com/DPvkz.jpg 3],[http://i.imgur.com/zbH3v.jpg 4],[http://i.imgur.com/GxexT.jpg 5] - Pictures where Chris equates either himself or Sonichu to god, or implies that fulfilling his desires is the lords will.<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/mZkHy.jpg 1],[http://i.imgur.com/13oQU.jpg 2] - Pictures where Chris implies that fulfilling his will is the American way... So strange how often those things seem to coincide.<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/O5uJo.jpg 1],[http://i.imgur.com/1f0UQ.jpg 2],[http://i.imgur.com/ipxai.jpg 3] - Sonichu's anti gay hate speeches and [http://i.imgur.com/MRjqO.jpg apology]. Followed by Chris exterminating all homosexuals.<br />
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'''<u>Other.</u>'''<br />
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* [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Main_Page "CWCki".] - A wiki about Chris.<br />
* [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Main_Page Archived Version Of "CWCpedia".] - The other wiki about Chris.<br />
* [http://web.archive.org/web/20100330094633/http://www.hsienko.com/asperchu/index.php?title=Main_Page Asperpedia.] - Can only be seen using Web Archive anymore.<br />
* [http://annotatedsonichu.tumblr.com/ "Sonichu" Mock Tumblr.]<br />
* [http://fuckwhychrischan.tumblr.com/ Other "Sonichu" Tumblr.]<br />
* [http://twitter.com/Sonichu1 "Sonichu" twitter.]<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/user/CWCAnimatedLibrary "Sonichu" - The Animated Series.]<br />
* <strike>"Sonichu" Audiobooks. Deleted days before I finished this review.</strike> [http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL12A55E9C82971031&feature=plcp&fb_source=message Someone made a backup!]<br />
* [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/A_Girl_Who_Brought_Down_the_World#The_original_text "A Girl Who Brought Down The World".] - An entire book made by the same person who made the audiobooks and sent to Chris. He never read it, gave it to his minister for Christmas, asked the girl who made it to pay the mailing fees, and finally sent her YouTube death threats.<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsDdXHQbXsc Webcomic Relief on YouTube] also has a review of ''Sonichu''.<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdGujEC2Xx8 Webcomic Relief on YouTube] has more to say about it.<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQEs2BcbcM And more...]<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8v1J8ZZf_w and more...]<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkCpdU3EYe4 and more...]<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlMlL9zXwag and more...]<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxTaIO1PINw and more...]<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23qcd14SpT8 and more...but I think I'll stop it here.]<br />
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[[Category:Abandoned]]<br />
[[Category:Webcomics]]</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Long_Tom&diff=16557User talk:Long Tom2015-02-03T02:34:55Z<p>DentsAndDings: /* Vandalism */ new section</p>
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<div>== I made you an admin. ==<br />
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* Hope that's cool [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 09:44, 5 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== About the Sandra And Woo review + viki fox + ozzy and milly. ==<br />
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* <u>'''Sandra & Woo-''' </u> It seems the creator reported the images you uploaded to imgur to have them deleted... I can't prove this, but none of out other imgur content has ever been deleted and the maker of this comic has a history of being butthurt about the review. But it's just in time because on this wiki we have to upload directly. So do me a favor and upload all the pictures of that review to the wiki when you see this. I'll handle the rest... By the way, wanna link to her site directly to see how long until she redirects our traffic again? Just to piss her off some more.<br />
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* <u>'''Vikki Fox + Ozzy & Milly-''' </u> I am moving those reviews out of the main listing and into our article section. Sorry, but when people see these comics in the bad comics list they think we think these are bad webcomics, and since O&M is renowned for being a good comic it discredits us... at least in the eyes of those who do not bother to actually read it, which I suspect is most people. So I am not going to delete them but I am going to make a section for good webcomic reviews in the article section. Hope you're okay with that...[[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 15:21, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== You done with [[Eerie cuties]]? ==<br />
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Tell me when you finish it so U can post about it.[[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 08:08, 26 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Need a reply ==<br />
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:* Yo, I sent you a PM on the forum. Did you see it? I need to know your answer about that. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 18:07, 23 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Yo Tom. I want "bridges" ==<br />
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* I called dibs on it like a year ago. [[File:Busey.png|link= User:Oddguy]] [[User:Oddguy|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:red;font-weight:bold;font-size: 16px">oddguy</span>]] [[File:Busey.png|link= User Talk:Oddguy]] 19:13, 1 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Removing Dume? ==<br />
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*The guy who made [[Dume]] emailed us and asked nicely if we can delete the review. He said he made the comic long ago and just wants to move on. Honestly, the comic is THAT bad... what do you think? I don't mind deleting it but it's your review so I don't wanna do it before I know how you feel about it. [[File:Busey.png|link= User:Oddguy]] [[User:Oddguy|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:red;font-weight:bold;font-size: 16px">oddguy</span>]] [[File:Busey.png|link= User Talk:Oddguy]] 14:09, 12 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== So you're just shoving giant pictures in the center of every article? ==<br />
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* Can you not resize them so that it doesn't look like shit? Why are you even taking entire pages? Just cut out the important part. None of these are interesting or funny. [[File:Busey.png|link= User:Oddguy]] [[User:Oddguy|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:red;font-weight:bold;font-size: 16px">oddguy</span>]] [[File:Busey.png|link= User Talk:Oddguy]] 08:34, 17 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Vandalism ==<br />
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Hey, the page is getting hammered with vandalism and you and Oddguy don't seem to be acting fast enough. Any chance you feel like making an admin out of any other user? If so, I'll gladly help you on cleanup duties. [[User:DentsAndDings|DentsAndDings]] ([[User talk:DentsAndDings|talk]]) 02:34, 3 February 2015 (UTC)</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Sonichu&diff=16536Sonichu2015-02-03T02:31:53Z<p>DentsAndDings: </p>
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{{WComic Infobox<br />
|review author = {{oddguy}}<br />
|webcomic name = [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu+Comic+Collection Sonichu]<br />
|author = [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcville/ Christian Weston "Ricardo" Chandler], AKA "Chris-chan", AKA "C.W.C"<br />
|start date = November 24, 2004, was the date he began drawing the cover of issue 0, although it's unclear when he actually began drawing "Sonichu" comics. Probably sometime in High School.<br />
|end date = On hiatus since May 27, 2010, due to trolls ruining his "inspiration", or possibly because making the comic is too much work (he is unemployed and drawing a page takes him an hour).<br />
|genre = "Adventure"<br />
|flaw = Literally everything<br />
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'''Rating Summary'''<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable" style="width:600px"><br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Art:'''<br />
|[[File:Sonichu-art-review.jpg|100px]]<br>They say autistic people are supposed to be artistically inclined, but I see no evidence of that here. I could draw better than this in the fourth grade, if not sooner.<br />
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|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:Sonichu-storyline-review.jpg|100px]]<br>Most insane crap you will ever read. And yet, not even remotely entertaining.<br />
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|'''Characters:'''<br />
|[[File:Sonichu-characters-review.png|100px]]<br>All the heroes are Mary-Sue Sonic recolors, all the heroines are objects that can talk and only exist to serve as someone's love interest. All the villains are demonized versions of people the creator knows in real life with their actual motivations replaced with: "they hate autistic people and want to stop Chris from finding love".<br />
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|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Sonichu-misc-details-review.jpg|100px]]<br>I wouldn't even know where to start.<br />
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|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Hurtsoul.jpg|100px]]<br>Never in your life will you find something quite as bad and deranged as this. You have my guarantee.<br />
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==Background==<br />
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[[File:Sonichu.jpg|200px|right]]<br />
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Take [[Ctrl+Alt+Del|Tim Buckley's]] attitude, [[So..._You%27re_a_Cartoonist?|Tom Preston's]] "commitment" to criticism, [[Pastel Defender Heliotrope|JDR's]] insanity, [[Powerpuff Girls Doujinshi|Bleedman's]] love of plagiarism, [[Better Days|Jay Naylor's]] political views, and [[Jack|Dave Hopkins']] art skills. Now multiply all those things by a million and you will have Christian Weston Chandler's ''The Adventures of Sonichu And Rosechu'', or as it's also known, ''Sonichu''. Without a doubt <u>'''THE WORST WEBCOMIC EVER'''</u>. Now, some of you may be thinking, "oh, that's just your opinion," but I assure you, it is a fact. <br />
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Before I even start, I think a few preemptive clarifications and apologies are in order. Firstly, I regret to admit that this will not be a comprehensive review. This is simply because addressing every single flaw in this comic and every single public spectacle caused by its creator is an insurmountable task. Even adding links for everything that ''is'' mentioned in this article to the corresponding page is a bit too much. At the moment "Chris-chan" has one of the longest and most convoluted articles ever written on Encyclopedia Dramatica, and there are two entire wikis dedicated to Christian and his comic. The [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Main_Page "CWCki"] contains over 1,300 articles and grows continuously, and the now debunked but still archived [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Main_Page "CWCpedia"] contains an additional 899 articles. There's also a [http://www.youtube.com/user/Asperchu third] [http://web.archive.org/web/20100330094633/http://www.hsienko.com/asperchu/index.php?title=Main_Page (now deleted)] wiki that dealt solely with [http://asperchu.thecomicseries.com/ Asperchu] and the other numerous ''Sonichu'' parodies that once ran rampant and flooded the net and had another 620 articles. Simply listing everything there is to say about the comic and the man who made it without even going into detail about it would '''still''' result in an article at least twice as long as anything else on BWW. So, I would just like to apologize that, unlike other reviews where we attempt to address everything, with ''Sonichu'', I humbly admit that this can not be done. It is impossible to keep up with everything CWC does, let alone catalog it all in a single page. <br />
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My second apology is that, as you can tell from this intro, this review will run a bit long (and it will be picture-heavy because this stuff is just too funny). Like I explained, although I can never mention everything there is to say about this topic, there is still '''A LOT''' to discuss. I will try to shorten it as much as I can, but this comic deserves a review as long as it gets. And the last thing I would like to say I am sorry for is the untimely fashion in which this review has been presented. A ''Sonichu'' review is '''LONG''' overdue. This thing is the worst webcomic in history. It may be the worst piece of art ever made. It goes beyond having no value or merit to the point that it actually does damage to its readers. Reading this thing may very well make you dumber. I regret a review for it was not made sooner when the comic was more relevant. Its thread has been laying dormant since 2009, and even though I know Chris no longer makes as much of a scene when he is insulted online, I still write this review with an almost perverse glee at the thought that he may discover this review and blow yet another shit fit over it.<br />
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So buckle up, get your puke bucket, and get ready to enter the magical world of ''Sonichu''.<br />
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==Why even review this?==<br />
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[[File:Sonichumedallion.jpg|thumb|200px|left]]<br />
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When this comic was brought up on the BWW forums, one of the questions that arose was, "why bother?" This comic is widely regarded as the worst comic ever made. Everything there is to say about it has already been said. All of its flaws are apparent at first glance, so there is really nothing to review. Furthermore, its creator is autistic, so there's no reason to think any criticism will inspire him to improve, and indeed, it hasn't. So why bother even writing a review for something everyone already knows is bad?<br />
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Except for the last point that I will address later in the "Author Biography" section, I would like to explain why I still went ahead and made a review for this thing.<br />
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It's simple: Because no one has ever reviewed this comic. Everything to say about this comic has been said. However, despite it being the most infamously bad webcomic ever to reach the internet, no noteworthy webcomic review site has ever written an article about it. As a person who chooses to document this part of internet culture, and I am speaking not only for the people who write articles for this website, but anyone who has picked up the gauntlet of webcomic reviews (bad or otherwise), and attempt to fill the void left by John Solomon. It is remiss of us to overlook this comic. Everyone and their dog has already said their piece regarding Chris-chan, yet we, the ones who should have been first to approach this, have ignored this literally for years. Us overlooking ''Sonichu'' would be like a chef refusing to use salt. Not having it reviewed on this website is like composing a list of history's greatest thinkers and leaving out Einstein.<br />
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So I know that I am stating the obvious. I know that I am scratching the bottom of the barrel. I know that there's no need to tell anyone this comic is bad. Still, it needs to have an article on this website. Not because I need to convince anyone that it's bad, but simply because it needs an article.<br />
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==Downfall== <br />
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I would like to simply say that this comic was bad from the very beginning, and there is no comic for which this is more true, but that would be taking the easy way out. To be more precise, there are two instances where the comic's quality takes a nose dive like a drunk Olympic swimmer flying a malfunctioning airplane with one wing missing.<br />
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The first comes around [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_2/Page_1 issue two, episode seven], where the focus shifts from the comic's titular character "Sonichu" to Chris-Chan's Mary-Sue self-insert. From then on, the comic becomes a series of deranged payback stories about people who Christian thinks wronged him (most of whom were just doing their jobs), and desperate pleas for sex by way of ham-handed and obvious additions of girls he was interested in (70% trolls, 30% girls who found him repulsive) into the comic. Not to say that those things are not what the comic has always been about, but once the camera swayed away from Sonichu and onto Chris, it became more and more obscene and self-indulgent.<br />
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The second part where the comic cranks the crazy up to 11 is near the end. As the comic was winding down to its inevitable demise, Chris began to become more and more unhinged as a result of constant trolling, and around [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_10/Page_2 issue ten], it descended into full-on lunacy. The last two chapters focused almost exclusively on Chandler's epic journey where he brutally murders all his tormentors [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/thumb/3/3a/SchuComic10P35.jpg/512px-SchuComic10P35.jpg alongside countless innocent civilians]. Most of the last few chapters read like a poorly drawn propaganda pamphlet advocating an anti-gay genocide, as well as a semi-separate one for internet trolls. I say "semi-separate" because, in Chris' mind, all trolls are homosexuals and, therefore, evil (I'm not making this up).<br />
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In other words, this comic begins at a lower starting point than any other and continues to deteriorate in congruence with its author's mental health.<br />
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==Story and Plot==<br />
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[[File:RainbowChris.jpg|thumb|250px|right]]<br />
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This story is the most deranged thing you will ever read. The most amazing thing about it is that there actually is any plot at all. Of course, it does not make a single bit of sense and has so many plot holes that you could paint it yellow and call it SpongeBob, but the fact that there is actually some kind of continuity between chapters is a shock in itself that I could barely recover from. There's some kind of prophecy, people trying to get their hands on <strike>Sonichu's balls<strike> the "Sonichu Balls", some characters disappear and cannot rejoin the plot until they are saved from wherever they are stuck, and everything winds down to a "climactic" final battle where Chris and Sonichu finally get the balls, evolve into their ultimate forms, and go fight all their enemies that have joined into one group to destroy CWCville. The fact Chris is able to remember plot points from past episodes is something I ''still'' can't get over.<br />
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Here is a short summary of as of the story that was relevant to the plot and did not veer off into a psychotic tangent:<br />
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"Sonichu" is about a fictional city (whether Chris realizes this place is not real is actually still up for debate) called CWCville (pronounced "Quickville" somehow...) and founded by Chris-chan's father (who named it after his son who he had not yet conceived) where Chris is the mayor (because that position is handed from father to son with no need for an election). When Sonic the Hedgehog fights a monster on the outskirts of town, he crashes into a Pikachu and it becomes a totally new and "original" character called "Sonichu". This also somehow makes Chris his father. The crash also creates a magical rainbow that sends out eggs all over Virginia, the moon, and the past for some reason, that hatch more <strike>Sonic recolors</strike> original characters.<br />
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That is the set up. The plot is more about Chris himself. It follows his romantic misadventures with girls he knows in real life but whom are only interested in him in the comic and avoid him in real life, and his dealing with pretty much anyone who has ever caused him any kind of perceived injustice. This includes a shop owner who banned him from his store for harassing black children and pretending they stole from him, security guards who threw him out of a number of shops and malls for soliciting sex and harassing young girls, an old school dean who kicked him out of school for soliciting sex, ALL MEN EVER for making it hard for him to find a girlfriend, internet trolls, all homosexuals, all asexuals, and anyone else he finds guilty for his own misfortune and mistakes. In the comic, his actions are portrayed in a far more heroic manner. In ''Sonichu'', all these people are after Chris because they don't want him to lose his virginity, or just hate autistics, and all have magical super powers, as does Chris. Every conflict devolves into a massive superhero fight in which Chris wins and deals out disproportionately cruel punishments to anyone who stands in his way. You know, the way he never could in real life.<br />
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The setting of "CWCvile" is even more ridiculous. [http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sonichu Know Your Meme] describes it as a totalitarian communist state, while [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Webcomic/Sonichu?from=Main.Sonichu TV Tropes] says it's more along the lines of an Orwellian nightmare. I interpret it as a crumbling pseudo-religious dictatorship. If you look, you will see that all the elements are there: a megalomaniacal leader that has inherited his power from his father and has passed on all his administrative duties to his employees (his secretary in the comic does all the work), set up his office at the top of the mall which he cannot enter due to rebel forces (he literally can't get into his own office in his own comic), and is backed by his squad of super powered goons who are, by his decree, above the law and may slaughter all his opponents. There is only one [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/KCWC government-sponsored radio station] that plays 24/7 pro-Chris propaganda, all of Chris' opposition are demonized in the press, and in the comic itself, and are either killed or executed after mock trials. All citizens are constantly monitored by the secret police [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Magi-Chan (Magi-Chan)] in all aspects, including sexual activity (gay sex is not allowed in CWCville), and all tobacco and alcohol is forbidden.<br />
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All of this is just the beginning. I wrote three paragraphs without even getting into any of the actual plot points. Like Chris' search for a "boyfriend-free girl", [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/0/01/SchuComic10P09.jpg God and Jesus (or "GodJesus" as Chris once called them) descending from the heavens to tell some girl Chris hardly knew she should be his girlfriend], [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Crystal_Weston_Chandler_%28sister%29 Chris making himself an imaginary twin sister], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_2/Page_2 CHRIS GETTING MAGICAL SONICHU SUPER POWERS FROM HIS NATIVE AMERICAN ANCESTORS], etc.<br />
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You want more crazy shit? Read the comic. Or don't.<br />
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... Yeah, don't.<br />
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==Art review==<br />
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[[File:GoKickHisAss.jpg|thumb|500px|center]]<br />
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The art looks like Chris drew it without using his hands. He was once quoted saying that it takes him an hour to make one page, and he uses pencils, sharpies, and crayons. In a normal comic, I would have to pick and choose what is the best panel to use for me to showcase the flaws in the art, but in this one, I don't even know where to start. I am just going to pick a page at random.<br />
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Let's see... issue 9, page 82...<br />
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[[File:SchuComic9P81.jpg|thumb|400px|center|<center>Oh my! It's a doozy!</center>]]<br />
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In this one, the guy in the upper left corner is [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Liquid Ian Brandon Anderson], which in real life was the name trolls called the real Chris when someone else impersonated him for a while, despite not looking anything like him. This was still more than enough to make Chris rage. In the comic, Ian has just been murdered by Sonichu, and is being taken to Hell by devil trolls as punishment for not being nice to Chris, after which Sonichu is confronted by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Eggman Dr. Ivo Robotnik], [http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/Giovanni Giovanni from Pokémon], and his son, who are holding Rosechu hostage with the help of a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decepticon Decepticon].<br />
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[[File:best_mall.jpg|thumb|350px|right|<center>''BEST FUCKING MALL '''EVER!!!!'''''</center>]]<br />
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But enough about what's going on and onto the art. What is there to say? You have eyes, don't you? You see it. None of the characters look like who they are supposed to be, nothing is consistent, the background has a habit of disappearing without explanation (as well as characters' entire bodies whenever Chris gets too lazy, leaving them with nothing but a floating head), and Eggman's nose looks like a penis. The art fits the story like a shit encrusted glove. If you pay attention, you will also notice that "Rosechu" is a dead ringer for Amy Rose. [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/7/72/E1p35.jpg At one point in the comic, they meet and it is impossible to tell who is who.]<br />
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Oh, and did you know that Chris also has a degree in [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/CADD "Computer-Aided Drafting and Design"]? What have you done with ''your'' life?! But spending six years getting this degree (it was a two year course) still did not seem to help him at all. Not even a fully sentient super computer from the future like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_9000 HAL 9000] could help Chris with his drafting and design. Even more hilariously, whenever someone makes a parody of his comic, he criticizes it on the quality of its art, claiming it is not as good as his.<br />
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==Writing review== <br />
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[[File:Thw world.jpg|thumb|250px|left|<center>"''Go Magi! Go out into '''thw''' world!''"</center>]]<br />
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There is a typo on the very first page. "Our story begins in a open field five '''''mies''''' from the city of Station Square" and all text is written in ALL CAPS Comic Sans. That's not enough? I think that says it all. <br />
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Fine. Read on. <br />
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First, the characters. I grow tired of how often I have to say this but: there are no characters in ''Sonichu'', not really. I read somewhere that ''Sonichu'' has 136 characters, yet not a single one of them has a personality. They are all a bunch of identical Sonic recolor Mary-Sues, with their leader "Sonichu" being the penultimate Mary-Sue. He is second only to Chris-chan himself, who in the comic possesses all the powers of all his characters (making them obsolete), alongside his own powers, which only grow stronger when he transforms into "Chris-Chan Sonichu" and then again at some point into "Colossus Sonichu" which literally gives him unlimited godlike powers that allow him to warp reality as he sees fit and [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/f/f9/SchuComic10P61.jpg causes the cast to momentarily consider worshiping him as if he was a god]. He declines this offer (well, he writes the story so actually he made that offer to himself) although it seems pretty obvious that he thinks his characters (again, there is a possibility he thinks they are real) <del>should</del> worship him, and only declines because it may be blasphemous. Yes, Chris is very religious despite not understanding the Bible at all, and possibly not fully understanding who Jesus even is. But getting back to the point, the irony in this story is amazing because it actually expects us to root for Chris. In most Mary-Sue comics, the protagonist is impossibly virtuous while the villains are laughably evil. And Chris must think that this is also the case with his own comic (not understanding that even this would be very flawed writing), but in reality the comic shows him going around committing all kinds of atrocities like killing, maiming, and attempting to break up relationships for his own selfish reasons, and the villains seem like heroes trying to stop him.<br />
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[[File:Mach punch.jpg|thumb|250px|right|<center>"''Sonichu <del>punches</del> <b>MACH PUNCHES</b> an old lady''"</center>]]<br />
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The comic is an insane revenge fantasy to end all insane revenge fantasies. What's more, this is all only compounded by the fact it makes no goddamn sense! Chris poorly attempts to present his horrible actions favorably by morphing them into even more horrible ones, and all the while confusing the audience further by hinting, nay, ''screaming'' at them that he is the hero of this story. Mix that with the fact this comic follows no logic and you get something so nonsensical that it makes your eyes cross (time travel arcs and [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Retcon retcons] don't help either) and the result is a mix of unintentionally hilarious and mindbogglingly stupid.<br />
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Going into detail about every kind of flaw this comic's writing has would take two eternities. So instead I give you<br />
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'''<u>ODDGUY'S TOP 15 MOST INSANE MOMENTS IN ''SONICHU''.</u>'''<br />
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'''<u>15. The "Anchuent" Prophesy.</u>'''<br />
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Some of you may wonder where Chris gets his super powers in the comic. Surprisingly, this is actually explained. Unsurprisingly, the explanation is retarded. In the comic he comes across a cave guarded by... some guy... who tells him that he is the chosen one from the <strike>ancient</strike> '''Anchuent''' prophecy foretold by the Cherokee Indians, and gives him his magic Sonichu medallion (that Chris wears in real life... ALL THE TIME!) that allows him to transform into "Chris-Chan Sonichu". But it doesn't end there; Chris' Native American ancestor also gives power to his wife's descendant, who just happens to be some childhood friend of Chris, who has been avoiding him for years after she grew up and he remained at the mental age he was when they met each other in preschool. And finally, he also gives powers to the future relative of his mortal enemy from the opposing Native American clan. Who were the Cherokee's historical rivals? Why, the "Wasabi Clan" of course! And who is their leader's living next of kin? That girl's boyfriend, against whom Chris holds a grudge for letting her sit on his lap in front of him...<br />
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In the comic the girl fights her evil boyfriend and punishes him for hurting Chris' feelings. In reality, she has long ago cut all connections from Chris for being creepy and obsessive about her (probably only because he thought she might eventually sleep with him) and didn't give a shit about his feelings.<br />
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'''<u>14. Wedding Bust.</u>'''<br />
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This saga continued when Chris found out this girl is getting married. He drew a comic in which her old boyfriend crashes the wedding and attempts to kidnap her, but is then defeated by Chris using ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yu-Gi-Oh! Yu-Gi-Ho!]'' cards and returned to her husband, who is inexplicably a ''Yu-Gi-Ho!'' monster.<br />
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In reality, Chris was not invited to the wedding, and the guy who in the comic attempts to kidnap her had long since forgotten about some girl he briefly dated in high school and couldn't care less about her upcoming wedding. The one who didn't forget about her was Chris. The one who couldn't let her go despite her never reciprocating his feelings was Chris. And the one she would have had to have been saved from, had he attended the wedding, is once again Chris.<br />
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'''<u>13. Sweet, Pure Angelica.</u>'''<br />
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One of the comic's endless supply of Sonic recolors is "Angelica". Left at the doorstep of a monastery and raised by nuns, she gets her flying powers directly from God, for which she shows her gratitude by [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/6/65/SchuComic9P32.jpg having sex in the church with a Pokemon.]<br />
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[[File:Thatdirtywhore.jpg|thumb|500px|center|<center>''That dirty whore.''</center>]]<br />
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'''<u>12. The Brown Note.</u>'''<br />
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Chris' arch-nemesis is the polar opposite of himself. Well, actually, for that to be true, he would have to be intelligent, charming and attractive. In actuality he is the antithesis of what Chris ''thinks'' of himself. In other words: An evil gay guy who likes Xbox. And in the same way Chris has his ultimate attack, the "Curse-ye-ha-me-ha", which inflicts its victim with unreasonably bad luck (like causing the mall guard that tossed Chris out to have his wife leave him and take the house and kids), and which Chris has attempted to use on people in real life on several occasions, so does his enemy have an ultimate attack: The "Qee-fee-mea-mo-bo-bo", which unlike the "Curse-ye-ha-me-ha", doesn't delve out bad luck, but rather "humiliation". How does this work? When he attempted to destroy Chris with it, it was deflected back onto him, causing him to poop and piss his pants.<br />
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[[File:Shitsself.jpg|thumb|250px|center|<center>''Yes, make him shit himself. That will stop his army of giant robots.''</center>]]<br />
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'''<u>11. The Return Of "Pattie".</u>'''<br />
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In one of the only displays of honest emotion not motivated by the prospect of personal gain in the comic, and maybe all of Chris' life, Chris revives his recently-deceased dog "Pattie" and sends her off to live in CWCville. Their heartfelt goodbye stops just short of them making out.<br />
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[[File:Pattiekiss.jpg|thumb|250px|center|<center>''JEFF! OH MY GOD!''</center>]]<br />
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'''<u>10. Chris Beats An Elderly Woman And Then Harasses A Handicapped Person... Oops, Wait, That's The Same Lady.</u>'''<br />
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Chris finally confronts his archnemesis, Mary Lee Walsh, in a climactic final battle. During said battle, she explains her motivation for dedicating her life to preventing Chris from getting laid is that she is [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P74.jpg an old, ugly hag who no one could ever love] (remember, this is a real person.) Then Chris and Sonichu beat her, [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P77.jpg paralyze her], and send the 60 year old handicapped woman to a maximum security prison.<br />
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[[File:Storytime.jpg|thumb|500px|center|<center>''Chris is so touched by her heartbreaking story that he <strike>forgives her for all her transgressions against him and lets her go</strike> beats the crap out of her.''</center>]]<br />
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'''<u>9. Sexy Time With Shadow.</u>'''<br />
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An evil, shape-shifting, hermaphrodite Rosechu (the female counterpart of the Sonichu breed) sets out to destroy Chris and co. How does she plan to do this? By transforming into each of the characters' significant others (everyone in "Sonichu" MUST have a girlfriend due to CWC's own fixation on finding one) and sleeping with them for no good reason. But her plan goes awry when she is impersonating Blachu to have gay sex with Bubbles-Rosechu and cannot replicate his electric attack which [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic8P90.jpg he uses on her for her sexual pleasure]... Oh, by the way, according to Chris, this is a children's comic.<br />
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'''<u>8. Chris Takes A Stand For Women's Rights... But Mostly For Himself...</u>'''<br />
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In one particularly insane saga, the characters discover that they are being drawn as either gay or pre-op transgenders on 4Chan. The stupidity escalates when Rosechu posts naked pictures of herself on 4Chan ("4Cents-garbage" as it is named in the comic) to prove she is "all woman" in what has to be the most un-arousing case of fanservice in the history of webcomics, only to have a penis photoshopped onto her on the site. She then goes to confront the the owner of 4Chan. At this point it becomes evident that Chris does not realize that 4Chan and Encyclopedia Dramatica are not the same site, and that the person who wrote the article about him does not own either one. They go to the top of the 4Chan tower (haha... m00t wishes), where Satan himself is an employee, and after [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/3/38/SchuComic8P35.jpg giving a long speech about forgiveness], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic8P30.jpg implying that not trolling Chris is the will of God himself], she takes all her clothes off and beats him unconscious by shoving her vagina in his face.<br />
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[[File:Facerape.jpg|thumb|250px|center|<center>''Yes! Get naked and stick your vagina in his face! That will teach him not to objectify women!''</center>]]<br />
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<u>Bonus Points:</u><br />
* This is all meant to be some kind of stand for women's lib.<br />
* The issue also includes detailed diagrams of the Sonichu reproductive system and explanation of their sexual habits.<br />
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'''<u>7. The End Of 4Chan.org</u>'''<br />
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Chris sets out to destroy the 4Chan tower by rocking out (seriously), which is even more hilarious because he does so with a [http://i.imgur.com/xppsE.jpg "Guitar Hero" Wii-mote]. Two of the main trolls escape, one of whom denounces trolling because he is straight (since trolling and heterosexuality are mutually exclusive), and leaves Clyde Cash and Jack, two of Chris' trolls, to their fate. The two choose to commit suicide rather than face the wrath of Chris (again, I'm serious). So the two hold hands and leap to their death, in a genuinely touching display that ironically could easily be used for advocating gay rights against persecution.<br />
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[[File:Votefordeath.jpg|thumb|350px|center|<center>''I swear, I actually choked up a bit when reading this part.''</center>]]<br />
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<u>Bonus Points:</u><br />
* The building's collapse kills hundreds of innocent people whose only crime was working there. (I'm not speculating; [http://i.imgur.com/KAfze.jpg Chris explains this.])<br />
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'''<u>6. Black Street.</u>'''<br />
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[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_10/Page_71 Sonichu meets a sick, black, homeless, drug-addicted, Jamaican war veteran living in a dumpster on the street.]<br />
[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P72.jpg Sonichu calls the police.]<br />
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'''<u>5. Animal Abuse? Child Abuse? You Decide.</u>'''<br />
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[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic3P8.jpg An egg, carrying yet another Sonic ripoff, lands in a dojo run by an Excel Saga ripoff, and hatches.] The dojo owner's daughter is enraged by the infant's insolence of daring to be born in her father's presence, and challenges the literally seconds-old newborn to a fight. She proceeds to brutally rip off the baby's tail, at which point he evolves into an offensive, Asian racial stereotype version of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knuckles_the_Echidna Knuckles], and uses his spiked fist to punch her into outer space. The dojo owner [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic3P9.jpg rewards him for murdering his daughter by making him his student.]<br />
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'''<u>4. Special School Massacre.</u>'''<br />
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The comic's main villain, an old school dean who once expelled Chris for good reason, is, in the comic, an evil witch who uses a brain-control ray to transform the inhabitants of CWCville into her slaves (read: mall guards). Chris explains to the audience that this ray only works on the [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic4P55.jpg "slow-in-mind"]. Hilarity ensues when you realize this means that whenever Sonichu and friends fight Mary Lee's minions, they are actually beating through wave after wave of the mentally handicapped.<br />
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[[File:Punchythehero.jpg|thumb|300px|center|<center>''<strike>Knuckles</strike> um, I mean '''Punchy''' CWCville's hero, beating up a group of helpless retards.''</center>]]<br />
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<u>Bonus Points:</u><br />
* Since Chris is autistic, he himself should be susceptible to the ray's power. <br />
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'''<u>3. Alec's Rape Extravaganza!</u>'''<br />
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Christian transforms into his most Mary-Sueist of Mary-Sue versions, and goes off to fight Alec Benson Leary (one of the creators of the [http://asperchu.thecomicseries.com/ "Asperchu"] parody) and save his spoofs of the Sonichu characters from a fate worse than death. I.E: having Asperger's Syndrome (which Chris hates... long story) with which Alec had "infected" them, as if it is some kind of venereal disease. Afterwards he saves an additional 4 ripoff characters of his own making, under the claim that Alec has been keeping them in his basement and raping them (in the case of one of them, to the point of death.)<br />
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'''<u>2. The "Simonchu" Fiasco.</u>'''<br />
<br />
Chris had a lot of fights with trolls, but this is the one I personally found most amusing in its show of irony and hypocrisy on Chris' part.<br />
The story in short is that Chris [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Evan stole a troll fan character], [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Simonla_Rosechu changed its gender], and refused to remove it from the comic. First because denying one of his characters of its girlfriend would be cruel, and then because he "could have come up with it himself" even though he didn't. He continued to refuse until the trolls began to hold CWCpedia hostage (which he still doesn't realize was intended to mock him) at which point he agreed to kill off the character, which he did [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P82.jpg with an exploding toilet.] Only to have it immediately replaced by her identical clone daughter, who then executes her original creator after he is found guilty in a mock trial of not allowing Chris to steal his character and sentenced to death for it. The two week old girl [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P92.jpg drills off his arms and legs, then uses a drill to castrate him, and finally electrocutes him to death] together with her father.<br />
<br />
<u>Bonus points:</u><br />
* He is also found guilty of trying to assassinate Chris by dropping a massive, hanging TV screen Chris was using to broadcast a speech. He aimed to do this by hanging off the ceiling ''"Mission Impossible"'' style, and [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P80.jpg cutting the steel chains with a pair of household scissors.]<br />
* The chapter alternates in between the troll's unfair trial and Chris' mayoral speech in which he apologizes to them for his own wrongdoings. So we get to see Chris telling this person he is sorry for stealing his character, while he is simultaneously executing him for it.<br />
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{| style="margin: 1em auto 1em auto; color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|+<b>The "Simonchu" Saga In A Nutshell.</b><br />
|-<br />
|<center>'''Evan's brilliant plan'''</center><br />
|-<br />
|<center>[[File:Evans plan.jpg|center]]</center><br />
|-<br />
|<center>'''The plaintiff's initials being inscribed on the judge's stand is always a good sign you are about to have a fair trial'''</center><br />
|-<br />
|[[File:Cwc judge.jpg|center]]<br />
|-<br />
|<center>'''GUILTY X4!!!!'''</center><br />
|-<br />
|[[File:Guilty 4x.jpg|center]]<br />
|-<br />
|<center>'''All good reasons to kill a bunch of guys'''</center><br />
|-<br />
|[[File:Reasons to kill.jpg|center]]<br />
|-<br />
|<center>'''THE END'''</center><br />
|}<br />
<br />
'''<u>1. I AM NOT HOMOPHOBIC!!! NOW WATCH ME KILL ALL THESE GAY PEOPLE!!!</u>'''<br />
<br />
Chris travels to the future to find out that his blood is the cure for homosexuality (stop laughing, there's more). He fight his nemesis, who is the opposite of himself, and therefore ultra-super-gay and also evil, and injects him with his blood, <strike>giving him AIDS<strike> curing him of gayness. Then he floods the world's water supply with <strike>the cure<strike> his blood and rids the world of homos.<br />
<br />
<u>Bonus points:</u><br />
* He cures gays in the present with a cure he got from the future, thereby destroying the thing for which the cure was created before it was made and creating a time paradox.<br />
* He somehow fills 50 Mack trucks with his own blood.<br />
* Despite curing all the homos (and asexuals, who he also hates for some reason) in a later chapter gays still exists and are being monitored by Chris and thrown in jail for being gay.<br />
* Since a vaccine is made out of a weakened or dead version of the virus, for Chris' blood to be the cure for gayness he would have to be the most gay person to have ever lived.<br />
* The comic ends with CWC commemorating his victory over trolls and gays (who are one and the same) by creating a new holiday: "Christian Love Day". Which ironically celebrates mass murder and genocide.<br />
<br />
==Author Biography== <br />
[[File:sooo_offended.jpg|thumb|400px|center|<center>''Chris' reaction to anything written about him on the internet.''</center>]]<br />
<br />
What can I say about Chris Chan that has not already been said about terminal cancer? Well, for one thing, be it by miraculous recovery or the sweet release of death, the misery caused by cancer ends at some point. Whereas Christian's antics seem like they intend to continue for the rest of eternity. In October 2011 he was arrested for [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/28_October_2011 his second attempt at vehicular homicide] [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Michael_Snyder against a video game shop owner who had banned him from the store three years beforehand, and who he (wrongly) believes is Jewish.] In February 2012 he lost his virginity at the age of 30 after years of stalking and sexually harassing girls at the local mall (I have been told by a credible source that this was done with the help of a prostitute.) His behavior is so demented that things he has done that would have made any normal person a laughingstock for the rest of his life almost flew under the radar when he did it. "Encyclopedia Dramatica" spent years documenting his antics until they finally just gave up. His exploits also include [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Twin_Falling_Towers denigrating the memory of 9/11 to mock a troll], [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Blackface shooting a youtube video in blackface,] [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Fanta#Fanta:_Semen_Flavor drinking his own semen], cheating at a contest intended for children, racism, misogyny, anti-Semitism, death threats, homophobia, crossdressing, sexual harassment, attempt at murder, and the list goes on and on (excuse me but I just can't add links anymore). At the moment he holds the place for second most hated webcomic artist ever, second only to Buckley, because everyone knows he has autism, whereas with Buckley, we can only assume.<br />
<br />
This brings me to the main part of this section: His autism.<br />
<br />
Many people think that all criticism of Christian is cruel due to his condition, and in part I agree. But it's important to remember he has mild autism. Leaked medical documents say that there isn't really that much wrong with him... Or at least there shouldn't be. So how do I explain all of this? Well, people often forget that those inflicted with these kinds of conditions are not identical clones that step off a factory conveyor belt. They each have their own personalities, and Christian's is the worst. His parents aren't helpful in that aspect, either. Let me put it this way: Have you ever seen the movie ''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117666/ "Sling Blade"]''? Well, you should have. Do you remember the scene where Walter tells the psychiatrist how his parents kept him in the shed because "they didn't want him in the house with the rest of 'em"? This is sort of the same. Once they understood their child has autism, Bob and Barbara Chandler abandoned all expectations of him and resolved to just buy him whatever he wants and do whatever he wants as long as it will keep him out of their hair and thereby turning him into the selfish, ego-driven manchild that he is today. What I'm saying is this: People with autism can live normal lives. They can get jobs, get married, have kids. I am not saying it's easy, but with dedication and attention from the people around them, they can grow to be contributing members of society. Other autistics HATE Chris-chan. Many have made videos begging people not to get the wrong idea about them because of what Chris does. I honestly believe that had he not been born that way he may not have been so susceptible to being fooled by trolls or so quick to humiliate himself, but he would have still been the same awful person.<br />
<br />
I feel sorry for Chris. I understand he can't control part of what he does, but that can't be his excuse for everything.<br />
<br />
==Conclusion==<br />
<br />
Do not read this comic.<br />
<br />
Unless you are doing it purely for the spectacle of it you have nothing to gain from it. In any other comic, I would tell people to check it out only so you could learn what mistakes you should avoid. But in this case there is no point. There is not a single mistake here that you could not sidestep by using the most basic of common sense. What could you possibly learn from this? Don't draw yourself murdering people you dislike with super powers? Don't upload drawings of yourself having sex with a girl you are romantically pursuing onto troll sites? Don't use your real name when buying anal beads online? I think you can all figure these things on your own.<br />
<br />
This comic tops the chart in every criteria this website uses to gauge the value of its review subjects. The worst art, most awful writing, most insane plot, biggest Mary-Sue characters ever, craziest and most insufferable author...<br />
<br />
In short:<br />
This truly is the worst comic ever made. Yes, even worse than [[Billy the Heretic]], atrocious as ''that'' was.<br />
<br />
==Massive Chris-Chan Link Dump:==<br />
<br />
[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu_Comic_Collection Archive Of The Comic Itself.]<br />
<br />
[["Sonichu Finale" Interview|Our Interview with Sonichu Finale's artist Harry Manzinni.]]<br />
<br />
<br />
Chris has about a million other, dead accounts on every website imaginable. I will not be adding links to them here. Find them on your own.<br />
<br />
'''<u>Articles.</u>'''<br />
<br />
* [http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sonichu Know Your Meme "Sonichu" Article.]<br />
* [http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/chris-chancwcchristian-weston-chandler Know Your Meme "Chris-Chan" Article.]<br />
* [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Webcomic/Sonichu?from=Main.Sonichu TV Tropes "Sonichu" Article.]<br />
* [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/CreatorBreakdown/Webcomics Mentioned in TV Tropes article about webcomic artists who had a massive meltdown.]<br />
* [http://ohinternet.com/Chris-chan Ohi Article on "Chris-Chan".]<br />
* [http://ohinternet.com/Sonichu Ohi Article On "Sonichu".]<br />
* [http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Christian_Weston_Chandler Uncyclopedia CWC article.]<br />
* [http://www.cracked.com/funny-3956-chris-chan/ Cracked Chris-chan article.]<br />
* [http://heavy.com/comedy/2010/07/the-20-worst-internet-losers/4/ Chris ranks #1 in article of top 20 internet losers.]<br />
<br />
'''<u>Parodies.</u>'''<br />
<br />
* [http://asperchu.thecomicseries.com/ "Asperchu".] - Ironically, this is actually one of the best comics I have read.<br />
* [http://hcandersen.deviantart.com/ "Sonichu Unleashed".] - A few of the creators of "Asperchu" are trying to get to comic going again.<br />
* [http://gabmonteiro9389.deviantart.com/gallery/24330410 "Sonichu Remake".] - An actually GOOD artists redraws "Sonichu".<br />
* [http://sonichufinale.canalblog.com/ "Sonichu: Finally".] - Yet another parody. The rest of it is [http://harrymanzinni.deviantart.com/gallery/ here].<br />
:: We also have [["Sonichu Finale" Interview|an interview with the artist]].<br />
* [http://depositfiles.com/files/k59r18li3 "Moon Pals".] - Thought to have been lost but one of us found a downloadable archive.<br />
* [http://web.archive.org/web/20091212082041/http://sonichuisgay.thecomicseries.com/comics/1/ An archived version of "Sonichu is Gay".] - A spin-off of asperchu.<br />
* [http://web.archive.org/web/20090923011746/http://sonichu.thecomicseries.com/ An archived version of "Sonichu is Dead".] - Another spin-off of asperchu.<br />
* [http://imgur.com/fWC2lw3,1B7ulIl,GIIC5w1,eu84mkL,5eeYSx1,aNUzCR8,7eoGNbq,53ilnRW,i6xiNk6,3FirXzm,lrcSkRr,oQHqVSK,CYo0pA6,3ZTtGWC Temporarily here]<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPeAkOtu2Oo A video of the seven strips of "Capering Berries".] - A parody mocking the Simonchu fiasco.<br />
<br />
<br />
<s>All other parody works are not worth mentioning. I was also able to contact the creator of "Simonchu". He did not want to comment, but he did say that he did not keep any copies of it or "Moon Pals" (another parody) and doesn't know if anyone has.</s><br />
<br />
'''<u>More Funny Pictures From The Comic I Couldn't Figure Out How To Work Into The Review.</u>'''<br />
<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/zBtl8.jpg Sonichu is Chris' only friend.] - )':<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/DQqHb.jpg I don't know why.] - But this is just hilarious to me.<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/lsxjt.jpg This just looks like he's throwing urine at some guy.]<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/HszYC.jpg Almost twincest.] - So this is where Naylor got this from...<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/lir2r.jpg Chris transforms into hideous mutant.] - Or at least more so than usual...<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/pCYdw.jpg Ignore all the hilariously ironic text.] - And focus instead on the fact that Rosechu is eating a wrench.<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/iUMEV.jpg Porno?] - Rosechu says: [http://lovablelabelsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/fonz1.jpg "AYEEE!!!"]<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/FQ1ta.jpg 1] [http://i.imgur.com/x6nEM.jpg 2],[http://i.imgur.com/DPvkz.jpg 3],[http://i.imgur.com/zbH3v.jpg 4],[http://i.imgur.com/GxexT.jpg 5] - Pictures where Chris equates either himself or Sonichu to god, or implies that fulfilling his desires is the lords will.<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/mZkHy.jpg 1],[http://i.imgur.com/13oQU.jpg 2] - Pictures where Chris implies that fulfilling his will is the American way... So strange how often those things seem to coincide.<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/O5uJo.jpg 1],[http://i.imgur.com/1f0UQ.jpg 2],[http://i.imgur.com/ipxai.jpg 3] - Sonichu's anti gay hate speeches and [http://i.imgur.com/MRjqO.jpg apology]. Followed by Chris exterminating all homosexuals.<br />
<br />
'''<u>Other.</u>'''<br />
<br />
* [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Main_Page "CWCki".] - A wiki about Chris.<br />
* [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Main_Page Archived Version Of "CWCpedia".] - The other wiki about Chris.<br />
* [http://web.archive.org/web/20100330094633/http://www.hsienko.com/asperchu/index.php?title=Main_Page Asperpedia.] - Can only be seen using Web Archive anymore.<br />
* [http://annotatedsonichu.tumblr.com/ "Sonichu" Mock Tumblr.]<br />
* [http://fuckwhychrischan.tumblr.com/ Other "Sonichu" Tumblr.]<br />
* [http://twitter.com/Sonichu1 "Sonichu" twitter.]<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/user/CWCAnimatedLibrary "Sonichu" - The Animated Series.]<br />
* <strike>"Sonichu" Audiobooks. Deleted days before I finished this review.</strike> [http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL12A55E9C82971031&feature=plcp&fb_source=message Someone made a backup!]<br />
* [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/A_Girl_Who_Brought_Down_the_World#The_original_text "A Girl Who Brought Down The World".] - An entire book made by the same person who made the audiobooks and sent to Chris. He never read it, gave it to his minister for Christmas, asked the girl who made it to pay the mailing fees, and finally sent her YouTube death threats.<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsDdXHQbXsc Webcomic Relief on YouTube] also has a review of ''Sonichu''.<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdGujEC2Xx8 Webcomic Relief on YouTube] has more to say about it.<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQEs2BcbcM And more...]<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8v1J8ZZf_w and more...]<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkCpdU3EYe4 and more...]<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlMlL9zXwag and more...]<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxTaIO1PINw and more...]<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23qcd14SpT8 and more...but I think I'll stop it here.]<br />
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[[Category:Abandoned]]<br />
[[Category:Webcomics]]</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=The_Adventures_of_Kanira_Baxter&diff=14396The Adventures of Kanira Baxter2015-02-02T00:00:24Z<p>DentsAndDings: </p>
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<div>{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Original review author:'''<br />
|[[User:oddguy|oddguy]]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Webcomic name:'''<br />
|[http://kanirabaxter.comicgenesis.com/ The Adventures of Kanira Baxter]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Author:'''<br />
| [http://www.youtube.com/user/BionicDance/videos Kate "BionicDance" Fahr]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Start Date:'''<br />
| July 2, 2009<br />
|-<br />
|'''End Date:'''<br />
| January 2, 2011 <br />
|-<br />
|'''Genre:'''<br />
| Space Opera<br />
|-<br />
|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
|It's a three-way tie between the dull writing, the go-nowhere plot, and the god-awful "art" that makes any chance of salvaging any of this impossible.<br />
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'''Rating Summary'''<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable" style="width:600px"><br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Art:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
"Kanira Baxter" takes lazy 3D model posing to a new low.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
Bounty hunters in space... [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboy_Bebop where have I heard that one before?]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Characters:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
Besides the lead no one has any character to speak of and the lead is the kind of character you can only speak of using a copious amount of expletives.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
The creator is a militant YouTube atheist. That should tell you everything you need to know.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
Who knew space adventures can be so boring?<br />
|}<br />
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<br />
==Background==<br />
<br />
I looked into this comic after two unrelated people separately contacted me to draw my attention to it and asked my opinion/inform me of how bad it is. This is not the first time someone who knows me online has attempted to point me in the direction of a comic they don't like and go: "Get him boy!" like I am their internet attack dog. And when this happens I usually write it off as some sort of personal grudge and don't bother. But seeing as how two people felt the need to contact me, I figured this must actually be review worthy material. And so it was.<br />
<br />
<br />
==Downfall==<br />
<br />
The comic already starts off at a low point with one of the most unexciting action scenes I have ever seen. It looks like it was meant to set the tone for the rest of the comic as a fast-paced action/adventure, but manages to do the exact opposite and sets the tone as a boring exposition dump seasoned with outdated 80's slang.<br />
<br />
<br />
==Story and Plot==<br />
<br />
[[File:20090813.jpg|thumb|right|300px|The cast consists of a lot of the same guy wearing different clothes and Kanira's dad looks like a woman with a mustache]]<br />
<br />
I usually avoid giving a synopsis of the entire plot because I always feel that is a poor way to write a review. However, this time I am going to just go ahead and spoil the entire thing, start to finish, because that is really the best way to describe what is wrong with this comic.<br />
<br />
So the comic starts with the spaceship "The White Knight" receiving a communicate regarding a hostage situation that needs their expertise as an extraction team. They go in, have a gunfight, rescue the hostages, and move on. Then they are requested to make a little detour and check on a small colony that hasn't been responding to the radio for a while. They land and find that the entire population has disappeared with no trace or explanation, and the colony itself has been infested with a strange algae... What a mystery! What happened to these people? Where did they go? Are they dead? Were they abducted? Will we ever find out? Nope.<br />
<br />
A prisoner they picked up on the previous mission escapes, gets eaten by a giant crab, they discover virtually nothing about what had happened, and leave. On the way home, they find out that because the guy was killed they might not get paid, go to the person who commissioned the job, argue with him, and then go on vacation. There Kanira is propositioned by her old professor who tells her he will pay her to explore planets in between missions. He sends a science officer to join the crew whom they [http://kanirabaxter.comicgenesis.com/d/20091215.html treat like shit for no reason], and then they go off on a mission to catch scavengers who steal discarded spaceships. On the way there Kanira bickers with her second in command, [http://kanirabaxter.comicgenesis.com/d/20091224.html telling her she is open to criticism as long as no one ever disagrees with her in any way]. This solidifies her image as a massive cunt. They spot some thieves trying to steal an abandoned ship and disable their engines. After the thieves refuse to surrender, Kanira [http://kanirabaxter.comicgenesis.com/d/20100313.html gives the order to blow them the fuck up]. The fact they are immobile and Kanira could have easily called the police matters not, because summary execution is a completely justifiable punishment for stealing scrap metal.<br />
<br />
While they are in the space junkyard, they see an old ship that they recognize as a lost spacecraft that carried settlers meant to find a new home for humanity that went missing centuries ago. They board it and find a single, crazy survivor. Despite the plot's resemblance to the movie [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphere_(film) "Sphere"] combined with about a dozen others, it is a pretty curious turn of events. Who is this person? Where did the rest of them go? What were the people of this ship doing for 300 years, cut off from all other human life? Will they ever find out? Will we ever know the truth.....? NOPE!<br />
<br />
Kanira calls the space agency, argues with them about how she will be getting paid, and leaves. She is contacted by the man who didn't pay her for her first job, and he asks her to help save his girlfriend from kidnappers on another planet. She agrees and the crew flies there while laughing about what kind of sad loser would date that guy that they don't like. When they get there, they discover that both the hostages and the criminals have been eaten alive by alien plants, and contact their employer to break the news. How does Kanira do this? By mocking his grief and lashing out at him for getting angry at her for letting the person he loved die an excruciating death. But he screwed them out of some money, so he obviously deserves to be told to go fuck himself for showing emotion over the death of a loved one.<br />
<br />
But when Kanira wasn't busy insulting people who are in mourning she also had time to discover a sentient, alien species that [http://kanirabaxter.comicgenesis.com/d/20100912.html looks somewhat like giant, penis-shaped walking turnips] that communicates through telepathy. She immediately abandons bounty-hunting to dedicate her life to continuing the exploration of one of the most important discoveries in human history and....... noooooooooooope!<br />
<br />
She hops back on her spaceship and continues to the next mission. The crew go on to seek out a hidden criminal in an underwater space colony. While there they meet a woman who's sister has gone missing and volunteer to help locate her. Not much of a mystery but at least they can get to the bottom of this one... right?... RIGHT?!<br />
<br />
Nope. The creator's computer broke and she couldn't be bothered to reinstall the program she was making the comic with so she just let it die.<br />
<br />
[[File:20110101.jpg|thumb|center|700px|I beg to differ.]]<br />
<br />
I think you see the problem here yourself. The story builds up to an event that on its own could easily be a jump-off point to an entire new series, then just abandons it and moves on to the next chapter. While they are out stopping petty crimes they make earth-shattering discoveries and just ignore them. It's so moronic that it is almost funny.<br />
<br />
<br />
==Art review==<br />
<br />
[[File:20091121.jpg|thumb|left|300px]]<br />
<br />
Jesus fucking Christ. I am not the first person to think up the joke of putting the word "art" in quotes when talking about something that is really bad. Nor is this even the first review on this site to do so. However, there are few cases where this insult is more apt.<br />
<br />
This really isn't art. All Kate has done is make a bunch of ugly 3D models and pose them, which is the worst possible way to make a comic and I would like to explain why. This is a problem shared by each and every one of the webcomics we have reviewed that use this method. Besides the fact that all these programs are completely amateurish (or perhaps just all of the artist's skills are sub-par; I wouldn't know because I never used one) and the models are just ugly, is the problem that these programs were not meant for making comics. Three dimensional software like this is made to make animation.<br />
<br />
Here is the difference between animation and comics- Animation moves and drawings are meant to convey the illusion of movement (yes, I know 3D animation also only creates the illusion of movement, but you know what I mean). This is why this does not work. It will NEVER work. When you draw a drawing, you add action lines or blur it or SOMETHING to make it feel like it isn't inert. You can't just pose a bunch of stationary 3D models that look like store mannequins and take a picture! It doesn't work that way! That is why the action scenes in this comic are so unexciting, and [http://kanirabaxter.comicgenesis.com/d/20090714.html no amount of "BOOM!" and "KA-POW!"] splashed across the screen in big, comically colorful letters will convince me otherwise.<br />
<br />
Besides the inherent flaws in using a 3D animation program to make a comic, this comic has its own ways of fucking it up even more. Firstly, by making all the models ugly and bug-eyed. Then pile onto that being too lazy to make most of the models distinct, and just adding different haircuts and facial hair to the same guy over and over instead. I sometimes say about comics that everyone has the same face, but in this case they really do just have THE SAME FACE because I think she is actually using THE SAME MODEL! I am not sure but I think she just takes the same guy and makes small changes to him... if any.<br />
<br />
The end result is simply awful. I have seen bad art before but until now I have never seen art that makes me bored.<br />
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==Writing review==<br />
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[[File:20091006.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Giant bug-eyes make everything better.]]<br />
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The word "Adventure" in this comic's title is a massive overstatement. It should be called "The Expositionary Verbal Diarrhea of Kanira Baxter", or "The Trite, Boring Conversations of Kanira Baxter", or "Petty Arguments IN SPACE!".<br />
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For all the reasons I have already explained in the art and plot section the comic is impossible to enjoy. In addition to those flaws there is also the problem that they never really DO anything. Most of the comic revolves around the characters laying out their motivations and talking about how they feel about science. The creator of this comic has a massive boner for science. She constantly whines about why aren't there any spaceships yet so she could explore outer space like she was promised by movies in her childhood. As a result Kanira has become her mouthpiece, deliberating her own feelings regarding space exploration in the most uninteresting way possible.<br />
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The story with Kanira is that she used to be in school to learn to be a scientist, but then dropped out to become a bounty-hunter so that she could do some good in the world. But because she wants to do good and bounty hunters are scum she only does rescue missions. She is the kind of morally-unambiguous character they used to make back in the day when everything was committee-designed to fit the desires of concerned mothers. The kind of character no one misses but immature adults clinging to their childhood. And Kanira's constant deliberating about research vs. fucking around in space is a parallel to Kate's own immature bitching about wanting to go to fucking Neptune.<br />
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There isn't anything inherently wrong with using your art to convey a point or discuss something that matters to you. But to do so you must abide by two rules. One, you must do it in a way someone would care about. And two, you must do it about a thing someone would care about. And NO ONE cares about one woman's juvenile wishes to fly a spaceship laid out in a tsunami of text.<br />
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==Author biography== <br />
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The creator of this comic is a lesbian YouTube atheist preacher who thinks she is oppressed not only for being gay but also for being left-handed, doesn't believe in God (but [http://kanirabaxter.comicgenesis.com/d/20090714.html believes she once saw a spaceship]), and thinks she has an IQ high enough to join [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensa_International MENSA]. In other words [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5R5NxqwrQc she is the specialest little special snowflake] to ever float down from heaven and melt upon the hard, hot surface of planet reality.<br />
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She is roughly 37 years old and doesn't seem to have a steady job to the point she once had to volunteer for medical experiments for money. Because what kind of woman nearing 40 has gainful employment? Why even do that when you can chill at home and make money off your YouTube partnership? On a comical note, one of the people who suggested this comic told me that she was a transvestite and I had no problem believing it. I just looked at her and went: "Welp, this is obviously a man in a dress". Only after a while did I realize it wasn't true.<br />
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Now, about her YouTube channel- We are not "The Bad YouTube Wiki" so I will keep this short. She has been making the same five or six videos over and over for the past six years. She has close to 900 videos but she bases all her arguments on only a few points, some of which, even as an atheist I can see are obviously wrong. That and the age old YouTube debating technique of "I am talking in an angry voice therefore I'm right". Those points she has been making over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again for the past '''six years'''.<br />
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Occasionally she will also make response videos to another YouTube user which she calls "PWNAGE" videos in the most cringe-worthy way. Because what says "Internet Argument" better than smugly asserting your own victory before you had even started? In these she targets no one but complete idiots, obvious trolls and famous people who will never see her videos and reply. After all, why reach for anything but the lowest hanging fruit? <s>Particularly the fruit hanging lower than her nuts used to</s> (hahaha sorry I wrote that one when I thought she was a man). <br />
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But, like I said, we aren't "The Bad YouTube Wiki". All you need to know is that if you've seen one YouTube atheist you've seen them all. And if you've actually seen them all you are probably dead from excessive vomiting.<br />
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==Conclusion==<br />
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[[File:20091003.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Tiny, tiny hands... Jacking-off must be a real chore for this guy.]]<br />
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''The Adventures of Kanira Baxter'' is a miscarriage. Nothing about it is the least bit enjoyable. What parts of the action aren't ruined by the awful art are ruined by the fact no one cares about what is going on. What parts of the story aren't ruined by the fact the only character with a personality is an insufferable bitch (instead of commanding and virtuous like she is meant to come off) are ruined by the fact that every time the plot is nearing something interesting it abandons it to start a new chapter. What parts of the character's internal struggles aren't ruined by the walls of text by which they are delivered are ruined by the fact they are not interesting in the first place.<br />
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I would not recommend this comic to anyone I do not want to torture.<br />
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==Links==<br />
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* [http://kanirabaxter.comicgenesis.com/ The comic]<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/user/BionicDance/videos Her YouTube account] - I don't feel a need to link to any more of her social media accounts beyond this.<br />
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSCwEJ1O3es In a hilarious turn of events] she ended up debating another genius whose comic is reviewed on our site. It's the psycho who makes [[Warmage]] and [[Monster Lover]]! Compared to him she actually seems pretty intelligent.<br />
*[http://www.anonmgur.com/up/50291c8e69f6ed5b43a2681d3a9cfb85.jpg Here is a picture of her wearing nothing but My Little Pony body paint] - All she needs now is a fedora and to not be gay and she will be every redditor's dream girl.'''*NSFW*'''<br />
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This is a page for review responses that I wasn't sure where to put or what to say about. Here you will find things we are not 100% sure were our fault, things that got deleted and we aren't sure what was written in them and otherwise strange or confusing responses.<br />
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==[[Darkwing Beyond]]==<br />
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'''In irregular section because''' - The artist's actual reaction has been lost<br><br />
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At some point the creator of the review for ''Darkwing Beyond'' notices that the creator of the comic itself had commented on the review he had written. He notices this, but did not bother to inform anyone. He only edited the review to mention this fact so by the time anyone noticed his edit the actual comment was long gone.<br />
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All we are left with is this quote from the review:<br><br />
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{{Quote|When he ''did'' eventually discover this review he did take it in (partly) stride, even pointing out some of his own flaws I had missed.}}<br><br />
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So all we really know is that AkumaTH was (to some degree) displeased with our review, but unfortunately not what he actually had to say.<br />
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Pity.<br />
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==Dume==<br />
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'''In irregular section because''' - Asked nicely to delete the review<br><br />
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Jonas deleted the comic and emailed us saying:<br />
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{{quote|Hi. If I asked really nicely, would you be willing to take this article down? The comic ended years ago, the site's down, and I'd really rather move on at this point.}}<br />
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Since he wasn't an ass about it and "Dume" isn't offensively bad we deleted the review.<br />
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==[[Foreskin Man]]==<br />
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'''In irregular section because''' - Continued the comic thanks to a prank<br />
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We had a strange little story with the creator of this comic. At the bottom of the review there was a request to try and send an E-mail to the creator pretending to be a fan to ask him to write a chapter where the hero fights Arabs.<br />
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After two years of being inactive the comic posted a new chapter that occurs in Turkey...<br />
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Is this our doing? No way to know except to make sure by repeating the result.<br />
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You know what culture has circumcisions that he has yet to insult? Australian aboriginies.<br />
[mailto:mail@foreskinman.com Here is his email again]. If you want to see if this was actually our fault, Email Matthew and mention that to him... Good luck!<br />
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==[[Harkovast]]==<br />
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'''In irregular section because''' - Wrote the review about himself<br />
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[[File:Medium.jpg|thumb|300px|center|''Webcomic artist writes review about himself. Everyone is confused.'']]<br />
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We had a whole soap opera with Herovast. Let us just read what he had to say.<br />
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{{Quote|This is an interesting one with a bit of back story I need to tell.<br />
Me and my mate Kev made bad reviews for each other's comics ages ago on the Bad Webcomic Wiki because we thought it was funny to insult each other.<br />
You can read the one I wrote for him here.<br />
He wrote one for me but it got edited by someone who wasn't very funny who tried to do a sort of commentary about getting bored and making a cup of tea because the comic was dull. It wasn't very good so I reverted it.<br />
Little did I realise, the BWW is much more of a members club than most wikis, and the person whose edit I reverted was kinda important on the site.<br />
I immediately got banned and the review was deleted entirely (they decided the comic was not actually that dreadful on their forum. They didnt think it was very good, but not bad enough to warrant a page.) Well...I lasted longer on that wiki than I did on Conservapedia at least!<br><br />
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Anyway, for some reason it got put back up, along with some commentary of the whole "removing, reverting" thing (which seems weird to me on a wiki, but its their site.)<br><br />
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Anyway, its basically Kev's original bad review but with more added, changed around a bit and more pictures.<br><br />
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I took the original Kev bad review down from the hall of shame because it seemed a bit like cheating (since he did the bad review as a joke I was in on.)<br />
But now its been approved and edited by others, I feel okay reposting it here.<br />
I will give a link in case it gets updated in the future-}}<br />
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So that's pretty much it. They wrote reviews about each other as a prank/ploy for attention, we figured it out, the review was either deleted or lost when the site was hacked. But, since the review was good and the comic is bad, it was restored form a copy they posted on their forum.<br />
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The only clarification we need to make is that Harkovast was not banned because he reverted the edits of a more "important" member. He was banned because he reverted them without explaining why, and then, when the changes were made again, he reverted them a second time without saying a word. Since everyone already knew who he was they assumed this was some stupid prank and just banned him rather than bother trying to figure it out.<br />
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Bottom line-<br />
Thank you Harkovast for saving us the trouble for writing a review about your little abomination, and thanks again for helping us restore the lost review.<br />
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==[[Harvest]]==<br />
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'''In irregular section because''' - Partially deleted the comic without responding<br />
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Two days after the review was posted the comic was removed from SmackJeeves. The comic is still up on two other sites, but this is a good start.<br />
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We can't be sure it was deleted thanks to us, but the timing seems suspect.<br />
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=Answers to BWW Commentators=<br />
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'''Q: I did a finished and revised review of [insert comic here] that was waiting for an author, do we contact the heads of this wiki when we're done?'''<br />
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No. Everyone can see if you've changed something. When you're done with a review, click "save" and copy the URL, then add it to the front page.<br />
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'''Q: Do I need to be serious in my review?'''<br />
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No. I (meaning The Luigiian, administrator) appreciate humor and informality in our reviews. Although review templates are rigid, the site isn't intended to be taken completely seriously, although some reviewers take it more seriously than others, and that's cool too. I think it shouldn't be too tough to tell when a reviewer is being serious and when a reviewer's just being tongue-in-cheek.<br />
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'''Q: Does that mean that this site has nothing of importance to say?'''<br />
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No. Even an informal, brash, or humorous review has constructive criticism in it. It's up to the artist to be able to take good criticism from the site and weed out the stuff that's just poking fun.<br />
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'''Q: Luigiian, why do you refer to x character in y comic as a fag/gimp/homo/etc.?'''<br />
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Chances are, I probably didn't. The "initial reviewer" bit at the start of every review is misleading; edits are performed to articles by multiple people, and often, some will add things that they find to be funny for strange reasons, most likely because they see this site as shock/troll humor. As a general rule, '''The Luigiian and Lesbot do not refer to people as niggers/spics/fags/gimps/etc.''' We have more class than this. Take everything you see here with a grain of salt; it's quite likely that an otherwise intelligent reviewer will have some other asshole use offensive words to be a dick. If you see such a thing, and happen to be a member, please take action.<br />
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(Oddguy: I, however, have no class whatsoever and will call whoever I want whatever I want and anyone who doesn't like it can suck my dick).<br />
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'''Q: YOU'RE JUST A BIG MEAN FAGGOT I DON'T SEE YOU DOING ANYTHING BETTER THAN THESE COMIC ARTISTS'''<br />
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Good that you can read the words on these pages.<br />
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I don't post my good stuff on here. My art teachers would probably frown on it, and besides that it isn't my prerogative to make good comics, because, get this, I DON'T PUT MY COMICS WORK ON THE INTERNET.<br />
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(MakarovJAC: May God bless America, and their Freedom of Speech. Of course!)<br />
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'''Q: So what do you mean, I shouldn't put my work on the Internet just because it's stuff that's composed of in-jokes and has no humorous content for anybody else?'''<br />
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Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. If you don't intend your work to be seen by people, you shouldn't put it on the Internet for people to see.<br />
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'''Q: What about your website, LoopyLines.com?'''<br />
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While it is questionable whether LoopyLines is actually funny, I do in fact try to make it funny.<br />
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'''Q: I try to make my comic funny, too. How is your website any different?'''<br />
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My website isn't any different. Post a blog critique website and rip my site a new one. I don't give a shit.<br />
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'''Q: Will you try to improve?'''<br />
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|'''Original review author:'''<br />
|[[User:Long Tom|Long Tom]]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Webcomic name:'''<br />
|[http://www.ozyandmillie.org/ Ozy and Millie]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Author:'''<br />
|[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_Simpson D. C. Simpson]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Start Date:'''<br />
|Wednesday, April 29, 1998<br />
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|'''End Date:'''<br />
|Tuesday, December 23, 2008<br />
|-<br />
|'''Genre:'''<br />
|Furry/Anthro, Slice Of Life<br />
|-<br />
|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
|Actually, I'm putting this review up not to pan the comic but to praise it. If nothing else, I want to prove that D. C. Simpson can be a great cartoonist - which makes his/her bad work all the worse.<br />
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'''Rating Summary'''<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable" style="width:600px"><br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Art:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
Deceptively simple-looking line drawing with subtle shading, managing to be expressive and animated without resorting to exaggeration.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Storyline:'''<br />
| Not applicable, as the strip has no overall storyline, but a series of story arcs using the characters, some which work and some which don't.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Characters:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
The characters are all credible; the children aren't miniature adults and the adults aren't clueless idiots.<br />
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|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
Originally based on ''Calvin and Hobbes'', but the comic finds its own style soon enough.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
Definitely a classic in the webcomics world.<br />
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[[File:iSRX6.png|thumb|right|300px|Ozy and Millie]]<br />
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==Background==<br />
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One of the first webcomics I learned about when I started reading webcomics, and it actually managed to live up to the hype it received.<br />
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==Downfall ==<br />
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The strip weakened a bit as it got toward the end, but not to the "jump the shark" level, and D. C. Simpson ended it with a bang, if not quite the ending I hoped. (I would have preferred Locke over Llewellyn as the groom.)<br />
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==Story and Plot==<br />
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There is no overall storyline, just a series of short stories using the characters.<br />
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==Art review==<br />
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[[File:2001-03-12-Ozy-and-Millie.gif|center]]<br />
<center>What typically happens in this webcomic.</center><br />
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Black and white line drawings with some shading, with the occasional color ones. Rather coarse at the beginning, but soon gets much better. The characters look like genuine children and adults, and are cute without being excessively so. The proportions of the figures make the characters actually look more animal-like than many furry artists manage to achieve - a major part of the strip's charm.<br />
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[[File:pkH2P.png|thumb|right|300px|Other major characters]]<br />
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==Writing review==<br />
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The comic is much like the old ''Calvin and Hobbes'' strip in the sense that the children have unusually large vocabularies for their age, but is otherwise not derivative. Unlike ''Calvin and Hobbes'', where the tiger is just a stuffed toy made alive by the boy's imagination, fantastical elements in the strip are real - not really a surprise in a comic whose characters are anthropomorphic animals. The dragon Llewellyn and his relatives are weird but real, and the pirate world hidden in the sofa is also real - in fact, the pirate captain Locke is Millie's biological father. Locke also ages back and forth between childhood and adulthood. There is a series of storylines over the course of the strip, some of which work and some which don't. Some representative strips over the years:<br />
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[http://ozyandmillie.org/1998/06/25/ozy-and-millie-58/ 1998: Ozy and Millie disprove an old quote]<br><br />
[http://ozyandmillie.org/1999/09/13/ozy-and-millie-214/ 1999: Millie meets Captain Locke]<br><br />
[http://ozyandmillie.org/2000/01/07/ozy-and-millie-288/ 2000: Millie tries her paw at avant-garde art]<br><br />
[http://ozyandmillie.org/2001/01/01/ozy-and-millie-564/ 2001: Ozy is an arctic fox, which is not always advantageous in winter]<br><br />
[http://ozyandmillie.org/2002/10/29/ozy-and-millie-1021/ 2002: How our heroes' plans typically turn out]<br><br />
[http://ozyandmillie.org/2003/03/20/ozy-and-millie-1131/ 2003: Millie's plans for Career Day at school]<br><br />
[http://ozyandmillie.org/2004/05/13/ozy-and-millie-1282/ 2004: Millie talks religion (D. C. Simpson herself is an atheist, BTW)]<br><br />
[http://ozyandmillie.org/2005/02/08/ozy-and-millie-1391/ 2005: Millie shows her schoolwork to her mother]<br><br />
[http://ozyandmillie.org/2006/03/24/ozy-and-millie-1621/ 2006: Llewellyn deals with the neighbors]<br><br />
[http://ozyandmillie.org/2007/07/06/ozy-and-millie-1909/ 2007: In real life, D. C. Simpson will take this idea much further]<br><br />
[http://ozyandmillie.org/2008/01/30/ozy-and-millie-2041/ 2008: Ms. Mudd's retaliation against an unfair schoolteacher]<br><br />
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Also, there is [http://ozyandmillie.org/2003/05/16/ozy-and-millie-1178/ the annual running joke of Millie shaving Ozy], akin to Lucy and the football in the old ''Peanuts'' comic.<br />
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==Author biography ==<br />
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D. C. Simpson is best known as the author of the well-regarded furry webcomic ''Ozy and Millie'', which has received much acclaim and numerous awards. Unfortunately Simpson's talents seem to have deserted her lately. The liberal Simpson, an MTF transsexual who recently had her sex-change operation completed a few years ago, seems to have had her wit and wonderful sense of humor removed in her operation, with her later work consisting of heavy handed and ultimately impenetrable political allegories like ''Raine Dog'', although humorless, pretentious political comics such as ''I Drew This'' prove that even in her ''Ozy and Millie'' days she had a penchant for being overblown and unfunny. She did finally receive syndication for a new strip of hers, with the working title of ''Girl'', but unfortunately she simply recycled her old ''Ozy and Millie'' strips for that one. Fortunately the new strip that has appeared in newspapers, ''Heavenly Nostrils'', about a little girl and a unicorn she adopted, does take its own path, so there is hope for her yet.<br />
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==Conclusion==<br />
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Fortunately this is what D. C. Simpson will always be remembered by.<br />
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==Other Comics By This Author That Have Been Reviewed On Our Site==<br />
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*[[I Drew This]]<br />
*[[Raine Dog]]<br />
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==Links==<br />
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*[http://definecynical.net/ Define Cynical], a website for ''Ozy And Millie'' fans<br />
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<u>The awards this comic has won:</u><br />
*[http://www.ccawards.com/2002.htm Winner of the Web Cartoonists' Choice Award for Best Anthropomorphic Comic in 2002]<br />
*[http://www.ursamajorawards.org/UMA_2006.htm Winner of the Ursa Major Award for Best Anthropomorphic Comic Strip in 2006]<br />
*[http://www.ursamajorawards.org/UMA_2007.htm Winner of the Ursa Major Award for Best Anthropomorphic Comic Strip in 2007]<br />
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<u>And TV Tropes has an article on them too:</u><br />
*[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WebComic/OzyAndMillie Ozy And Millie on TV Tropes]<br />
[[Category:Webcomics]]</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Vicki_Fox&diff=14359Vicki Fox2015-02-01T23:35:36Z<p>DentsAndDings: Undo revision 13857 by Horerczy (talk)</p>
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<div>{{WComic Infobox<br />
|review author = [[User:Long Tom|Long Tom]]<br />
|webcomic name = [http://www.vickifox.com Vicki Fox]<br />
|author = Writing is by [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Michael_Russell Michael Russell], most art is by [http://www.laurahowell.co.uk/ Laura Howell] and [http://spleger.home.comcast.net/~spleger/ Shelley Pleger]<br />
|start date = March 18, 2001<br />
|end date = Ongoing<br />
|genre = Furry, Slice-Of-Life<br />
|flaw = None, unless you're expecting wild adventures.<br />
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|art = {{MiniBBW_seal}}{{MiniBBW_seal}}{{MiniBBW_seal}}<br>Pleasant artwork, expressive without resorting to exaggeration. Though two different artists have worked on the majority of the strips, they managed to keep almost identical styles.<br />
|storyline = Not applicable, as the strip has no overall storyline, but a series of story arcs using the characters.<br />
|characters = {{MiniBBW_seal}}{{MiniBBW_seal}}{{MiniBBW_seal}}<br>Characters are all credible and most are likable.<br />
|mdetails = {{MiniBBW_seal}}{{MiniBBW_seal}}{{MiniBBW_seal}}<br>The furries are not simply substitute humans. For one thing, they are smaller than the human characters and don't generally drive cars because of [http://www.vickifox.com/Comics/index.php?707 this], though the larger furry characters may prove to be an exception.<br />
|overall = {{MiniBBW_seal}}{{MiniBBW_seal}}{{MiniBBW_seal}}<br>Though a Christian-themed comic, the Christianity is not shoved in the reader's face, and few story arcs actually deal with religion as such. There is in fact a [http://www.vickifox.com/goodnews.php "Good News" section] for those who are more interested in Christianity.<br />
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== Background==<br />
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I happened to find this strip by chance, and found it quite enjoyable.<br />
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==Downfall ==<br />
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It has stayed good so far.<br />
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==Story and Plot==<br />
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There is no overall storyline, just a series of short stories using the characters.<br />
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==Art review==<br />
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Color line art akin to that of ''Looney Tunes''.<br />
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[[File:977Cv.jpg|thumb|center|500px|You mean you can be a Christian '''and still''' not be a perfect angel who can do no wrong? Impossible!]]<br />
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==Writing review ==<br />
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This is a light entertainment comic. No deep theology is discussed; nobody questions their faith (well, perhaps with the exception of [http://www.vickifox.com/vf_cast_zephy.php Zephy Fox], but she doesn't raise any religious questions either), and no wild adventures in exotic places. Another member of the cast, [http://www.vickifox.com/vf_cast_steve.php Steve Reynard], is an example of someone who was a wild boy before becoming a Christian. As for theology, [http://www.vickifox.com/Comics/index.php?049 this] is as far as it goes.<br />
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Sample strips:<br />
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[[File:ZHOLT.jpg|thumb|right|250px|What's with all this light-hearted humor? Where is my self righteous preaching?!]]<br />
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[http://www.vickifox.com/Comics/index.php?003 "Candid video"] Vicki Fox may be a Christian but at least she's not without mischievousness.<br />
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[http://www.vickifox.com/Comics/index.php?028 "Southern Belle"] Vicki has a romantic crush on Steve Reynard, but is too shy to tell him about it.<br />
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[http://www.vickifox.com/Comics/index.php?032 "Geoff Hansen"] One of the strip's human characters.<br />
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[http://www.vickifox.com/Comics/index.php?033 "Craig Wolfe"] And someone has a romantic crush on Vicki!<br />
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[http://www.vickifox.com/Comics/index.php?040 "Growing up"] Vicki Fox's (literal) evil twin Zephy.<br />
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[http://www.vickifox.com/Comics/index.php?044 "The Mystery Man"] Even Christians can be tough...<br />
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[http://www.vickifox.com/Comics/index.php?050 "Zephy gets to the point"] ...and have a past not to be proud of.<br />
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[http://www.vickifox.com/Comics/index.php?072 "Let the show begin"] A pecan festival in Apopka.<br />
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[http://www.vickifox.com/Comics/index.php?082 "Movin' In"] Vicki and Meredith when they were college students. (For the record, cheerleaders are typically disliked by other girls at school.)<br />
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[http://www.vickifox.com/Comics/index.php?089 "Thanksgiving surprise"] But eventually they befriend one another.<br />
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[http://www.vickifox.com/Comics/index.php?714 "Feed their hunger"] The strip acknowledges that it is sometimes necessary to bribe Bible students.<br />
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[http://www.vickifox.com/Comics/index.php?100 "Mutiny on the backstage"] Despite the rivalry, Vicki is willing to stand up for her fellow cheerleader.<br />
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[http://www.vickifox.com/Comics/index.php?740 "Cross circuit melon"] One of a number of the comic's guest strips (yes, this is an actual Japanese tradition).<br />
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==Author biography ==<br />
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[http://www.vickifox.com/vf_mike.php This] is what he has to say about himself.<br />
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==Conclusion==<br />
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This is light entertainment for all ages. Though Christian-themed, the comic isn't a morality play or rah-rah Christian propaganda. If you think that religious webcomics are all like [[After Eden]] or [[Jack Chick Tracts]], here is an example of one that isn't.<br />
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==Links ==<br />
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* [http://www.vickifox.com/vf_history.php The creation of the Vicki Fox character]<br />
* [http://www.vickifox.com/company.php Vicki Fox Productions, Michael Russell's company]<br />
* [http://www.vickifox.com/faq.php FAQ section, to better understand the scenario]<br />
[[Category:Webcomics]]</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=A_Game_of_Fools&diff=14357A Game of Fools2015-02-01T23:34:18Z<p>DentsAndDings: Undo revision 12876 by Horerczy (talk)</p>
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Original review author:'''<br />
|[http://wikidot.com/user:info/Groggarioth Groggarioth]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Webcomic name:'''<br />
| ''A Game of Fools''<br />
|-<br />
|'''Author:'''<br />
|Asha Leu<br />
|-<br />
|'''Start Date:'''<br />
| August 2, 2009<br />
|-<br />
|'''End Date:'''<br />
| February 12, 2010<br />
|-<br />
|'''Genre:'''<br />
|Sci-fi, Comedy?<br />
|-<br />
|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
|Everything, just everything<br />
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'''Rating Summary'''<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable" style="width:600px"><br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Art:'''<br />
|I am deeply ashamed that this mess can even be called art. It gets no stars what-so-ever.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
One part comedy, one part science fiction, add some originality, and sprinkle with shit (gallons and gallons of shit).<br />
|-<br />
|'''Characters:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
I wish a slow, torturous death on all these characters, save for two; they get a quick death. <br />
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|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
At the very least, it is original. Sadly it is also unwanted, unneeded, and unjustifiable in its existence, as it should not be.<br />
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===Background===<br />
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[[File:AGameOfFoolsCar.gif|right|250px]]<br />
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It seems a lot of the webcomics I read come from TV Tropes, mainly tropes that involve villainy, evil or color theory. Going through [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Monster/Webcomics this page] you'll find at least two good comics, and at least 8 bad ones, some of which have already been featured on this site.<br />
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I was going through this page when I came across this little note: ''"Gloog from ''A Game of Fools''. Even the Big Bad is pretty horrified by his alternate plans for the Alien Invasion."'' Fool that I am, I thought that it was a human general/scientist with some dark intentions for an invading species, of course I was 100% wrong. Turns out the plan that Gloog had wasn't morbidly dark, or interestingly evil, but I'll get into that in the writing section.<br />
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<i style="color: white; font-size: .9em">Update: TVTropes removed the Gloog quote (and several others) on Sep 10, 2012 for not being good enough to be considered complete monsters.</i><br />
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===Downfall===<br />
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By the definition of the word "downfall", a downfall must happen after the start of its event. In that case, the first downfall of this comic is the third page, where I started noticing a rare phenomenon found most commonly in bad art called "Hand-Foot", where the palm of the hand begins halfway down the forearm, and the fingers are only a quarter of their normal length. No matter what I am reading, if I see Hand-Foot, it gets an instantaneous banishment to the 7th Circle of Artist Hell, where demons constantly pull your bones and flesh into increasingly more twisted and disgusting forms. (See also: the characters in [[Jack]], and Jack ([[Jack (the other one)|the other Jack]].)<br />
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===Story and Plot===<br />
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Our three lovable scamps, Adam (the straight man, A.K.A. "he who should be sectioned"), Joey (the stupid one, A.K.A. "he who should be under constant adult supervision") and Sylvester (the conspiracy pothead, A.K.A. "burn his corpse and salt the ground where his deep unmarked grave is") go out camping. They get abducted by the one sympathetic character, Captain Septultra, and the most disgusting character, his subordinate, Admiral Gloog.<br />
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Our three main characters (they're not heroes, they can't be heroes) escape through the stupidity of everyone else; as they return home they meet recurring character 'Tomato' who almost manages to top Gloog on the revulsion list, and we discover that even Adam's cat Emmy is not free of the evil taint that affects all the living creatures in this comic.<br />
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Then events happen, and the aliens kill off the actors of ''Batman'', ''Superman'', and all 10 ''Doctor Who'''s believing them to be Earth's greatest defenders...<br />
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I don't want to rehash any more comics, I'm just 60 comics in out of 216, and already I feel dirty and tired. Here's a bullet point summary:<br />
* Adam gets a job with a completely unlikable character (unenthused yaaay).<br />
* Sylvester's sister, Katie, moves in with the guys.<br />
* They discover that their old landlord was an alien in disguise, and that he's become the part of the Australian government.<br />
* They capture Admiral Gloog and torture him for information. It turns out he gains sexual pleasure from torture. (Extremely unenthused yaaaaay.)<br />
* Gloog escapes because Joey is an Idiot.<br />
* Septultra is replaced in the alien army by Captain Nique, who is just as sympathetic if not more intelligent.<br />
* More completely unlikable characters show up in the form of Sylvester's mother, her boyfriend, and his dog.<br />
* The aliens attack burning down the house and a fight ensues, with the characters torturing captain Nique and planning to take his place in the alien army.<br />
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And that is where the comic ends with the threat of coming back soon...<br />
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Yeah, please don't.<br />
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===Art review===<br />
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<center><br />
[[File:AGameOfFools2009.gif|200px]]<br><br />
<i>Let us sing a fun little song,<br><br />
A fun little song of all things wrong,<br><br />
It involves two friends of sub-par taste,<br><br />
Their names are copy and paste, copy and paste (repeat ad nauseam)</i><br><br />
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The artwork is less offensive than the writing, but that's not saying much, because the only difference is that it's consistently bad.<br />
There were three artists who contributed to this catastrophe. Asha Leu, the writer and owner of this comic, whose art is by far the worst art I have ever seen... the faces are commonly blocky rectangles, with a lump for the chin, or pointed chins that resemble a bullet that has gained a horrible sentience and knows that its only purpose is to kill and die in an explosive burst of gore and viscera, and everything wrong with humanity... <br />
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Sorry, I went on a tangent there, don't know what possessed me. The second artist, and the best one by far, is Danielle Phillips. Although after closer inspection, and some time away from the main comic, her art is still pretty littered with art mistakes, like inconsistent proportions and an ever-present use of copy paste. The biggest problem with her art, however, is that it doesn't last long enough. She barely draws 20 strips before fucking off back to Rat's Ass, Nowhere, and leaving us to suffer the blinding mess that is Asha Leu's art work.<br />
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The third artist is James Miller who stuck around for all of 9 strips, from 68 to 77. I can only think that he saw the script and ran away screaming in terror, like those who see the face of Great Cthulhu, their minds forever broken and twisted, and left empty shells of humanity... or he just couldn't be bothered anymore. Considering the single shape style that he uses sets a new level of laziness for a comic artist, this second explanation is far more likely.<br />
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===Writing review===<br />
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[[File:AGameOfFoolsAmbulence.gif|right|300px]]<br />
Every single character in this comic is slime or worse. The writing in this thing is beyond even the worst fan fiction where 'suddenly Vegeta'. I am truly dumber for having read this thrice-accursed abomination all the way through.<br />
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The writing is far, far worse than the art in that it is inconsistently bad. "How?" Let me list the ways.<br />
# In the first comic, the three main characters are playing ''Dungeons and Dragons'' (never mind that you generally need at least 4 people to make a ''Dungeons and Dragons'' group) but they don't have any maps or models, and they have people getting stoned and drunk at the table. But they do have dice so I guess they have everything important.<br />
# Joey, the certified idiot and RAPIST, is the designated driver. He is so incompetent that he can't even kill a person who has managed to become stuck under the back doors, and yet they rely on him to go anywhere that the bus doesn't.<br />
# They go camping because Joey wants to see 'wood nymphs' (so he basically wants to fuck a corpse that is turning into a tree).<br />
# As I said earlier in the Downfall, Gloog had his own plans for the invasion. Those plans turning women and children into sex slaves while killing us off at random and then raping our corpses. Are you sensing a theme with the corpse-fucking and death?<br />
# Katie's mother's boyfriend is a drunken, homophobic redneck drug dealer, who acts like the series is set in America, when it is set in Hell. (Read: it's supposed to be set in Australia, but the setting is almost as bad as [[Sonichu|CWCville]] so yeah, it's set in Hell.)<br />
# Sylvester's best friend is 'Tomato' (to-may-to) a serial murderer, rapist, animal abuser, inciter and just general scum, and somehow Adam is a bad guy for not wanting him in the house.<br />
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I would love to list everything bad with the comic's writing, but we'd be here for another ten pages if I did that, so in summary...<br />
This comic is wrong, it should not be, and I can only feel hate for its writer. A deep, seething hate.<br />
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===Author biography===<br />
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Asha Leu is Australian. He has a master's degree in creative writing from Queensland University of Technology, and as far as I can tell he hasn't been involved in any internet drama. His only fault is having a girly name and making this godforsaken waste of time.<br />
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===Conclusion===<br />
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You know, I wish I could find this guy and ask him what the fuck he thought he was doing when he made this, and get his honest opinion on his own fucking work. Because without his defense of it, this comic has utterly no redeeming features at all. It fails at humor, it fails at drama, it fails at tragedy, it fails at being worth my time, your time, the time that it took to create, and the energy it takes to store it on the internet. It is utterly worthless, and so should be cast back into empty void of space where hopefully it will never be found before it drifts into a star and is reduced to pure ash... but then that creates the risk that it becomes stardust, and becomes a part of everything. I don't know what I'd do if that happened. I really don't.<br />
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[[Category:Concluded]]<br />
[[Category: Webcomics]]</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Lethal:_Death_Squad_Rising&diff=14316Lethal: Death Squad Rising2015-02-01T23:25:34Z<p>DentsAndDings: </p>
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{{WComic Infobox<br />
|review author = [http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/nightgoat NightGoat]<br />
|webcomic name = [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Welcome.html Lethal: Death Squad Uprising]<br />
|author = [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Creators.html Joeby Gibson]<br />
|start date = March 24, 2009<br />
|end date = Ongoing<br />
|genre = Action/adventure<br />
|flaw = Absolute Predictability<br />
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|art = {{MiniBBW_seal}}{{MiniBBW_seal}}{{MiniBBW_seal}}<br>Technically good but improperly done (described in the Art Review section).<br />
|storyline = {{MiniBBW_seal}}<br>A series of very cliched adventure stories.<br />
|characters = {{MiniBBW_seal}}<br>Equally cliched.<br />
|overall = {{MiniBBW_seal}}<br>Boring, banal, trite, nothing that you couldn't find done better somewhere else.<br />
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==Background==<br />
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Bored and listless on the internet I began reading the #makecomics hashtag on twitter one night. This, unfortunately, lead me to Joeby Gibson and his webcomic: ''Lethal: Death Squad Uprising''. I read every page and hated every panel. Every single panel. The hardest part about writing this review is forcing myself to not take things panel by panel, breaking each one down into the base elements of suck, and instead stick the broader themes of suck present. ''Lethal: Death Squad Uprising'' is the single most predictable, most un-researched, most lazy thing I have ever read in my life. <br />
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==Downfall==<br />
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This comic has, and will always, suck. The downfall begins with the page design. The website looks like something from a junior high web design class. It is as boring and plain as the comic it hosts. It is also a pain in the ass to navigate, with no thought given to presentation, form, function, or consistency. <br />
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==Story and Plot==<br />
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The plot summary available on the website states simply: <br />
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{{quote|Set in 1985, follow the adventures of redneck bounty hunter, Lethal Johnson, as he wages war against a terrorist group known as The Death Squad.}}<br />
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Joeby Gibson, that's not even the half of it. You’re far too modest. Let's just list some of the plot elements you will encounter in ''Lethal: Death Squad Uprising'':<br />
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* Bounty Hunters<br />
* Ninjas <br />
* Misogyny <br />
* Terrorists <br />
* A Grim and Gritty Hero with a Troubled Past and a Devil-May-Care Attitude<br />
* Defunct Elite Commando Squads<br />
* A Long Lost Twin, who happens to be Evil<br />
* One-liners <br />
* Dead Wives<br />
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And that is just a start. ''Lethal'' is the story of Lethal Johnson (yes that really is his fucking name. Lethal. Johnson.), a bounty hunter, and former commando, complete with mullet and '80s shades. When we first meet Lethal he is [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/3/24_Issue_1,_Page_04.html Clay-Pigeon shooting while surf-boarding]. I'm not fucking kidding. Seems a new cult/terrorist outfit is in town and only Lethal can stop them. You don't even need to read the comic, take the above elements, think of the shittiest, most predictable plot possible, and I guarantee you - that what you have just imagined - is exactly what happens. All this and a [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/7/1_Issue_4,_Page_08.html shit-load] of [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/3/24_Issue_1,_Page_15.html cheesecake female anatomy.]<br />
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==Art review==<br />
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[[File:shapeimage_2_zps93a65f35.png|thumb|right|400px|Awwwwwww...no sliced salami?]]<br />
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The artist on the webcomic, Rowel Roque, has technical ability. His art has that late '80s/early '90s Marvel style down. Not very original but he can draw. That is not to say he isn't without his problems. He uses a [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/3/24_Issue_1,_Page_06.html ridiculous] [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/4/26_Issue_2,_Page_01.html amount] [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/7/1_Entry_1.html of] [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/7/31_Issue_5,_Page_14.html curved] [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/9/30_Issue_7,_Page_02.html linear] [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/3/24_Issue_1,_Page_01.html perspective,] when it makes no sense to do so. Curved linear perspective should really only be used in a few very specific instances. Namely when you are looking directly up at, or down from, something really tall. Roque ignores this convention though and just throws it in whenever the fuck he feels like. Now either Roque fucking loves curved linear perspective, and I mean ''loves'' it, or Joeby Gibson told him to do it because he researched late '80s/early '90s comics and found that a lot of artists from this period over used curved linear perspective as well. I mean after all, the book ''is'' set in the '80s so this is possible. The idea, however, breaks down when you realize that there is no way Joeby Gibson has actually taken the time to research anything -ever- in his little life. <br />
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Roque, technically skilled as he is, also possesses little to no storytelling ability. Take for instance [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/3/24_Issue_1,_Page_12.html this page]. In panel 1 Lethal has his arms at full extension pointing his gun at this dude, he is holding his gun straight out at eye level. Now that’s fine, but the very next panel the gun is firing and in panel 3 the bullet hits its target, IN THE NUTS. That means that either the guy is twice as tall as Lethal, or Roque has no fucking clue what he is doing. Roque can also be wildly inconsistent at times. For instance this scene, where a [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/10/31_Issue_8,_Page_10.html shotgun first shoots a slug], then, the next time it is fired, [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/10/31_Issue_8,_Page_11.html a normal shotgun round]. Although to be fair <s>some</s> most of his problems <s>seem to be</s> are originally Joeby Gibson’s fault.<br />
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Another point which demands discussion, but which rarely ever receives it is the lettering. This is one of the poorest jobs of lettering I have ever encountered. The creators page doesn’t tell me who letters this piece of shit, but at least there is a colorist listed. Never-fucking-mind that this is a black and white webcomic, '''THEY HAVE A COLORIST'''. Anyway back to the point, which is that the lettering in this book sucks out loud. [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/3/24_Issue_1,_Page_02.html Sloppy], [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/5/29_Issue_3,_Page_09.html inconsistent], and [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/9/30_Issue_7,_Page_04.html confusing]. Whoever among their number they have lettering should stop, go down the street to the neighborhood kid with the severe disorder of the nervous system, blindfold him, and then pay him to letter the book- because he would do a better job.<br />
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==Writing review==<br />
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And now for the pinnacle of shit, beneath which, a river of shit flows. The writing. I’m loathe to even refer to it as such. It is hardly writing, it shares much more in common with masturbation. I don’t want to belabor this point, but this is the single most predictable webcomic, nay –work of fiction- that I have ever read. Every fucking thing about it the reader can figure out long before the characters in the story ever do. From the mysterious [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/4/26_Issue_2,_Page_10.html contents] of these crates, to [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/7/1_Issue_4,_Page_02.html this] obvious assassin, to the betrayal of [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/7/31_Issue_5,_Page_04.html every single] [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/9/30_Issue_7,_Page_11.html person] Lethal works with, to the stupid [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/8/30_Issue_6,_Page_12.html long lost twin shit], to the backstabbing ninja’s [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/10/31_Issue_8,_Page_14.html motivation]. There is not a single thing coming in this book that you won’t be able to see from light years away. PRO TIP: Joeby, this makes your characters look retarded. <br />
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While I’m handing out tips, having newscasters explain any scene, and especially [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/3/24_Issue_1,_Page_01.html starting your book this way], is widely regarded as the laziest of all hack moves. <br />
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Let’s step back from Gibson’s total inability to write an engaging plot, and take a look at his total inability to write engaging characters. Lethal Johnson himself, is an action hero who never misses a shot, never fails to dodge his enemy’s bullets, always gets the girl, is seemingly highly skilled at every single thing in the world, and is suffering from a serious case of being ‘the one.’ I would, and rightly should, call Mary Sue, but I actually think that Gibson might be too stupid to write a Mary Sue. That is impressively stupid I know. In order to create sympathy for his completely unlikable lead Gibson does what all hack writers do: [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/7/1_Issue_4,_Page_12.html he kills off Lethal’s wife]. This is just the start of the pervasive misogyny throughout this comic. From this [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/7/1_Entry_1_2.html wonderful motorboat scene], to the following [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/8/30_Issue_6,_Page_11.html sex scene], to the [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/9/30_Issue_7,_Page_01.html eventual maiming] of Ms. Strokes (yes her last name is Strokes, his is Johnson, can you predict the joke Gibson is going to tell? I can.) Gibson has no idea how to write women as anything other than [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/7/31_Issue_5,_Page_03.html objects]. Next time Gibson, set your story on a submarine or in a prison so you don’t have to embarrass yourself by showing that you have absolutely no respect for half the population. <br />
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There are so many problems with this comic that it is impossible to address them all without getting out a red marker and going panel by panel through the comic. I’ll direct you to a few more of my favorites and then be done with it. Favorites such as, [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/9/30_Issue_7,_Page_14.html that is not how swords work,] [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/4/26_Issue_2,_Page_11.html and how the fuck is it ‘too late’] [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/4/26_Issue_2,_Page_12.html if you easily kill the guy], and why in the fuck would just not [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/10/31_Issue_8,_Page_10.html detonate the bomb] [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Issues/Entries/2009/10/31_Issue_8,_Page_06.html right off the bat] instead of wasting time and ammo you dumb fucking fuck?<br />
<br />
==Author biography==<br />
<br />
Taken from the creators page on the website: <br />
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{{Quote|Joeby Gibson<br><br />
<br><br />
Writer / Producer<br><br />
<br> <br />
JoebyGibson@aol.com<br><br />
<br> <br />
Gibson earned his bachelor’s degree while studying film at Montana State University, Bozeman. After graduation, he traveled to Los Angeles and soon became a freelance Story Producer for reality television shows. His credits include shows for NBC, CMT, and Animal Planet. While keeping busy with his day job and planning a wedding, Joeby somehow finds the time to be the Writer and Producer for Lethal... and he hates referring to himself in the third person unless he is updating his Facebook or Twitter status.<br />
}}<br />
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Note that he calls himself “a writer/producer." On his twitter page he writes: "I'm a Very Important Story Producer Guy." I would write this off as being tongue-in-cheek but Gibson has already proven himself to not be smart enough to write with his tongue planted in his cheek. So, I’m just going to assume that this is his honest opinion of himself. Note also that he is a reality TV producer. For those of you not in the know, a producer on a reality TV show is a writer, they call them producers because the show’s aren’t supposed to be written but they are. Producers write scenarios, and sometimes even dialogue, for the only people on Earth that have less talent than they do- the reality TV star. This means, that with any luck, Joeby will soon fuck off back to writing things for the cast of ''Daisy of Love'' to get in fights about. <br />
<br />
Finally Joeby Gibson has the stupidest publicity campaign going on write now: the first 500 people that follow him on twitter will get their twitter username printed in the ''Lethal: Death Squad Rising/''collected trade paper back (he calls it a GN but this just shows that he has no idea what the differences between a TPB and a graphic novel are.) At first I thought “now why in the fuck would I ever want my name associated with something that has made my life worse in a quantifiable way?” But then I realized that we could all register a bunch of twitter accounts like “JoebyGibsonIsATool” or “ThisBookSucks” and get them printed in the book. Go do that. <br />
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==Conclusion==<br />
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In conclusion, click the link on this page and go read the comic, give Gibson lots of hits. The hack doesn't have Google Analytics on his site but he will be able to see where the traffic is coming from, hopefully he will track it back here, read this and stop. That’s all we can hope for. Joeby, please stop. <br />
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==Links==<br />
<br />
* [http://www.areyoulethal.com/AreYouLethal/Welcome.html The Official Website] <br />
* [http://twitter.com/JoebyGibson Joeby's Twitter Account]<br />
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[[Category: Adventure webcomics]]</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Sabrina_Online&diff=14229Sabrina Online2015-02-01T23:19:09Z<p>DentsAndDings: Undo revision 14219 by ODDGUY THREATENED CYN'S MOTHER (talk)</p>
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Original review author:'''<br />
| [http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/long-tom Long Tom] (A major update of the original review by [http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/the-luigiian The Luigiian])<br />
|-<br />
|'''Webcomic name:'''<br />
| [http://www.sabrina-online.com/ Sabrina Online]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Author:'''<br />
| [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Eric_W._Schwartz Eric W. Schwartz] (courtesy of WikiFur)<br />
|-<br />
|'''Start Date:'''<br />
| September 1996<br />
|-<br />
|'''End Date:'''<br />
| Ongoing<br />
|-<br />
|'''Genre:'''<br />
| Furry Fetish<br />
|-<br />
|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
| Sexualizes the classic ''Warner Brothers'' art style.<br />
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'''Rating Summary'''<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable" style="width:600px"><br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
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|'''Art'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]][[File:Wiki.png|65px]][[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
It would be lovely, but on the front page it's too small and while Schwartz offers a bigger version, it's unfortunately horribly pixellated.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]][[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
Originally about a female anthro skunk and her adventures with the Amiga computer, later about her working at a porno studio (though not herself doing the porn), with none of the porn and a lot of mixed-up ideas and frustrating unrealistic characters.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Characters:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
One's a furry porn star with a dark past. Another is a mascot for a long-dead computer operating system. Together with a bunch of other characters they lead to a weak sitcom-style strip.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]][[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
Eric W. Schwartz is known as a decent artist but a whiny one that's got way too much invested in his characters. He's sort of like a furry version of Fred Gallagher, but he can actually draw a bit and he's not as sloppy.<br />
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|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]][[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
A prime example of the furry fandom's promise wasted on fanservice and sexuality.<br />
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===Background===<br />
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There's a long list of things that should be grounds for the death penalty, but sadly, aren't. Among these are referring to a webcomic as "online" in its title, calling your webcomic "an Internet tradition" because you were the first person stupid enough to post your glorified ''Looney Tunes'' porn on the Internet, posting said work on your site as a jagged, messed-up looking monochrome bitmap, making your principal character a full-grown nerd skunk with a shirt but no pants, then making up for the lack of pants by [http://i.imgur.com/9i7E72L.gif making the joke that Sabrina wears pants which match her fur], and putting said skunk in a job at a porno studio. Indeed, ''Sabrina-Online'' commits all these sins. <br />
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===Downfall===<br />
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Oh ho ho! All right, I'll bite. Let's say ''Sabrina-Online'' had a "downfall" besides its very inception. That would be when Eric W. Schwartz founded his furry porn site, ''Fur After Dark'', which I consider his "artist's website" due to the fact that Schwartz is really just a furry pornographer.<br />
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''Sabrina-Online'' began as a boring comic about a boring character. The target audience was far too specific; you had to be a furry, love Amigas, hate Macs, like your toast well done... Of course, [http://i.imgur.com/ZUq8Txt.gif the computer world changed since that time], and the [http://i.imgur.com/0nRAN5H.gif Amiga became as obsolete as the steam locomotive]. So that faded out and the comic turned its focus onto sexuality and pornography, though stopping short of being graphic about it.<br />
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[[File:9GCsPoz.gif|center]]<br />
<center>The first ''Sabrina-Online'' strip from 1996.</center><br />
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[[File:Tg5ZPnh.gif|center]]<br />
<center>Several years later, a whole new focus for the strip.</center><br />
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If there's one reason I would never use Amiga software, it's probably because Schwartz' horny "skunkette" is its mascot. Word to the wise: follow my lead.<br />
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===Story and Plot===<br />
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[[File:SO2.jpg|thumb|180px|right|The dialog in Schwartz's work is really spoken from the heart.]]<br />
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The strip does follow an overall story line. At the outset, we see Sabrina [http://i.imgur.com/lTcylGQ.gif buying Internet access for her Amiga computer] and having a [http://i.imgur.com/EUwtuOx.gif number of difficulties] setting it up. (Remember, this particular strip takes place in the era of [http://i.imgur.com/nxMn6TH.gif dial-up modems].) [http://i.imgur.com/Or8PVqJ.gif Once online], she discovers some [http://i.imgur.com/RMuORIP.gif undesirable aspects] of the Internet-but one [http://i.imgur.com/XJdulyp.gif desirable one] as well. Meanwhile, Amy the Squirrel has her boyfriend [http://i.imgur.com/87h584j.gif Thomas Woolfe] over, and they [http://i.imgur.com/FYfStZL.gif make love]-and [http://i.imgur.com/ePvIi5l.gif more than that]. With that complication, [http://i.imgur.com/yfdpS8C.gif Amy and Thomas get married], and they are now [http://i.imgur.com/GoFUPVN.gif parents to Timmy].<br />
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But Sabrina has more than [http://i.imgur.com/a0D4FaW.gif Amiga computers] or relationships to worry about. Now that she has just graduated college, she needs to [http://i.imgur.com/x9vdXPs.gif find a job]. She [http://i.imgur.com/nd5F7HC.gif finds one] soon enough, but unfortunately it proves to be [http://i.imgur.com/lsZNgse.gif short-lived]. Needing a job she can keep, she finds employment...[http://i.imgur.com/SHzJsjn.gif guess where]? And how is her new workplace? Imagine having a boss [http://i.imgur.com/xCh7dOk.gif who behaves] [http://i.imgur.com/bR1YVqC.gif like this]. And who finally [http://i.imgur.com/1hXbrV3.gif pushes Sabrina too far]. Zig Zag is [http://i.imgur.com/7ZFVl16.gif chastened], but is also surprised that Sabrina [http://i.imgur.com/6skNdKy.gif neither resigned from Double Z Studios nor sued her for sexual harassment]. (Of course, the real reason is that how could Eric Schwartz avoid the high concept of a nerdy girl working at a porno studio?) Sabrina and Zig Zag then [http://i.imgur.com/8ozOAMN.gif come to an understanding] on what sort of relationship the two of them will have.<br />
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In the meantime, Sabrina and her new boyfriend RC also [http://i.imgur.com/D1l4337.gif come to an understanding of their relationship]. RC is aware of who Sabrina's employer is, and he even [http://i.imgur.com/gMT7z81.gif pays a visit to the staff of Double Z Studios], including [http://i.imgur.com/FXfaICT.gif another employee who doesn't do porno work either]. On their way home, Sabrina and RC encounter a mugger, but Sabrina saves the day because [http://i.imgur.com/cbaDwVy.gif she is a skunk, after all]. Besides RC, Sabrina brings her set of [http://i.imgur.com/iu7VQ5o.gif Transformers toys] to her workplace. And Sabrina learns that making porno films is [http://i.imgur.com/PRVJeA3.gif not really enjoyable for those involved]. (Fortunately, not the hard way.) We also learn that it is not really enjoyable to be a [http://i.imgur.com/BR64UIJ.gif Transformers toy] or to be [http://i.imgur.com/CdV4aja.gif new parents], either. Babysitting is awful too, to the point where Sabrina winds up taking Timmy and her own kid sister Tabitha [http://i.imgur.com/zeoggrH.gif to Double Z Studios] with her.<br />
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[[File:SO3.jpg|thumb|right|170px|Your boyfriend's dad coming on to you on your bed is not creepy. It is sweet. No really!]]<br />
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Sabrina's parents [http://i.imgur.com/ZlC2iuO.gif learn about her dating RC], and invite him to visit them, the outcome being [http://i.imgur.com/e13KoUp.gif pretty much what one would predict]. Shortly afterward, Sabrina's car dies and Zig Zag [http://i.imgur.com/of87USp.gif helps her shop for a replacement], though the [http://i.imgur.com/gZfJJiX.gif one Sabrina buys] isn't quite as cool as the one [http://i.imgur.com/Fz6Yd3x.gif Zig Zag owns]. Later, Sabrina has her father, along with RC, [http://i.imgur.com/t5YwXNz.gif pay a visit to Double Z Studios]. Eventually Sabrina's mother [http://i.imgur.com/kOu4oGz.gif discovers who Sabrina's employer is], and [http://i.imgur.com/ObtZfmT.gif invites Zig Zag to her home], where Zig Zag reveals what her business does...[http://i.imgur.com/ZRIj62j.gif in a way]. And as it happens, [http://i.imgur.com/izSRZAZ.gif RC also has parents]...though probably not the type [http://i.imgur.com/vxJVwDD.gif Sabrina had anticipated].<br />
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In 2008, the author has his strip [http://i.imgur.com/GVI6LRw.gif make a foray into politics], namely the U. S. Presidential election. He makes a [http://i.imgur.com/zW5NmcL.gif thinly disguised endorsement]. But the author still admits that [http://i.imgur.com/nQvmlFe.gif political campaigns are a dirty business]. However, Schwartz does not again cover the topic of politics in his strip, not even during the 2012 election campaign. Presumably he became disillusioned with the man he had endorsed, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAbYsxd3ADg like many others have]? He hasn't said, and nobody has asked, not even on the "Fans Of ''Sabrina-Online''" Yahoo! group.<br />
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And now Tabitha has been [http://i.imgur.com/Tc6GeJs.gif given a computer] by her parents...and because of it, [http://i.imgur.com/Oncnsgg.gif learns about Double Z Studios]. Again Sabrina has to ask Zig Zag for help, since Tabitha knows that Zig Zag deals with naked people. So Zig Zag comes up with [http://i.imgur.com/ttUPbtU.gif a cover story] for Tabitha, and to cement it, Tabitha and Zig Zag have an [http://i.imgur.com/oi0fLeb.gif "artistic" photo shoot]. The story arc ends when Sabrina does [http://i.imgur.com/afPwInD.gif what she should have done in the first place], and Zig Zag wonders what she (or Eric Schwartz) [http://i.imgur.com/ttF5qf9.gif had been thinking].<br />
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New story development: it's 2010, and the porno market now demands [http://i.imgur.com/lHVNF8j.gif computer-downloadable videos instead of DVDs]. Trouble is, all along Zig Zag has depended on Sabrina to deal with computer matters and she herself is [http://i.imgur.com/WLv1VWc.gif a complete computer novice]. But Sabrina teaches her about going on the Internet, and Zig Zag [http://i.imgur.com/2EPJ6eg.gif makes her own] [http://i.imgur.com/TQtcHDq.gif unpleasant discoveries] about it. But Zig Zag also [http://i.imgur.com/NIMWNfb.gif finds enjoyment] [http://i.imgur.com/CTkUYOk.gif as well]. But Zig Zag has been clearly butthurt by the taunting she received over the Internet, so she [http://i.imgur.com/qszRO9G.gif goes on a] [http://i.imgur.com/Cit5Yei.gif revenge] [http://i.imgur.com/Xy1VX4m.gif tour]. This had in fact started quite a bit of grumbling on the "Fans Of ''Sabrina-Online''" Yahoo! group-when you think about it, is Zig Zag [http://i.imgur.com/oaFOz79.gif really supposed to be so petty]?<br />
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Next, Sabrina decides to compose [http://i.imgur.com/6lr806a.gif her own webcomic]. I am [http://i.imgur.com/TzEFEO1.jpg not making this up]. And what is the point of this story arc? Perhaps Eric Schwartz [http://i.imgur.com/ScUm4zb.jpg hasn't been pleased] with [http://i.imgur.com/boLMxCa.gif the feedback] he has [http://i.imgur.com/Xc7kfQb.gif gotten lately], and now [http://i.imgur.com/TaYJkFs.jpg it's getting to him]? Perhaps he's trying a [http://i.imgur.com/L8PPfds.gif ploy for pity]? Maybe he's expecting [http://i.imgur.com/BXsfre0.gif this] in response? Well, if Eric Schwartz [http://i.imgur.com/wcjZz2g.gif doesn't want to carry on with the strip], he isn't legally obligated to.<br />
<br />
But perhaps Eric Schwartz found out about the story of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebus_the_Aardvark David Sim and his ''Cerebus the Aardvark''] comic book series, and realized that when David Sim started to get whiny and defensive when people started to complain about the way ''Cerebus'' was going, people mostly laughed at him and ''Cerebus'' had lost two-thirds of its readership by the time the series was finished. So the strip changes tack: Sabrina again encounters [http://i.imgur.com/Ouba14q.gif the mugger from long ago], and this time [http://i.imgur.com/08yibRs.gif he's after blood]. This finally stirs up consternation and stops the grumbling among the ''Sabrina-Online'' fans, but [http://i.imgur.com/feL8aoN.gif not to worry]. Sabrina's family and friends [http://i.imgur.com/v9rh1BZ.gif are very glad she is OK]. Not to mention [http://i.imgur.com/FbFACXj.gif furious at] [http://i.imgur.com/xbqmdiL.gif her attacker]. But the mugger isn't likely to [http://i.imgur.com/KPojCxm.gif find out who Zig Zag is]. And Sabrina calls Zig Zag a [http://i.imgur.com/t7bUoWv.gif "real good friend", and feels strange saying that]. Does Sabrina think Zig Zag is only doing her favors with the idea that she hopes to get her into the sack like she tried and failed to before...or does it imply that Sabrina herself might be developing lesbian feelings of her own? Hopefully not; that would destroy the last bit of credibility ''Sabrina-Online'' has left!<br />
<br />
===Art review===<br />
<br />
''Looney Tunes''-style line drawings with some shading, mostly black-and-white art with the occasional [http://i.imgur.com/ItSrdEa.jpg color strip] thrown in. Arguably, the art isn't bad, but...<br />
<br />
Thing is, it's plagiarism to the ''~nth'' degree. Not one bit of this comic's art is truly original. What this ends up being is really just fan art of more talented artists, by which I mean ''Warner Brothers'' animators. And Schwartz adds nothing to the formula. The fact that he '''draws porn based on the original character styles'' is something that disgusts me as well, but there's one thing that bugs me more than anything else. <br />
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This comic... is ''really tiny.'' Hardly bigger than you see in the average daily newspaper.<br />
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I'm not sure why, but Schwartz insists on his comic's teensy-weensy size, which makes the text small. If you want a bigger comic, he's got it, but... um, it's in monochrome bitmap. Wonder why that's bad? Check it out:<br />
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[[File:GiU9cw3.gif|center]]<br />
<center>Sample strip: original size</center><br />
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[[File:UecLmZ2.gif|center]]<br />
<center>Sample strip: large size</center><br />
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OK, so it basically makes them jagged and somewhat less attractive, what's so bad about that? Well, simply put, the linework deserves better. The quality here deserves better. Schwartz has a way with his lines, even if they are derivative, yet this jaggedness doesn't let them be truly expressive and beautiful. Even that's something of a minor, extraneous detail, though. The biggest issue of all is that Schwartz whores out his "creations", originally made by more talented artists than himself, and allows his work to be used as expensive spank fodder for lonely losers. It's abominable. And he's abominable for doing it.<br />
<br />
===Writing review===<br />
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I'm feeling for a pulse from any of these characters. Anything that makes them unique or different from one another. Anything... come on, something's got to be here... <br />
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Nope. Nothing. Nobody here's got a personality. That's pretty much all you need to know to make a case for "bad writing" in these situations.<br />
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'''Cast Of Major Characters:'''<br />
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'''Sabrina:''' "Nerdy female skunk who works at porn studio." Gotta have that. And she is the studio's web designer and doesn't participate in any of the movies the studio produces. Here's an equation for you Schwartz: Job + stereotype =/= personality. Oh, she's also kind of shy, in that she reacts to sexual advances by the people at the porn studio with [http://i.imgur.com/LbLu80A.gif EEEEEEEW SO GROSS AND DISGUSTING]. That's a start. Though she turns out [http://i.imgur.com/HlkqChM.gif not to be an asexual character after all] as the story progresses.<br />
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'''Tabitha:''' Sabrina's [http://i.imgur.com/rWrk1NY.gif aggressive kid sister].<br />
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'''Richard Conrad:''' Male raccoon nicknamed "RC" whom Sabrina had met through the Internet, and then in person, after which [http://i.imgur.com/p76Tl5N.gif they became lovers].<br />
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'''Amy the Squirrel:''' Female squirrel who had been a character in [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Amy_the_Squirrel Eric Schwartz's old Amiga animations] (see the "Links" section for an example). and wore only a short blue skirt, not even a top. She was incorporated into ''Sabrina-Online'' as Sabrina's roommate, now wearing a shirt and more conservative trousers, and was first the girlfriend and later the wife of Thomas Woolfe, and mother to Timmy.<br />
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'''Thomas Woolfe:''' Character actually belonging to Michael Higgs. He is a wolf (who hardly resembles one), and managed to have a baby with Amy the Squirrel through [http://i.imgur.com/eOS0d0h.gif cartoon magic].<br />
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'''Timmy:''' The hybrid baby son of Amy the Squirrel and Thomas Woolfe. Too young to be able to speak, but able to think in words-and [http://i.imgur.com/sVnR1mY.gif chew up Transformers toys].<br />
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'''Zig Zag:''' Character actually belonging to Max Black Rabbit (whose [http://i.imgur.com/BE7EaqH.gif own fursona appears briefly in the strip]). She is a skunk/tiger hybrid with distinct stripe markings, and appears in a large variety of adult furry stories and artwork, though ''Sabrina-Online'' can take the credit for having made her famous. Since she is depicted in different ways by different artists (for example, several authors have different versions of her "real name"), I am only reviewing this character as Eric Schwartz depicts her in this webcomic.<br />
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Zig Zag occasionally comes close to owning a personality. She's the loose star who runs "Double Z Studios", the porno studio Sabrina works at. If you count "loose" as a personality, sure. "Playful?" I guess, if you're feeling generous, or maybe "outgoing". That would work. Unfortunately the fact that she is an example of ''absolute failure at psychology'' ruins whatever simple charm she may have been able to muster.<br />
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[[File:SO1.jpg|thumb|300px|right|Sexual harassment is acceptable as long as you are a ''rly hot skunk/tiger hybrid lady with huge titties''.]]<br />
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Zig Zag is a character advertised to us as being sexually abused by her father at a young age. (This is in Max Black Rabbit's [http://www.furnation.com/black_rabbit/zgallery.htm official profile] for her.) It's understandable that something as traumatic (and generic) as that would leave some deep emotional scars, particularly linked to physical contact or trusting other people. Unfortunately Schwartz decides to take psychology outside and ''piss all over it'' by having this character ''completely shrug off'' her dark past in favour of an existence [http://i.imgur.com/nZRI4sM.gif sexually harassing the unwilling main character].<br />
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'''Fun Game:''' Imagine if Zig Zag had been drawn as a ''male'' sexual predator instead of a female. Consider how a male Zig Zag would probably have been cast as an evil and slimy boss, whereas this one's mammoth chest seems to work as a 'get out of jail free card'. How far into the plot do you think man-Zig would have been arrested? ''WIN AT GENDER STEREOTYPING YAAY''<br />
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(I suppose I should admit that I myself have done my own mini Zig Zag Comic, where [http://browse.deviantart.com/art/Zig-Zag-And-Zephy-Fox-One-327246801 she meets Zephy Fox] of the [http://www.vickifox.com/ Vicki Fox] webcomic, [http://browse.deviantart.com/art/Zig-Zag-And-Zephy-Fox-Two-327247194 hits up on Zephy], and gets [http://browse.deviantart.com/art/Zig-Zag-And-Zephy-Fox-Three-327247364 violently] [http://browse.deviantart.com/art/Zig-Zag-And-Zephy-Fox-Four-327247572 rebuffed] for it. Shortly after [http://browse.deviantart.com/art/Zig-Zag-And-Vicki-Fox-One-336636445 Vicki herself encounters her] and [http://browse.deviantart.com/art/Zig-Zag-And-Vicki-Fox-Two-336637529 learns] [http://browse.deviantart.com/art/Zig-Zag-And-Vicki-Fox-Three-336637824 what] [http://browse.deviantart.com/art/Zig-Zag-And-Vicki-Fox-Four-336638043 happened]. I asked Max Black Rabbit himself for permission for doing this, and he agreed. I am not making this up. BTW my reason for mentioning this is to prove that Max Black Rabbit seems to be permissive about letting other people do what they want with Zig Zag. Long Tom.)<br />
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'''Transformers:''' Yes, as in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformers_(toy_line) toy line produced by Hasbro]. But they aren't merely toys in this webcomic; they also have [http://i.imgur.com/F0RNdM0.gif lives of their own], and have even [http://i.imgur.com/WULe5TZ.gif established communication with the comic's organisms]. Well, [http://i.imgur.com/jlFyh6L.gif in a way].<br />
<br />
===But Obviously Sabrina-Online Is Quite Popular. Can You Explain Why?===<br />
<br />
There are things whose popularity I am at a loss to explain, such as the [http://www.garfield.com/ ''Garfield'' comic strip]. But it would be a lie to say that ''Sabrina-Online'' is without merit.<br />
<br />
What sort of merit? For one thing, the artwork, despite being derivative as mentioned above, is at least [http://i.imgur.com/BlndU2L.gif quite expressive and animated]. Also, Eric Schwartz can manage [http://i.imgur.com/QbCpOXZ.gif a good balance of black and white and reasonable detail] inside those tiny frames. Proportions are also good and backgrounds aren't cluttered (or copy-pasted types). At least all the drawing (with a few [http://i.imgur.com/TfsXDO0.gif exceptions]) is done by hand, which isn't the case for a lot of webcomics.<br />
<br />
As mentioned before, the humor in this comic is like that of the [http://i.imgur.com/icg0L81.gif average] [http://i.imgur.com/vxguKaD.gif sitcom]. In other words, mildly amusing, if not especially witty. And on the average sitcom, it takes proper interaction between the characters to make it work, like Ralph Kramden and Ed Norton and their respective spouses on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_honeymooners ''The Honeymooners''], or of Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz and the Mertzes on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Love_Lucy ''I Love Lucy'']. Eric Schwartz, whatever his flaws as a writer, is capable of making his characters work together. On the minus side, he overdoes on using [http://i.imgur.com/c1bhFgW.gif ''Transformers'' toys jokes].<br />
<br />
Also, despite the heavy use of sexuality, ''Sabrina-Online'' doesn't fall into the trap of glorifying pornography and conflating it with feminism like the old comic [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omaha_the_Cat_Dancer ''Omaha The Cat Dancer''] had done. Eric Schwartz at least admits that pornography essentially plays to [http://i.imgur.com/uvFvmVm.gif base male instincts] and not empowerment of females.<br />
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===Author biography===<br />
<br />
Of course, even before Schwartz founded ''Fur After Dark'' and started writing porno characters into ''Sabrina-Online'''s plot, he was still a pervert, just secretive about it. He posted porn of licensed ''Warner Brothers'' characters in accounts like [http://www.yiff.ru/gallery.yiff?id=16 this one]. He would draw porn of his beloved pervette skunk-thing for other furry artists. These artists would in turn give him favors. (One of the artists he gave such porn to was Max Black Rabbit, whose character Zig Zag was incorporated into ''Sabrina-Online'' as previously described-though doing so ended up making Zig Zag a very well-known character in the furry world!)<br />
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Like [http://www.fredart.com/ Fred Gallagher] and [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Tom_Fischbach Tom Fischbach], Schwartz hates it if you draw porn of his lead character, in this case the horny skunk. He can draw it, he can sexualize her, but you can't, because, like most webcomic artists' female leads, Sabrina is really supposed to be Schwartz' own pretend girlfriend, and that means she's supposed to be off limits to all others. <br />
<br />
===Conclusion===<br />
<br />
This is a perfect example of how to make a sleazy porn comic without any sex scenes, nudity, or even four-letter words. ''Sabrina-Online'' is, to me, a comic that reeks of potential that has been used for seedier purposes than it might have; like using ''wishes and rainbows'' to decorate a sex offender's car. Schwartz's art, though admittedly just a ripoff of more successful artists before him, could be quite cute if used to draw the bouncy little cartoon animals it was intended for. Instead he uses it to draw bouncy little cartoon porn stars covered in bouncy cartoon spunk. Zig Zag is one of the few characters in this mess to almost have a bit of charm, but Schwartz [http://i.imgur.com/0WsPNQt.gif pushed her obsession with sex to such an extreme] that he forgot to give her any other interests or personality at all; everything in the character's life revolves around her genitals.<br />
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Guys like Schwartz make comics, and their porn ends up being their only redeeming quality (and only then if you enjoy whacking it to a squirrel getting raped by alien tentacles); their comics eventually die out because they're mediocre and boring, and so only those who switch to shitting dicknipples survive. Furry Survival of the Fittest, my friends. There's a reason Eric makes porn now. <br />
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''Note to self: Comic sucks. Must add characterization. And come up with my own style that shows off the talent I could really have.''<br />
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===Links===<br />
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* [http://www.furafterdark.com/ Eric Schwartz' new porno paysite, ''Fur After Dark'']<br />
* [http://www.yiff.ru/gallery.yiff?id=16 Schwartz' gallery proving that ''Looney Tunes'' caused brain damage in its viewers]<br />
* [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Zig_Zag Wikifur article on Zig Zag], character belonging to [http://www.furnation.com/black_rabbit/ Max Black Rabbit]<br />
* [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Thomas_Woolfe Wikifur article on Thomas Woolfe], character belonging to [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Michael_Higgs Michael Higgs]<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm7oNlDlIe8&list=FLRA-6MG5St3zO6P-bmZsXlA "A Walk In The Park"], an old Amiga video featuring Eric Schwartz's character Amy the Squirrel. Even back in the day, he depicted naughty jokes using half-dressed cartoon animals.<br />
* [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fansofsabrinaonline/ "Fans Of ''Sabrina-Online''"], a Yahoo! group of ''Sabrina-Online'' fans of which Eric Schwartz himself is a member. Even they are willing to criticize the comic and its author as they see fit.<br />
* [http://web.archive.org/web/20061008225145/http://www.crushyiffdestroy.com/show/cyd-schwartz Archived article on Crush Yiff Destroy.]<br />
* [http://www.yiff.ru/gallery.yiff?id=16 This is where he used to post gross porn pretending to be someone else] - The lie fooled no one and the site even had the same IP '''(NSFW)'''.<br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Original review author:'''<br />
| [http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/long-tom Long Tom] (A major update of the original review by [http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/the-luigiian The Luigiian])<br />
|-<br />
|'''Webcomic name:'''<br />
| [http://www.sabrina-online.com/ Sabrina Online]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Author:'''<br />
| [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Eric_W._Schwartz Eric W. Schwartz] (courtesy of WikiFur)<br />
|-<br />
|'''Start Date:'''<br />
| September 1996<br />
|-<br />
|'''End Date:'''<br />
| Ongoing<br />
|-<br />
|'''Genre:'''<br />
| Furry Fetish<br />
|-<br />
|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
| Sexualizes the classic ''Warner Brothers'' art style.<br />
|}<br />
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'''Rating Summary'''<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable" style="width:600px"><br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
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|'''Art'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]][[File:Wiki.png|65px]][[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
It would be lovely, but on the front page it's too small and while Schwartz offers a bigger version, it's unfortunately horribly pixellated.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]][[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
Originally about a female anthro skunk and her adventures with the Amiga computer, later about her working at a porno studio (though not herself doing the porn), with none of the porn and a lot of mixed-up ideas and frustrating unrealistic characters.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Characters:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
One's a furry porn star with a dark past. Another is a mascot for a long-dead computer operating system. Together with a bunch of other characters they lead to a weak sitcom-style strip.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]][[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
Eric W. Schwartz is known as a decent artist but a whiny one that's got way too much invested in his characters. He's sort of like a furry version of Fred Gallagher, but he can actually draw a bit and he's not as sloppy.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]][[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
A prime example of the furry fandom's promise wasted on fanservice and sexuality.<br />
|}<br />
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===Background===<br />
<br />
There's a long list of things that should be grounds for the death penalty, but sadly, aren't. Among these are referring to a webcomic as "online" in its title, calling your webcomic "an Internet tradition" because you were the first person stupid enough to post your glorified ''Looney Tunes'' porn on the Internet, posting said work on your site as a jagged, messed-up looking monochrome bitmap, making your principal character a full-grown nerd skunk with a shirt but no pants, then making up for the lack of pants by [http://i.imgur.com/9i7E72L.gif making the joke that Sabrina wears pants which match her fur], and putting said skunk in a job at a porno studio. Indeed, ''Sabrina-Online'' commits all these sins. <br />
<br />
===Downfall===<br />
<br />
Oh ho ho! All right, I'll bite. Let's say ''Sabrina-Online'' had a "downfall" besides its very inception. That would be when Eric W. Schwartz founded his furry porn site, ''Fur After Dark'', which I consider his "artist's website" due to the fact that Schwartz is really just a furry pornographer.<br />
<br />
''Sabrina-Online'' began as a boring comic about a boring character. The target audience was far too specific; you had to be a furry, love Amigas, hate Macs, like your toast well done... Of course, [http://i.imgur.com/ZUq8Txt.gif the computer world changed since that time], and the [http://i.imgur.com/0nRAN5H.gif Amiga became as obsolete as the steam locomotive]. So that faded out and the comic turned its focus onto sexuality and pornography, though stopping short of being graphic about it.<br />
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[[File:9GCsPoz.gif|center]]<br />
<center>The first ''Sabrina-Online'' strip from 1996.</center><br />
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[[File:Tg5ZPnh.gif|center]]<br />
<center>Several years later, a whole new focus for the strip.</center><br />
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<br />
If there's one reason I would never use Amiga software, it's probably because Schwartz' horny "skunkette" is its mascot. Word to the wise: follow my lead.<br />
<br />
===Story and Plot===<br />
<br />
[[File:SO2.jpg|thumb|180px|right|The dialog in Schwartz's work is really spoken from the heart.]]<br />
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<br />
The strip does follow an overall story line. At the outset, we see Sabrina [http://i.imgur.com/lTcylGQ.gif buying Internet access for her Amiga computer] and having a [http://i.imgur.com/EUwtuOx.gif number of difficulties] setting it up. (Remember, this particular strip takes place in the era of [http://i.imgur.com/nxMn6TH.gif dial-up modems].) [http://i.imgur.com/Or8PVqJ.gif Once online], she discovers some [http://i.imgur.com/RMuORIP.gif undesirable aspects] of the Internet-but one [http://i.imgur.com/XJdulyp.gif desirable one] as well. Meanwhile, Amy the Squirrel has her boyfriend [http://i.imgur.com/87h584j.gif Thomas Woolfe] over, and they [http://i.imgur.com/FYfStZL.gif make love]-and [http://i.imgur.com/ePvIi5l.gif more than that]. With that complication, [http://i.imgur.com/yfdpS8C.gif Amy and Thomas get married], and they are now [http://i.imgur.com/GoFUPVN.gif parents to Timmy].<br />
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But Sabrina has more than [http://i.imgur.com/a0D4FaW.gif Amiga computers] or relationships to worry about. Now that she has just graduated college, she needs to [http://i.imgur.com/x9vdXPs.gif find a job]. She [http://i.imgur.com/nd5F7HC.gif finds one] soon enough, but unfortunately it proves to be [http://i.imgur.com/lsZNgse.gif short-lived]. Needing a job she can keep, she finds employment...[http://i.imgur.com/SHzJsjn.gif guess where]? And how is her new workplace? Imagine having a boss [http://i.imgur.com/xCh7dOk.gif who behaves] [http://i.imgur.com/bR1YVqC.gif like this]. And who finally [http://i.imgur.com/1hXbrV3.gif pushes Sabrina too far]. Zig Zag is [http://i.imgur.com/7ZFVl16.gif chastened], but is also surprised that Sabrina [http://i.imgur.com/6skNdKy.gif neither resigned from Double Z Studios nor sued her for sexual harassment]. (Of course, the real reason is that how could Eric Schwartz avoid the high concept of a nerdy girl working at a porno studio?) Sabrina and Zig Zag then [http://i.imgur.com/8ozOAMN.gif come to an understanding] on what sort of relationship the two of them will have.<br />
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In the meantime, Sabrina and her new boyfriend RC also [http://i.imgur.com/D1l4337.gif come to an understanding of their relationship]. RC is aware of who Sabrina's employer is, and he even [http://i.imgur.com/gMT7z81.gif pays a visit to the staff of Double Z Studios], including [http://i.imgur.com/FXfaICT.gif another employee who doesn't do porno work either]. On their way home, Sabrina and RC encounter a mugger, but Sabrina saves the day because [http://i.imgur.com/cbaDwVy.gif she is a skunk, after all]. Besides RC, Sabrina brings her set of [http://i.imgur.com/iu7VQ5o.gif Transformers toys] to her workplace. And Sabrina learns that making porno films is [http://i.imgur.com/PRVJeA3.gif not really enjoyable for those involved]. (Fortunately, not the hard way.) We also learn that it is not really enjoyable to be a [http://i.imgur.com/BR64UIJ.gif Transformers toy] or to be [http://i.imgur.com/CdV4aja.gif new parents], either. Babysitting is awful too, to the point where Sabrina winds up taking Timmy and her own kid sister Tabitha [http://i.imgur.com/zeoggrH.gif to Double Z Studios] with her.<br />
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[[File:SO3.jpg|thumb|right|170px|Your boyfriend's dad coming on to you on your bed is not creepy. It is sweet. No really!]]<br />
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Sabrina's parents [http://i.imgur.com/ZlC2iuO.gif learn about her dating RC], and invite him to visit them, the outcome being [http://i.imgur.com/e13KoUp.gif pretty much what one would predict]. Shortly afterward, Sabrina's car dies and Zig Zag [http://i.imgur.com/of87USp.gif helps her shop for a replacement], though the [http://i.imgur.com/gZfJJiX.gif one Sabrina buys] isn't quite as cool as the one [http://i.imgur.com/Fz6Yd3x.gif Zig Zag owns]. Later, Sabrina has her father, along with RC, [http://i.imgur.com/t5YwXNz.gif pay a visit to Double Z Studios]. Eventually Sabrina's mother [http://i.imgur.com/kOu4oGz.gif discovers who Sabrina's employer is], and [http://i.imgur.com/ObtZfmT.gif invites Zig Zag to her home], where Zig Zag reveals what her business does...[http://i.imgur.com/ZRIj62j.gif in a way]. And as it happens, [http://i.imgur.com/izSRZAZ.gif RC also has parents]...though probably not the type [http://i.imgur.com/vxJVwDD.gif Sabrina had anticipated].<br />
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In 2008, the author has his strip [http://i.imgur.com/GVI6LRw.gif make a foray into politics], namely the U. S. Presidential election. He makes a [http://i.imgur.com/zW5NmcL.gif thinly disguised endorsement]. But the author still admits that [http://i.imgur.com/nQvmlFe.gif political campaigns are a dirty business]. However, Schwartz does not again cover the topic of politics in his strip, not even during the 2012 election campaign. Presumably he became disillusioned with the man he had endorsed, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAbYsxd3ADg like many others have]? He hasn't said, and nobody has asked, not even on the "Fans Of ''Sabrina-Online''" Yahoo! group.<br />
<br />
And now Tabitha has been [http://i.imgur.com/Tc6GeJs.gif given a computer] by her parents...and because of it, [http://i.imgur.com/Oncnsgg.gif learns about Double Z Studios]. Again Sabrina has to ask Zig Zag for help, since Tabitha knows that Zig Zag deals with naked people. So Zig Zag comes up with [http://i.imgur.com/ttUPbtU.gif a cover story] for Tabitha, and to cement it, Tabitha and Zig Zag have an [http://i.imgur.com/oi0fLeb.gif "artistic" photo shoot]. The story arc ends when Sabrina does [http://i.imgur.com/afPwInD.gif what she should have done in the first place], and Zig Zag wonders what she (or Eric Schwartz) [http://i.imgur.com/ttF5qf9.gif had been thinking].<br />
<br />
New story development: it's 2010, and the porno market now demands [http://i.imgur.com/lHVNF8j.gif computer-downloadable videos instead of DVDs]. Trouble is, all along Zig Zag has depended on Sabrina to deal with computer matters and she herself is [http://i.imgur.com/WLv1VWc.gif a complete computer novice]. But Sabrina teaches her about going on the Internet, and Zig Zag [http://i.imgur.com/2EPJ6eg.gif makes her own] [http://i.imgur.com/TQtcHDq.gif unpleasant discoveries] about it. But Zig Zag also [http://i.imgur.com/NIMWNfb.gif finds enjoyment] [http://i.imgur.com/CTkUYOk.gif as well]. But Zig Zag has been clearly butthurt by the taunting she received over the Internet, so she [http://i.imgur.com/qszRO9G.gif goes on a] [http://i.imgur.com/Cit5Yei.gif revenge] [http://i.imgur.com/Xy1VX4m.gif tour]. This had in fact started quite a bit of grumbling on the "Fans Of ''Sabrina-Online''" Yahoo! group-when you think about it, is Zig Zag [http://i.imgur.com/oaFOz79.gif really supposed to be so petty]?<br />
<br />
Next, Sabrina decides to compose [http://i.imgur.com/6lr806a.gif her own webcomic]. I am [http://i.imgur.com/TzEFEO1.jpg not making this up]. And what is the point of this story arc? Perhaps Eric Schwartz [http://i.imgur.com/ScUm4zb.jpg hasn't been pleased] with [http://i.imgur.com/boLMxCa.gif the feedback] he has [http://i.imgur.com/Xc7kfQb.gif gotten lately], and now [http://i.imgur.com/TaYJkFs.jpg it's getting to him]? Perhaps he's trying a [http://i.imgur.com/L8PPfds.gif ploy for pity]? Maybe he's expecting [http://i.imgur.com/BXsfre0.gif this] in response? Well, if Eric Schwartz [http://i.imgur.com/wcjZz2g.gif doesn't want to carry on with the strip], he isn't legally obligated to.<br />
<br />
But perhaps Eric Schwartz found out about the story of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebus_the_Aardvark David Sim and his ''Cerebus the Aardvark''] comic book series, and realized that when David Sim started to get whiny and defensive when people started to complain about the way ''Cerebus'' was going, people mostly laughed at him and ''Cerebus'' had lost two-thirds of its readership by the time the series was finished. So the strip changes tack: Sabrina again encounters [http://i.imgur.com/Ouba14q.gif the mugger from long ago], and this time [http://i.imgur.com/08yibRs.gif he's after blood]. This finally stirs up consternation and stops the grumbling among the ''Sabrina-Online'' fans, but [http://i.imgur.com/feL8aoN.gif not to worry]. Sabrina's family and friends [http://i.imgur.com/v9rh1BZ.gif are very glad she is OK]. Not to mention [http://i.imgur.com/FbFACXj.gif furious at] [http://i.imgur.com/xbqmdiL.gif her attacker]. But the mugger isn't likely to [http://i.imgur.com/KPojCxm.gif find out who Zig Zag is]. And Sabrina calls Zig Zag a [http://i.imgur.com/t7bUoWv.gif "real good friend", and feels strange saying that]. Does Sabrina think Zig Zag is only doing her favors with the idea that she hopes to get her into the sack like she tried and failed to before...or does it imply that Sabrina herself might be developing lesbian feelings of her own? Hopefully not; that would destroy the last bit of credibility ''Sabrina-Online'' has left!<br />
<br />
===Art review===<br />
<br />
''Looney Tunes''-style line drawings with some shading, mostly black-and-white art with the occasional [http://i.imgur.com/ItSrdEa.jpg color strip] thrown in. Arguably, the art isn't bad, but...<br />
<br />
Thing is, it's plagiarism to the ''~nth'' degree. Not one bit of this comic's art is truly original. What this ends up being is really just fan art of more talented artists, by which I mean ''Warner Brothers'' animators. And Schwartz adds nothing to the formula. The fact that he '''draws porn based on the original character styles'' is something that disgusts me as well, but there's one thing that bugs me more than anything else. <br />
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This comic... is ''really tiny.'' Hardly bigger than you see in the average daily newspaper.<br />
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I'm not sure why, but Schwartz insists on his comic's teensy-weensy size, which makes the text small. If you want a bigger comic, he's got it, but... um, it's in monochrome bitmap. Wonder why that's bad? Check it out:<br />
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[[File:GiU9cw3.gif|center]]<br />
<center>Sample strip: original size</center><br />
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[[File:UecLmZ2.gif|center]]<br />
<center>Sample strip: large size</center><br />
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OK, so it basically makes them jagged and somewhat less attractive, what's so bad about that? Well, simply put, the linework deserves better. The quality here deserves better. Schwartz has a way with his lines, even if they are derivative, yet this jaggedness doesn't let them be truly expressive and beautiful. Even that's something of a minor, extraneous detail, though. The biggest issue of all is that Schwartz whores out his "creations", originally made by more talented artists than himself, and allows his work to be used as expensive spank fodder for lonely losers. It's abominable. And he's abominable for doing it.<br />
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===Writing review===<br />
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I'm feeling for a pulse from any of these characters. Anything that makes them unique or different from one another. Anything... come on, something's got to be here... <br />
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Nope. Nothing. Nobody here's got a personality. That's pretty much all you need to know to make a case for "bad writing" in these situations.<br />
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'''Cast Of Major Characters:'''<br />
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'''Sabrina:''' "Nerdy female skunk who works at porn studio." Gotta have that. And she is the studio's web designer and doesn't participate in any of the movies the studio produces. Here's an equation for you Schwartz: Job + stereotype =/= personality. Oh, she's also kind of shy, in that she reacts to sexual advances by the people at the porn studio with [http://i.imgur.com/LbLu80A.gif EEEEEEEW SO GROSS AND DISGUSTING]. That's a start. Though she turns out [http://i.imgur.com/HlkqChM.gif not to be an asexual character after all] as the story progresses.<br />
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'''Tabitha:''' Sabrina's [http://i.imgur.com/rWrk1NY.gif aggressive kid sister].<br />
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'''Richard Conrad:''' Male raccoon nicknamed "RC" whom Sabrina had met through the Internet, and then in person, after which [http://i.imgur.com/p76Tl5N.gif they became lovers].<br />
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'''Amy the Squirrel:''' Female squirrel who had been a character in [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Amy_the_Squirrel Eric Schwartz's old Amiga animations] (see the "Links" section for an example). and wore only a short blue skirt, not even a top. She was incorporated into ''Sabrina-Online'' as Sabrina's roommate, now wearing a shirt and more conservative trousers, and was first the girlfriend and later the wife of Thomas Woolfe, and mother to Timmy.<br />
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'''Thomas Woolfe:''' Character actually belonging to Michael Higgs. He is a wolf (who hardly resembles one), and managed to have a baby with Amy the Squirrel through [http://i.imgur.com/eOS0d0h.gif cartoon magic].<br />
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'''Timmy:''' The hybrid baby son of Amy the Squirrel and Thomas Woolfe. Too young to be able to speak, but able to think in words-and [http://i.imgur.com/sVnR1mY.gif chew up Transformers toys].<br />
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'''Zig Zag:''' Character actually belonging to Max Black Rabbit (whose [http://i.imgur.com/BE7EaqH.gif own fursona appears briefly in the strip]). She is a skunk/tiger hybrid with distinct stripe markings, and appears in a large variety of adult furry stories and artwork, though ''Sabrina-Online'' can take the credit for having made her famous. Since she is depicted in different ways by different artists (for example, several authors have different versions of her "real name"), I am only reviewing this character as Eric Schwartz depicts her in this webcomic.<br />
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Zig Zag occasionally comes close to owning a personality. She's the loose star who runs "Double Z Studios", the porno studio Sabrina works at. If you count "loose" as a personality, sure. "Playful?" I guess, if you're feeling generous, or maybe "outgoing". That would work. Unfortunately the fact that she is an example of ''absolute failure at psychology'' ruins whatever simple charm she may have been able to muster.<br />
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[[File:SO1.jpg|thumb|300px|right|Sexual harassment is acceptable as long as you are a ''rly hot skunk/tiger hybrid lady with huge titties''.]]<br />
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Zig Zag is a character advertised to us as being sexually abused by her father at a young age. (This is in Max Black Rabbit's [http://www.furnation.com/black_rabbit/zgallery.htm official profile] for her.) It's understandable that something as traumatic (and generic) as that would leave some deep emotional scars, particularly linked to physical contact or trusting other people. Unfortunately Schwartz decides to take psychology outside and ''piss all over it'' by having this character ''completely shrug off'' her dark past in favour of an existence [http://i.imgur.com/nZRI4sM.gif sexually harassing the unwilling main character].<br />
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'''Fun Game:''' Imagine if Zig Zag had been drawn as a ''male'' sexual predator instead of a female. Consider how a male Zig Zag would probably have been cast as an evil and slimy boss, whereas this one's mammoth chest seems to work as a 'get out of jail free card'. How far into the plot do you think man-Zig would have been arrested? ''WIN AT GENDER STEREOTYPING YAAY''<br />
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(I suppose I should admit that I myself have done my own mini Zig Zag Comic, where [http://browse.deviantart.com/art/Zig-Zag-And-Zephy-Fox-One-327246801 she meets Zephy Fox] of the [http://www.vickifox.com/ Vicki Fox] webcomic, [http://browse.deviantart.com/art/Zig-Zag-And-Zephy-Fox-Two-327247194 hits up on Zephy], and gets [http://browse.deviantart.com/art/Zig-Zag-And-Zephy-Fox-Three-327247364 violently] [http://browse.deviantart.com/art/Zig-Zag-And-Zephy-Fox-Four-327247572 rebuffed] for it. Shortly after [http://browse.deviantart.com/art/Zig-Zag-And-Vicki-Fox-One-336636445 Vicki herself encounters her] and [http://browse.deviantart.com/art/Zig-Zag-And-Vicki-Fox-Two-336637529 learns] [http://browse.deviantart.com/art/Zig-Zag-And-Vicki-Fox-Three-336637824 what] [http://browse.deviantart.com/art/Zig-Zag-And-Vicki-Fox-Four-336638043 happened]. I asked Max Black Rabbit himself for permission for doing this, and he agreed. I am not making this up. BTW my reason for mentioning this is to prove that Max Black Rabbit seems to be permissive about letting other people do what they want with Zig Zag. Long Tom.)<br />
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'''Transformers:''' Yes, as in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformers_(toy_line) toy line produced by Hasbro]. But they aren't merely toys in this webcomic; they also have [http://i.imgur.com/F0RNdM0.gif lives of their own], and have even [http://i.imgur.com/WULe5TZ.gif established communication with the comic's organisms]. Well, [http://i.imgur.com/jlFyh6L.gif in a way].<br />
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===But Obviously Sabrina-Online Is Quite Popular. Can You Explain Why?===<br />
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There are things whose popularity I am at a loss to explain, such as the [http://www.garfield.com/ ''Garfield'' comic strip]. But it would be a lie to say that ''Sabrina-Online'' is without merit.<br />
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What sort of merit? For one thing, the artwork, despite being derivative as mentioned above, is at least [http://i.imgur.com/BlndU2L.gif quite expressive and animated]. Also, Eric Schwartz can manage [http://i.imgur.com/QbCpOXZ.gif a good balance of black and white and reasonable detail] inside those tiny frames. Proportions are also good and backgrounds aren't cluttered (or copy-pasted types). At least all the drawing (with a few [http://i.imgur.com/TfsXDO0.gif exceptions]) is done by hand, which isn't the case for a lot of webcomics.<br />
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As mentioned before, the humor in this comic is like that of the [http://i.imgur.com/icg0L81.gif average] [http://i.imgur.com/vxguKaD.gif sitcom]. In other words, mildly amusing, if not especially witty. And on the average sitcom, it takes proper interaction between the characters to make it work, like Ralph Kramden and Ed Norton and their respective spouses on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_honeymooners ''The Honeymooners''], or of Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz and the Mertzes on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Love_Lucy ''I Love Lucy'']. Eric Schwartz, whatever his flaws as a writer, is capable of making his characters work together. On the minus side, he overdoes on using [http://i.imgur.com/c1bhFgW.gif ''Transformers'' toys jokes].<br />
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Also, despite the heavy use of sexuality, ''Sabrina-Online'' doesn't fall into the trap of glorifying pornography and conflating it with feminism like the old comic [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omaha_the_Cat_Dancer ''Omaha The Cat Dancer''] had done. Eric Schwartz at least admits that pornography essentially plays to [http://i.imgur.com/uvFvmVm.gif base male instincts] and not empowerment of females.<br />
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===Author biography===<br />
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Of course, even before Schwartz founded ''Fur After Dark'' and started writing porno characters into ''Sabrina-Online'''s plot, he was still a pervert, just secretive about it. He posted porn of licensed ''Warner Brothers'' characters in accounts like [http://www.yiff.ru/gallery.yiff?id=16 this one]. He would draw porn of his beloved pervette skunk-thing for other furry artists. These artists would in turn give him favors. (One of the artists he gave such porn to was Max Black Rabbit, whose character Zig Zag was incorporated into ''Sabrina-Online'' as previously described-though doing so ended up making Zig Zag a very well-known character in the furry world!)<br />
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Like [http://www.fredart.com/ Fred Gallagher] and [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Tom_Fischbach Tom Fischbach], Schwartz hates it if you draw porn of his lead character, in this case the horny skunk. He can draw it, he can sexualize her, but you can't, because, like most webcomic artists' female leads, Sabrina is really supposed to be Schwartz' own pretend girlfriend, and that means she's supposed to be off limits to all others. <br />
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===Conclusion===<br />
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This is a perfect example of how to make a sleazy porn comic without any sex scenes, nudity, or even four-letter words. ''Sabrina-Online'' is, to me, a comic that reeks of potential that has been used for seedier purposes than it might have; like using ''wishes and rainbows'' to decorate a sex offender's car. Schwartz's art, though admittedly just a ripoff of more successful artists before him, could be quite cute if used to draw the bouncy little cartoon animals it was intended for. Instead he uses it to draw bouncy little cartoon porn stars covered in bouncy cartoon spunk. Zig Zag is one of the few characters in this mess to almost have a bit of charm, but Schwartz [http://i.imgur.com/0WsPNQt.gif pushed her obsession with sex to such an extreme] that he forgot to give her any other interests or personality at all; everything in the character's life revolves around her genitals.<br />
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Guys like Schwartz make comics, and their porn ends up being their only redeeming quality (and only then if you enjoy whacking it to a squirrel getting raped by alien tentacles); their comics eventually die out because they're mediocre and boring, and so only those who switch to shitting dicknipples survive. Furry Survival of the Fittest, my friends. There's a reason Eric makes porn now. <br />
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''Note to self: Comic sucks. Must add characterization. And come up with my own style that shows off the talent I could really have.''<br />
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===Links===<br />
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* [http://www.furafterdark.com/ Eric Schwartz' new porno paysite, ''Fur After Dark'']<br />
* [http://www.yiff.ru/gallery.yiff?id=16 Schwartz' gallery proving that ''Looney Tunes'' caused brain damage in its viewers]<br />
* [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Zig_Zag Wikifur article on Zig Zag], character belonging to [http://www.furnation.com/black_rabbit/ Max Black Rabbit]<br />
* [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Thomas_Woolfe Wikifur article on Thomas Woolfe], character belonging to [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Michael_Higgs Michael Higgs]<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm7oNlDlIe8&list=FLRA-6MG5St3zO6P-bmZsXlA "A Walk In The Park"], an old Amiga video featuring Eric Schwartz's character Amy the Squirrel. Even back in the day, he depicted naughty jokes using half-dressed cartoon animals.<br />
* [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fansofsabrinaonline/ "Fans Of ''Sabrina-Online''"], a Yahoo! group of ''Sabrina-Online'' fans of which Eric Schwartz himself is a member. Even they are willing to criticize the comic and its author as they see fit.<br />
* [http://web.archive.org/web/20061008225145/http://www.crushyiffdestroy.com/show/cyd-schwartz Archived article on Crush Yiff Destroy.]<br />
* [http://www.yiff.ru/gallery.yiff?id=16 This is where he used to post gross porn pretending to be someone else] - The lie fooled no one and the site even had the same IP '''(NSFW)'''.<br />
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*If you still care we now have a new forum. Sorry for the wait. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 23:03, 28 September 2013 (UTC)</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oddguy&diff=13909User talk:Oddguy2015-02-01T19:02:31Z<p>DentsAndDings: /* Pagemove vandalism */ new section</p>
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<div>== Auto-fix images ==<br />
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Hey,<br />
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I'm working on a script that automatically converts the old markdown syntax to the new one, but I'm sort of stuck with how to deal with images. Is there any way we can have the entire image archive moved over at once, while keeping the same names? That way fixing the image tags would just involve changing the syntax, while keeping the same link address.<br />
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* Wow, a scrip? That's amazing man. I wish I knew how to do that kind of cool stuff... Anyway, i'll look into it but I will tell you right now that I seriously doubt it. I'lll get back to you once I know. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 14:56, 4 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:*A shame about the images.You can basically see an example of what the script's good for here: http://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Gyno-Star. If you know how to run Python scripts I can give you the source code, or I can try and turn it into an executable and get back to you in a few days. --[[User:AMysteriousStranger|AMysteriousStranger]] ([[User talk:AMysteriousStranger|talk]]) 02:30, 7 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::* Well, it isn't perfect, but it should still cut down our work. Sadly I don't know how to run python scripts. Let me know if you can turn it into an executable. Thank you for the help.[[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 03:10, 7 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== question ==<br />
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I have a webcomic in mind, but do I need to go to the forum and talk about it or should I just create the article?--[[File:Mr toast.jpg|link=Toast]][[User:Milwin|<span style="color:yellow;font-weight:bold">'''milwin'''</span>]][[File:my toaster.jpg|link=User talk:milwin|Wanna get toasty :3]] 11:53, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
*wait there is no forum--[[File:Mr toast.jpg|link=Toast]][[User:Milwin|<span style="color:yellow;font-weight:bold">'''milwin'''</span>]][[File:my toaster.jpg|link=User talk:milwin|Wanna get toasty :3]] 11:54, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:* Well, generally speaking- Yes. You need to make a thread on the forum and people need to voice their opinion on it. But you should tell me the comic, if I know it and it's bad i'll give you a green light right now. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 11:55, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
::*well it's not a webcomic you probably know, but it's a dbz fanfic called Dragon ball multiverse, not the concept is cool and the art is great. But there is one problem with all of that, the author salagar is know for his mary sue characters that he prefers over other characters in the db universe. He even admits many times that he changed many DB logic to his own because he didn't like it.And worst of all is that he didn't change, he hasn't improve since all those years in his story writing, and we can see clear biased favoritism over characters, also according to salager's logic future gohan is stronger than dabura yet weaker than 18&17 ^_^.--[[File:Mr toast.jpg|link=Toast]][[User:Milwin|<span style="color:yellow;font-weight:bold">'''milwin'''</span>]][[File:my toaster.jpg|link=User talk:milwin|Wanna get toasty :3]] 12:08, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::* Honestly man? This sounds like a bad reason to write a review, but it's not up to me to decide. The problem is- You have to make a new thread to ask people if you can review it, to do that you need an account on the old BWW, but you can't make an account because wikidot made us be privet and and we hit the 1000 user limit for free wikis.<br />
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::: It will be a while until I figure out how to make a new forum. So this will have to wait.[[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 12:16, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::::* ok I'm gonna gather my thoughts and write why I dislike this webcomic, send me a message on edf when the forums are up.--[[File:Mr toast.jpg|link=Toast]][[User:Milwin|<span style="color:yellow;font-weight:bold">'''milwin'''</span>]][[File:my toaster.jpg|link=User talk:milwin|Wanna get toasty :3]] 12:38, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::* You know what? Write down what you want to say and i'll make the thread for you. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 12:41, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::::::* thx, DBM is just as confusing, overpowered and out of character moments as Dbgt, in same ways worse. Its fanmade but still.. I also give up on arguing with people on Kanzenshuu forum. They arent really having any good point. Its just repeating themselves over and over again"Vegeta has to be good or else he wont get the Mystic power up." "We know much about Hanasia as we do about Bardock. Shes not a Mary Sue. She was killed by Rachi so she isnt perfect!". Im done with it to be honest lol.<br />
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::::::* Funny how Salgar likes to bash GT and what not, DBM has even more plotholes than GT (Broly fighting evenly with Vegito, Gohan being able to give away his mystic power, etc...)<br />
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::::::*But Salagir REALLY dropped the ball there, Dabura is stronger than 17, 18, 19, and 20 combined. Yet somehow Future Gohan is able to match Dabura in a fight and even kill him in the end...WTF?!<br />
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::::::*The thing I hate, that they give HUGE plot armor to certain characters. I mean how did U13 Kakarot get so strong without training? How did U13 Vegeta turn into a Super Saiyan at Namek? How come Dabura didn't kill Gohan in the Mirai universe? etc...<br />
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::::::*There are many characters that are out of characters like when gohan was givving his mystic power to the saiyans, gohan would never try to make a deal with the bad guys he could've just told them to fuck off since they can't touch him or hurt him since they would be disqualified from the tournament.SO WHY WOULD HE HELP THEM.<br />
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::::::*"Salagar said that he considers DBM more canon then DBGT"<br />
So he basically believes that the fan comic that hes writing is more canon than what the studio that funded the original Dragonball and DBZ made. Wow.<br />
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::::::*He makes specials now and then which explains the back story of certain characters, but he REALLY makes crappy and boring ones as well like the bojack one.<br />
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::::::*In the latest chapter he made vegito lose becuase of a dirty trick, but he made him look like a crybaby,whats funny is that Vegito beat Wanked Powered Broly the exact same way. Out of the ring for 30 seconds on both ends. Vegito knows he lost fair and square otherwise he wouldnt use that tactic on Broly. Now the rules are stupid because someone did the same thing to him.It's childish and inexcusable for someone in his position. He knows he's the most powerful being there, he should be responsible with that power instead of throwing a big tantrum and attacking people who had nothing to do with it. Anger is not an excuse that kind of behavior. He's had plenty years to learn how control himself, the Vegeta and Goku side of him are gone, he is his own person now. He tells Bra to control her anger (Which she didnt) yet he cant control himself. What a hypocrite.--[[File:Mr toast.jpg|link=Toast]][[User:Milwin|<span style="color:yellow;font-weight:bold">'''milwin'''</span>]][[File:my toaster.jpg|link=User talk:milwin|Wanna get toasty :3]] 12:59, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::* Okay, I made a thread on the forum... Although I don't think anyone will understand what you are talking about... it sounds like you want to write a review because you are mad at this comic for fucking up the show's internat cannon about who is stronger or weaker... It's like writing a review about someone who disagrees with you about who would win in a fight between batman and superman. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 13:14, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::::::* I'm disappointed because I used to be a fan of this webcomic which is I'm mad at it, now the story writing has gone shit which is why I got a bit frustrated, you can say it had a huge downfall(especially the latest chapters).--[[File:Mr toast.jpg|link=Toast]][[User:Milwin|<span style="color:yellow;font-weight:bold">'''milwin'''</span>]][[File:my toaster.jpg|link=User talk:milwin|Wanna get toasty :3]] 13:20, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::* You have to explain what is wrong with the comic better... Besides it getting DBZ's internal mythology wrong.[[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 13:21, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::*That's because it's salager's version of dbz, and like I said there are many plot armor in the story,and I think I mentioned the mary sue.--[[File:Mr toast.jpg|link=Toast]][[User:Milwin|<span style="color:yellow;font-weight:bold">'''milwin'''</span>]][[File:my toaster.jpg|link=User talk:milwin|Wanna get toasty :3]] 13:24, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::*Anyway see if it's fit for a review or anything, I'm going back to developing the rpg game we're working on.--[[File:Mr toast.jpg|link=Toast]][[User:Milwin|<span style="color:yellow;font-weight:bold">'''milwin'''</span>]][[File:my toaster.jpg|link=User talk:milwin|Wanna get toasty :3]] 13:32, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::* Gook luck with that. I'll let you know what the guys say.[[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 13:35, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==hi theres admins]==<br />
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helo my name is spilunk sna i am here to help with an aritcle idea i had bout a webcomic i know caled calbin and jobbs which was popular in news. its about a galbin and a jobbs and their adventuress trhogu time. pleas ehalfp [[User:Spilunk|Spilunk]] ([[User talk:Spilunk|talk]]) 13:23, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Collective Reviews ==<br />
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I've started working on a template for webcomic collective reviews. I have a rough outline right now. Would you like me to send it in a private message to your profile on the old wiki, or just post it here?--[[User:Izzus|Izzus]] ([[User talk:Izzus|talk]]) 14:47, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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* Post it here. There is no reason to keep it a secret. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 14:48, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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* Gotcha.--[[User:Izzus|Izzus]] ([[User talk:Izzus|talk]]) 14:55, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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* Oh! I see! I misunderstood what you meant... Yes! This is a wonderfull idea. I also like it because in a few days I was about to make series templates for KatBox, SNAFU, Fresh Epics, CMX910 and probably the crap that Shomer of L.I.C.D sponsors. This way the templates can also have a main article that is linked to them... I like this idea! Good work! Show me when you think it is done. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 15:02, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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* Very cool, I shall. --[[User:Izzus|Izzus]] ([[User talk:Izzus|talk]]) 15:26, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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* I'm confident that this is polished enough. --[[User:Izzus|Izzus]] ([[User talk:Izzus|talk]]) 16:55, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br>How easy is it to navigate the site? Do they use blindingly high-contrast color schemes which burn out your eyes? Are the links tiny as hell and difficult to identify?<br />
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|'''Community:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br>Is the community full of irrational manchildren? Perverts? Are they actually decent? Is there a community at all?<br />
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|'''Store:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br>If the site has a store, rate it. If not, say there isn't one and move on.<br />
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|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br>Summary of other things you feel like including.<br />
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|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br>How do you feel after writing this review?<br />
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===Introduction===<br />
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Tell us a little about how you found out about this collective, what your first impressions were, and why you decided that it was bad.<br />
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===The Comics===<br />
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Talk about the comics they have on the site. No need to give a full review for each one, just give us a general summary. If there are too many comics to go over, tell us about the popular ones instead.<br />
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===Community===<br />
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Does the site have a community forum, IRC, or chat box? If so, you are encouraged to shit talk them into oblivion. Give a layout of the community, and in the case of forums, what goes on in each section. Feel free to mention notably obnoxious users, mods, and admins, as well as any drama which has spawned due to said people. If there is no on-site community, remove this section and continue the review.<br />
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===Social Media===<br />
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Does the site have a facebook account? Twitter? Tell us about it.<br />
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===Various Failures===<br />
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This is the part where you get to tell us about the bad things which don't pertain to the community, comics, or social media.<br />
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===Conclusion===<br />
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Give your final thoughts on the site.<br />
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===Links===<br />
* Links go here.<br />
* Try to have more than one.<br />
* Three+ is ideal.<br />
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=== Okay===<br />
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::*1) Looks good... "Social Media" will probably be useless... I don't remember any webcomic group that has a facebook or anything like that. Annd if they do I doubt there is anything to say about them.<br />
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::*2) "Various Failures" will probably also be useless... We can keep it, but I can''t think of any way a webcomic collective can fail that is not the failure of one of the webcomic artist or fans. The only way a webcomic groups fails ''as a group'' is by virtue of joining together a bunch f really bad webcomics.<br />
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::*3) Now the question is: "What to do with this?"... Should we make a new page for this template? We are only going to get a limited amout of use out of it because there are only so many of these groups we can review. The only ones I can think of are: SNAFU, Fresh Epics, KatBox, Rayen Shomer Productions, CMX910 and maaaaaybe Comic Genessis. That's six pages this can be used for, tops.<br><br />
::There are also "LoveShack" and "Tomboy", but they aren't bad in any way... Point is: Template done, what now?[[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 17:31, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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*Understandable. I initially designed the template thinking about how I would review Drunkduck or SNAFU, and included the topics I would touch upon with those reviews. I think that since the template's topic is so niche it would be a good idea to hand it out to people who want to write the review rather than make a whole new page for it. At least, that's my two cents. --[[User:Izzus|Izzus]] ([[User talk:Izzus|talk]]) 17:24, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::* I still wanna make a page. First- so it will be saved somewhere other than my user-page. And second- so that if anyone wants to write a review about a group he will know that this is an option+ have a ready-made template.[[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 17:31, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::* That seems reasonable. I look forward to the finalized page. --[[User:Izzus|Izzus]] ([[User talk:Izzus|talk]]) 18:38, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::::* The finalized page is just a copy/paste of what you just posted here. Or do you mean the first review made with it? [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 18:55, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::* In fact, here it is- [[Webcomic Group Review Template]].<br />
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:::::::* Both, sort of. I thought you were going to remove the social media section and touch it up, but a copy paste job is good too. As for the first review under that template, I do look forward to it. --[[User:Izzus|Izzus]] ([[User talk:Izzus|talk]]) 19:43, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::* The first one will probably be your DrunkDuck/SNAFU thing... people will need an example of what to do before any of them tries it himself OI suspect. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 19:50, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Hey there. ==<br />
Hey there, I am a new member here and I just want to ask one question. Are we allowed to fix the grammatical errors of the reviews here? [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 06:41, 17 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:* Not only can but encouraged to do so... we often have overlooked mistakes on some reviews and anyone who is willing to help fix them will have my gratitude. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 12:10, 17 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:* Okay, thanks. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 06:36, 18 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Webcomic Groups page ==<br />
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Hey, long-time lurker from the old website. Quick question, are you the same Oddguy that I sometimes see pop up over at Shittywebcomics?<br />
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Anyways, I notice on the new site a bunch of comics have a template for major webcomic hosts like keenspot or pixie trix. I like the idea, but I think we can also make a page so that it's easy to navigate comics by host, and perhaps add some extra information like a brief history of the host and perhaps some other comics/affiliates that don't have a review on this site. What do you think? [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 19:57, 18 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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EDIT: Derp. I look up and it seems someone already has the same idea, they just used the word collective and I didn't catch it at first. [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 19:59, 18 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::* To answer your question - I don't know. They quoted me a number of times on things I never said. At first they quoted something someone else said on another website I use and I assumed it was a mistake. But when I corrected them they made fun of me and said that I am not the only oddguy. I am not sure if that was just a joke or they really thought I am some other oddguy, but now it has become a running gag where they attribute random quotes to "oddguy" which if really funny to me. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 21:05, 18 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::*OK then. Well, my last idea might be already taken, but I noticed on your list that you wanted to get Tails Gets Trolled reviewed. I'm actually reading it right now and have some prior wiki experience. Would it be ok if I started drafting a review on my page? [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 23:31, 18 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::::* Uh... actually, I have a sort of secret thing going on regarding that comic that I don't want to get into details about because it will ruin the surprise. It might still be a while, but that's why I am not writing a review yet and don't want anyone else to. Sorry. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 07:00, 19 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Forums ==<br />
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I'm getting "Sorry, you can not add new post in this thread. Only members of this site, site administrators and perhaps selected moderators are allowed to do it." no matter which forum I post in. Even ones like the "Challenges to Existing Reviews". Why is this? [[User:DentsAndDings|DentsAndDings]] ([[User talk:DentsAndDings|talk]]) 09:18, 26 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::* I should really get on that............ The thing is we moved to this site from another site because we were violating ToS over there. So they made out site privet and everyone who wanted to read it had to join. But free sites on wikidot have a 1000 user limit. So when we hit it no one could join our site and we moved here instead. But I haven't made a new forum for us yet and anyone who hasn't already joined the old site can't join now or pot on the forum............. I have been slacking on this for too long. I promise that I will make a new forum for us some time soon. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 10:03, 26 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Lesbot ==<br />
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Hey Oddguy, is there anyway to get in contact with Lesbot? I need to ask (presumably) her if she has a certain comic archived. Thanks a lot man.<br />
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[[User:Laurie Mondone|Laurie Mondone]] ([[User talk:Laurie Mondone|talk]]) 22:21, 3 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:* I can try to look her up but I don't think "Lesbot" is a very original username so I doubt I will be able to. What comic is it? [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 06:47, 4 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Oh, it's Shredded Moose. I just wanted to see if Lesbot still had the comics that she used for the images she posted in the Shredded Moose review. I'd be grateful if someone has anything from that comic saved since it's so rare, nowadays. <br />
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On a side note, I do have an interesting reaction from Shredded Moose's author. After he flipped out and destroyed his whole website, Brew moved on to illustrating several children's books, ironically after he wrote a comic about aborting them and shooting them. Just goes to show that negative reviews can do something positive for the world.<br />
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[[User:Laurie Mondone|Laurie Mondone]] ([[User talk:Laurie Mondone|talk]]) 15:58, 4 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::* I see... I will try to contact her but I think she just linked to the site. I doubt she saved any of it. You might find some of it still saved on [http://web.archive.org/web/20130701000000*/http://www.shreddedmoose.com/ web archive] if you look real hard... About the reaction... do you have something he posted? And was the reaction to OUR review or just in general? [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 16:36, 4 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks! I already tried the web archive to no avail sadly.<br />
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And nah, I think it was more a reaction in general to the whole internet calling him out. I only know this because I stumbled onto his site: http://www.brianartwork.com/ I just think it's funny that after three years of being the edgemiester, he moved on to children's books.<br />
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[[User:Laurie Mondone|Laurie Mondone]] ([[User talk:Laurie Mondone|talk]]) 17:01, 4 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::::* Hahaha... that is pretty funny. I'll let you know if I find anything out abourt where to find some of the comic. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 17:52, 4 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Confused ==<br />
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Hi, I'm new here. It's been said that if I want to suggest a webcomic to be reviewed, I have to put it on the forum, but the forum link keeps taking me to the old site. Can you help?<br />
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::* Yeah, sorry about that. We moved sites because our old site got shut down and it won't allow new members to join now. I need to make a new forum to solve this problem and I intend to do that in the next few days. I actually already found a good free forum site and made one but i'm still playing around with it before I make it public. So wait a few more days and you can post your topic on our new forum... sorry for the inconvenience. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 18:54, 6 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Sinfest update ==<br />
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I don't know if you remember, but a while back I posted a suggestion for updating the sinfest article on the forums. You said you'd eventually add it, but it's been a while since then. Do you mind if I work it in myself? Most likely I'll use most of what I already wrote and put it in the writing section. [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 17:54, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:*Alright, do your thing. But I wanna talk about this a bit before you do because I have to be honest... some of the points you make? Really reaching. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 22:14, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Ok, but do you mind weighing in on which points you think need work? I think its best if you go back to the original forum post and point out which ones. I'm considering condensing anyways, so I could simply just pluck out the weaker points and just write just a paragraph or two on consistency. [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 03:02, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::* Okay, i'll get to it sometime soon. I'm at work right now. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 14:00, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Contact ==<br />
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Hi Oddguy, could you contact me directly ASAP (via email) at lcawte (at) shoutwiki.com. Thanks --[[User:Lcawte|&#91;&#91;User:Lcawte&#124;Lewis Cawte&#93;&#93; (&#91;&#91;User talk:Lcawte&#124;talk&#93;&#93;) &#60;staff /&#62;]] ([[User talk:Lcawte|talk]]) 16:47, 6 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Category Link ==<br />
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Hi Oddguy,<br />
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I created [[:category:Webcomics]] and linked all webcomic review pages to it, and am thinking of putting non-review articles such as [[BWW Tutorials and Lectures]] in another category. I did so because I was just hitting the random button and didn't see any lists of articles. I used the [http://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Special:AllPages all pages link] which I only know about because I'm an administrator on a couple of non-related wikis.<br />
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There's no link to this category, obviously, on the main page, but I thought new visitors to the site might want to see it. [[User:ArthurD2|ArthurD2]] ([[User talk:ArthurD2|talk]]) 17:27, 10 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:* Oh! Thank you so much! I can never bring myself to do this kind of stuff. '''<3''' [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 20:43, 10 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Fair Use Liscenses ==<br />
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Hey, I see you're adding fair use tags to images. I think that's a good idea, and while I'm not 100% certain about how it all is supposed to work, Normally I see them put on the file page itself rather than the talk page. [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 15:19, 8 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:* I'm not 100% on this either but Shoutwiki asked me to do this for images that complain about copyright... The wife of the guy that does RA has been trying to get all the Frech Epics reviews taken down. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 17:09, 8 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::* Well yes, obviously, they're a good idea. I just think it'd be more useful to have them on the file page instead of the talk, as that's the normal wiki practice. It's also easier to find that way. [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 23:58, 8 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== What the hell, dude?==<br />
Almost every other fucking review you write uses the words "tranny" or "retarded," sometimes multiple times. I have a hard time believing no one's called you on your shit before, so you've probably been deleting criticism and will delete this one too, but I'm going to write it anyway. Fuck you dude. I enjoyed this website until I stumbled across the reviews written by ''you'', the admin, and realized that you're actually a bigoted piece of shit. [[User:Johnnyo|Johnnyo]] ([[User talk:Johnnyo|talk]]) 01:51, 14 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:* Actually, no. No one has called me out on it since this isn't tumblr you quivering little pussy. I have, however, been called out on it on some other sites, but I don't give a shit. Therefore, to you I say: Fuck off you tranny retard.<br />
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::P.S- I also make fun of fat people. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 03:41, 14 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:::* Wait a minute... I actually just did a search for the words "Retard", "Tranny" and "Retarded" on the site and found that we have about 80 pages with the word retard/retarded, most of which were not made by me (obviously) and three pages with the word tranny, two of which are mine. If those words offend you then you should have fucked off a long time ago. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 03:59, 14 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== New Template ==<br />
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I created a draft for a new template on my [http://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/User:Plarblman/Sandbox sandbox page]. I think it'd be useful for us to distinguish between actual porn comics and cheesecake comics. Besides having different levels of sexual content in them, I think it also helps identify comics that are too pathetic to go full porn. Tell me what you think. [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 16:33, 25 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:* That's a good idea. It'll save us more arguments over what should and shouldn't be tagged NSFW. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 17:05, 25 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:* At least some cheesecake comics may still count as NSFW, but creating a distinction will let readers know how NSFW it is. I'm thinking of doing a code yellow: cheesecake and a code red: porn distinction to show the severity. I'll modify it further to show you what I mean. [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 18:05, 25 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::* Okay. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 20:41, 25 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:::* If you're satisfied with it, I can start adding it to reviews right away. The only question is whether or not I use it to replace the NSFW template or add it underneath. What do you think? [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 22:26, 25 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::::* Yeah, replace it. comics that are tagged NSFW and are just cheesecake, replace the template with the yellow template. Comics that are NSFW and are tagged NSFW replace the template with the red template. That's gonna be our new NSFW template and i'll retire the old one. Don't forget to make template pages... You know how to do that, right? [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 07:24, 26 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:::::* Yeah. I'll get on that right away. I'll just do the easy thing and edit the current NSFW template with the red one so that I don't have to go into every review and replace it manually. [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 14:05, 26 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Adding links in other pages ==<br />
Hey Mr. Oddguy, I was reading some miscellaneous pages such as the Mary-Sue page and saw some words that could be linked to other pages/other comic reviews (like talking about CAD, but there is no link to the review), am I allowed to do this? --[[User:Eldeon|Eldeon]] ([[User talk:Eldeon|talk]]) 21:41, 3 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:* Oh yeah, sure, that would be wonderful (please don't call me "mr.") [[File:Busey.png|link= User:Oddguy]] [[User:Oddguy|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:red;font-weight:bold;font-size: 16px">oddguy</span>]] [[File:Busey.png|link= User Talk:Oddguy]] 22:11, 3 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:**I apologize; I did not mean to offend.--[[User:Eldeon|Eldeon]] ([[User talk:Eldeon|talk]]) 20:25, 4 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::* Hahaha all good man i'm just joking around but there is no need for formality i'm just a site admin. [[File:Busey.png|link= User:Oddguy]] [[User:Oddguy|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:red;font-weight:bold;font-size: 16px">oddguy</span>]] [[File:Busey.png|link= User Talk:Oddguy]] 20:40, 4 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== spambots ==<br />
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You seem to be having some trouble with those spambots; I noticed they keep uploading the same pages over and over. I'm not familiar with shoutwiki but on wikia you're able to block certain pages from being created. Have you tried that? [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 20:23, 29 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::* I doubt that can be done but i'll check. [[File:Busey.png|link= User:Oddguy]] [[User:Oddguy|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:red;font-weight:bold;font-size: 16px">oddguy</span>]] [[File:Busey.png|link= User Talk:Oddguy]] 08:12, 30 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== The spam page ==<br />
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I actually meant deleting [[Why Shemale Cam Is No Friend To Small Business]] the spam page itself, not just the talk page. - [[User:LucidFox|LucidFox]] ([[User talk:LucidFox|talk]]) 08:32, 25 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Sonichu ==<br />
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A pagemove vandal moved the page to [[Nigger nigger nigger345]] and spread lies about you. I restored the content, but can you please restore the page title and block the vandal? Thanks. [[User:DentsAndDings|DentsAndDings]] ([[User talk:DentsAndDings|talk]]) 19:14, 30 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
: ShoutWiki staff are already one step ahead of you ;) --[[User:Lcawte|Lewis Cawte]] ([[User talk:Lcawte|talk]]) <staff /> 19:18, 30 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::* Thanks :) [[File:Busey.png|link= User:Oddguy]] [[User:Oddguy|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:red;font-weight:bold;font-size: 16px">oddguy</span>]] [[File:Busey.png|link= User Talk:Oddguy]] 19:27, 30 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
::: Should be cleaned up for the second time today. We'll be turning on some rate limiting for page moves for "new" users so it should take determined vandals a lot longer to do something like this if they ever want to try it again. --[[User:Lcawte|Lewis Cawte]] ([[User talk:Lcawte|talk]]) <staff /> 20:00, 30 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Oddguy, Lcawte: The Furthia High page is still messed up; it's at [[FurtODDGUY TOLD CYN HE WOULD RAPE HER hia High]] and it looks like it was made a redirect to itself. Please fix? [[User:DentsAndDings|DentsAndDings]] ([[User talk:DentsAndDings|talk]]) 07:14, 1 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:: JUSTICE FOR CYN AND ALL WOMEN!<br />
::: Wikis For the Wiki God Articles for the Article throne. Seriously though working at restoring a bunch of the crap that's been done by this clown but there's a bunch of articles that need deleting now. [[User:Horerczy|Horerczy]]<br />
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==New Here==<br />
my name is Ekaclatrommi pronounced as E-kac-la-trom-mi and im 13 years old<br />
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am i doing this right?<br />
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== ODDGUY THREATENED CYN'S MOTHER ==<br />
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This user, [[User:ODDGUY THREATENED CYN'S MOTHER]], has been engaging in page move vandalism. I recommend an indefinite block. [[User:DonovanW1996|DonovanW1996]] ([[User talk:DonovanW1996|talk]]) 15:36, 1 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Pagemove vandalism ==<br />
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Hey, the wiki's getting hit hard with pagemove vandals who have it out for you. Any chance you can appoint any other admins to deal with it more quickly? I'd gladly volunteer. [[User:DentsAndDings|DentsAndDings]] ([[User talk:DentsAndDings|talk]]) 19:02, 1 February 2015 (UTC)</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Pronquest&diff=13908Pronquest2015-02-01T19:00:44Z<p>DentsAndDings: Undo revision 13552 by ODDGUY THREATENED CYN'S MOTHER (talk)</p>
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Original review author:'''<br />
|[http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/the-luigiian The Luigiian]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Webcomic name:'''<br />
|[http://www.pronquest.com/ Pronquest]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Author:'''<br />
|[http://www.pronquest.com/ "Ebeneezer Splooge"]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Start Date:'''<br />
|July 6, 2008<br />
|-<br />
|'''End Date:'''<br />
|Ongoing<br />
|-<br />
|'''Genre:'''<br />
|Pornographic comedy<br />
|-<br />
|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
|Everything.<br />
|}<br />
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'''Rating Summary'''<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable" style="width:600px"><br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Art:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
CGI is terrible in porno, and in this one it's just there to substitute for real actors because the artist is too lazy and probably has no friends to help.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|There isn't one.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Characters:'''<br />
|Not a one, unless you call mindless fucking machines people, which I don't.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Satanic vibes:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
It's definitely evil, and like Satan himself it tells jokes as it tortures you.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]] <br />
Symbolic of the downfall of Western civilization.<br />
|}<br />
</div><br />
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<br />
==Background==<br />
<br />
For a variety of reasons, three-dimensional computer-animated porno comics are the worst that the Internet has to offer. For starters, they cross the Great Uncanny Valley like Romans crossing the Rubicon, and at the end of their long journey they yell to the heavens "LOOK AT US! WE ALMOST LOOK LIKE REAL HUMANS! KIND OF!"<br />
<br />
While computer animation may look good animating a toy robot, it tends not to do very well attempting to render Jane Ho and John Doe playing hide the salami behind the old shed. A lot of these pornographic CGI animators are really, truly talented, but there is only so far you can go with artificial-looking robot people porn. Keep that in mind while looking at ''Pronquest''. Or not. I wouldn't blame you if you hid your eyes.<br />
<br />
''Pronquest'' has a ton of influences swirling around its porcelain bowl. There's ''World of Porncraft'' for one. And of course, there is the rich history of fandom perversion in general, which has in the past led to such horrors as Captain Kirk rimming Doctor Spock while pissing in the mouth of Liutenant Uhura on the steppes of Weembo-6, arch rival of the Galactic Federation. If you're the squeamish type you probably shouldn't have read the last sentence.<br />
<br />
Anyway, these porno comics are defined by what fandom they piggyback on (or in this case ride like a two-dollar pony), and while ''World of Porncraft'' has its WOW-worshipping style, ''Pronquest'' has... not much. <br />
<br />
<br />
==Downfall== <br />
<br />
Really, the name alone is downfall enough. This most terrible of titulos, this mockery of monikers, "Pronquest", is the kind of name not even the worst, least creative pornographer in the world would use. ''World of Porncraft'' at least makes it sound like it has a connection with a fantasy world. ''Pronquest''? Well, I'm sure some fantasy story has the word "quest" in the title, and sounds vaguely similar to this title, but any sort of name like this is pretty much the very epitome of generic. A "quest for pron" sounds like a fourteen-year-old basement dweller's trip down to the gas station to get a ''Playboy''. He could be wearing a wizard's garb for all I care but it doesn't make it any less pathetic.<br />
<br />
And then there's the lead girl. Any porno comic worth it's salt should be able to have at least a halfway-presentable lead girl. For fuck's sake, the author can draw her any way he likes without any sort of issues whatsoever, it's not like he has to hire a live model. And so author "Ebeneezer Splooge" gives us... pedobait. Straight up little girl with big tits and huge feet. She's not even pretty, let alone sexy. Giant eyes, wonky proportions and a Bratz-redux anatomy might look okay on a ten-dollar K-mart clearance sale doll, but it's creepy as fuck and just-plain-fucking-wrong on a porno character.<br />
<br />
Of course, Splooge is being asked to compete against porn comics like [[Shayla the Pink Mouse]], which have strangely androgynous, vaguely underage lead characters who have sex in every other comic panels and who are only not little children because their respective artists say they aren't. The fact that Internet users go after that sort of thing should be a huge fucking tell in and of itself, but I'm going to blame the artist here based on the logic that a person going by the name "Ebeneezer Splooge" is probably a pedophile and almost certainly proud enough of his child-raping persona to show it to the rest of the world through a comic in which a little girl gets raped by much older people of both sexes. Sickening? You bet. You'd have to search long and hard to find a porno comic more gross and perverse than ''Pronquest''.<br />
<br />
==Story and Plot==<br />
<br />
You know those pornos where the story and plot are optional and only a backdrop for nonstop fucking? If you think ''Pronquest'' is different, knowing as you do that it's on //this// site, you are retarded, no offense to actual retarded people intended, because they are smarter than you. Seriously, plot? Story? Get off this site. This comic has fucking, fucking, fucking, fucking, fucking.<br />
<br />
==Art review==<br />
<br />
[[File:0o9pqSu.png|thumb|right|300px|Foreplay, I guess]]<br />
<br />
[http://www.pronquest.com/1/hello-world/hentai Remember how I said the "heroine" looks like a little girl?] I wasn't lying. Well, not really a little girl, more like a forty-year-old man pretending to be a little girl. He calls himself "Libby Belle." Yeah, I don't want to touch the double entendre there with a forty-foot pole. He looks as girly as possible, only with big breasts. And he is definitely a he. Can't forget that little detail.<br />
<br />
Click "Next" and you are greeted to our primary male character. He's big, brutish, and obviously the fuckbuddy, probably played by a similar forty-year-old man who digs playing out his little pederasty fetish. And he tells terrible jokes. Oh, this can only get good from here. This is some seriously clever shit he's laying down, am I right guys? Just downright thigh-slappers! I can't wait to hear the zingers he'll make about wayward priests and rabbis later on, I'm sure they'll just be pants-wetting ''hilarious''.<br />
<br />
His name is Lombo. [http://www.pronquest.com/6/lombos-brain/hentai His penis is horrifying.] Said penis directs him to [http://www.pronquest.com/8/set-that-froggy-free/hentai remove pedogirl's shirt], leading us to begin our critique of this comic's attention to anatomy. As one might expect, not good. I imagine that a wizard could give magical boob jobs in this fantasy world, but I would have to fault him on putting them on a little girl, and more importantly doing such a piss-poor job. I have not before this comic seen tits attached by the armpits like this, nor do I ever want to again.<br />
<br />
For someone so obsessed with sex organs, Splooge sure can't draw 'em. Again, if you're going to draw cocks, [http://www.pronquest.com/9/what-am-i-doing-wrong/hentai at least fucking know how to draw them properly], because good lord the dicksnake this sex-happy giant has between his legs is frightening.<br />
<br />
[http://www.pronquest.com/10/everyone-likes-a-change-in-scenery/hentai This strip] is the worst of all I have yet seen in this comic in terms of anatomy. The feet, pants, breasts, eyes, face, arms, spider hands, and hair on our pedogirl are all terrible. Which leaves the bellybutton as the sole feature that's even presentable, and that's faint praise because she looks like her last meal came all too long ago and was far too small. Oh yeah, and her ass also looks completely wrong. I'm pretty sure it's the only thing large enough below her stomach to support her beltless pants.<br />
<br />
Later on, a red frog burns their clothes off, and we find [http://www.pronquest.com/15/morning-wood/hentai more horror.] The penis is bad, but for my money the faces this guy draws on his two lead characters is the most nightmarish aspect of this wholly bad comic. The girl's eyes are perpetually sunken, appearing as if they could pop out of her tiny skull any moment, her pupils dilated and appearing drugged at all moments like a cracked-out coke whore, her mouth constantly disfigured into some nightmarish caricature of an expression, and attached to her body it's like looking at an Asian sex slave shipped to her mentally retarded buyer, whose square-jawed, small-toothed and uttery hideous mouth, jutting forehead and empty-headed expressions remind the viewer of the most horrible Deliverance comparisons imaginable.<br />
<br />
All the women look awful, though. [http://www.pronquest.com/248/lucky-push/hentai One particular woman] is drawn so badly that you would think it took effort to draw her so badly. How could "Splooge" look at that deformed back and think it looked right? Or [http://www.pronquest.com/278/in-with-the-new-out-with-the/hentai her cheeks], or eyes? Or any other part of her anatomy, for that matter? <br />
<br />
And then there's the way he draws semen, as [http://www.pronquest.com/20/good-to-the-last-drop/hentai here.] I heaved looking at this strip, by the way. As well as I did on many, many others.<br />
<br />
Aw fuck it, let's move on to the<br />
<br />
==Writing review== <br />
<br />
As by now we're getting into as much plot as this nightmare is capable of mustering, and [http://www.pronquest.com/28/cunt-fucking-grasshoppers/hentai the girl is called to fuck an elderly farmer] who challenges her retarded pedophile owner for the role of most disgusting hideous white trash slime impersonation. Seriously, he is unbelievably sickening in the extreme, and it becomes clear that she has to be drugged constantly or else there is no fucking way that she could ever fuck any living creature that looks like [http://www.pronquest.com/29/hot-slut-needs-love/hentai this].<br />
<br />
If I could I would stop here, because this comic by this point is turning my stomach into knots. Jesus Christ in Heaven save my soul, the writing in this comic is the last ingredient in what could very well be called the webcomic from Hell. [http://www.pronquest.com/33/the-pipes-are-clean/hentai "Now that we've got the rust out, it's time to start laying some pipe."] "Schlonk." "Hurry it up then, I gotta walk to town if your friend gets Joe his mojo back". [http://www.pronquest.com/36/hurry-up/hentai "Hurry up? No problem, but I'm not sure you'll be able to walk afterwards."] In case you were willing to give the writer the benefit of the doubt, we can safely tag him as a rapist in addition to being a pedophile, a bad writer, a bad artist, and utterly sickening beyond all reason.<br />
<br />
Some more quotes: "Okay, show of hands: how many of you read 'Carnal Combat' and had the 'Mortal Kombat' theme start playing in your head? Now, how many of you had 'Everybody Love Kung Fu Fighting!' playing in your head?"<br />
<br />
[http://www.pronquest.com/38/dam-sticky/hentai ":D"]<br />
<br />
[http://www.pronquest.com/39/the-right-hole/hentai "With Libby, I doubt there's a wrong hole :D"]<br />
<br />
[http://www.pronquest.com/42/grinding-xp/hentai "Now that gives a whole (hole?) new meaning to grinding XP..."]<br />
<br />
[http://www.pronquest.com/48/blame-the-hamericans/hentai "I am reading it and loving it, this comic kicks major ass!"]<br />
<br />
And yes, those are the fans. Like any truly sickening comic, this one has a small but utterly committed fanbase that consists of some of the creepiest creatures the human mind can comprehend. I can only see them as rapists and pedophiles. I cannot imagine them as any less. Even if they don't now, they will at some point or other wind up raping or molesting somebody. It's inevitable. This isn't just kinky or different, it's childlike girls getting fucked by seventy-five year old farmers. It's giants breaking womens' legs with their gigantic cocks. We're talking Marquis de Sade territory in this fairly-new comic. <br />
<br />
Later on, the main character [http://www.pronquest.com/60/why-you-shouldnt-always-think-with-your-little-head/hentai turns into a frog.] The author says, "Originally Libby was supposed to capture a 'named' frog in the frog collection quest, but I thought it would be funnier later if it was a character turned into a frog." I have no idea how he finds this funny, but it does say "free fucking funny hentai cartoony porn daily webcomic" in the header, so who am I to argue? Fucking funny, or words thrown in like darts at a dartboard trying to hit the bullseye of a successful Google search to get some hits? I'm guessing the latter since this comic is, at heart, a sickening plea for money and hits. <br />
<br />
It's so predictable it's boring. The only places where it gets interesting is when the comic becomes so sickening and fucked up that you can't look away, like a pornographic car crash. [http://www.pronquest.com/97/customer-service/hentai Rape scenes] [http://www.pronquest.com/168/you-call-that-help/hentai galore], for example, as well as [http://www.pronquest.com/134/snuggles/hentai genitals that can talk]. And of course [http://www.pronquest.com/122/slogging-the-frog/hentai naked fight scenes between men and the frog character] are always case studies in abject stupidity of the kind [http://www.pronquest.com/129/spiderfrog/hentai only a person] [http://www.pronquest.com/146/philosophical-beefcake/hentai with this kind] [http://www.pronquest.com/326/what-defines-a-monster/hentai of creative deficit] [http://www.pronquest.com/362/show-us-a-sign/hentai would concoct].<br />
<br />
And, in case you might think it improves... no. [http://www.pronquest.com/434/but-i-dont-want-to-be-a-dick-girl/hentai Every cliched sex fetish] is put in. The copious pederasty [http://www.pronquest.com/457/thank-you-jeebus/hentai gets worse.] The ugly cock snakes make way for [http://www.pronquest.com/502/the-pumpkins-are-up-to-something/hentai full blown tentacle-rape porn]. And of course the semen and splooge make way for [http://www.pronquest.com/567/it-is-only-a-test/hentai straight up fucking guro-style depravity.] And those characters are ripping the intestines out of a ''four-year-old child.'' For no fucking reason whatsoever. Oh, except for being funny. Because we all know how funny it is to imitate Eric Cheung's infamous guro page in CGI. Great job, Splooge.<br />
<br />
==Author biography== <br />
<br />
He is a dark priest of Satan. See below.<br />
<br />
==Conclusion/Revelations of Pure Evil==<br />
<br />
This comic is disturbing on a fundamental level that any normal human being should be able to understand. And yet webcomics fans love it. I'm talking straight-up adore the kind of nightmares that this comic uses and throws out for even more horrific nightmares. How much do webcomics people love this webcomic? Well, it's number 88 on the "Top Webcomics" list. It's number four on the WebcomicZ list. It's ranked five-out-of-five stars on the website topqualityhentai.com.<br />
<br />
To be fair, WebcomicZ's critics did in fact give the comic an F. Their remarks: "Unimpressive and uninteresting... fails on all accounts... not even the slightest bit erotic... creepy and lumpy in all the wrong places... if you like mindless low-quality porn, you might enjoy this." No. No. FUCKING GODDAMN SON OF A BITCH NOOOOOO. This comic is pederasty, this comic is rape, this comic is guro, this comic is a symbol of the decline of Western civilization. This comic, in terms of pure horror, puts most of the comics, pornographic or otherwise, on this site to ''shame''. It is proof that we are as a planet so far up Satan's puckered asshole that we actually try to find ''an audience'' for this piece of shit beyond the mortally fucked.<br />
<br />
Oh what am I saying, we live in a society that made ''Transformers II: Revenge of the Fallen'' the top box-office hit for 2009. So eat it up, you sickening perverts. <br />
<br />
Here is the society the mindless masses have made, thrown on a fucking platter for critics to try to sample, with tearing, glistening eyes crying to the masses "please no more, I cannot take any more of this sickening garbage." And the masses eat it, and they beg for more, as the critic's beating heart is ripped from his chest and sacrificed to the Bad Webcomics Satan below, and the demons cry out for more blood, more mindless fucking and perversion, and the high bad webcomics priest Ebeneezer Splooge raises his hands to the sky in this black mass of his creation, and he calls, "So the Evil One says it can be done." <br />
<br />
And it is done, for years and years more, as the great comic artists of the past, Schultz and Herriman and Watterson, are called up to his altar, and their hands are branded with the label of the comic and its evil and perversion, and their hands are called up. And the fans, the demons below cry, "more, more"; and so their intestines are ripped from their stomachs. And the demons are not satiated. <br />
<br />
And thus are the great cartoonists, Disney and Avery and Hannah and Barbera and Bluth, put upon his table; and their hands are too branded and cut off, and their intestines ripped out, and their eyes gouged free of their skulls; and the demons are not satiated. <br />
<br />
And so finally the great webcomic artists of our age, Siddell and even Krahulik and Holkins, Tracy Butler, and many others so talented, are lined up; and they tell Siddell, "Draw Annie and Kat making out." And thus by their power it is done. And he is branded, and his hands cut off, and he is thrown into the fire. And they tell Krahulik and Holkins, "Draw Tycho and Gabe 69ing while Tycho's niece licks at her uncle's asshole." And by their horrible power it is done. And they are branded, and their hands cut off, and they are thrown into the fire. And they tell Butler, "Do a three-way with Mitzi, Rocky and Freckle, while Mitzi fingers Viktor's eye socket." And by their power, as she cries out to God above for heavenly mercy, it is done, and she is thrown in the pit with the rest of them.<br />
<br />
And as they writhe, this black priest calls down after them, and he says: You who see yourself so highly, you could not beat me on the WebcomicsZ list, could you? You are so lacking in what really matters: Hits and fanbase." And Holkins and Butler and Disney and Bluth and Watterson and Herriman and all the rest are all burned to ashes.<br />
<br />
If you support this comic, I think it is safe to say you are in league with Satan.<br />
<br />
==Links==<br />
<br />
This is not a comic you want links to.<br />
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[[Category:Webcomics]]</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Pronquest&diff=13551Pronquest2015-02-01T07:47:19Z<p>DentsAndDings: </p>
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<div>{{A Bomb}}<br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Original review author:'''<br />
|[http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/the-luigiian The Luigiian]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Webcomic name:'''<br />
|[http://www.pronquest.com/ Pronquest]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Author:'''<br />
|[http://www.pronquest.com/ "Ebeneezer Splooge"]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Start Date:'''<br />
|July 6, 2008<br />
|-<br />
|'''End Date:'''<br />
|Ongoing<br />
|-<br />
|'''Genre:'''<br />
|Pornographic comedy<br />
|-<br />
|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
|Everything.<br />
|}<br />
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------<br />
<br />
'''Rating Summary'''<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable" style="width:600px"><br />
<br />
{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Art:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
CGI is terrible in porno, and in this one it's just there to substitute for real actors because the artist is too lazy and probably has no friends to help.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|There isn't one.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Characters:'''<br />
|Not a one, unless you call mindless fucking machines people, which I don't.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Satanic vibes:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
It's definitely evil, and like Satan himself it tells jokes as it tortures you.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]] <br />
Symbolic of the downfall of Western civilization.<br />
|}<br />
</div><br />
<br />
<br />
------<br />
<br />
==Background==<br />
<br />
For a variety of reasons, three-dimensional computer-animated porno comics are the worst that the Internet has to offer. For starters, they cross the Great Uncanny Valley like Romans crossing the Rubicon, and at the end of their long journey they yell to the heavens "LOOK AT US! WE ALMOST LOOK LIKE REAL HUMANS! KIND OF!"<br />
<br />
While computer animation may look good animating a toy robot, it tends not to do very well attempting to render Jane Ho and John Doe playing hide the salami behind the old shed. A lot of these pornographic CGI animators are really, truly talented, but there is only so far you can go with artificial-looking robot people porn. Keep that in mind while looking at ''Pronquest''. Or not. I wouldn't blame you if you hid your eyes.<br />
<br />
''Pronquest'' has a ton of influences swirling around its porcelain bowl. There's ''World of Porncraft'' for one. And of course, there is the rich history of fandom perversion in general, which has in the past led to such horrors as Captain Kirk rimming Doctor Spock while pissing in the mouth of Liutenant Uhura on the steppes of Weembo-6, arch rival of the Galactic Federation. If you're the squeamish type you probably shouldn't have read the last sentence.<br />
<br />
Anyway, these porno comics are defined by what fandom they piggyback on (or in this case ride like a two-dollar pony), and while ''World of Porncraft'' has its WOW-worshipping style, ''Pronquest'' has... not much. <br />
<br />
<br />
==Downfall== <br />
<br />
Really, the name alone is downfall enough. This most terrible of titulos, this mockery of monikers, "Pronquest", is the kind of name not even the worst, least creative pornographer in the world would use. ''World of Porncraft'' at least makes it sound like it has a connection with a fantasy world. ''Pronquest''? Well, I'm sure some fantasy story has the word "quest" in the title, and sounds vaguely similar to this title, but any sort of name like this is pretty much the very epitome of generic. A "quest for pron" sounds like a fourteen-year-old basement dweller's trip down to the gas station to get a ''Playboy''. He could be wearing a wizard's garb for all I care but it doesn't make it any less pathetic.<br />
<br />
And then there's the lead girl. Any porno comic worth it's salt should be able to have at least a halfway-presentable lead girl. For fuck's sake, the author can draw her any way he likes without any sort of issues whatsoever, it's not like he has to hire a live model. And so author "Ebeneezer Splooge" gives us... pedobait. Straight up little girl with big tits and huge feet. She's not even pretty, let alone sexy. Giant eyes, wonky proportions and a Bratz-redux anatomy might look okay on a ten-dollar K-mart clearance sale doll, but it's creepy as fuck and just-plain-fucking-wrong on a porno character.<br />
<br />
Of course, Splooge is being asked to compete against porn comics like [[Shayla the Pink Mouse]], which have strangely androgynous, vaguely underage lead characters who have sex in every other comic panels and who are only not little children because their respective artists say they aren't. The fact that Internet users go after that sort of thing should be a huge fucking tell in and of itself, but I'm going to blame the artist here based on the logic that a person going by the name "Ebeneezer Splooge" is probably a pedophile and almost certainly proud enough of his child-raping persona to show it to the rest of the world through a comic in which a little girl gets raped by much older people of both sexes. Sickening? You bet. You'd have to search long and hard to find a porno comic more gross and perverse than ''Pronquest''.<br />
<br />
==Story and Plot==<br />
<br />
You know those pornos where the story and plot are optional and only a backdrop for nonstop fucking? If you think ''Pronquest'' is different, knowing as you do that it's on //this// site, you are retarded, no offense to actual retarded people intended, because they are smarter than you. Seriously, plot? Story? Get off this site. This comic has fucking, fucking, fucking, fucking, fucking.<br />
<br />
==Art review==<br />
<br />
[[File:0o9pqSu.png|thumb|right|300px|Foreplay, I guess]]<br />
<br />
[http://www.pronquest.com/1/hello-world/hentai Remember how I said the "heroine" looks like a little girl?] I wasn't lying. Well, not really a little girl, more like a forty-year-old man pretending to be a little girl. He calls himself "Libby Belle." Yeah, I don't want to touch the double entendre there with a forty-foot pole. He looks as girly as possible, only with big breasts. And he is definitely a he. Can't forget that little detail.<br />
<br />
Click "Next" and you are greeted to our primary male character. He's big, brutish, and obviously the fuckbuddy, probably played by a similar forty-year-old man who digs playing out his little pederasty fetish. And he tells terrible jokes. Oh, this can only get good from here. This is some seriously clever shit he's laying down, am I right guys? Just downright thigh-slappers! I can't wait to hear the zingers he'll make about wayward priests and rabbis later on, I'm sure they'll just be pants-wetting ''hilarious''.<br />
<br />
His name is Lombo. [http://www.pronquest.com/6/lombos-brain/hentai His penis is horrifying.] Said penis directs him to [http://www.pronquest.com/8/set-that-froggy-free/hentai remove pedogirl's shirt], leading us to begin our critique of this comic's attention to anatomy. As one might expect, not good. I imagine that a wizard could give magical boob jobs in this fantasy world, but I would have to fault him on putting them on a little girl, and more importantly doing such a piss-poor job. I have not before this comic seen tits attached by the armpits like this, nor do I ever want to again.<br />
<br />
For someone so obsessed with sex organs, Splooge sure can't draw 'em. Again, if you're going to draw cocks, [http://www.pronquest.com/9/what-am-i-doing-wrong/hentai at least fucking know how to draw them properly], because good lord the dicksnake this sex-happy giant has between his legs is frightening.<br />
<br />
[http://www.pronquest.com/10/everyone-likes-a-change-in-scenery/hentai This strip] is the worst of all I have yet seen in this comic in terms of anatomy. The feet, pants, breasts, eyes, face, arms, spider hands, and hair on our pedogirl are all terrible. Which leaves the bellybutton as the sole feature that's even presentable, and that's faint praise because she looks like her last meal came all too long ago and was far too small. Oh yeah, and her ass also looks completely wrong. I'm pretty sure it's the only thing large enough below her stomach to support her beltless pants.<br />
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Later on, a red frog burns their clothes off, and we find [http://www.pronquest.com/15/morning-wood/hentai more horror.] The penis is bad, but for my money the faces this guy draws on his two lead characters is the most nightmarish aspect of this wholly bad comic. The girl's eyes are perpetually sunken, appearing as if they could pop out of her tiny skull any moment, her pupils dilated and appearing drugged at all moments like a cracked-out coke whore, her mouth constantly disfigured into some nightmarish caricature of an expression, and attached to her body it's like looking at an Asian sex slave shipped to her mentally retarded buyer, whose square-jawed, small-toothed and uttery hideous mouth, jutting forehead and empty-headed expressions remind the viewer of the most horrible Deliverance comparisons imaginable.<br />
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All the women look awful, though. [http://www.pronquest.com/248/lucky-push/hentai One particular woman] is drawn so badly that you would think it took effort to draw her so badly. How could "Splooge" look at that deformed back and think it looked right? Or [http://www.pronquest.com/278/in-with-the-new-out-with-the/hentai her cheeks], or eyes? Or any other part of her anatomy, for that matter? <br />
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And then there's the way he draws semen, as [http://www.pronquest.com/20/good-to-the-last-drop/hentai here.] I heaved looking at this strip, by the way. As well as I did on many, many others.<br />
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Aw fuck it, let's move on to the<br />
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==Writing review== <br />
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As by now we're getting into as much plot as this nightmare is capable of mustering, and [http://www.pronquest.com/28/cunt-fucking-grasshoppers/hentai the girl is called to fuck an elderly farmer] who challenges her retarded pedophile owner for the role of most disgusting hideous white trash slime impersonation. Seriously, he is unbelievably sickening in the extreme, and it becomes clear that she has to be drugged constantly or else there is no fucking way that she could ever fuck any living creature that looks like [http://www.pronquest.com/29/hot-slut-needs-love/hentai this].<br />
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If I could I would stop here, because this comic by this point is turning my stomach into knots. Jesus Christ in Heaven save my soul, the writing in this comic is the last ingredient in what could very well be called the webcomic from Hell. [http://www.pronquest.com/33/the-pipes-are-clean/hentai "Now that we've got the rust out, it's time to start laying some pipe."] "Schlonk." "Hurry it up then, I gotta walk to town if your friend gets Joe his mojo back". [http://www.pronquest.com/36/hurry-up/hentai "Hurry up? No problem, but I'm not sure you'll be able to walk afterwards."] In case you were willing to give the writer the benefit of the doubt, we can safely tag him as a rapist in addition to being a pedophile, a bad writer, a bad artist, and utterly sickening beyond all reason.<br />
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Some more quotes: "Okay, show of hands: how many of you read 'Carnal Combat' and had the 'Mortal Kombat' theme start playing in your head? Now, how many of you had 'Everybody Love Kung Fu Fighting!' playing in your head?"<br />
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[http://www.pronquest.com/38/dam-sticky/hentai ":D"]<br />
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[http://www.pronquest.com/39/the-right-hole/hentai "With Libby, I doubt there's a wrong hole :D"]<br />
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[http://www.pronquest.com/42/grinding-xp/hentai "Now that gives a whole (hole?) new meaning to grinding XP..."]<br />
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[http://www.pronquest.com/48/blame-the-hamericans/hentai "I am reading it and loving it, this comic kicks major ass!"]<br />
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And yes, those are the fans. Like any truly sickening comic, this one has a small but utterly committed fanbase that consists of some of the creepiest creatures the human mind can comprehend. I can only see them as rapists and pedophiles. I cannot imagine them as any less. Even if they don't now, they will at some point or other wind up raping or molesting somebody. It's inevitable. This isn't just kinky or different, it's childlike girls getting fucked by seventy-five year old farmers. It's giants breaking womens' legs with their gigantic cocks. We're talking Marquis de Sade territory in this fairly-new comic. <br />
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Later on, the main character [http://www.pronquest.com/60/why-you-shouldnt-always-think-with-your-little-head/hentai turns into a frog.] The author says, "Originally Libby was supposed to capture a 'named' frog in the frog collection quest, but I thought it would be funnier later if it was a character turned into a frog." I have no idea how he finds this funny, but it does say "free fucking funny hentai cartoony porn daily webcomic" in the header, so who am I to argue? Fucking funny, or words thrown in like darts at a dartboard trying to hit the bullseye of a successful Google search to get some hits? I'm guessing the latter since this comic is, at heart, a sickening plea for money and hits. <br />
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It's so predictable it's boring. The only places where it gets interesting is when the comic becomes so sickening and fucked up that you can't look away, like a pornographic car crash. [http://www.pronquest.com/97/customer-service/hentai Rape scenes] [http://www.pronquest.com/168/you-call-that-help/hentai galore], for example, as well as [http://www.pronquest.com/134/snuggles/hentai genitals that can talk]. And of course [http://www.pronquest.com/122/slogging-the-frog/hentai naked fight scenes between men and the frog character] are always case studies in abject stupidity of the kind [http://www.pronquest.com/129/spiderfrog/hentai only a person] [http://www.pronquest.com/146/philosophical-beefcake/hentai with this kind] [http://www.pronquest.com/326/what-defines-a-monster/hentai of creative deficit] [http://www.pronquest.com/362/show-us-a-sign/hentai would concoct].<br />
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And, in case you might think it improves... no. [http://www.pronquest.com/434/but-i-dont-want-to-be-a-dick-girl/hentai Every cliched sex fetish] is put in. The copious pederasty [http://www.pronquest.com/457/thank-you-jeebus/hentai gets worse.] The ugly cock snakes make way for [http://www.pronquest.com/502/the-pumpkins-are-up-to-something/hentai full blown tentacle-rape porn]. And of course the semen and splooge make way for [http://www.pronquest.com/567/it-is-only-a-test/hentai straight up fucking guro-style depravity.] And those characters are ripping the intestines out of a ''four-year-old child.'' For no fucking reason whatsoever. Oh, except for being funny. Because we all know how funny it is to imitate Eric Cheung's infamous guro page in CGI. Great job, Splooge.<br />
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==Author biography== <br />
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He is a dark priest of Satan. See below.<br />
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==Conclusion/Revelations of Pure Evil==<br />
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This comic is disturbing on a fundamental level that any normal human being should be able to understand. And yet webcomics fans love it. I'm talking straight-up adore the kind of nightmares that this comic uses and throws out for even more horrific nightmares. How much do webcomics people love this webcomic? Well, it's number 88 on the "Top Webcomics" list. It's number four on the WebcomicZ list. It's ranked five-out-of-five stars on the website topqualityhentai.com.<br />
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To be fair, WebcomicZ's critics did in fact give the comic an F. Their remarks: "Unimpressive and uninteresting... fails on all accounts... not even the slightest bit erotic... creepy and lumpy in all the wrong places... if you like mindless low-quality porn, you might enjoy this." No. No. FUCKING GODDAMN SON OF A BITCH NOOOOOO. This comic is pederasty, this comic is rape, this comic is guro, this comic is a symbol of the decline of Western civilization. This comic, in terms of pure horror, puts most of the comics, pornographic or otherwise, on this site to ''shame''. It is proof that we are as a planet so far up Satan's puckered asshole that we actually try to find ''an audience'' for this piece of shit beyond the mortally fucked.<br />
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Oh what am I saying, we live in a society that made ''Transformers II: Revenge of the Fallen'' the top box-office hit for 2009. So eat it up, you sickening perverts. <br />
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Here is the society the mindless masses have made, thrown on a fucking platter for critics to try to sample, with tearing, glistening eyes crying to the masses "please no more, I cannot take any more of this sickening garbage." And the masses eat it, and they beg for more, as the critic's beating heart is ripped from his chest and sacrificed to the Bad Webcomics Satan below, and the demons cry out for more blood, more mindless fucking and perversion, and the high bad webcomics priest Ebeneezer Splooge raises his hands to the sky in this black mass of his creation, and he calls, "So the Evil One says it can be done." <br />
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And it is done, for years and years more, as the great comic artists of the past, Schultz and Herriman and Watterson, are called up to his altar, and their hands are branded with the label of the comic and its evil and perversion, and their hands are called up. And the fans, the demons below cry, "more, more"; and so their intestines are ripped from their stomachs. And the demons are not satiated. <br />
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And thus are the great cartoonists, Disney and Avery and Hannah and Barbera and Bluth, put upon his table; and their hands are too branded and cut off, and their intestines ripped out, and their eyes gouged free of their skulls; and the demons are not satiated. <br />
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And so finally the great webcomic artists of our age, Siddell and even Krahulik and Holkins, Tracy Butler, and many others so talented, are lined up; and they tell Siddell, "Draw Annie and Kat making out." And thus by their power it is done. And he is branded, and his hands cut off, and he is thrown into the fire. And they tell Krahulik and Holkins, "Draw Tycho and Gabe 69ing while Tycho's niece licks at her uncle's asshole." And by their horrible power it is done. And they are branded, and their hands cut off, and they are thrown into the fire. And they tell Butler, "Do a three-way with Mitzi, Rocky and Freckle, while Mitzi fingers Viktor's eye socket." And by their power, as she cries out to God above for heavenly mercy, it is done, and she is thrown in the pit with the rest of them.<br />
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And as they writhe, this black priest calls down after them, and he says: You who see yourself so highly, you could not beat me on the WebcomicsZ list, could you? You are so lacking in what really matters: Hits and fanbase." And Holkins and Butler and Disney and Bluth and Watterson and Herriman and all the rest are all burned to ashes.<br />
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If you support this comic, I think it is safe to say you are in league with Satan.<br />
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==Links==<br />
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This is not a comic you want links to.<br />
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|'''Original review author:'''<br />
| Review begun by [http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/william-seagate William Seagate] and completed by [[User:Long Tom|Long Tom]]<br />
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|'''Webcomic name:'''<br />
| [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/ Furthia High] ([http://furthiahigh.comicgenesis.com/ Version 1])<br />
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|'''Author:'''<br />
| [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/QuetzaDrake QuetzaDrake]<br />
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|'''Start Date:'''<br />
| May 16th, 2005 (Version 1), January 28th, 2008 (Version 2)<br />
|-<br />
|'''End Date:'''<br />
| November 16th, 2007 (Version 1), Version 2 is ongoing<br />
|-<br />
|'''Genre:'''<br />
| Furry Slice-of-Life Light Comedy turned to Relationship Drama and Mystery Mindfuck Adventure. Yeah.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
| This comic has mutated beyond identification. It wasn't great to begin with, but its new version has actually managed to be more scatter-shot and make even less sense than the first one. Genres and plots change abruptly, characters are insufferable and the art has serious flaws. Excessive pandering and silliness. Overall boring and confusing.<br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Art'''<br />
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Kiddie-level art in the original incarnation; much improved in the later version.<br />
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|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]][[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
Jumps erratically from one arc to another to another, leaving a number of loose ends.<br />
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|'''Characters:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
Mostly stereotypical and none really developed or likable, not even Kale the human protagonist.<br />
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|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
The author tries to mix high school hi-jinks with supposedly deeper meanings, and ends up with an erratic mishmash. The hi-jinks might have made a decent comic on their own.<br />
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|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]][[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
Random, scatter-shot, and confusing, but it does have some (intentionally) funny moments so I'm awarding this comic an extra star for that.<br />
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===Background===<br />
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After sticking our hands into the rampaging mindscrew mess that is [[Concession]] and going through the endless ordeal of reviewing it, we hoped that at least there wouldn't be another webcomic as crazy and ridiculously plotted as that in the near future. We certainly don’t know the Internet very well, because right there, in Immelmann’s '''very domain name''', lies a webcomic just as weird and convoluted as [[Concession]]. '''What are the fucking odds?!'''<br />
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''Furthia High'', by QuetzaDrake, is quite a peculiar case. Not only is the comic strange and stupid in many aspects, but we must also consider that this isn't the author’s [http://furthiahigh.comicgenesis.com/ first go] at it. The [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/ current version] hosted on Immy’s server is actually a reboot, committed at the end of 2007 to make the full transition from a semi-daily high school furry comic strip to the current, weekly long-page high school furry manga dramedy. It’s really hard to tell which of them is the worst, but I guess its enough to say that the new version isn't any better than the old one and actually sports a bunch of new mistakes. Also, its more like [[Concession]] now. That alone saddens me.<br />
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===Downfall===<br />
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The author tries to mix several genres in one comic and ends up with a mishmash.<br />
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===Story and Plot===<br />
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Kale Williams is the only human in a world of furries. Why? Because---'''shut up!''' The situation was explained to some [http://furthiahigh.comicgenesis.com/d/20050626.html hilarious detail] in the first version, but now the author has decided to leave it complete mystery. What an improvement.<br />
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Anyway, Kale is terrified and intimidated by the new ambient before finding comfort among a trio of friends, who immediately save him and welcome him into their group through a series of... ''[http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20080218 this]''. Then it is all happy times and random school hi-jinks. One day Kale meets Lupin, the [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20080421 hideously stereotypical bully]. He's dragged into a fight with him ([http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20080526 by his "friend" Ashley, no less]), tries to act noble and gets his ass handed to him in a way [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20080623 so plain] it makes you think he deserves it. He even becomes the [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20080728 Nerd Hero] for it. '''They want tips from him!''' For what, getting their asses kicked? That's easy: make friends with Ashley.<br />
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We get our first pinch of drama at [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20080922 Bruce's birthday], where Kale falls down the stairs, causing strange [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20080929 mysterious dreams] to emerge. ''Oooohhh, the wonder...'' Shit breaks down, everybody screams, and...they all forget about it. Its time for the Autumn Ball! Suddenly everybody thinks about who to take to the dance, except Bruce who is [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20081201 all wacky] and instead wants to [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090105 pull a damn Buckley] on the whole school for not loving him. Also, Ashley's bitchiness reaches new heights as she [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20081110 badmouths] and [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20081117 abuses] everyone, especially [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20081222 the only loon] to want to go to the ball with her and [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090112 defend her honor] against the [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090116 dumb, emotionless bully]. And what's his prize for that? [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090130 Getting dumped with a smile]. What a bitch.<br />
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Next comes [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090206 two gay highschoolers openly dating each other]! This story may take place in the near-distant future, but whatever social changes may take place, this scenario is not very likely to happen, as high school kids are not typically liberal-minded. (I know one member of a gay married couple who has said he never openly admitted his homosexuality until college.) Also, truth be told, even liberal-minded families are not necessarily accepting of their own offspring being homosexual. (I am uncertain whether [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090220 this] is meant to be wish fulfillment or sarcasm.) And we interrupt the main story [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090302 to bring you]...<br />
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...[http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090306 a long, convoluted dream sequence]. One little problem, though. The arc starts with Kale and Eve on a parkbench, but all of a sudden the dream was supposed to have started [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090327 at this point]. (On top of that, it uses the heavily overused trope of such dream sequences starting with a car accident. Sigh.) Presumably the author doesn't try to go back and make corrections. Then we learn [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090413 this] about Kale. I could have sworn that the original idea of this story was that Kale was the last remaining human? And then Kale [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090508 awakes from his coma]...or [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090518 not]. And after all the drama about "truth", we come to [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090529 this point]. But ultimately [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090605 a consensus is reached], and Kale finally [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090615 awakens for real] this time. However, others have [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090619 gotten suspicious about what had been going on in Kale's head] during his coma.<br />
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But with Kale [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090622 temporarily indisposed], we're back to the [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090626 high school hi-jinks]. Gus hasn't ceased [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090629 his pursuit of Ashley]. And winter break arrives, and [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090717 Campy is spending his time with his new boyfriend Connor], leaving poor Bruce [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090731 all alone]. On top of that, [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090803 Bruce cannot even play his new game] to distract himself. Ashley and Eve have [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090810 their own sleepover]. Then Ashley confesses [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090814 her low opinion of Gus]. Eve tries to defend him, but Ashley [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090817 won't hear of it]. (BTW, a former girlfriend of mine did reveal that during real-life sleepovers, girls do talk about boys behind their backs. The author at least got that right.) As for Campy and Connor, there are [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090824 nonsexual recreations] that they do together. But Campy does start [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090907 feeling guilty] about neglecting Bruce. And we get a little reminder that this is [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090918 a futuristic world]. But even in a future world, [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20090925 more traditional recreations] haven't fallen by the wayside.<br />
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Kale is now back in the story, only to go through a [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20091002 new dream sequence], more ridiculous than last time. Kale has gotten a message, and when he figures it out, we get...[http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20091026 another anticlimax]. But never mind, it's time for more [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20091106 high school hi-jinks]. (At least we see [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20091113 Lupin get his].) Also, I wonder if the author has ever [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20091127 read "Boston and Shaun"?] No, it would be a crime to compare this webcomic to ''that!'' And now, Eve decides to [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20091130 get involved] in Gus's pursuit of Ashley. (But then we hear no more about that part.) And Kale is not in some lame dream sequence [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20091214 this time]. Whoops, [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20100101 I spoke too soon]. And now we hear that what Kale was told in his previous dream sequences [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20100122 was disinformation]? Did the author actually have any real long-term story line, or has he been just making things up as he goes along? (Very likely it's the latter.) And now the author [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20100208 makes things more confusing than ever]. Or maybe it's just the simplest explanation: [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20100215 Kale is just crazy.] (Well, imagine what it must be like to be a [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20100219 human in a furry world].) And Kale's friends' response to his predicament? [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20100308 You'd think they'd show a little more sympathy.] But what does it matter, let's just go back again to the [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20100312 high school hi-jinks].<br />
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And finally, things get a little surprising. Would you believe that Bruce is so passionate about food that he will even [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20100326 stand up to the fearsome Lupin] over it? And we finally find out about [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20100402 Lupin's background]? And even better, [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20100412 Bruce is developing a backbone], to the point where he earns some respect from Lupin? Bruce even is able to [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20100419 distract Gus away from thoughts of Ashley]! And [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20100430 one cooking competition later], Lupin finally confesses to Bruce that Kale had [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20100507 made him feel afraid] during the fight scene earlier in the story. Ha!<br />
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Now comes [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20100524 a major class assignment] which forms the core of the next story arc. Kale has made it back to class now, and [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20100614 has a laugh at the expense of his supposed friends]. But Kale ends up sharing the laughs with [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20100705 everyone else at the school], and...OMG! The comic actually [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20100709 mocks "Concession"]!<br />
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So now Campy and Kale are working together on their new assignment. But before any schoolwork is started, there are [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20100719 relationship issues] to be discussed. And the discussion takes a [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20100726 very unexpected turn]! But no, the whole thing turns out to be [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20100730 a dream]. (At least characters other than Kale have dreams as well.) Except that this time, the dream threatens to [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20100806 repeat itself in reality]. And can Connor get Bruce to [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20100827 actually work on the school assignment] with him? But no, they end up [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20100906 fighting over Campy], who finally [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20100920 intervenes]. And now Campy [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20100924 confesses his irritation with the two of them]. Though [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20100927 Campy's punishment] is rather much. Why not a handshake instead? Probably the author needed a pretext to show yet another picture of two males mouth-kissing each other, as he has figured out that his readership wants as much male yaoi kissing as he can possibly squeeze in. (I would have figured out the same after viewing the [http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/fanart.php fan art pictures].)<br />
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The comic continues, but I've made my point by now. The comic is erratic, abruptly jumping between story arcs, and the question of Kale and why he is human is supposedly dealt with, but three dream sequences have failed to give us any idea whatsoever. The humor and characters are sitcom-level, and if the author had simply stuck with the sitcom humor, he might have made a more entertaining webcomic.<br />
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===Art review===<br />
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<center>Version one art style</center><br />
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[http://furthiahigh.comicgenesis.com/d/20050626.html The original incarnation art style] was pretty crude line drawing with erratic proportions and no shading. At least it was in color-undoubtedly a necessity just to get people to look at it.<br />
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<center>Version two art style</center><br />
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[http://furthiahigh.concessioncomic.com/index.php?pid=20080128 The later incarnation art style] is more refined, with better proportions, detailing, coloring, and shading. Also the furry characters now wear shoes.<br />
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===Writing review===<br />
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What can one say about a narrative that jumps abruptly back and forth from high school hi-jinks to what goes on in Kale's head and back? Kale's being a human in a scenario where all other humans have become furries generations ago is the story's big mystery, yet the dream sequences which are supposed to clue us in about Kale and his origins don't tell us a damn thing. And it seems very unlikely that the world's only human would be allowed to mingle in society-and not be feared and shunned as a leper. And ignoring Kale, the story is a glorified sitcom with lots of yaoi male mouth kissing and society being far more accepting of homosexuality than any society, no matter how progressive, would actually be. Yet the comic carries the message at the top that '''"Furthia High won the Ursa Major Award for Best Graphic Story of 2011!"''' No lie (see below). Well, at least there are some genuine laughs in this webcomic, so that's something.<br />
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===Author biography=== <br />
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I found nothing besides the links already provided.<br />
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===Conclusion===<br />
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Originally the comic was simply a furry comic with a human thrown in as a gimmick. Every human except for Kale has already been converted to some furry form, yet somehow Kale is simply wandering among the rest of society. (Like the world's last human wouldn't far more likely be quarantined in some laboratory?) Then in the revised version, Kale was evidently a furry/human hybrid like everyone else, but he had somehow lost his furriness. (Even then, would he really allowed to be wandering around in regular society?) I was anticipating that this comic was meant to be some sort of satire, but it isn't. It jumps back and forth from light high school comedy to romance to "deep meaning" and whatnot. The author could have done better if he had stuck to light comedy; at least he has some talent with that.<br />
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[[File:20100315.jpg|center]]<br />
<center>You never mess with Bruce when it comes to the matter of food!</center><br />
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===Links===<br />
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* [http://www.ursamajorawards.org/index.htm Furthia High has won the Ursa Major Award for Best Graphic Story of 2011.] This is not a hoax. Of course ''Furthia High'' is arguably better than many other furry webcomics out there.<br />
* [http://quetzadrake.deviantart.com/ QuetzaDrake's DeviantArt page] <br />
* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/quetzadrake/ QuetzaDrake's Fur Affinity page]<br />
* [http://quetzadrake.livejournal.com/ QuetzaDrake's LiveJournal] (For those interested, I did ask him recently how his relationship with Immelmann has been since the last LiveJournal entry, and he replied saying that things are much better between them than they were 2-3 years ago. Sorry, the old romance isn't likely to resume.)<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ebn4S0J0_8&feature=g-all-u Webcomic Relief on YouTube] also has a review of ''Furthia High''<br />
[[Category:Webcomics]]</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oddguy&diff=13512User talk:Oddguy2015-02-01T07:14:43Z<p>DentsAndDings: /* Sonichu */ r</p>
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<div>== Auto-fix images ==<br />
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Hey,<br />
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I'm working on a script that automatically converts the old markdown syntax to the new one, but I'm sort of stuck with how to deal with images. Is there any way we can have the entire image archive moved over at once, while keeping the same names? That way fixing the image tags would just involve changing the syntax, while keeping the same link address.<br />
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* Wow, a scrip? That's amazing man. I wish I knew how to do that kind of cool stuff... Anyway, i'll look into it but I will tell you right now that I seriously doubt it. I'lll get back to you once I know. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 14:56, 4 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:*A shame about the images.You can basically see an example of what the script's good for here: http://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Gyno-Star. If you know how to run Python scripts I can give you the source code, or I can try and turn it into an executable and get back to you in a few days. --[[User:AMysteriousStranger|AMysteriousStranger]] ([[User talk:AMysteriousStranger|talk]]) 02:30, 7 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::* Well, it isn't perfect, but it should still cut down our work. Sadly I don't know how to run python scripts. Let me know if you can turn it into an executable. Thank you for the help.[[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 03:10, 7 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== question ==<br />
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I have a webcomic in mind, but do I need to go to the forum and talk about it or should I just create the article?--[[File:Mr toast.jpg|link=Toast]][[User:Milwin|<span style="color:yellow;font-weight:bold">'''milwin'''</span>]][[File:my toaster.jpg|link=User talk:milwin|Wanna get toasty :3]] 11:53, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
*wait there is no forum--[[File:Mr toast.jpg|link=Toast]][[User:Milwin|<span style="color:yellow;font-weight:bold">'''milwin'''</span>]][[File:my toaster.jpg|link=User talk:milwin|Wanna get toasty :3]] 11:54, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:* Well, generally speaking- Yes. You need to make a thread on the forum and people need to voice their opinion on it. But you should tell me the comic, if I know it and it's bad i'll give you a green light right now. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 11:55, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
::*well it's not a webcomic you probably know, but it's a dbz fanfic called Dragon ball multiverse, not the concept is cool and the art is great. But there is one problem with all of that, the author salagar is know for his mary sue characters that he prefers over other characters in the db universe. He even admits many times that he changed many DB logic to his own because he didn't like it.And worst of all is that he didn't change, he hasn't improve since all those years in his story writing, and we can see clear biased favoritism over characters, also according to salager's logic future gohan is stronger than dabura yet weaker than 18&17 ^_^.--[[File:Mr toast.jpg|link=Toast]][[User:Milwin|<span style="color:yellow;font-weight:bold">'''milwin'''</span>]][[File:my toaster.jpg|link=User talk:milwin|Wanna get toasty :3]] 12:08, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::* Honestly man? This sounds like a bad reason to write a review, but it's not up to me to decide. The problem is- You have to make a new thread to ask people if you can review it, to do that you need an account on the old BWW, but you can't make an account because wikidot made us be privet and and we hit the 1000 user limit for free wikis.<br />
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::: It will be a while until I figure out how to make a new forum. So this will have to wait.[[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 12:16, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::::* ok I'm gonna gather my thoughts and write why I dislike this webcomic, send me a message on edf when the forums are up.--[[File:Mr toast.jpg|link=Toast]][[User:Milwin|<span style="color:yellow;font-weight:bold">'''milwin'''</span>]][[File:my toaster.jpg|link=User talk:milwin|Wanna get toasty :3]] 12:38, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::* You know what? Write down what you want to say and i'll make the thread for you. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 12:41, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::::::* thx, DBM is just as confusing, overpowered and out of character moments as Dbgt, in same ways worse. Its fanmade but still.. I also give up on arguing with people on Kanzenshuu forum. They arent really having any good point. Its just repeating themselves over and over again"Vegeta has to be good or else he wont get the Mystic power up." "We know much about Hanasia as we do about Bardock. Shes not a Mary Sue. She was killed by Rachi so she isnt perfect!". Im done with it to be honest lol.<br />
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::::::* Funny how Salgar likes to bash GT and what not, DBM has even more plotholes than GT (Broly fighting evenly with Vegito, Gohan being able to give away his mystic power, etc...)<br />
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::::::*But Salagir REALLY dropped the ball there, Dabura is stronger than 17, 18, 19, and 20 combined. Yet somehow Future Gohan is able to match Dabura in a fight and even kill him in the end...WTF?!<br />
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::::::*The thing I hate, that they give HUGE plot armor to certain characters. I mean how did U13 Kakarot get so strong without training? How did U13 Vegeta turn into a Super Saiyan at Namek? How come Dabura didn't kill Gohan in the Mirai universe? etc...<br />
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::::::*There are many characters that are out of characters like when gohan was givving his mystic power to the saiyans, gohan would never try to make a deal with the bad guys he could've just told them to fuck off since they can't touch him or hurt him since they would be disqualified from the tournament.SO WHY WOULD HE HELP THEM.<br />
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::::::*"Salagar said that he considers DBM more canon then DBGT"<br />
So he basically believes that the fan comic that hes writing is more canon than what the studio that funded the original Dragonball and DBZ made. Wow.<br />
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::::::*He makes specials now and then which explains the back story of certain characters, but he REALLY makes crappy and boring ones as well like the bojack one.<br />
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::::::*In the latest chapter he made vegito lose becuase of a dirty trick, but he made him look like a crybaby,whats funny is that Vegito beat Wanked Powered Broly the exact same way. Out of the ring for 30 seconds on both ends. Vegito knows he lost fair and square otherwise he wouldnt use that tactic on Broly. Now the rules are stupid because someone did the same thing to him.It's childish and inexcusable for someone in his position. He knows he's the most powerful being there, he should be responsible with that power instead of throwing a big tantrum and attacking people who had nothing to do with it. Anger is not an excuse that kind of behavior. He's had plenty years to learn how control himself, the Vegeta and Goku side of him are gone, he is his own person now. He tells Bra to control her anger (Which she didnt) yet he cant control himself. What a hypocrite.--[[File:Mr toast.jpg|link=Toast]][[User:Milwin|<span style="color:yellow;font-weight:bold">'''milwin'''</span>]][[File:my toaster.jpg|link=User talk:milwin|Wanna get toasty :3]] 12:59, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::* Okay, I made a thread on the forum... Although I don't think anyone will understand what you are talking about... it sounds like you want to write a review because you are mad at this comic for fucking up the show's internat cannon about who is stronger or weaker... It's like writing a review about someone who disagrees with you about who would win in a fight between batman and superman. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 13:14, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::::::* I'm disappointed because I used to be a fan of this webcomic which is I'm mad at it, now the story writing has gone shit which is why I got a bit frustrated, you can say it had a huge downfall(especially the latest chapters).--[[File:Mr toast.jpg|link=Toast]][[User:Milwin|<span style="color:yellow;font-weight:bold">'''milwin'''</span>]][[File:my toaster.jpg|link=User talk:milwin|Wanna get toasty :3]] 13:20, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::* You have to explain what is wrong with the comic better... Besides it getting DBZ's internal mythology wrong.[[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 13:21, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::*That's because it's salager's version of dbz, and like I said there are many plot armor in the story,and I think I mentioned the mary sue.--[[File:Mr toast.jpg|link=Toast]][[User:Milwin|<span style="color:yellow;font-weight:bold">'''milwin'''</span>]][[File:my toaster.jpg|link=User talk:milwin|Wanna get toasty :3]] 13:24, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::*Anyway see if it's fit for a review or anything, I'm going back to developing the rpg game we're working on.--[[File:Mr toast.jpg|link=Toast]][[User:Milwin|<span style="color:yellow;font-weight:bold">'''milwin'''</span>]][[File:my toaster.jpg|link=User talk:milwin|Wanna get toasty :3]] 13:32, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::* Gook luck with that. I'll let you know what the guys say.[[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 13:35, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==hi theres admins]==<br />
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helo my name is spilunk sna i am here to help with an aritcle idea i had bout a webcomic i know caled calbin and jobbs which was popular in news. its about a galbin and a jobbs and their adventuress trhogu time. pleas ehalfp [[User:Spilunk|Spilunk]] ([[User talk:Spilunk|talk]]) 13:23, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Collective Reviews ==<br />
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I've started working on a template for webcomic collective reviews. I have a rough outline right now. Would you like me to send it in a private message to your profile on the old wiki, or just post it here?--[[User:Izzus|Izzus]] ([[User talk:Izzus|talk]]) 14:47, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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* Post it here. There is no reason to keep it a secret. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 14:48, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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* Gotcha.--[[User:Izzus|Izzus]] ([[User talk:Izzus|talk]]) 14:55, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Collective Name:'''<br />
|[collective's URL space name of collective]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Ran By:'''<br />
|Name of owner(s) <br />
|-<br />
|'''First Opened On:'''<br />
|Insert the date this collective first appeared on the internet (sources include the website's information page, copyright at the bottom of the page, the website's wiki, http://www.freewebsitereport.org/, google, etc.)<br />
|-<br />
|'''Target Audience:'''<br />
|What demographics does the collective cater to? Examples include mall goths, anime fans, furries, tech geeks, etc. If the comics cater to too many audiences, just say "Multi-Demographic".<br />
|-<br />
|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
|What makes this collective stand out as something horrible?<br />
|}<br />
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'''Rating Summary'''<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable" style="width:600px"><br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Quality Control:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]] This is the measure of how much quality control they use when accepting a new comic to their site.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Site Layout:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]] How easy is it to navigate the site? Do they use blindingly high-contrast color schemes which burn out your eyes? Are the links tiny as hell and difficult to identify?<br />
|-<br />
|'''Community:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]] Is the community full of irrational 12 year olds? Perverts? Are they actually decent?<br />
|-<br />
|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]] Summary of other things you feel like including.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]] How do you feel after writing this review?<br />
|}<br />
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===Introduction===<br />
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Tell us a little about how you found out about this collective. You may optionally include a short summary (no more than two paragraphs) of the site's history.<br />
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===Failure===<br />
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This section is where you tell us about why the collective is so bad.<br />
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===The Comics===<br />
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Talk about the comics they have on the site.<br />
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===Community===<br />
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Does the site have a community forum, IRC, or chat box? If so, please feel free to shit talk them into oblivion. Give a layout of the community, and in the case of forums, what goes on in each section. Feel free to mention notably obnoxious users, mods, and admins, as well as any drama which has spawned due to said people.<br />
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===Conclusion===<br />
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Give your final thoughts on the site.<br />
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===Links===<br />
* Links go here.<br />
* Try to have more than one.<br />
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* Oh! I see! I misunderstood what you meant... Yes! This is a wonderfull idea. I also like it because in a few days I was about to make series templates for KatBox, SNAFU, Fresh Epics, CMX910 and probably the crap that Shomer of L.I.C.D sponsors. This way the templates can also have a main article that is linked to them... I like this idea! Good work! Show me when you think it is done. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 15:02, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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* Very cool, I shall. --[[User:Izzus|Izzus]] ([[User talk:Izzus|talk]]) 15:26, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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* I'm confident that this is polished enough. --[[User:Izzus|Izzus]] ([[User talk:Izzus|talk]]) 16:55, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Collective Name:'''<br />
|[collective's URL space name of collective]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Ran By:'''<br />
|Name of owner(s) <br />
|-<br />
|'''First Opened On:'''<br />
|Insert the date this collective first appeared on the internet (sources include the website's information page, copyright at the bottom of the page, the website's wiki, http://www.freewebsitereport.org/, google, etc.)<br />
|-<br />
|'''Target Audience:'''<br />
|What demographics does the collective cater to? Examples include mall goths, , anime fans, furries, tech geeks, etc. If the comics cater to too many audiences, just say "Multi-Demographic".<br />
|-<br />
|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
|What makes this collective stand out as something horrible?<br />
|}<br />
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'''Rating Summary'''<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable" style="width:600px"><br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Quality Control:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br>This is the measure of how much quality control they use when accepting a new comic to their site and maintaining the new updates to their current comics.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Site Layout:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br>How easy is it to navigate the site? Do they use blindingly high-contrast color schemes which burn out your eyes? Are the links tiny as hell and difficult to identify?<br />
|-<br />
|'''Community:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br>Is the community full of irrational manchildren? Perverts? Are they actually decent? Is there a community at all?<br />
|-<br />
|'''Store:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br>If the site has a store, rate it. If not, say there isn't one and move on.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br>Summary of other things you feel like including.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br>How do you feel after writing this review?<br />
|}<br />
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===Introduction===<br />
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Tell us a little about how you found out about this collective, what your first impressions were, and why you decided that it was bad.<br />
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===The Comics===<br />
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Talk about the comics they have on the site. No need to give a full review for each one, just give us a general summary. If there are too many comics to go over, tell us about the popular ones instead.<br />
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===Community===<br />
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Does the site have a community forum, IRC, or chat box? If so, you are encouraged to shit talk them into oblivion. Give a layout of the community, and in the case of forums, what goes on in each section. Feel free to mention notably obnoxious users, mods, and admins, as well as any drama which has spawned due to said people. If there is no on-site community, remove this section and continue the review.<br />
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===Social Media===<br />
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Does the site have a facebook account? Twitter? Tell us about it.<br />
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===Various Failures===<br />
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This is the part where you get to tell us about the bad things which don't pertain to the community, comics, or social media.<br />
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===Conclusion===<br />
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Give your final thoughts on the site.<br />
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===Links===<br />
* Links go here.<br />
* Try to have more than one.<br />
* Three+ is ideal.<br />
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=== Okay===<br />
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::*1) Looks good... "Social Media" will probably be useless... I don't remember any webcomic group that has a facebook or anything like that. Annd if they do I doubt there is anything to say about them.<br />
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::*2) "Various Failures" will probably also be useless... We can keep it, but I can''t think of any way a webcomic collective can fail that is not the failure of one of the webcomic artist or fans. The only way a webcomic groups fails ''as a group'' is by virtue of joining together a bunch f really bad webcomics.<br />
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::*3) Now the question is: "What to do with this?"... Should we make a new page for this template? We are only going to get a limited amout of use out of it because there are only so many of these groups we can review. The only ones I can think of are: SNAFU, Fresh Epics, KatBox, Rayen Shomer Productions, CMX910 and maaaaaybe Comic Genessis. That's six pages this can be used for, tops.<br><br />
::There are also "LoveShack" and "Tomboy", but they aren't bad in any way... Point is: Template done, what now?[[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 17:31, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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*Understandable. I initially designed the template thinking about how I would review Drunkduck or SNAFU, and included the topics I would touch upon with those reviews. I think that since the template's topic is so niche it would be a good idea to hand it out to people who want to write the review rather than make a whole new page for it. At least, that's my two cents. --[[User:Izzus|Izzus]] ([[User talk:Izzus|talk]]) 17:24, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::* I still wanna make a page. First- so it will be saved somewhere other than my user-page. And second- so that if anyone wants to write a review about a group he will know that this is an option+ have a ready-made template.[[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 17:31, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::* That seems reasonable. I look forward to the finalized page. --[[User:Izzus|Izzus]] ([[User talk:Izzus|talk]]) 18:38, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::::* The finalized page is just a copy/paste of what you just posted here. Or do you mean the first review made with it? [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 18:55, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::* In fact, here it is- [[Webcomic Group Review Template]].<br />
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:::::::* Both, sort of. I thought you were going to remove the social media section and touch it up, but a copy paste job is good too. As for the first review under that template, I do look forward to it. --[[User:Izzus|Izzus]] ([[User talk:Izzus|talk]]) 19:43, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::* The first one will probably be your DrunkDuck/SNAFU thing... people will need an example of what to do before any of them tries it himself OI suspect. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 19:50, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Hey there. ==<br />
Hey there, I am a new member here and I just want to ask one question. Are we allowed to fix the grammatical errors of the reviews here? [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 06:41, 17 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:* Not only can but encouraged to do so... we often have overlooked mistakes on some reviews and anyone who is willing to help fix them will have my gratitude. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 12:10, 17 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:* Okay, thanks. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 06:36, 18 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Webcomic Groups page ==<br />
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Hey, long-time lurker from the old website. Quick question, are you the same Oddguy that I sometimes see pop up over at Shittywebcomics?<br />
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Anyways, I notice on the new site a bunch of comics have a template for major webcomic hosts like keenspot or pixie trix. I like the idea, but I think we can also make a page so that it's easy to navigate comics by host, and perhaps add some extra information like a brief history of the host and perhaps some other comics/affiliates that don't have a review on this site. What do you think? [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 19:57, 18 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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EDIT: Derp. I look up and it seems someone already has the same idea, they just used the word collective and I didn't catch it at first. [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 19:59, 18 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::* To answer your question - I don't know. They quoted me a number of times on things I never said. At first they quoted something someone else said on another website I use and I assumed it was a mistake. But when I corrected them they made fun of me and said that I am not the only oddguy. I am not sure if that was just a joke or they really thought I am some other oddguy, but now it has become a running gag where they attribute random quotes to "oddguy" which if really funny to me. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 21:05, 18 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::*OK then. Well, my last idea might be already taken, but I noticed on your list that you wanted to get Tails Gets Trolled reviewed. I'm actually reading it right now and have some prior wiki experience. Would it be ok if I started drafting a review on my page? [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 23:31, 18 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::::* Uh... actually, I have a sort of secret thing going on regarding that comic that I don't want to get into details about because it will ruin the surprise. It might still be a while, but that's why I am not writing a review yet and don't want anyone else to. Sorry. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 07:00, 19 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Forums ==<br />
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I'm getting "Sorry, you can not add new post in this thread. Only members of this site, site administrators and perhaps selected moderators are allowed to do it." no matter which forum I post in. Even ones like the "Challenges to Existing Reviews". Why is this? [[User:DentsAndDings|DentsAndDings]] ([[User talk:DentsAndDings|talk]]) 09:18, 26 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::* I should really get on that............ The thing is we moved to this site from another site because we were violating ToS over there. So they made out site privet and everyone who wanted to read it had to join. But free sites on wikidot have a 1000 user limit. So when we hit it no one could join our site and we moved here instead. But I haven't made a new forum for us yet and anyone who hasn't already joined the old site can't join now or pot on the forum............. I have been slacking on this for too long. I promise that I will make a new forum for us some time soon. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 10:03, 26 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Lesbot ==<br />
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Hey Oddguy, is there anyway to get in contact with Lesbot? I need to ask (presumably) her if she has a certain comic archived. Thanks a lot man.<br />
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[[User:Laurie Mondone|Laurie Mondone]] ([[User talk:Laurie Mondone|talk]]) 22:21, 3 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:* I can try to look her up but I don't think "Lesbot" is a very original username so I doubt I will be able to. What comic is it? [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 06:47, 4 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Oh, it's Shredded Moose. I just wanted to see if Lesbot still had the comics that she used for the images she posted in the Shredded Moose review. I'd be grateful if someone has anything from that comic saved since it's so rare, nowadays. <br />
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On a side note, I do have an interesting reaction from Shredded Moose's author. After he flipped out and destroyed his whole website, Brew moved on to illustrating several children's books, ironically after he wrote a comic about aborting them and shooting them. Just goes to show that negative reviews can do something positive for the world.<br />
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[[User:Laurie Mondone|Laurie Mondone]] ([[User talk:Laurie Mondone|talk]]) 15:58, 4 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::* I see... I will try to contact her but I think she just linked to the site. I doubt she saved any of it. You might find some of it still saved on [http://web.archive.org/web/20130701000000*/http://www.shreddedmoose.com/ web archive] if you look real hard... About the reaction... do you have something he posted? And was the reaction to OUR review or just in general? [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 16:36, 4 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks! I already tried the web archive to no avail sadly.<br />
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And nah, I think it was more a reaction in general to the whole internet calling him out. I only know this because I stumbled onto his site: http://www.brianartwork.com/ I just think it's funny that after three years of being the edgemiester, he moved on to children's books.<br />
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[[User:Laurie Mondone|Laurie Mondone]] ([[User talk:Laurie Mondone|talk]]) 17:01, 4 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::::* Hahaha... that is pretty funny. I'll let you know if I find anything out abourt where to find some of the comic. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 17:52, 4 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Confused ==<br />
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Hi, I'm new here. It's been said that if I want to suggest a webcomic to be reviewed, I have to put it on the forum, but the forum link keeps taking me to the old site. Can you help?<br />
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::* Yeah, sorry about that. We moved sites because our old site got shut down and it won't allow new members to join now. I need to make a new forum to solve this problem and I intend to do that in the next few days. I actually already found a good free forum site and made one but i'm still playing around with it before I make it public. So wait a few more days and you can post your topic on our new forum... sorry for the inconvenience. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 18:54, 6 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Sinfest update ==<br />
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I don't know if you remember, but a while back I posted a suggestion for updating the sinfest article on the forums. You said you'd eventually add it, but it's been a while since then. Do you mind if I work it in myself? Most likely I'll use most of what I already wrote and put it in the writing section. [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 17:54, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:*Alright, do your thing. But I wanna talk about this a bit before you do because I have to be honest... some of the points you make? Really reaching. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 22:14, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Ok, but do you mind weighing in on which points you think need work? I think its best if you go back to the original forum post and point out which ones. I'm considering condensing anyways, so I could simply just pluck out the weaker points and just write just a paragraph or two on consistency. [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 03:02, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::* Okay, i'll get to it sometime soon. I'm at work right now. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 14:00, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Contact ==<br />
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Hi Oddguy, could you contact me directly ASAP (via email) at lcawte (at) shoutwiki.com. Thanks --[[User:Lcawte|&#91;&#91;User:Lcawte&#124;Lewis Cawte&#93;&#93; (&#91;&#91;User talk:Lcawte&#124;talk&#93;&#93;) &#60;staff /&#62;]] ([[User talk:Lcawte|talk]]) 16:47, 6 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Category Link ==<br />
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Hi Oddguy,<br />
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I created [[:category:Webcomics]] and linked all webcomic review pages to it, and am thinking of putting non-review articles such as [[BWW Tutorials and Lectures]] in another category. I did so because I was just hitting the random button and didn't see any lists of articles. I used the [http://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Special:AllPages all pages link] which I only know about because I'm an administrator on a couple of non-related wikis.<br />
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There's no link to this category, obviously, on the main page, but I thought new visitors to the site might want to see it. [[User:ArthurD2|ArthurD2]] ([[User talk:ArthurD2|talk]]) 17:27, 10 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:* Oh! Thank you so much! I can never bring myself to do this kind of stuff. '''<3''' [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 20:43, 10 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Fair Use Liscenses ==<br />
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Hey, I see you're adding fair use tags to images. I think that's a good idea, and while I'm not 100% certain about how it all is supposed to work, Normally I see them put on the file page itself rather than the talk page. [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 15:19, 8 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:* I'm not 100% on this either but Shoutwiki asked me to do this for images that complain about copyright... The wife of the guy that does RA has been trying to get all the Frech Epics reviews taken down. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 17:09, 8 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::* Well yes, obviously, they're a good idea. I just think it'd be more useful to have them on the file page instead of the talk, as that's the normal wiki practice. It's also easier to find that way. [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 23:58, 8 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== What the hell, dude?==<br />
Almost every other fucking review you write uses the words "tranny" or "retarded," sometimes multiple times. I have a hard time believing no one's called you on your shit before, so you've probably been deleting criticism and will delete this one too, but I'm going to write it anyway. Fuck you dude. I enjoyed this website until I stumbled across the reviews written by ''you'', the admin, and realized that you're actually a bigoted piece of shit. [[User:Johnnyo|Johnnyo]] ([[User talk:Johnnyo|talk]]) 01:51, 14 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:* Actually, no. No one has called me out on it since this isn't tumblr you quivering little pussy. I have, however, been called out on it on some other sites, but I don't give a shit. Therefore, to you I say: Fuck off you tranny retard.<br />
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::P.S- I also make fun of fat people. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 03:41, 14 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:::* Wait a minute... I actually just did a search for the words "Retard", "Tranny" and "Retarded" on the site and found that we have about 80 pages with the word retard/retarded, most of which were not made by me (obviously) and three pages with the word tranny, two of which are mine. If those words offend you then you should have fucked off a long time ago. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 03:59, 14 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== New Template ==<br />
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I created a draft for a new template on my [http://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/User:Plarblman/Sandbox sandbox page]. I think it'd be useful for us to distinguish between actual porn comics and cheesecake comics. Besides having different levels of sexual content in them, I think it also helps identify comics that are too pathetic to go full porn. Tell me what you think. [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 16:33, 25 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:* That's a good idea. It'll save us more arguments over what should and shouldn't be tagged NSFW. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 17:05, 25 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:* At least some cheesecake comics may still count as NSFW, but creating a distinction will let readers know how NSFW it is. I'm thinking of doing a code yellow: cheesecake and a code red: porn distinction to show the severity. I'll modify it further to show you what I mean. [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 18:05, 25 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::* Okay. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 20:41, 25 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:::* If you're satisfied with it, I can start adding it to reviews right away. The only question is whether or not I use it to replace the NSFW template or add it underneath. What do you think? [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 22:26, 25 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::::* Yeah, replace it. comics that are tagged NSFW and are just cheesecake, replace the template with the yellow template. Comics that are NSFW and are tagged NSFW replace the template with the red template. That's gonna be our new NSFW template and i'll retire the old one. Don't forget to make template pages... You know how to do that, right? [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 07:24, 26 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:::::* Yeah. I'll get on that right away. I'll just do the easy thing and edit the current NSFW template with the red one so that I don't have to go into every review and replace it manually. [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 14:05, 26 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Adding links in other pages ==<br />
Hey Mr. Oddguy, I was reading some miscellaneous pages such as the Mary-Sue page and saw some words that could be linked to other pages/other comic reviews (like talking about CAD, but there is no link to the review), am I allowed to do this? --[[User:Eldeon|Eldeon]] ([[User talk:Eldeon|talk]]) 21:41, 3 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:* Oh yeah, sure, that would be wonderful (please don't call me "mr.") [[File:Busey.png|link= User:Oddguy]] [[User:Oddguy|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:red;font-weight:bold;font-size: 16px">oddguy</span>]] [[File:Busey.png|link= User Talk:Oddguy]] 22:11, 3 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:**I apologize; I did not mean to offend.--[[User:Eldeon|Eldeon]] ([[User talk:Eldeon|talk]]) 20:25, 4 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::* Hahaha all good man i'm just joking around but there is no need for formality i'm just a site admin. [[File:Busey.png|link= User:Oddguy]] [[User:Oddguy|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:red;font-weight:bold;font-size: 16px">oddguy</span>]] [[File:Busey.png|link= User Talk:Oddguy]] 20:40, 4 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== spambots ==<br />
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You seem to be having some trouble with those spambots; I noticed they keep uploading the same pages over and over. I'm not familiar with shoutwiki but on wikia you're able to block certain pages from being created. Have you tried that? [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 20:23, 29 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::* I doubt that can be done but i'll check. [[File:Busey.png|link= User:Oddguy]] [[User:Oddguy|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:red;font-weight:bold;font-size: 16px">oddguy</span>]] [[File:Busey.png|link= User Talk:Oddguy]] 08:12, 30 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== The spam page ==<br />
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I actually meant deleting [[Why Shemale Cam Is No Friend To Small Business]] the spam page itself, not just the talk page. - [[User:LucidFox|LucidFox]] ([[User talk:LucidFox|talk]]) 08:32, 25 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Sonichu ==<br />
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A pagemove vandal moved the page to [[Nigger nigger nigger345]] and spread lies about you. I restored the content, but can you please restore the page title and block the vandal? Thanks. [[User:DentsAndDings|DentsAndDings]] ([[User talk:DentsAndDings|talk]]) 19:14, 30 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
: ShoutWiki staff are already one step ahead of you ;) --[[User:Lcawte|Lewis Cawte]] ([[User talk:Lcawte|talk]]) <staff /> 19:18, 30 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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::* Thanks :) [[File:Busey.png|link= User:Oddguy]] [[User:Oddguy|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:red;font-weight:bold;font-size: 16px">oddguy</span>]] [[File:Busey.png|link= User Talk:Oddguy]] 19:27, 30 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
::: Should be cleaned up for the second time today. We'll be turning on some rate limiting for page moves for "new" users so it should take determined vandals a lot longer to do something like this if they ever want to try it again. --[[User:Lcawte|Lewis Cawte]] ([[User talk:Lcawte|talk]]) <staff /> 20:00, 30 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Oddguy, Lcawte: The Furthia High page is still messed up; it's at [[FurtODDGUY TOLD CYN HE WOULD RAPE HER hia High]] and it looks like it was made a redirect to itself. Please fix? [[User:DentsAndDings|DentsAndDings]] ([[User talk:DentsAndDings|talk]]) 07:14, 1 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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my name is Ekaclatrommi pronounced as E-kac-la-trom-mi and im 13 years old<br />
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am i doing this right?</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Long_Tom&diff=11438User talk:Long Tom2015-01-30T19:42:00Z<p>DentsAndDings: Undo revision 11435 by DentsAndDings (talk)</p>
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<div>== I made you an admin. ==<br />
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* Hope that's cool [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 09:44, 5 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== About the Sandra And Woo review + viki fox + ozzy and milly. ==<br />
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* <u>'''Sandra & Woo-''' </u> It seems the creator reported the images you uploaded to imgur to have them deleted... I can't prove this, but none of out other imgur content has ever been deleted and the maker of this comic has a history of being butthurt about the review. But it's just in time because on this wiki we have to upload directly. So do me a favor and upload all the pictures of that review to the wiki when you see this. I'll handle the rest... By the way, wanna link to her site directly to see how long until she redirects our traffic again? Just to piss her off some more.<br />
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* <u>'''Vikki Fox + Ozzy & Milly-''' </u> I am moving those reviews out of the main listing and into our article section. Sorry, but when people see these comics in the bad comics list they think we think these are bad webcomics, and since O&M is renowned for being a good comic it discredits us... at least in the eyes of those who do not bother to actually read it, which I suspect is most people. So I am not going to delete them but I am going to make a section for good webcomic reviews in the article section. Hope you're okay with that...[[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 15:21, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== You done with [[Eerie cuties]]? ==<br />
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Tell me when you finish it so U can post about it.[[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 08:08, 26 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Need a reply ==<br />
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:* Yo, I sent you a PM on the forum. Did you see it? I need to know your answer about that. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 18:07, 23 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Yo Tom. I want "bridges" ==<br />
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* I called dibs on it like a year ago. [[File:Busey.png|link= User:Oddguy]] [[User:Oddguy|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:red;font-weight:bold;font-size: 16px">oddguy</span>]] [[File:Busey.png|link= User Talk:Oddguy]] 19:13, 1 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Removing Dume? ==<br />
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*The guy who made [[Dume]] emailed us and asked nicely if we can delete the review. He said he made the comic long ago and just wants to move on. Honestly, the comic is THAT bad... what do you think? I don't mind deleting it but it's your review so I don't wanna do it before I know how you feel about it. [[File:Busey.png|link= User:Oddguy]] [[User:Oddguy|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:red;font-weight:bold;font-size: 16px">oddguy</span>]] [[File:Busey.png|link= User Talk:Oddguy]] 14:09, 12 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== So you're just shoving giant pictures in the center of every article? ==<br />
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* Can you not resize them so that it doesn't look like shit? Why are you even taking entire pages? Just cut out the important part. None of these are interesting or funny. [[File:Busey.png|link= User:Oddguy]] [[User:Oddguy|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:red;font-weight:bold;font-size: 16px">oddguy</span>]] [[File:Busey.png|link= User Talk:Oddguy]] 08:34, 17 November 2014 (UTC)</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Long_Tom&diff=11435User talk:Long Tom2015-01-30T19:39:21Z<p>DentsAndDings: /* Sonichu */ new section</p>
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* Hope that's cool [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 09:44, 5 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== About the Sandra And Woo review + viki fox + ozzy and milly. ==<br />
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* <u>'''Sandra & Woo-''' </u> It seems the creator reported the images you uploaded to imgur to have them deleted... I can't prove this, but none of out other imgur content has ever been deleted and the maker of this comic has a history of being butthurt about the review. But it's just in time because on this wiki we have to upload directly. So do me a favor and upload all the pictures of that review to the wiki when you see this. I'll handle the rest... By the way, wanna link to her site directly to see how long until she redirects our traffic again? Just to piss her off some more.<br />
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* <u>'''Vikki Fox + Ozzy & Milly-''' </u> I am moving those reviews out of the main listing and into our article section. Sorry, but when people see these comics in the bad comics list they think we think these are bad webcomics, and since O&M is renowned for being a good comic it discredits us... at least in the eyes of those who do not bother to actually read it, which I suspect is most people. So I am not going to delete them but I am going to make a section for good webcomic reviews in the article section. Hope you're okay with that...[[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 15:21, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== You done with [[Eerie cuties]]? ==<br />
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Tell me when you finish it so U can post about it.[[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 08:08, 26 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Need a reply ==<br />
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:* Yo, I sent you a PM on the forum. Did you see it? I need to know your answer about that. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 18:07, 23 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Yo Tom. I want "bridges" ==<br />
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* I called dibs on it like a year ago. [[File:Busey.png|link= User:Oddguy]] [[User:Oddguy|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:red;font-weight:bold;font-size: 16px">oddguy</span>]] [[File:Busey.png|link= User Talk:Oddguy]] 19:13, 1 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Removing Dume? ==<br />
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*The guy who made [[Dume]] emailed us and asked nicely if we can delete the review. He said he made the comic long ago and just wants to move on. Honestly, the comic is THAT bad... what do you think? I don't mind deleting it but it's your review so I don't wanna do it before I know how you feel about it. [[File:Busey.png|link= User:Oddguy]] [[User:Oddguy|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:red;font-weight:bold;font-size: 16px">oddguy</span>]] [[File:Busey.png|link= User Talk:Oddguy]] 14:09, 12 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== So you're just shoving giant pictures in the center of every article? ==<br />
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* Can you not resize them so that it doesn't look like shit? Why are you even taking entire pages? Just cut out the important part. None of these are interesting or funny. [[File:Busey.png|link= User:Oddguy]] [[User:Oddguy|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:red;font-weight:bold;font-size: 16px">oddguy</span>]] [[File:Busey.png|link= User Talk:Oddguy]] 08:34, 17 November 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Sonichu ==<br />
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There's some pagemove vandalism going on at [[Sonichu]]. The vandal was blocked but the vandalism hasn't been fully reverted. The page is currently at something like Nigger nigger nigger345. Could you please fix? [[User:DentsAndDings|DentsAndDings]] ([[User talk:DentsAndDings|talk]]) 19:39, 30 January 2015 (UTC)</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oddguy&diff=11387User talk:Oddguy2015-01-30T19:14:03Z<p>DentsAndDings: /* Sonichu */ new section</p>
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<div>== Auto-fix images ==<br />
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Hey,<br />
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I'm working on a script that automatically converts the old markdown syntax to the new one, but I'm sort of stuck with how to deal with images. Is there any way we can have the entire image archive moved over at once, while keeping the same names? That way fixing the image tags would just involve changing the syntax, while keeping the same link address.<br />
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* Wow, a scrip? That's amazing man. I wish I knew how to do that kind of cool stuff... Anyway, i'll look into it but I will tell you right now that I seriously doubt it. I'lll get back to you once I know. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 14:56, 4 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:*A shame about the images.You can basically see an example of what the script's good for here: http://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Gyno-Star. If you know how to run Python scripts I can give you the source code, or I can try and turn it into an executable and get back to you in a few days. --[[User:AMysteriousStranger|AMysteriousStranger]] ([[User talk:AMysteriousStranger|talk]]) 02:30, 7 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::* Well, it isn't perfect, but it should still cut down our work. Sadly I don't know how to run python scripts. Let me know if you can turn it into an executable. Thank you for the help.[[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 03:10, 7 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== question ==<br />
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I have a webcomic in mind, but do I need to go to the forum and talk about it or should I just create the article?--[[File:Mr toast.jpg|link=Toast]][[User:Milwin|<span style="color:yellow;font-weight:bold">'''milwin'''</span>]][[File:my toaster.jpg|link=User talk:milwin|Wanna get toasty :3]] 11:53, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
*wait there is no forum--[[File:Mr toast.jpg|link=Toast]][[User:Milwin|<span style="color:yellow;font-weight:bold">'''milwin'''</span>]][[File:my toaster.jpg|link=User talk:milwin|Wanna get toasty :3]] 11:54, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:* Well, generally speaking- Yes. You need to make a thread on the forum and people need to voice their opinion on it. But you should tell me the comic, if I know it and it's bad i'll give you a green light right now. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 11:55, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
::*well it's not a webcomic you probably know, but it's a dbz fanfic called Dragon ball multiverse, not the concept is cool and the art is great. But there is one problem with all of that, the author salagar is know for his mary sue characters that he prefers over other characters in the db universe. He even admits many times that he changed many DB logic to his own because he didn't like it.And worst of all is that he didn't change, he hasn't improve since all those years in his story writing, and we can see clear biased favoritism over characters, also according to salager's logic future gohan is stronger than dabura yet weaker than 18&17 ^_^.--[[File:Mr toast.jpg|link=Toast]][[User:Milwin|<span style="color:yellow;font-weight:bold">'''milwin'''</span>]][[File:my toaster.jpg|link=User talk:milwin|Wanna get toasty :3]] 12:08, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::* Honestly man? This sounds like a bad reason to write a review, but it's not up to me to decide. The problem is- You have to make a new thread to ask people if you can review it, to do that you need an account on the old BWW, but you can't make an account because wikidot made us be privet and and we hit the 1000 user limit for free wikis.<br />
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::: It will be a while until I figure out how to make a new forum. So this will have to wait.[[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 12:16, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::::* ok I'm gonna gather my thoughts and write why I dislike this webcomic, send me a message on edf when the forums are up.--[[File:Mr toast.jpg|link=Toast]][[User:Milwin|<span style="color:yellow;font-weight:bold">'''milwin'''</span>]][[File:my toaster.jpg|link=User talk:milwin|Wanna get toasty :3]] 12:38, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::* You know what? Write down what you want to say and i'll make the thread for you. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 12:41, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::::::* thx, DBM is just as confusing, overpowered and out of character moments as Dbgt, in same ways worse. Its fanmade but still.. I also give up on arguing with people on Kanzenshuu forum. They arent really having any good point. Its just repeating themselves over and over again"Vegeta has to be good or else he wont get the Mystic power up." "We know much about Hanasia as we do about Bardock. Shes not a Mary Sue. She was killed by Rachi so she isnt perfect!". Im done with it to be honest lol.<br />
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::::::* Funny how Salgar likes to bash GT and what not, DBM has even more plotholes than GT (Broly fighting evenly with Vegito, Gohan being able to give away his mystic power, etc...)<br />
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::::::*But Salagir REALLY dropped the ball there, Dabura is stronger than 17, 18, 19, and 20 combined. Yet somehow Future Gohan is able to match Dabura in a fight and even kill him in the end...WTF?!<br />
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::::::*The thing I hate, that they give HUGE plot armor to certain characters. I mean how did U13 Kakarot get so strong without training? How did U13 Vegeta turn into a Super Saiyan at Namek? How come Dabura didn't kill Gohan in the Mirai universe? etc...<br />
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::::::*There are many characters that are out of characters like when gohan was givving his mystic power to the saiyans, gohan would never try to make a deal with the bad guys he could've just told them to fuck off since they can't touch him or hurt him since they would be disqualified from the tournament.SO WHY WOULD HE HELP THEM.<br />
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::::::*"Salagar said that he considers DBM more canon then DBGT"<br />
So he basically believes that the fan comic that hes writing is more canon than what the studio that funded the original Dragonball and DBZ made. Wow.<br />
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::::::*He makes specials now and then which explains the back story of certain characters, but he REALLY makes crappy and boring ones as well like the bojack one.<br />
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::::::*In the latest chapter he made vegito lose becuase of a dirty trick, but he made him look like a crybaby,whats funny is that Vegito beat Wanked Powered Broly the exact same way. Out of the ring for 30 seconds on both ends. Vegito knows he lost fair and square otherwise he wouldnt use that tactic on Broly. Now the rules are stupid because someone did the same thing to him.It's childish and inexcusable for someone in his position. He knows he's the most powerful being there, he should be responsible with that power instead of throwing a big tantrum and attacking people who had nothing to do with it. Anger is not an excuse that kind of behavior. He's had plenty years to learn how control himself, the Vegeta and Goku side of him are gone, he is his own person now. He tells Bra to control her anger (Which she didnt) yet he cant control himself. What a hypocrite.--[[File:Mr toast.jpg|link=Toast]][[User:Milwin|<span style="color:yellow;font-weight:bold">'''milwin'''</span>]][[File:my toaster.jpg|link=User talk:milwin|Wanna get toasty :3]] 12:59, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::* Okay, I made a thread on the forum... Although I don't think anyone will understand what you are talking about... it sounds like you want to write a review because you are mad at this comic for fucking up the show's internat cannon about who is stronger or weaker... It's like writing a review about someone who disagrees with you about who would win in a fight between batman and superman. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 13:14, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::::::* I'm disappointed because I used to be a fan of this webcomic which is I'm mad at it, now the story writing has gone shit which is why I got a bit frustrated, you can say it had a huge downfall(especially the latest chapters).--[[File:Mr toast.jpg|link=Toast]][[User:Milwin|<span style="color:yellow;font-weight:bold">'''milwin'''</span>]][[File:my toaster.jpg|link=User talk:milwin|Wanna get toasty :3]] 13:20, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::* You have to explain what is wrong with the comic better... Besides it getting DBZ's internal mythology wrong.[[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 13:21, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::*That's because it's salager's version of dbz, and like I said there are many plot armor in the story,and I think I mentioned the mary sue.--[[File:Mr toast.jpg|link=Toast]][[User:Milwin|<span style="color:yellow;font-weight:bold">'''milwin'''</span>]][[File:my toaster.jpg|link=User talk:milwin|Wanna get toasty :3]] 13:24, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::*Anyway see if it's fit for a review or anything, I'm going back to developing the rpg game we're working on.--[[File:Mr toast.jpg|link=Toast]][[User:Milwin|<span style="color:yellow;font-weight:bold">'''milwin'''</span>]][[File:my toaster.jpg|link=User talk:milwin|Wanna get toasty :3]] 13:32, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::* Gook luck with that. I'll let you know what the guys say.[[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 13:35, 6 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==hi theres admins]==<br />
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helo my name is spilunk sna i am here to help with an aritcle idea i had bout a webcomic i know caled calbin and jobbs which was popular in news. its about a galbin and a jobbs and their adventuress trhogu time. pleas ehalfp [[User:Spilunk|Spilunk]] ([[User talk:Spilunk|talk]]) 13:23, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Collective Reviews ==<br />
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I've started working on a template for webcomic collective reviews. I have a rough outline right now. Would you like me to send it in a private message to your profile on the old wiki, or just post it here?--[[User:Izzus|Izzus]] ([[User talk:Izzus|talk]]) 14:47, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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* Post it here. There is no reason to keep it a secret. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 14:48, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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* Gotcha.--[[User:Izzus|Izzus]] ([[User talk:Izzus|talk]]) 14:55, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Collective Name:'''<br />
|[collective's URL space name of collective]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Ran By:'''<br />
|Name of owner(s) <br />
|-<br />
|'''First Opened On:'''<br />
|Insert the date this collective first appeared on the internet (sources include the website's information page, copyright at the bottom of the page, the website's wiki, http://www.freewebsitereport.org/, google, etc.)<br />
|-<br />
|'''Target Audience:'''<br />
|What demographics does the collective cater to? Examples include mall goths, anime fans, furries, tech geeks, etc. If the comics cater to too many audiences, just say "Multi-Demographic".<br />
|-<br />
|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
|What makes this collective stand out as something horrible?<br />
|}<br />
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'''Rating Summary'''<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable" style="width:600px"><br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Quality Control:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]] This is the measure of how much quality control they use when accepting a new comic to their site.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Site Layout:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]] How easy is it to navigate the site? Do they use blindingly high-contrast color schemes which burn out your eyes? Are the links tiny as hell and difficult to identify?<br />
|-<br />
|'''Community:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]] Is the community full of irrational 12 year olds? Perverts? Are they actually decent?<br />
|-<br />
|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]] Summary of other things you feel like including.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]] How do you feel after writing this review?<br />
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===Introduction===<br />
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Tell us a little about how you found out about this collective. You may optionally include a short summary (no more than two paragraphs) of the site's history.<br />
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===Failure===<br />
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This section is where you tell us about why the collective is so bad.<br />
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===The Comics===<br />
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Talk about the comics they have on the site.<br />
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===Community===<br />
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Does the site have a community forum, IRC, or chat box? If so, please feel free to shit talk them into oblivion. Give a layout of the community, and in the case of forums, what goes on in each section. Feel free to mention notably obnoxious users, mods, and admins, as well as any drama which has spawned due to said people.<br />
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===Conclusion===<br />
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Give your final thoughts on the site.<br />
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===Links===<br />
* Links go here.<br />
* Try to have more than one.<br />
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* Oh! I see! I misunderstood what you meant... Yes! This is a wonderfull idea. I also like it because in a few days I was about to make series templates for KatBox, SNAFU, Fresh Epics, CMX910 and probably the crap that Shomer of L.I.C.D sponsors. This way the templates can also have a main article that is linked to them... I like this idea! Good work! Show me when you think it is done. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 15:02, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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* Very cool, I shall. --[[User:Izzus|Izzus]] ([[User talk:Izzus|talk]]) 15:26, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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* I'm confident that this is polished enough. --[[User:Izzus|Izzus]] ([[User talk:Izzus|talk]]) 16:55, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Collective Name:'''<br />
|[collective's URL space name of collective]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Ran By:'''<br />
|Name of owner(s) <br />
|-<br />
|'''First Opened On:'''<br />
|Insert the date this collective first appeared on the internet (sources include the website's information page, copyright at the bottom of the page, the website's wiki, http://www.freewebsitereport.org/, google, etc.)<br />
|-<br />
|'''Target Audience:'''<br />
|What demographics does the collective cater to? Examples include mall goths, , anime fans, furries, tech geeks, etc. If the comics cater to too many audiences, just say "Multi-Demographic".<br />
|-<br />
|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
|What makes this collective stand out as something horrible?<br />
|}<br />
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'''Rating Summary'''<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable" style="width:600px"><br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Quality Control:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br>This is the measure of how much quality control they use when accepting a new comic to their site and maintaining the new updates to their current comics.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Site Layout:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br>How easy is it to navigate the site? Do they use blindingly high-contrast color schemes which burn out your eyes? Are the links tiny as hell and difficult to identify?<br />
|-<br />
|'''Community:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br>Is the community full of irrational manchildren? Perverts? Are they actually decent? Is there a community at all?<br />
|-<br />
|'''Store:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br>If the site has a store, rate it. If not, say there isn't one and move on.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br>Summary of other things you feel like including.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br>How do you feel after writing this review?<br />
|}<br />
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===Introduction===<br />
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Tell us a little about how you found out about this collective, what your first impressions were, and why you decided that it was bad.<br />
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===The Comics===<br />
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Talk about the comics they have on the site. No need to give a full review for each one, just give us a general summary. If there are too many comics to go over, tell us about the popular ones instead.<br />
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===Community===<br />
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Does the site have a community forum, IRC, or chat box? If so, you are encouraged to shit talk them into oblivion. Give a layout of the community, and in the case of forums, what goes on in each section. Feel free to mention notably obnoxious users, mods, and admins, as well as any drama which has spawned due to said people. If there is no on-site community, remove this section and continue the review.<br />
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===Social Media===<br />
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Does the site have a facebook account? Twitter? Tell us about it.<br />
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===Various Failures===<br />
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This is the part where you get to tell us about the bad things which don't pertain to the community, comics, or social media.<br />
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===Conclusion===<br />
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Give your final thoughts on the site.<br />
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===Links===<br />
* Links go here.<br />
* Try to have more than one.<br />
* Three+ is ideal.<br />
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=== Okay===<br />
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::*1) Looks good... "Social Media" will probably be useless... I don't remember any webcomic group that has a facebook or anything like that. Annd if they do I doubt there is anything to say about them.<br />
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::*2) "Various Failures" will probably also be useless... We can keep it, but I can''t think of any way a webcomic collective can fail that is not the failure of one of the webcomic artist or fans. The only way a webcomic groups fails ''as a group'' is by virtue of joining together a bunch f really bad webcomics.<br />
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::*3) Now the question is: "What to do with this?"... Should we make a new page for this template? We are only going to get a limited amout of use out of it because there are only so many of these groups we can review. The only ones I can think of are: SNAFU, Fresh Epics, KatBox, Rayen Shomer Productions, CMX910 and maaaaaybe Comic Genessis. That's six pages this can be used for, tops.<br><br />
::There are also "LoveShack" and "Tomboy", but they aren't bad in any way... Point is: Template done, what now?[[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 17:31, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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*Understandable. I initially designed the template thinking about how I would review Drunkduck or SNAFU, and included the topics I would touch upon with those reviews. I think that since the template's topic is so niche it would be a good idea to hand it out to people who want to write the review rather than make a whole new page for it. At least, that's my two cents. --[[User:Izzus|Izzus]] ([[User talk:Izzus|talk]]) 17:24, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::* I still wanna make a page. First- so it will be saved somewhere other than my user-page. And second- so that if anyone wants to write a review about a group he will know that this is an option+ have a ready-made template.[[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 17:31, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::* That seems reasonable. I look forward to the finalized page. --[[User:Izzus|Izzus]] ([[User talk:Izzus|talk]]) 18:38, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::::* The finalized page is just a copy/paste of what you just posted here. Or do you mean the first review made with it? [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 18:55, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::* In fact, here it is- [[Webcomic Group Review Template]].<br />
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:::::::* Both, sort of. I thought you were going to remove the social media section and touch it up, but a copy paste job is good too. As for the first review under that template, I do look forward to it. --[[User:Izzus|Izzus]] ([[User talk:Izzus|talk]]) 19:43, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::* The first one will probably be your DrunkDuck/SNAFU thing... people will need an example of what to do before any of them tries it himself OI suspect. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 19:50, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Hey there. ==<br />
Hey there, I am a new member here and I just want to ask one question. Are we allowed to fix the grammatical errors of the reviews here? [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 06:41, 17 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:* Not only can but encouraged to do so... we often have overlooked mistakes on some reviews and anyone who is willing to help fix them will have my gratitude. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 12:10, 17 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:* Okay, thanks. [[User:Alan Pardew|Alan Pardew]] ([[User talk:Alan Pardew|talk]]) 06:36, 18 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Webcomic Groups page ==<br />
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Hey, long-time lurker from the old website. Quick question, are you the same Oddguy that I sometimes see pop up over at Shittywebcomics?<br />
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Anyways, I notice on the new site a bunch of comics have a template for major webcomic hosts like keenspot or pixie trix. I like the idea, but I think we can also make a page so that it's easy to navigate comics by host, and perhaps add some extra information like a brief history of the host and perhaps some other comics/affiliates that don't have a review on this site. What do you think? [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 19:57, 18 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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EDIT: Derp. I look up and it seems someone already has the same idea, they just used the word collective and I didn't catch it at first. [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 19:59, 18 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::* To answer your question - I don't know. They quoted me a number of times on things I never said. At first they quoted something someone else said on another website I use and I assumed it was a mistake. But when I corrected them they made fun of me and said that I am not the only oddguy. I am not sure if that was just a joke or they really thought I am some other oddguy, but now it has become a running gag where they attribute random quotes to "oddguy" which if really funny to me. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 21:05, 18 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::*OK then. Well, my last idea might be already taken, but I noticed on your list that you wanted to get Tails Gets Trolled reviewed. I'm actually reading it right now and have some prior wiki experience. Would it be ok if I started drafting a review on my page? [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 23:31, 18 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::::* Uh... actually, I have a sort of secret thing going on regarding that comic that I don't want to get into details about because it will ruin the surprise. It might still be a while, but that's why I am not writing a review yet and don't want anyone else to. Sorry. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 07:00, 19 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Forums ==<br />
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I'm getting "Sorry, you can not add new post in this thread. Only members of this site, site administrators and perhaps selected moderators are allowed to do it." no matter which forum I post in. Even ones like the "Challenges to Existing Reviews". Why is this? [[User:DentsAndDings|DentsAndDings]] ([[User talk:DentsAndDings|talk]]) 09:18, 26 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::* I should really get on that............ The thing is we moved to this site from another site because we were violating ToS over there. So they made out site privet and everyone who wanted to read it had to join. But free sites on wikidot have a 1000 user limit. So when we hit it no one could join our site and we moved here instead. But I haven't made a new forum for us yet and anyone who hasn't already joined the old site can't join now or pot on the forum............. I have been slacking on this for too long. I promise that I will make a new forum for us some time soon. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 10:03, 26 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Lesbot ==<br />
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Hey Oddguy, is there anyway to get in contact with Lesbot? I need to ask (presumably) her if she has a certain comic archived. Thanks a lot man.<br />
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[[User:Laurie Mondone|Laurie Mondone]] ([[User talk:Laurie Mondone|talk]]) 22:21, 3 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:* I can try to look her up but I don't think "Lesbot" is a very original username so I doubt I will be able to. What comic is it? [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 06:47, 4 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Oh, it's Shredded Moose. I just wanted to see if Lesbot still had the comics that she used for the images she posted in the Shredded Moose review. I'd be grateful if someone has anything from that comic saved since it's so rare, nowadays. <br />
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On a side note, I do have an interesting reaction from Shredded Moose's author. After he flipped out and destroyed his whole website, Brew moved on to illustrating several children's books, ironically after he wrote a comic about aborting them and shooting them. Just goes to show that negative reviews can do something positive for the world.<br />
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[[User:Laurie Mondone|Laurie Mondone]] ([[User talk:Laurie Mondone|talk]]) 15:58, 4 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::* I see... I will try to contact her but I think she just linked to the site. I doubt she saved any of it. You might find some of it still saved on [http://web.archive.org/web/20130701000000*/http://www.shreddedmoose.com/ web archive] if you look real hard... About the reaction... do you have something he posted? And was the reaction to OUR review or just in general? [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 16:36, 4 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks! I already tried the web archive to no avail sadly.<br />
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And nah, I think it was more a reaction in general to the whole internet calling him out. I only know this because I stumbled onto his site: http://www.brianartwork.com/ I just think it's funny that after three years of being the edgemiester, he moved on to children's books.<br />
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[[User:Laurie Mondone|Laurie Mondone]] ([[User talk:Laurie Mondone|talk]]) 17:01, 4 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::::* Hahaha... that is pretty funny. I'll let you know if I find anything out abourt where to find some of the comic. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 17:52, 4 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Confused ==<br />
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Hi, I'm new here. It's been said that if I want to suggest a webcomic to be reviewed, I have to put it on the forum, but the forum link keeps taking me to the old site. Can you help?<br />
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::* Yeah, sorry about that. We moved sites because our old site got shut down and it won't allow new members to join now. I need to make a new forum to solve this problem and I intend to do that in the next few days. I actually already found a good free forum site and made one but i'm still playing around with it before I make it public. So wait a few more days and you can post your topic on our new forum... sorry for the inconvenience. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 18:54, 6 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Sinfest update ==<br />
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I don't know if you remember, but a while back I posted a suggestion for updating the sinfest article on the forums. You said you'd eventually add it, but it's been a while since then. Do you mind if I work it in myself? Most likely I'll use most of what I already wrote and put it in the writing section. [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 17:54, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:*Alright, do your thing. But I wanna talk about this a bit before you do because I have to be honest... some of the points you make? Really reaching. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 22:14, 19 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Ok, but do you mind weighing in on which points you think need work? I think its best if you go back to the original forum post and point out which ones. I'm considering condensing anyways, so I could simply just pluck out the weaker points and just write just a paragraph or two on consistency. [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 03:02, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::* Okay, i'll get to it sometime soon. I'm at work right now. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 14:00, 23 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Contact ==<br />
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Hi Oddguy, could you contact me directly ASAP (via email) at lcawte (at) shoutwiki.com. Thanks --[[User:Lcawte|&#91;&#91;User:Lcawte&#124;Lewis Cawte&#93;&#93; (&#91;&#91;User talk:Lcawte&#124;talk&#93;&#93;) &#60;staff /&#62;]] ([[User talk:Lcawte|talk]]) 16:47, 6 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Category Link ==<br />
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Hi Oddguy,<br />
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I created [[:category:Webcomics]] and linked all webcomic review pages to it, and am thinking of putting non-review articles such as [[BWW Tutorials and Lectures]] in another category. I did so because I was just hitting the random button and didn't see any lists of articles. I used the [http://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Special:AllPages all pages link] which I only know about because I'm an administrator on a couple of non-related wikis.<br />
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There's no link to this category, obviously, on the main page, but I thought new visitors to the site might want to see it. [[User:ArthurD2|ArthurD2]] ([[User talk:ArthurD2|talk]]) 17:27, 10 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:* Oh! Thank you so much! I can never bring myself to do this kind of stuff. '''<3''' [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 20:43, 10 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Fair Use Liscenses ==<br />
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Hey, I see you're adding fair use tags to images. I think that's a good idea, and while I'm not 100% certain about how it all is supposed to work, Normally I see them put on the file page itself rather than the talk page. [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 15:19, 8 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:* I'm not 100% on this either but Shoutwiki asked me to do this for images that complain about copyright... The wife of the guy that does RA has been trying to get all the Frech Epics reviews taken down. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 17:09, 8 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::* Well yes, obviously, they're a good idea. I just think it'd be more useful to have them on the file page instead of the talk, as that's the normal wiki practice. It's also easier to find that way. [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 23:58, 8 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== What the hell, dude?==<br />
Almost every other fucking review you write uses the words "tranny" or "retarded," sometimes multiple times. I have a hard time believing no one's called you on your shit before, so you've probably been deleting criticism and will delete this one too, but I'm going to write it anyway. Fuck you dude. I enjoyed this website until I stumbled across the reviews written by ''you'', the admin, and realized that you're actually a bigoted piece of shit. [[User:Johnnyo|Johnnyo]] ([[User talk:Johnnyo|talk]]) 01:51, 14 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:* Actually, no. No one has called me out on it since this isn't tumblr you quivering little pussy. I have, however, been called out on it on some other sites, but I don't give a shit. Therefore, to you I say: Fuck off you tranny retard.<br />
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::P.S- I also make fun of fat people. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 03:41, 14 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:::* Wait a minute... I actually just did a search for the words "Retard", "Tranny" and "Retarded" on the site and found that we have about 80 pages with the word retard/retarded, most of which were not made by me (obviously) and three pages with the word tranny, two of which are mine. If those words offend you then you should have fucked off a long time ago. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 03:59, 14 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== New Template ==<br />
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I created a draft for a new template on my [http://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/User:Plarblman/Sandbox sandbox page]. I think it'd be useful for us to distinguish between actual porn comics and cheesecake comics. Besides having different levels of sexual content in them, I think it also helps identify comics that are too pathetic to go full porn. Tell me what you think. [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 16:33, 25 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:* That's a good idea. It'll save us more arguments over what should and shouldn't be tagged NSFW. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 17:05, 25 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:* At least some cheesecake comics may still count as NSFW, but creating a distinction will let readers know how NSFW it is. I'm thinking of doing a code yellow: cheesecake and a code red: porn distinction to show the severity. I'll modify it further to show you what I mean. [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 18:05, 25 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::* Okay. [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 20:41, 25 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:::* If you're satisfied with it, I can start adding it to reviews right away. The only question is whether or not I use it to replace the NSFW template or add it underneath. What do you think? [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 22:26, 25 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::::* Yeah, replace it. comics that are tagged NSFW and are just cheesecake, replace the template with the yellow template. Comics that are NSFW and are tagged NSFW replace the template with the red template. That's gonna be our new NSFW template and i'll retire the old one. Don't forget to make template pages... You know how to do that, right? [[File:Busey.png]][[User:Oddguy|<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">'''oddguy'''</span>]][[File:Busey.png]] 07:24, 26 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:::::* Yeah. I'll get on that right away. I'll just do the easy thing and edit the current NSFW template with the red one so that I don't have to go into every review and replace it manually. [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 14:05, 26 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Adding links in other pages ==<br />
Hey Mr. Oddguy, I was reading some miscellaneous pages such as the Mary-Sue page and saw some words that could be linked to other pages/other comic reviews (like talking about CAD, but there is no link to the review), am I allowed to do this? --[[User:Eldeon|Eldeon]] ([[User talk:Eldeon|talk]]) 21:41, 3 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:* Oh yeah, sure, that would be wonderful (please don't call me "mr.") [[File:Busey.png|link= User:Oddguy]] [[User:Oddguy|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:red;font-weight:bold;font-size: 16px">oddguy</span>]] [[File:Busey.png|link= User Talk:Oddguy]] 22:11, 3 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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:**I apologize; I did not mean to offend.--[[User:Eldeon|Eldeon]] ([[User talk:Eldeon|talk]]) 20:25, 4 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::* Hahaha all good man i'm just joking around but there is no need for formality i'm just a site admin. [[File:Busey.png|link= User:Oddguy]] [[User:Oddguy|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:red;font-weight:bold;font-size: 16px">oddguy</span>]] [[File:Busey.png|link= User Talk:Oddguy]] 20:40, 4 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== spambots ==<br />
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You seem to be having some trouble with those spambots; I noticed they keep uploading the same pages over and over. I'm not familiar with shoutwiki but on wikia you're able to block certain pages from being created. Have you tried that? [[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]] ([[User talk:Plarblman|talk]]) 20:23, 29 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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::* I doubt that can be done but i'll check. [[File:Busey.png|link= User:Oddguy]] [[User:Oddguy|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:red;font-weight:bold;font-size: 16px">oddguy</span>]] [[File:Busey.png|link= User Talk:Oddguy]] 08:12, 30 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== The spam page ==<br />
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I actually meant deleting [[Why Shemale Cam Is No Friend To Small Business]] the spam page itself, not just the talk page. - [[User:LucidFox|LucidFox]] ([[User talk:LucidFox|talk]]) 08:32, 25 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Sonichu ==<br />
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A pagemove vandal moved the page to [[Nigger nigger nigger345]] and spread lies about you. I restored the content, but can you please restore the page title and block the vandal? Thanks. [[User:DentsAndDings|DentsAndDings]] ([[User talk:DentsAndDings|talk]]) 19:14, 30 January 2015 (UTC)</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Sonichu&diff=11383Sonichu2015-01-30T19:12:10Z<p>DentsAndDings: restore minus blacklisted links</p>
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<div>{{A Bomb}}<br />
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{{WComic Infobox<br />
|review author = {{oddguy}}<br />
|webcomic name = [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu+Comic+Collection Sonichu]<br />
|author = [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcville/ Christian Weston "Ricardo" Chandler], AKA "Chris-chan", AKA "C.W.C"<br />
|start date = November 24, 2004, was the date he began drawing the cover of issue 0, although it's unclear when he actually began drawing "Sonichu" comics. Probably sometime in High School.<br />
|end date = On hiatus since May 27, 2010, due to trolls ruining his "inspiration", or possibly because making the comic is too much work (he is unemployed and drawing a page takes him an hour).<br />
|genre = "Adventure"<br />
|flaw = Literally everything<br />
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'''Rating Summary'''<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable" style="width:600px"><br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Art:'''<br />
|[[File:Sonichu-art-review.jpg|100px]]<br>They say autistic people are supposed to be artistically inclined, but I see no evidence of that here. I could draw better than this in the fourth grade, if not sooner.<br />
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|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:Sonichu-storyline-review.jpg|100px]]<br>Most insane crap you will ever read. And yet, not even remotely entertaining.<br />
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|'''Characters:'''<br />
|[[File:Sonichu-characters-review.png|100px]]<br>All the heroes are Mary-Sue Sonic recolors, all the heroines are objects that can talk and only exist to serve as someone's love interest. All the villains are demonized versions of people the creator knows in real life with their actual motivations replaced with: "they hate autistic people and want to stop Chris from finding love".<br />
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|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Sonichu-misc-details-review.jpg|100px]]<br>I wouldn't even know where to start.<br />
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|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Hurtsoul.jpg|100px]]<br>Never in your life will you find something quite as bad and deranged as this. You have my guarantee.<br />
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==Background==<br />
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[[File:Sonichu.jpg|200px|right]]<br />
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Take [[Ctrl+Alt+Del|Tim Buckley's]] attitude, [[So..._You%27re_a_Cartoonist?|Tom Preston's]] "commitment" to criticism, [[Pastel Defender Heliotrope|JDR's]] insanity, [[Powerpuff Girls Doujinshi|Bleedman's]] love of plagiarism, [[Better Days|Jay Naylor's]] political views, and [[Jack|Dave Hopkins']] art skills. Now multiply all those things by a million and you will have Christian Weston Chandler's ''The Adventures of Sonichu And Rosechu'', or as it's also known, ''Sonichu''. Without a doubt <u>'''THE WORST WEBCOMIC EVER'''</u>. Now, some of you may be thinking, "oh, that's just your opinion," but I assure you, it is a fact. <br />
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Before I even start, I think a few preemptive clarifications and apologies are in order. Firstly, I regret to admit that this will not be a comprehensive review. This is simply because addressing every single flaw in this comic and every single public spectacle caused by its creator is an insurmountable task. Even adding links for everything that ''is'' mentioned in this article to the corresponding page is a bit too much. At the moment "Chris-chan" has one of the longest and most convoluted articles ever written on Encyclopedia Dramatica, and there are two entire wikis dedicated to Christian and his comic. The [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Main_Page "CWCki"] contains over 1,300 articles and grows continuously, and the now debunked but still archived [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Main_Page "CWCpedia"] contains an additional 899 articles. There's also a [http://www.youtube.com/user/Asperchu third] [http://web.archive.org/web/20100330094633/http://www.hsienko.com/asperchu/index.php?title=Main_Page (now deleted)] wiki that dealt solely with [http://asperchu.thecomicseries.com/ Asperchu] and the other numerous ''Sonichu'' parodies that once ran rampant and flooded the net and had another 620 articles. Simply listing everything there is to say about the comic and the man who made it without even going into detail about it would '''still''' result in an article at least twice as long as anything else on BWW. So, I would just like to apologize that, unlike other reviews where we attempt to address everything, with ''Sonichu'', I humbly admit that this can not be done. It is impossible to keep up with everything CWC does, let alone catalog it all in a single page. <br />
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My second apology is that, as you can tell from this intro, this review will run a bit long (and it will be picture-heavy because this stuff is just too funny). Like I explained, although I can never mention everything there is to say about this topic, there is still '''A LOT''' to discuss. I will try to shorten it as much as I can, but this comic deserves a review as long as it gets. And the last thing I would like to say I am sorry for is the untimely fashion in which this review has been presented. A ''Sonichu'' review is '''LONG''' overdue. This thing is the worst webcomic in history. It may be the worst piece of art ever made. It goes beyond having no value or merit to the point that it actually does damage to its readers. Reading this thing may very well make you dumber. I regret a review for it was not made sooner when the comic was more relevant. Its thread has been laying dormant since 2009, and even though I know Chris no longer makes as much of a scene when he is insulted online, I still write this review with an almost perverse glee at the thought that he may discover this review and blow yet another shit fit over it.<br />
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So buckle up, get your puke bucket, and get ready to enter the magical world of ''Sonichu''.<br />
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==Why even review this?==<br />
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[[File:Sonichumedallion.jpg|thumb|200px|left]]<br />
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When this comic was brought up on the BWW forums, one of the questions that arose was, "why bother?" This comic is widely regarded as the worst comic ever made. Everything there is to say about it has already been said. All of its flaws are apparent at first glance, so there is really nothing to review. Furthermore, its creator is autistic, so there's no reason to think any criticism will inspire him to improve, and indeed, it hasn't. So why bother even writing a review for something everyone already knows is bad?<br />
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Except for the last point that I will address later in the "Author Biography" section, I would like to explain why I still went ahead and made a review for this thing.<br />
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It's simple: Because no one has ever reviewed this comic. Everything to say about this comic has been said. However, despite it being the most infamously bad webcomic ever to reach the internet, no noteworthy webcomic review site has ever written an article about it. As a person who chooses to document this part of internet culture, and I am speaking not only for the people who write articles for this website, but anyone who has picked up the gauntlet of webcomic reviews (bad or otherwise), and attempt to fill the void left by John Solomon. It is remiss of us to overlook this comic. Everyone and their dog has already said their piece regarding Chris-chan, yet we, the ones who should have been first to approach this, have ignored this literally for years. Us overlooking ''Sonichu'' would be like a chef refusing to use salt. Not having it reviewed on this website is like composing a list of history's greatest thinkers and leaving out Einstein.<br />
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So I know that I am stating the obvious. I know that I am scratching the bottom of the barrel. I know that there's no need to tell anyone this comic is bad. Still, it needs to have an article on this website. Not because I need to convince anyone that it's bad, but simply because it needs an article.<br />
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==Downfall== <br />
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I would like to simply say that this comic was bad from the very beginning, and there is no comic for which this is more true, but that would be taking the easy way out. To be more precise, there are two instances where the comic's quality takes a nose dive like a drunk Olympic swimmer flying a malfunctioning airplane with one wing missing.<br />
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The first comes around [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_2/Page_1 issue two, episode seven], where the focus shifts from the comic's titular character "Sonichu" to Chris-Chan's Mary-Sue self-insert. From then on, the comic becomes a series of deranged payback stories about people who Christian thinks wronged him (most of whom were just doing their jobs), and desperate pleas for sex by way of ham-handed and obvious additions of girls he was interested in (70% trolls, 30% girls who found him repulsive) into the comic. Not to say that those things are not what the comic has always been about, but once the camera swayed away from Sonichu and onto Chris, it became more and more obscene and self-indulgent.<br />
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The second part where the comic cranks the crazy up to 11 is near the end. As the comic was winding down to its inevitable demise, Chris began to become more and more unhinged as a result of constant trolling, and around [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_10/Page_2 issue ten], it descended into full-on lunacy. The last two chapters focused almost exclusively on Chandler's epic journey where he brutally murders all his tormentors [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/thumb/3/3a/SchuComic10P35.jpg/512px-SchuComic10P35.jpg alongside countless innocent civilians]. Most of the last few chapters read like a poorly drawn propaganda pamphlet advocating an anti-gay genocide, as well as a semi-separate one for internet trolls. I say "semi-separate" because, in Chris' mind, all trolls are homosexuals and, therefore, evil (I'm not making this up).<br />
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In other words, this comic begins at a lower starting point than any other and continues to deteriorate in congruence with its author's mental health.<br />
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==Story and Plot==<br />
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[[File:RainbowChris.jpg|thumb|250px|right]]<br />
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This story is the most deranged thing you will ever read. The most amazing thing about it is that there actually is any plot at all. Of course, it does not make a single bit of sense and has so many plot holes that you could paint it yellow and call it SpongeBob, but the fact that there is actually some kind of continuity between chapters is a shock in itself that I could barely recover from. There's some kind of prophecy, people trying to get their hands on <strike>Sonichu's balls<strike> the "Sonichu Balls", some characters disappear and cannot rejoin the plot until they are saved from wherever they are stuck, and everything winds down to a "climactic" final battle where Chris and Sonichu finally get the balls, evolve into their ultimate forms, and go fight all their enemies that have joined into one group to destroy CWCville. The fact Chris is able to remember plot points from past episodes is something I ''still'' can't get over.<br />
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Here is a short summary of as of the story that was relevant to the plot and did not veer off into a psychotic tangent:<br />
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"Sonichu" is about a fictional city (whether Chris realizes this place is not real is actually still up for debate) called CWCville (pronounced "Quickville" somehow...) and founded by Chris-chan's father (who named it after his son who he had not yet conceived) where Chris is the mayor (because that position is handed from father to son with no need for an election). When Sonic the Hedgehog fights a monster on the outskirts of town, he crashes into a Pikachu and it becomes a totally new and "original" character called "Sonichu". This also somehow makes Chris his father. The crash also creates a magical rainbow that sends out eggs all over Virginia, the moon, and the past for some reason, that hatch more <strike>Sonic recolors</strike> original characters.<br />
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That is the set up. The plot is more about Chris himself. It follows his romantic misadventures with girls he knows in real life but whom are only interested in him in the comic and avoid him in real life, and his dealing with pretty much anyone who has ever caused him any kind of perceived injustice. This includes a shop owner who banned him from his store for harassing black children and pretending they stole from him, security guards who threw him out of a number of shops and malls for soliciting sex and harassing young girls, an old school dean who kicked him out of school for soliciting sex, ALL MEN EVER for making it hard for him to find a girlfriend, internet trolls, all homosexuals, all asexuals, and anyone else he finds guilty for his own misfortune and mistakes. In the comic, his actions are portrayed in a far more heroic manner. In ''Sonichu'', all these people are after Chris because they don't want him to lose his virginity, or just hate autistics, and all have magical super powers, as does Chris. Every conflict devolves into a massive superhero fight in which Chris wins and deals out disproportionately cruel punishments to anyone who stands in his way. You know, the way he never could in real life.<br />
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The setting of "CWCvile" is even more ridiculous. [http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sonichu Know Your Meme] describes it as a totalitarian communist state, while [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Webcomic/Sonichu?from=Main.Sonichu TV Tropes] says it's more along the lines of an Orwellian nightmare. I interpret it as a crumbling pseudo-religious dictatorship. If you look, you will see that all the elements are there: a megalomaniacal leader that has inherited his power from his father and has passed on all his administrative duties to his employees (his secretary in the comic does all the work), set up his office at the top of the mall which he cannot enter due to rebel forces (he literally can't get into his own office in his own comic), and is backed by his squad of super powered goons who are, by his decree, above the law and may slaughter all his opponents. There is only one [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/KCWC government-sponsored radio station] that plays 24/7 pro-Chris propaganda, all of Chris' opposition are demonized in the press, and in the comic itself, and are either killed or executed after mock trials. All citizens are constantly monitored by the secret police [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Magi-Chan (Magi-Chan)] in all aspects, including sexual activity (gay sex is not allowed in CWCville), and all tobacco and alcohol is forbidden.<br />
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All of this is just the beginning. I wrote three paragraphs without even getting into any of the actual plot points. Like Chris' search for a "boyfriend-free girl", [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/0/01/SchuComic10P09.jpg God and Jesus (or "GodJesus" as Chris once called them) descending from the heavens to tell some girl Chris hardly knew she should be his girlfriend], [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Crystal_Weston_Chandler_%28sister%29 Chris making himself an imaginary twin sister], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_2/Page_2 CHRIS GETTING MAGICAL SONICHU SUPER POWERS FROM HIS NATIVE AMERICAN ANCESTORS], etc.<br />
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You want more crazy shit? Read the comic. Or don't.<br />
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... Yeah, don't.<br />
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==Art review==<br />
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[[File:GoKickHisAss.jpg|thumb|500px|center]]<br />
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The art looks like Chris drew it without using his hands. He was once quoted saying that it takes him an hour to make one page, and he uses pencils, sharpies, and crayons. In a normal comic, I would have to pick and choose what is the best panel to use for me to showcase the flaws in the art, but in this one, I don't even know where to start. I am just going to pick a page at random.<br />
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Let's see... issue 9, page 82...<br />
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[[File:SchuComic9P81.jpg|thumb|400px|center|<center>Oh my! It's a doozy!</center>]]<br />
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In this one, the guy in the upper left corner is [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Liquid Ian Brandon Anderson], which in real life was the name trolls called the real Chris when someone else impersonated him for a while, despite not looking anything like him. This was still more than enough to make Chris rage. In the comic, Ian has just been murdered by Sonichu, and is being taken to Hell by devil trolls as punishment for not being nice to Chris, after which Sonichu is confronted by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Eggman Dr. Ivo Robotnik], [http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/Giovanni Giovanni from Pokémon], and his son, who are holding Rosechu hostage with the help of a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decepticon Decepticon].<br />
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[[File:best_mall.jpg|thumb|350px|right|<center>''BEST FUCKING MALL '''EVER!!!!'''''</center>]]<br />
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But enough about what's going on and onto the art. What is there to say? You have eyes, don't you? You see it. None of the characters look like who they are supposed to be, nothing is consistent, the background has a habit of disappearing without explanation (as well as characters' entire bodies whenever Chris gets too lazy, leaving them with nothing but a floating head), and Eggman's nose looks like a penis. The art fits the story like a shit encrusted glove. If you pay attention, you will also notice that "Rosechu" is a dead ringer for Amy Rose. [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/7/72/E1p35.jpg At one point in the comic, they meet and it is impossible to tell who is who.]<br />
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Oh, and did you know that Chris also has a degree in [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/CADD "Computer-Aided Drafting and Design"]? What have you done with ''your'' life?! But spending six years getting this degree (it was a two year course) still did not seem to help him at all. Not even a fully sentient super computer from the future like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_9000 HAL 9000] could help Chris with his drafting and design. Even more hilariously, whenever someone makes a parody of his comic, he criticizes it on the quality of its art, claiming it is not as good as his.<br />
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==Writing review== <br />
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[[File:Thw world.jpg|thumb|250px|left|<center>"''Go Magi! Go out into '''thw''' world!''"</center>]]<br />
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There is a typo on the very first page. "Our story begins in a open field five '''''mies''''' from the city of Station Square" and all text is written in ALL CAPS Comic Sans. That's not enough? I think that says it all. <br />
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Fine. Read on. <br />
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First, the characters. I grow tired of how often I have to say this but: there are no characters in ''Sonichu'', not really. I read somewhere that ''Sonichu'' has 136 characters, yet not a single one of them has a personality. They are all a bunch of identical Sonic recolor Mary-Sues, with their leader "Sonichu" being the penultimate Mary-Sue. He is second only to Chris-chan himself, who in the comic possesses all the powers of all his characters (making them obsolete), alongside his own powers, which only grow stronger when he transforms into "Chris-Chan Sonichu" and then again at some point into "Colossus Sonichu" which literally gives him unlimited godlike powers that allow him to warp reality as he sees fit and [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/f/f9/SchuComic10P61.jpg causes the cast to momentarily consider worshiping him as if he was a god]. He declines this offer (well, he writes the story so actually he made that offer to himself) although it seems pretty obvious that he thinks his characters (again, there is a possibility he thinks they are real) <del>should</del> worship him, and only declines because it may be blasphemous. Yes, Chris is very religious despite not understanding the Bible at all, and possibly not fully understanding who Jesus even is. But getting back to the point, the irony in this story is amazing because it actually expects us to root for Chris. In most Mary-Sue comics, the protagonist is impossibly virtuous while the villains are laughably evil. And Chris must think that this is also the case with his own comic (not understanding that even this would be very flawed writing), but in reality the comic shows him going around committing all kinds of atrocities like killing, maiming, and attempting to break up relationships for his own selfish reasons, and the villains seem like heroes trying to stop him.<br />
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[[File:Mach punch.jpg|thumb|250px|right|<center>"''Sonichu <del>punches</del> <b>MACH PUNCHES</b> an old lady''"</center>]]<br />
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The comic is an insane revenge fantasy to end all insane revenge fantasies. What's more, this is all only compounded by the fact it makes no goddamn sense! Chris poorly attempts to present his horrible actions favorably by morphing them into even more horrible ones, and all the while confusing the audience further by hinting, nay, ''screaming'' at them that he is the hero of this story. Mix that with the fact this comic follows no logic and you get something so nonsensical that it makes your eyes cross (time travel arcs and [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Retcon retcons] don't help either) and the result is a mix of unintentionally hilarious and mindbogglingly stupid.<br />
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Going into detail about every kind of flaw this comic's writing has would take two eternities. So instead I give you<br />
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'''<u>ODDGUY'S TOP 15 MOST INSANE MOMENTS IN ''SONICHU''.</u>'''<br />
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'''<u>15. The "Anchuent" Prophesy.</u>'''<br />
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Some of you may wonder where Chris gets his super powers in the comic. Surprisingly, this is actually explained. Unsurprisingly, the explanation is retarded. In the comic he comes across a cave guarded by... some guy... who tells him that he is the chosen one from the <strike>ancient</strike> '''Anchuent''' prophecy foretold by the Cherokee Indians, and gives him his magic Sonichu medallion (that Chris wears in real life... ALL THE TIME!) that allows him to transform into "Chris-Chan Sonichu". But it doesn't end there; Chris' Native American ancestor also gives power to his wife's descendant, who just happens to be some childhood friend of Chris, who has been avoiding him for years after she grew up and he remained at the mental age he was when they met each other in preschool. And finally, he also gives powers to the future relative of his mortal enemy from the opposing Native American clan. Who were the Cherokee's historical rivals? Why, the "Wasabi Clan" of course! And who is their leader's living next of kin? That girl's boyfriend, against whom Chris holds a grudge for letting her sit on his lap in front of him...<br />
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In the comic the girl fights her evil boyfriend and punishes him for hurting Chris' feelings. In reality, she has long ago cut all connections from Chris for being creepy and obsessive about her (probably only because he thought she might eventually sleep with him) and didn't give a shit about his feelings.<br />
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'''<u>14. Wedding Bust.</u>'''<br />
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This saga continued when Chris found out this girl is getting married. He drew a comic in which her old boyfriend crashes the wedding and attempts to kidnap her, but is then defeated by Chris using ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yu-Gi-Oh! Yu-Gi-Ho!]'' cards and returned to her husband, who is inexplicably a ''Yu-Gi-Ho!'' monster.<br />
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In reality, Chris was not invited to the wedding, and the guy who in the comic attempts to kidnap her had long since forgotten about some girl he briefly dated in high school and couldn't care less about her upcoming wedding. The one who didn't forget about her was Chris. The one who couldn't let her go despite her never reciprocating his feelings was Chris. And the one she would have had to have been saved from, had he attended the wedding, is once again Chris.<br />
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'''<u>13. Sweet, Pure Angelica.</u>'''<br />
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One of the comic's endless supply of Sonic recolors is "Angelica". Left at the doorstep of a monastery and raised by nuns, she gets her flying powers directly from God, for which she shows her gratitude by [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/6/65/SchuComic9P32.jpg having sex in the church with a Pokemon.]<br />
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[[File:Thatdirtywhore.jpg|thumb|500px|center|<center>''That dirty whore.''</center>]]<br />
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'''<u>12. The Brown Note.</u>'''<br />
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Chris' arch-nemesis is the polar opposite of himself. Well, actually, for that to be true, he would have to be intelligent, charming and attractive. In actuality he is the antithesis of what Chris ''thinks'' of himself. In other words: An evil gay guy who likes Xbox. And in the same way Chris has his ultimate attack, the "Curse-ye-ha-me-ha", which inflicts its victim with unreasonably bad luck (like causing the mall guard that tossed Chris out to have his wife leave him and take the house and kids), and which Chris has attempted to use on people in real life on several occasions, so does his enemy have an ultimate attack: The "Qee-fee-mea-mo-bo-bo", which unlike the "Curse-ye-ha-me-ha", doesn't delve out bad luck, but rather "humiliation". How does this work? When he attempted to destroy Chris with it, it was deflected back onto him, causing him to poop and piss his pants.<br />
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[[File:Shitsself.jpg|thumb|250px|center|<center>''Yes, make him shit himself. That will stop his army of giant robots.''</center>]]<br />
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'''<u>11. The Return Of "Pattie".</u>'''<br />
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In one of the only displays of honest emotion not motivated by the prospect of personal gain in the comic, and maybe all of Chris' life, Chris revives his recently-deceased dog "Pattie" and sends her off to live in CWCville. Their heartfelt goodbye stops just short of them making out.<br />
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[[File:Pattiekiss.jpg|thumb|250px|center|<center>''JEFF! OH MY GOD!''</center>]]<br />
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'''<u>10. Chris Beats An Elderly Woman And Then Harasses A Handicapped Person... Oops, Wait, That's The Same Lady.</u>'''<br />
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Chris finally confronts his archnemesis, Mary Lee Walsh, in a climactic final battle. During said battle, she explains her motivation for dedicating her life to preventing Chris from getting laid is that she is [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P74.jpg an old, ugly hag who no one could ever love] (remember, this is a real person.) Then Chris and Sonichu beat her, [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P77.jpg paralyze her], and send the 60 year old handicapped woman to a maximum security prison.<br />
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[[File:Storytime.jpg|thumb|500px|center|<center>''Chris is so touched by her heartbreaking story that he <strike>forgives her for all her transgressions against him and lets her go</strike> beats the crap out of her.''</center>]]<br />
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'''<u>9. Sexy Time With Shadow.</u>'''<br />
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An evil, shape-shifting, hermaphrodite Rosechu (the female counterpart of the Sonichu breed) sets out to destroy Chris and co. How does she plan to do this? By transforming into each of the characters' significant others (everyone in "Sonichu" MUST have a girlfriend due to CWC's own fixation on finding one) and sleeping with them for no good reason. But her plan goes awry when she is impersonating Blachu to have gay sex with Bubbles-Rosechu and cannot replicate his electric attack which [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic8P90.jpg he uses on her for her sexual pleasure]... Oh, by the way, according to Chris, this is a children's comic.<br />
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'''<u>8. Chris Takes A Stand For Women's Rights... But Mostly For Himself...</u>'''<br />
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In one particularly insane saga, the characters discover that they are being drawn as either gay or pre-op transgenders on 4Chan. The stupidity escalates when Rosechu posts naked pictures of herself on 4Chan ("4Cents-garbage" as it is named in the comic) to prove she is "all woman" in what has to be the most un-arousing case of fanservice in the history of webcomics, only to have a penis photoshopped onto her on the site. She then goes to confront the the owner of 4Chan. At this point it becomes evident that Chris does not realize that 4Chan and Encyclopedia Dramatica are not the same site, and that the person who wrote the article about him does not own either one. They go to the top of the 4Chan tower (haha... m00t wishes), where Satan himself is an employee, and after [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/3/38/SchuComic8P35.jpg giving a long speech about forgiveness], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic8P30.jpg implying that not trolling Chris is the will of God himself], she takes all her clothes off and beats him unconscious by shoving her vagina in his face.<br />
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[[File:Facerape.jpg|thumb|250px|center|<center>''Yes! Get naked and stick your vagina in his face! That will teach him not to objectify women!''</center>]]<br />
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<u>Bonus Points:</u><br />
* This is all meant to be some kind of stand for women's lib.<br />
* The issue also includes detailed diagrams of the Sonichu reproductive system and explanation of their sexual habits.<br />
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'''<u>7. The End Of 4Chan.org</u>'''<br />
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Chris sets out to destroy the 4Chan tower by rocking out (seriously), which is even more hilarious because he does so with a [http://i.imgur.com/xppsE.jpg "Guitar Hero" Wii-mote]. Two of the main trolls escape, one of whom denounces trolling because he is straight (since trolling and heterosexuality are mutually exclusive), and leaves Clyde Cash and Jack, two of Chris' trolls, to their fate. The two choose to commit suicide rather than face the wrath of Chris (again, I'm serious). So the two hold hands and leap to their death, in a genuinely touching display that ironically could easily be used for advocating gay rights against persecution.<br />
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[[File:Votefordeath.jpg|thumb|350px|center|<center>''I swear, I actually choked up a bit when reading this part.''</center>]]<br />
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<u>Bonus Points:</u><br />
* The building's collapse kills hundreds of innocent people whose only crime was working there. (I'm not speculating; [http://i.imgur.com/KAfze.jpg Chris explains this.])<br />
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'''<u>6. Black Street.</u>'''<br />
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[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_10/Page_71 Sonichu meets a sick, black, homeless, drug-addicted, Jamaican war veteran living in a dumpster on the street.]<br />
[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P72.jpg Sonichu calls the police.]<br />
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'''<u>5. Animal Abuse? Child Abuse? You Decide.</u>'''<br />
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[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic3P8.jpg An egg, carrying yet another Sonic ripoff, lands in a dojo run by an Excel Saga ripoff, and hatches.] The dojo owner's daughter is enraged by the infant's insolence of daring to be born in her father's presence, and challenges the literally seconds-old newborn to a fight. She proceeds to brutally rip off the baby's tail, at which point he evolves into an offensive, Asian racial stereotype version of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knuckles_the_Echidna Knuckles], and uses his spiked fist to punch her into outer space. The dojo owner [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic3P9.jpg rewards him for murdering his daughter by making him his student.]<br />
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'''<u>4. Special School Massacre.</u>'''<br />
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The comic's main villain, an old school dean who once expelled Chris for good reason, is, in the comic, an evil witch who uses a brain-control ray to transform the inhabitants of CWCville into her slaves (read: mall guards). Chris explains to the audience that this ray only works on the [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic4P55.jpg "slow-in-mind"]. Hilarity ensues when you realize this means that whenever Sonichu and friends fight Mary Lee's minions, they are actually beating through wave after wave of the mentally handicapped.<br />
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[[File:Punchythehero.jpg|thumb|300px|center|<center>''<strike>Knuckles</strike> um, I mean '''Punchy''' CWCville's hero, beating up a group of helpless retards.''</center>]]<br />
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<u>Bonus Points:</u><br />
* Since Chris is autistic, he himself should be susceptible to the ray's power. <br />
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'''<u>3. Alec's Rape Extravaganza!</u>'''<br />
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Christian transforms into his most Mary-Sueist of Mary-Sue versions, and goes off to fight Alec Benson Leary (one of the creators of the [http://asperchu.thecomicseries.com/ "Asperchu"] parody) and save his spoofs of the Sonichu characters from a fate worse than death. I.E: having Asperger's Syndrome (which Chris hates... long story) with which Alec had "infected" them, as if it is some kind of venereal disease. Afterwards he saves an additional 4 ripoff characters of his own making, under the claim that Alec has been keeping them in his basement and raping them (in the case of one of them, to the point of death.)<br />
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'''<u>2. The "Simonchu" Fiasco.</u>'''<br />
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Chris had a lot of fights with trolls, but this is the one I personally found most amusing in its show of irony and hypocrisy on Chris' part.<br />
The story in short is that Chris [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Evan stole a troll fan character], [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Simonla_Rosechu changed its gender], and refused to remove it from the comic. First because denying one of his characters of its girlfriend would be cruel, and then because he "could have come up with it himself" even though he didn't. He continued to refuse until the trolls began to hold CWCpedia hostage (which he still doesn't realize was intended to mock him) at which point he agreed to kill off the character, which he did [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P82.jpg with an exploding toilet.] Only to have it immediately replaced by her identical clone daughter, who then executes her original creator after he is found guilty in a mock trial of not allowing Chris to steal his character and sentenced to death for it. The two week old girl [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P92.jpg drills off his arms and legs, then uses a drill to castrate him, and finally electrocutes him to death] together with her father.<br />
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<u>Bonus points:</u><br />
* He is also found guilty of trying to assassinate Chris by dropping a massive, hanging TV screen Chris was using to broadcast a speech. He aimed to do this by hanging off the ceiling ''"Mission Impossible"'' style, and [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P80.jpg cutting the steel chains with a pair of household scissors.]<br />
* The chapter alternates in between the troll's unfair trial and Chris' mayoral speech in which he apologizes to them for his own wrongdoings. So we get to see Chris telling this person he is sorry for stealing his character, while he is simultaneously executing him for it.<br />
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{| style="margin: 1em auto 1em auto; color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|+<b>The "Simonchu" Saga In A Nutshell.</b><br />
|-<br />
|<center>'''Evan's brilliant plan'''</center><br />
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|<center>[[File:Evans plan.jpg|center]]</center><br />
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|<center>'''The plaintiff's initials being inscribed on the judge's stand is always a good sign you are about to have a fair trial'''</center><br />
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|[[File:Cwc judge.jpg|center]]<br />
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|<center>'''GUILTY X4!!!!'''</center><br />
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|[[File:Guilty 4x.jpg|center]]<br />
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|<center>'''All good reasons to kill a bunch of guys'''</center><br />
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|[[File:Reasons to kill.jpg|center]]<br />
|-<br />
|<center>'''THE END'''</center><br />
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'''<u>1. I AM NOT HOMOPHOBIC!!! NOW WATCH ME KILL ALL THESE GAY PEOPLE!!!</u>'''<br />
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Chris travels to the future to find out that his blood is the cure for homosexuality (stop laughing, there's more). He fight his nemesis, who is the opposite of himself, and therefore ultra-super-gay and also evil, and injects him with his blood, <strike>giving him AIDS<strike> curing him of gayness. Then he floods the world's water supply with <strike>the cure<strike> his blood and rids the world of homos.<br />
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<u>Bonus points:</u><br />
* He cures gays in the present with a cure he got from the future, thereby destroying the thing for which the cure was created before it was made and creating a time paradox.<br />
* He somehow fills 50 Mack trucks with his own blood.<br />
* Despite curing all the homos (and asexuals, who he also hates for some reason) in a later chapter gays still exists and are being monitored by Chris and thrown in jail for being gay.<br />
* Since a vaccine is made out of a weakened or dead version of the virus, for Chris' blood to be the cure for gayness he would have to be the most gay person to have ever lived.<br />
* The comic ends with CWC commemorating his victory over trolls and gays (who are one and the same) by creating a new holiday: "Christian Love Day". Which ironically celebrates mass murder and genocide.<br />
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==Author Biography== <br />
[[File:sooo_offended.jpg|thumb|400px|center|<center>''Chris' reaction to anything written about him on the internet.''</center>]]<br />
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What can I say about Chris Chan that has not already been said about terminal cancer? Well, for one thing, be it by miraculous recovery or the sweet release of death, the misery caused by cancer ends at some point. Whereas Christian's antics seem like they intend to continue for the rest of eternity. In October 2011 he was arrested for [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/28_October_2011 his second attempt at vehicular homicide] [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Michael_Snyder against a video game shop owner who had banned him from the store three years beforehand, and who he (wrongly) believes is Jewish.] In February 2012 he lost his virginity at the age of 30 after years of stalking and sexually harassing girls at the local mall (I have been told by a credible source that this was done with the help of a prostitute.) His behavior is so demented that things he has done that would have made any normal person a laughingstock for the rest of his life almost flew under the radar when he did it. "Encyclopedia Dramatica" spent years documenting his antics until they finally just gave up. His exploits also include [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Twin_Falling_Towers denigrating the memory of 9/11 to mock a troll], [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Blackface shooting a youtube video in blackface,] [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Fanta#Fanta:_Semen_Flavor drinking his own semen], cheating at a contest intended for children, racism, misogyny, anti-Semitism, death threats, homophobia, crossdressing, sexual harassment, attempt at murder, and the list goes on and on (excuse me but I just can't add links anymore). At the moment he holds the place for second most hated webcomic artist ever, second only to Buckley, because everyone knows he has autism, whereas with Buckley, we can only assume.<br />
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This brings me to the main part of this section: His autism.<br />
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Many people think that all criticism of Christian is cruel due to his condition, and in part I agree. But it's important to remember he has mild autism. Leaked medical documents say that there isn't really that much wrong with him... Or at least there shouldn't be. So how do I explain all of this? Well, people often forget that those inflicted with these kinds of conditions are not identical clones that step off a factory conveyor belt. They each have their own personalities, and Christian's is the worst. His parents aren't helpful in that aspect, either. Let me put it this way: Have you ever seen the movie ''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117666/ "Sling Blade"]''? Well, you should have. Do you remember the scene where Walter tells the psychiatrist how his parents kept him in the shed because "they didn't want him in the house with the rest of 'em"? This is sort of the same. Once they understood their child has autism, Bob and Barbara Chandler abandoned all expectations of him and resolved to just buy him whatever he wants and do whatever he wants as long as it will keep him out of their hair and thereby turning him into the selfish, ego-driven manchild that he is today. What I'm saying is this: People with autism can live normal lives. They can get jobs, get married, have kids. I am not saying it's easy, but with dedication and attention from the people around them, they can grow to be contributing members of society. Other autistics HATE Chris-chan. Many have made videos begging people not to get the wrong idea about them because of what Chris does. I honestly believe that had he not been born that way he may not have been so susceptible to being fooled by trolls or so quick to humiliate himself, but he would have still been the same awful person.<br />
<br />
I feel sorry for Chris. I understand he can't control part of what he does, but that can't be his excuse for everything.<br />
<br />
==Conclusion==<br />
<br />
Do not read this comic.<br />
<br />
Unless you are doing it purely for the spectacle of it you have nothing to gain from it. In any other comic, I would tell people to check it out only so you could learn what mistakes you should avoid. But in this case there is no point. There is not a single mistake here that you could not sidestep by using the most basic of common sense. What could you possibly learn from this? Don't draw yourself murdering people you dislike with super powers? Don't upload drawings of yourself having sex with a girl you are romantically pursuing onto troll sites? Don't use your real name when buying anal beads online? I think you can all figure these things on your own.<br />
<br />
This comic tops the chart in every criteria this website uses to gauge the value of its review subjects. The worst art, most awful writing, most insane plot, biggest Mary-Sue characters ever, craziest and most insufferable author...<br />
<br />
In short:<br />
This truly is the worst comic ever made. Yes, even worse than [[Billy the Heretic]], atrocious as ''that'' was.<br />
<br />
==Massive Chris-Chan Link Dump:==<br />
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[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu_Comic_Collection Archive Of The Comic Itself.]<br />
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[["Sonichu Finale" Interview|Our Interview with Sonichu Finale's artist Harry Manzinni.]]<br />
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Chris has about a million other, dead accounts on every website imaginable. I will not be adding links to them here. Find them on your own.<br />
<br />
'''<u>Articles.</u>'''<br />
<br />
* [http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sonichu Know Your Meme "Sonichu" Article.]<br />
* [http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/chris-chancwcchristian-weston-chandler Know Your Meme "Chris-Chan" Article.]<br />
* [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Webcomic/Sonichu?from=Main.Sonichu TV Tropes "Sonichu" Article.]<br />
* [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/CreatorBreakdown/Webcomics Mentioned in TV Tropes article about webcomic artists who had a massive meltdown.]<br />
* [http://ohinternet.com/Chris-chan Ohi Article on "Chris-Chan".]<br />
* [http://ohinternet.com/Sonichu Ohi Article On "Sonichu".]<br />
* [http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Christian_Weston_Chandler Uncyclopedia CWC article.]<br />
* [http://www.cracked.com/funny-3956-chris-chan/ Cracked Chris-chan article.]<br />
* [http://heavy.com/comedy/2010/07/the-20-worst-internet-losers/4/ Chris ranks #1 in article of top 20 internet losers.]<br />
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'''<u>Parodies.</u>'''<br />
<br />
* [http://asperchu.thecomicseries.com/ "Asperchu".] - Ironically, this is actually one of the best comics I have read.<br />
* [http://hcandersen.deviantart.com/ "Sonichu Unleashed".] - A few of the creators of "Asperchu" are trying to get to comic going again.<br />
* [http://gabmonteiro9389.deviantart.com/gallery/24330410 "Sonichu Remake".] - An actually GOOD artists redraws "Sonichu".<br />
* [http://sonichufinale.canalblog.com/ "Sonichu: Finally".] - Yet another parody. The rest of it is [http://harrymanzinni.deviantart.com/gallery/ here].<br />
:: We also have [["Sonichu Finale" Interview|an interview with the artist]].<br />
* [http://depositfiles.com/files/k59r18li3 "Moon Pals".] - Thought to have been lost but one of us found a downloadable archive.<br />
* [http://web.archive.org/web/20091212082041/http://sonichuisgay.thecomicseries.com/comics/1/ An archived version of "Sonichu is Gay".] - A spin-off of asperchu.<br />
* [http://web.archive.org/web/20090923011746/http://sonichu.thecomicseries.com/ An archived version of "Sonichu is Dead".] - Another spin-off of asperchu.<br />
* [http://imgur.com/fWC2lw3,1B7ulIl,GIIC5w1,eu84mkL,5eeYSx1,aNUzCR8,7eoGNbq,53ilnRW,i6xiNk6,3FirXzm,lrcSkRr,oQHqVSK,CYo0pA6,3ZTtGWC Temporarily here]<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPeAkOtu2Oo A video of the seven strips of "Capering Berries".] - A parody mocking the Simonchu fiasco.<br />
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<s>All other parody works are not worth mentioning. I was also able to contact the creator of "Simonchu". He did not want to comment, but he did say that he did not keep any copies of it or "Moon Pals" (another parody) and doesn't know if anyone has.</s><br />
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'''<u>More Funny Pictures From The Comic I Couldn't Figure Out How To Work Into The Review.</u>'''<br />
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* [http://i.imgur.com/zBtl8.jpg Sonichu is Chris' only friend.] - )':<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/DQqHb.jpg I don't know why.] - But this is just hilarious to me.<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/lsxjt.jpg This just looks like he's throwing urine at some guy.]<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/HszYC.jpg Almost twincest.] - So this is where Naylor got this from...<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/lir2r.jpg Chris transforms into hideous mutant.] - Or at least more so than usual...<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/pCYdw.jpg Ignore all the hilariously ironic text.] - And focus instead on the fact that Rosechu is eating a wrench.<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/iUMEV.jpg Porno?] - Rosechu says: [http://lovablelabelsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/fonz1.jpg "AYEEE!!!"]<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/FQ1ta.jpg 1] [http://i.imgur.com/x6nEM.jpg 2],[http://i.imgur.com/DPvkz.jpg 3],[http://i.imgur.com/zbH3v.jpg 4],[http://i.imgur.com/GxexT.jpg 5] - Pictures where Chris equates either himself or Sonichu to god, or implies that fulfilling his desires is the lords will.<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/mZkHy.jpg 1],[http://i.imgur.com/13oQU.jpg 2] - Pictures where Chris implies that fulfilling his will is the American way... So strange how often those things seem to coincide.<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/O5uJo.jpg 1],[http://i.imgur.com/1f0UQ.jpg 2],[http://i.imgur.com/ipxai.jpg 3] - Sonichu's anti gay hate speeches and [http://i.imgur.com/MRjqO.jpg apology]. Followed by Chris exterminating all homosexuals.<br />
<br />
'''<u>Other.</u>'''<br />
<br />
* [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Main_Page "CWCki".] - A wiki about Chris.<br />
* [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Main_Page Archived Version Of "CWCpedia".] - The other wiki about Chris.<br />
* [http://web.archive.org/web/20100330094633/http://www.hsienko.com/asperchu/index.php?title=Main_Page Asperpedia.] - Can only be seen using Web Archive anymore.<br />
* [http://annotatedsonichu.tumblr.com/ "Sonichu" Mock Tumblr.]<br />
* [http://fuckwhychrischan.tumblr.com/ Other "Sonichu" Tumblr.]<br />
* [http://twitter.com/Sonichu1 "Sonichu" twitter.]<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/user/CWCAnimatedLibrary "Sonichu" - The Animated Series.]<br />
* <strike>"Sonichu" Audiobooks. Deleted days before I finished this review.</strike> [http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL12A55E9C82971031&feature=plcp&fb_source=message Someone made a backup!]<br />
* [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/A_Girl_Who_Brought_Down_the_World#The_original_text "A Girl Who Brought Down The World".] - An entire book made by the same person who made the audiobooks and sent to Chris. He never read it, gave it to his minister for Christmas, asked the girl who made it to pay the mailing fees, and finally sent her YouTube death threats.<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsDdXHQbXsc Webcomic Relief on YouTube] also has a review of ''Sonichu''.<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdGujEC2Xx8 Webcomic Relief on YouTube] has more to say about it.<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQEs2BcbcM And more...]<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8v1J8ZZf_w and more...]<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkCpdU3EYe4 and more...]<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlMlL9zXwag and more...]<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxTaIO1PINw and more...]<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23qcd14SpT8 and more...but I think I'll stop it here.]<br />
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{{WComic Infobox<br />
|review author = {{oddguy}}<br />
|webcomic name = [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu+Comic+Collection Sonichu]<br />
|author = [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcville/ Christian Weston "Ricardo" Chandler], AKA "Chris-chan", AKA "C.W.C"<br />
|start date = November 24, 2004, was the date he began drawing the cover of issue 0, although it's unclear when he actually began drawing "Sonichu" comics. Probably sometime in High School.<br />
|end date = On hiatus since May 27, 2010, due to trolls ruining his "inspiration", or possibly because making the comic is too much work (he is unemployed and drawing a page takes him an hour).<br />
|genre = "Adventure"<br />
|flaw = Literally everything<br />
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'''Rating Summary'''<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable" style="width:600px"><br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Art:'''<br />
|[[File:Sonichu-art-review.jpg|100px]]<br>They say autistic people are supposed to be artistically inclined, but I see no evidence of that here. I could draw better than this in the fourth grade, if not sooner.<br />
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|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:Sonichu-storyline-review.jpg|100px]]<br>Most insane crap you will ever read. And yet, not even remotely entertaining.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Characters:'''<br />
|[[File:Sonichu-characters-review.png|100px]]<br>All the heroes are Mary-Sue Sonic recolors, all the heroines are objects that can talk and only exist to serve as someone's love interest. All the villains are demonized versions of people the creator knows in real life with their actual motivations replaced with: "they hate autistic people and want to stop Chris from finding love".<br />
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|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Sonichu-misc-details-review.jpg|100px]]<br>I wouldn't even know where to start.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Hurtsoul.jpg|100px]]<br>Never in your life will you find something quite as bad and deranged as this. You have my guarantee.<br />
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==Background==<br />
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[[File:Sonichu.jpg|200px|right]]<br />
<br />
Take [[Ctrl+Alt+Del|Tim Buckley's]] attitude, [[So..._You%27re_a_Cartoonist?|Tom Preston's]] "commitment" to criticism, [[Pastel Defender Heliotrope|JDR's]] insanity, [[Powerpuff Girls Doujinshi|Bleedman's]] love of plagiarism, [[Better Days|Jay Naylor's]] political views, and [[Jack|Dave Hopkins']] art skills. Now multiply all those things by a million and you will have Christian Weston Chandler's ''The Adventures of Sonichu And Rosechu'', or as it's also known, ''Sonichu''. Without a doubt <u>'''THE WORST WEBCOMIC EVER'''</u>. Now, some of you may be thinking, "oh, that's just your opinion," but I assure you, it is a fact. <br />
<br />
Before I even start, I think a few preemptive clarifications and apologies are in order. Firstly, I regret to admit that this will not be a comprehensive review. This is simply because addressing every single flaw in this comic and every single public spectacle caused by its creator is an insurmountable task. Even adding links for everything that ''is'' mentioned in this article to the corresponding page is a bit too much. At the moment "Chris-chan" has [http://encyclopediadramatica.se/Cwc one of the longest and most convoluted articles ever written on Encyclopedia Dramatica], and there are two entire wikis dedicated to Christian and his comic. The [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Main_Page "CWCki"] contains over 1,300 articles and grows continuously, and the now debunked but still archived [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Main_Page "CWCpedia"] contains an additional 899 articles. There's also a [http://www.youtube.com/user/Asperchu third] [http://web.archive.org/web/20100330094633/http://www.hsienko.com/asperchu/index.php?title=Main_Page (now deleted)] wiki that dealt solely with [http://asperchu.thecomicseries.com/ Asperchu] and the other numerous ''Sonichu'' parodies that once ran rampant and flooded the net and had another 620 articles. Simply listing everything there is to say about the comic and the man who made it without even going into detail about it would '''still''' result in an article at least twice as long as anything else on BWW. So, I would just like to apologize that, unlike other reviews where we attempt to address everything, with ''Sonichu'', I humbly admit that this can not be done. It is impossible to keep up with everything CWC does, let alone catalog it all in a single page. <br />
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My second apology is that, as you can tell from this intro, this review will run a bit long (and it will be picture-heavy because this stuff is just too funny). Like I explained, although I can never mention everything there is to say about this topic, there is still '''A LOT''' to discuss. I will try to shorten it as much as I can, but this comic deserves a review as long as it gets. And the last thing I would like to say I am sorry for is the untimely fashion in which this review has been presented. A ''Sonichu'' review is '''LONG''' overdue. This thing is the worst webcomic in history. It may be the worst piece of art ever made. It goes beyond having no value or merit to the point that it actually does damage to its readers. Reading this thing may very well make you dumber. I regret a review for it was not made sooner when the comic was more relevant. Its thread has been laying dormant since 2009, and even though I know Chris no longer makes as much of a scene when he is insulted online, I still write this review with an almost perverse glee at the thought that he may discover this review and blow yet another shit fit over it.<br />
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So buckle up, get your puke bucket, and get ready to enter the magical world of ''Sonichu''.<br />
<br />
==Why even review this?==<br />
<br />
[[File:Sonichumedallion.jpg|thumb|200px|left]]<br />
<br />
When this comic was brought up on the BWW forums, one of the questions that arose was, "why bother?" This comic is widely regarded as the worst comic ever made. Everything there is to say about it has already been said. All of its flaws are apparent at first glance, so there is really nothing to review. Furthermore, its creator is autistic, so there's no reason to think any criticism will inspire him to improve, and indeed, it hasn't. So why bother even writing a review for something everyone already knows is bad?<br />
<br />
Except for the last point that I will address later in the "Author Biography" section, I would like to explain why I still went ahead and made a review for this thing.<br />
<br />
It's simple: Because no one has ever reviewed this comic. Everything to say about this comic has been said. However, despite it being the most infamously bad webcomic ever to reach the internet, no noteworthy webcomic review site has ever written an article about it. As a person who chooses to document this part of internet culture, and I am speaking not only for the people who write articles for this website, but anyone who has picked up the gauntlet of webcomic reviews (bad or otherwise), and attempt to fill the void left by John Solomon. It is remiss of us to overlook this comic. Everyone and their dog has already said their piece regarding Chris-chan, yet we, the ones who should have been first to approach this, have ignored this literally for years. Us overlooking ''Sonichu'' would be like a chef refusing to use salt. Not having it reviewed on this website is like composing a list of history's greatest thinkers and leaving out Einstein.<br />
<br />
So I know that I am stating the obvious. I know that I am scratching the bottom of the barrel. I know that there's no need to tell anyone this comic is bad. Still, it needs to have an article on this website. Not because I need to convince anyone that it's bad, but simply because it needs an article.<br />
<br />
==Downfall== <br />
<br />
I would like to simply say that this comic was bad from the very beginning, and there is no comic for which this is more true, but that would be taking the easy way out. To be more precise, there are two instances where the comic's quality takes a nose dive like a drunk Olympic swimmer flying a malfunctioning airplane with one wing missing.<br />
<br />
The first comes around [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_2/Page_1 issue two, episode seven], where the focus shifts from the comic's titular character "Sonichu" to Chris-Chan's Mary-Sue self-insert. From then on, the comic becomes a series of deranged payback stories about people who Christian thinks wronged him (most of whom were just doing their jobs), and desperate pleas for sex by way of ham-handed and obvious additions of girls he was interested in (70% trolls, 30% girls who found him repulsive) into the comic. Not to say that those things are not what the comic has always been about, but once the camera swayed away from Sonichu and onto Chris, it became more and more obscene and self-indulgent.<br />
<br />
The second part where the comic cranks the crazy up to 11 is near the end. As the comic was winding down to its inevitable demise, Chris began to become more and more unhinged as a result of constant trolling, and around [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_10/Page_2 issue ten], it descended into full-on lunacy. The last two chapters focused almost exclusively on Chandler's epic journey where he brutally murders all his tormentors [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/thumb/3/3a/SchuComic10P35.jpg/512px-SchuComic10P35.jpg alongside countless innocent civilians]. Most of the last few chapters read like a poorly drawn propaganda pamphlet advocating an anti-gay genocide, as well as a semi-separate one for internet trolls. I say "semi-separate" because, in Chris' mind, all trolls are homosexuals and, therefore, evil (I'm not making this up).<br />
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In other words, this comic begins at a lower starting point than any other and continues to deteriorate in congruence with its author's mental health.<br />
<br />
==Story and Plot==<br />
<br />
[[File:RainbowChris.jpg|thumb|250px|right]]<br />
<br />
This story is the most deranged thing you will ever read. The most amazing thing about it is that there actually is any plot at all. Of course, it does not make a single bit of sense and has so many plot holes that you could paint it yellow and call it SpongeBob, but the fact that there is actually some kind of continuity between chapters is a shock in itself that I could barely recover from. There's some kind of prophecy, people trying to get their hands on <strike>Sonichu's balls<strike> the "Sonichu Balls", some characters disappear and cannot rejoin the plot until they are saved from wherever they are stuck, and everything winds down to a "climactic" final battle where Chris and Sonichu finally get the balls, evolve into their ultimate forms, and go fight all their enemies that have joined into one group to destroy CWCville. The fact Chris is able to remember plot points from past episodes is something I ''still'' can't get over.<br />
<br />
Here is a short summary of as of the story that was relevant to the plot and did not veer off into a psychotic tangent:<br />
<br />
"Sonichu" is about a fictional city (whether Chris realizes this place is not real is actually still up for debate) called CWCville (pronounced "Quickville" somehow...) and founded by Chris-chan's father (who named it after his son who he had not yet conceived) where Chris is the mayor (because that position is handed from father to son with no need for an election). When Sonic the Hedgehog fights a monster on the outskirts of town, he crashes into a Pikachu and it becomes a totally new and "original" character called "Sonichu". This also somehow makes Chris his father. The crash also creates a magical rainbow that sends out eggs all over Virginia, the moon, and the past for some reason, that hatch more <strike>Sonic recolors</strike> original characters.<br />
<br />
That is the set up. The plot is more about Chris himself. It follows his romantic misadventures with girls he knows in real life but whom are only interested in him in the comic and avoid him in real life, and his dealing with pretty much anyone who has ever caused him any kind of perceived injustice. This includes a shop owner who banned him from his store for harassing black children and pretending they stole from him, security guards who threw him out of a number of shops and malls for soliciting sex and harassing young girls, an old school dean who kicked him out of school for soliciting sex, ALL MEN EVER for making it hard for him to find a girlfriend, internet trolls, all homosexuals, all asexuals, and anyone else he finds guilty for his own misfortune and mistakes. In the comic, his actions are portrayed in a far more heroic manner. In ''Sonichu'', all these people are after Chris because they don't want him to lose his virginity, or just hate autistics, and all have magical super powers, as does Chris. Every conflict devolves into a massive superhero fight in which Chris wins and deals out disproportionately cruel punishments to anyone who stands in his way. You know, the way he never could in real life.<br />
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The setting of "CWCvile" is even more ridiculous. [http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sonichu Know Your Meme] describes it as a totalitarian communist state, while [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Webcomic/Sonichu?from=Main.Sonichu TV Tropes] says it's more along the lines of an Orwellian nightmare. I interpret it as a crumbling pseudo-religious dictatorship. If you look, you will see that all the elements are there: a megalomaniacal leader that has inherited his power from his father and has passed on all his administrative duties to his employees (his secretary in the comic does all the work), set up his office at the top of the mall which he cannot enter due to rebel forces (he literally can't get into his own office in his own comic), and is backed by his squad of super powered goons who are, by his decree, above the law and may slaughter all his opponents. There is only one [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/KCWC government-sponsored radio station] that plays 24/7 pro-Chris propaganda, all of Chris' opposition are demonized in the press, and in the comic itself, and are either killed or executed after mock trials. All citizens are constantly monitored by the secret police [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Magi-Chan (Magi-Chan)] in all aspects, including sexual activity (gay sex is not allowed in CWCville), and all tobacco and alcohol is forbidden.<br />
<br />
All of this is just the beginning. I wrote three paragraphs without even getting into any of the actual plot points. Like Chris' search for a "boyfriend-free girl", [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/0/01/SchuComic10P09.jpg God and Jesus (or "GodJesus" as Chris once called them) descending from the heavens to tell some girl Chris hardly knew she should be his girlfriend], [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Crystal_Weston_Chandler_%28sister%29 Chris making himself an imaginary twin sister], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_2/Page_2 CHRIS GETTING MAGICAL SONICHU SUPER POWERS FROM HIS NATIVE AMERICAN ANCESTORS], etc.<br />
<br />
You want more crazy shit? Read the comic. Or don't.<br />
<br />
... Yeah, don't.<br />
<br />
==Art review==<br />
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[[File:GoKickHisAss.jpg|thumb|500px|center]]<br />
<br />
The art looks like Chris drew it without using his hands. He was once quoted saying that it takes him an hour to make one page, and he uses pencils, sharpies, and crayons. In a normal comic, I would have to pick and choose what is the best panel to use for me to showcase the flaws in the art, but in this one, I don't even know where to start. I am just going to pick a page at random.<br />
<br />
Let's see... issue 9, page 82...<br />
<br />
[[File:SchuComic9P81.jpg|thumb|400px|center|<center>Oh my! It's a doozy!</center>]]<br />
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In this one, the guy in the upper left corner is [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Liquid Ian Brandon Anderson], which in real life was the name trolls called the real Chris when someone else impersonated him for a while, despite not looking anything like him. This was still more than enough to make Chris rage. In the comic, Ian has just been murdered by Sonichu, and is being taken to Hell by devil trolls as punishment for not being nice to Chris, after which Sonichu is confronted by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Eggman Dr. Ivo Robotnik], [http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/Giovanni Giovanni from Pokémon], and his son, who are holding Rosechu hostage with the help of a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decepticon Decepticon].<br />
<br />
[[File:best_mall.jpg|thumb|350px|right|<center>''BEST FUCKING MALL '''EVER!!!!'''''</center>]]<br />
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But enough about what's going on and onto the art. What is there to say? You have eyes, don't you? You see it. None of the characters look like who they are supposed to be, nothing is consistent, the background has a habit of disappearing without explanation (as well as characters' entire bodies whenever Chris gets too lazy, leaving them with nothing but a floating head), and Eggman's nose looks like a penis. The art fits the story like a shit encrusted glove. If you pay attention, you will also notice that "Rosechu" is a dead ringer for Amy Rose. [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/7/72/E1p35.jpg At one point in the comic, they meet and it is impossible to tell who is who.]<br />
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Oh, and did you know that Chris also has a degree in [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/CADD "Computer-Aided Drafting and Design"]? What have you done with ''your'' life?! But spending six years getting this degree (it was a two year course) still did not seem to help him at all. Not even a fully sentient super computer from the future like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_9000 HAL 9000] could help Chris with his drafting and design. Even more hilariously, whenever someone makes a parody of his comic, he criticizes it on the quality of its art, claiming it is not as good as his.<br />
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==Writing review== <br />
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[[File:Thw world.jpg|thumb|250px|left|<center>"''Go Magi! Go out into '''thw''' world!''"</center>]]<br />
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There is a typo on the very first page. "Our story begins in a open field five '''''mies''''' from the city of Station Square" and all text is written in ALL CAPS Comic Sans. That's not enough? I think that says it all. <br />
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Fine. Read on. <br />
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First, the characters. I grow tired of how often I have to say this but: there are no characters in ''Sonichu'', not really. I read somewhere that ''Sonichu'' has 136 characters, yet not a single one of them has a personality. They are all a bunch of identical Sonic recolor Mary-Sues, with their leader "Sonichu" being the penultimate Mary-Sue. He is second only to Chris-chan himself, who in the comic possesses all the powers of all his characters (making them obsolete), alongside his own powers, which only grow stronger when he transforms into "Chris-Chan Sonichu" and then again at some point into "Colossus Sonichu" which literally gives him unlimited godlike powers that allow him to warp reality as he sees fit and [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/f/f9/SchuComic10P61.jpg causes the cast to momentarily consider worshiping him as if he was a god]. He declines this offer (well, he writes the story so actually he made that offer to himself) although it seems pretty obvious that he thinks his characters (again, there is a possibility he thinks they are real) <del>should</del> worship him, and only declines because it may be blasphemous. Yes, Chris is very religious despite not understanding the Bible at all, and possibly not fully understanding who Jesus even is. But getting back to the point, the irony in this story is amazing because it actually expects us to root for Chris. In most Mary-Sue comics, the protagonist is impossibly virtuous while the villains are laughably evil. And Chris must think that this is also the case with his own comic (not understanding that even this would be very flawed writing), but in reality the comic shows him going around committing all kinds of atrocities like killing, maiming, and attempting to break up relationships for his own selfish reasons, and the villains seem like heroes trying to stop him.<br />
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[[File:Mach punch.jpg|thumb|250px|right|<center>"''Sonichu <del>punches</del> <b>MACH PUNCHES</b> an old lady''"</center>]]<br />
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The comic is an insane revenge fantasy to end all insane revenge fantasies. What's more, this is all only compounded by the fact it makes no goddamn sense! Chris poorly attempts to present his horrible actions favorably by morphing them into even more horrible ones, and all the while confusing the audience further by hinting, nay, ''screaming'' at them that he is the hero of this story. Mix that with the fact this comic follows no logic and you get something so nonsensical that it makes your eyes cross (time travel arcs and [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Retcon retcons] don't help either) and the result is a mix of unintentionally hilarious and mindbogglingly stupid.<br />
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Going into detail about every kind of flaw this comic's writing has would take two eternities. So instead I give you<br />
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'''<u>ODDGUY'S TOP 15 MOST INSANE MOMENTS IN ''SONICHU''.</u>'''<br />
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'''<u>15. The "Anchuent" Prophesy.</u>'''<br />
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Some of you may wonder where Chris gets his super powers in the comic. Surprisingly, this is actually explained. Unsurprisingly, the explanation is retarded. In the comic he comes across a cave guarded by... some guy... who tells him that he is the chosen one from the <strike>ancient</strike> '''Anchuent''' prophecy foretold by the Cherokee Indians, and gives him his magic Sonichu medallion (that Chris wears in real life... ALL THE TIME!) that allows him to transform into "Chris-Chan Sonichu". But it doesn't end there; Chris' Native American ancestor also gives power to his wife's descendant, who just happens to be some childhood friend of Chris, who has been avoiding him for years after she grew up and he remained at the mental age he was when they met each other in preschool. And finally, he also gives powers to the future relative of his mortal enemy from the opposing Native American clan. Who were the Cherokee's historical rivals? Why, the "Wasabi Clan" of course! And who is their leader's living next of kin? That girl's boyfriend, against whom Chris holds a grudge for letting her sit on his lap in front of him...<br />
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In the comic the girl fights her evil boyfriend and punishes him for hurting Chris' feelings. In reality, she has long ago cut all connections from Chris for being creepy and obsessive about her (probably only because he thought she might eventually sleep with him) and didn't give a shit about his feelings.<br />
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'''<u>14. Wedding Bust.</u>'''<br />
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This saga continued when Chris found out this girl is getting married. He drew a comic in which her old boyfriend crashes the wedding and attempts to kidnap her, but is then defeated by Chris using ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yu-Gi-Oh! Yu-Gi-Oh!]'' cards and returned to her husband, who is inexplicably a ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' monster.<br />
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In reality, Chris was not invited to the wedding, and the guy who in the comic attempts to kidnap her had long since forgotten about some girl he briefly dated in high school and couldn't care less about her upcoming wedding. The one who didn't forget about her was Chris. The one who couldn't let her go despite her never reciprocating his feelings was Chris. And the one she would have had to have been saved from, had he attended the wedding, is once again Chris.<br />
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'''<u>13. Sweet, Pure Angelica.</u>'''<br />
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One of the comic's endless supply of Sonic recolors is "Angelica". Left at the doorstep of a monastery and raised by nuns, she gets her flying powers directly from God, for which she shows her gratitude by [http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/6/65/SchuComic9P32.jpg having sex in the church with a Pokemon.]<br />
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[[File:Thatdirtywhore.jpg|thumb|500px|center|<center>''That dirty whore.''</center>]]<br />
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'''<u>12. The Brown Note.</u>'''<br />
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Chris' arch-nemesis is the polar opposite of himself. Well, actually, for that to be true, he would have to be intelligent, charming and attractive. In actuality he is the antithesis of what Chris ''thinks'' of himself. In other words: An evil gay guy who likes Xbox. And in the same way Chris has his ultimate attack, the "Curse-ye-ha-me-ha", which inflicts its victim with unreasonably bad luck (like causing the mall guard that tossed Chris out to have his wife leave him and take the house and kids), and which Chris has attempted to use on people in real life on several occasions, so does his enemy have an ultimate attack: The "Qee-fee-mea-mo-bo-bo", which unlike the "Curse-ye-ha-me-ha", doesn't delve out bad luck, but rather "humiliation". How does this work? When he attempted to destroy Chris with it, it was deflected back onto him, causing him to poop and piss his pants.<br />
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[[File:Shitsself.jpg|thumb|250px|center|<center>''Yes, make him shit himself. That will stop his army of giant robots.''</center>]]<br />
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'''<u>11. The Return Of "Pattie".</u>'''<br />
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In one of the only displays of honest emotion not motivated by the prospect of personal gain in the comic, and maybe all of Chris' life, Chris revives his recently-deceased dog "Pattie" and sends her off to live in CWCville. Their heartfelt goodbye stops just short of them making out.<br />
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[[File:Pattiekiss.jpg|thumb|250px|center|<center>''[http://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/1/11/Rainedogsex.jpg JEFF! OH MY GOD!]''</center>]]<br />
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'''<u>10. Chris Beats An Elderly Woman And Then Harasses A Handicapped Person... Oops, Wait, That's The Same Lady.</u>'''<br />
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Chris finally confronts his archnemesis, Mary Lee Walsh, in a climactic final battle. During said battle, she explains her motivation for dedicating her life to preventing Chris from getting laid is that she is [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P74.jpg an old, ugly hag who no one could ever love] (remember, this is a real person.) Then Chris and Sonichu beat her, [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P77.jpg paralyze her], and send the 60 year old handicapped woman to a maximum security prison.<br />
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[[File:Storytime.jpg|thumb|500px|center|<center>''Chris is so touched by her heartbreaking story that he <strike>forgives her for all her transgressions against him and lets her go</strike> beats the crap out of her.''</center>]]<br />
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'''<u>9. Sexy Time With Shadow.</u>'''<br />
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An evil, shape-shifting, hermaphrodite Rosechu (the female counterpart of the Sonichu breed) sets out to destroy Chris and co. How does she plan to do this? By transforming into each of the characters' significant others (everyone in "Sonichu" MUST have a girlfriend due to CWC's own fixation on finding one) and sleeping with them for no good reason. But her plan goes awry when she is impersonating Blachu to have gay sex with Bubbles-Rosechu and cannot replicate his electric attack which [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic8P90.jpg he uses on her for her sexual pleasure]... Oh, by the way, according to Chris, this is a children's comic.<br />
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'''<u>8. Chris Takes A Stand For Women's Rights... But Mostly For Himself...</u>'''<br />
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In one particularly insane saga, the characters discover that they are being drawn as either gay or pre-op transgenders on 4Chan. The stupidity escalates when Rosechu posts naked pictures of herself on 4Chan ("4Cents-garbage" as it is named in the comic) to prove she is "all woman" in what has to be the most un-arousing case of fanservice in the history of webcomics, only to have a penis photoshopped onto her on the site. She then goes to confront the the owner of 4Chan. At this point it becomes evident that Chris does not realize that 4Chan and Encyclopedia Dramatica are not the same site, and that the person who wrote the article about him does not own either one. They go to the top of the 4Chan tower (haha... m00t wishes), where Satan himself is an employee, and after [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/images/3/38/SchuComic8P35.jpg giving a long speech about forgiveness], [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic8P30.jpg implying that not trolling Chris is the will of God himself], she takes all her clothes off and beats him unconscious by shoving her vagina in his face.<br />
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[[File:Facerape.jpg|thumb|250px|center|<center>''Yes! Get naked and stick your vagina in his face! That will teach him not to objectify women!''</center>]]<br />
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<u>Bonus Points:</u><br />
* This is all meant to be some kind of stand for women's lib.<br />
* The issue also includes detailed diagrams of the Sonichu reproductive system and explanation of their sexual habits.<br />
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'''<u>7. The End Of 4Chan.org</u>'''<br />
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Chris sets out to destroy the 4Chan tower by rocking out (seriously), which is even more hilarious because he does so with a [http://i.imgur.com/xppsE.jpg "Guitar Hero" Wii-mote]. Two of the main trolls escape, one of whom denounces trolling because he is straight (since trolling and heterosexuality are mutually exclusive), and leaves Clyde Cash and Jack, two of Chris' trolls, to their fate. The two choose to commit suicide rather than face the wrath of Chris (again, I'm serious). So the two hold hands and leap to their death, in a genuinely touching display that ironically could easily be used for advocating gay rights against persecution.<br />
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[[File:Votefordeath.jpg|thumb|350px|center|<center>''I swear, I actually choked up a bit when reading this part.''</center>]]<br />
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<u>Bonus Points:</u><br />
* The building's collapse kills hundreds of innocent people whose only crime was working there. (I'm not speculating; [http://i.imgur.com/KAfze.jpg Chris explains this.])<br />
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'''<u>6. Black Street.</u>'''<br />
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[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Issue_10/Page_71 Sonichu meets a sick, black, homeless, drug-addicted, Jamaican war veteran living in a dumpster on the street.]<br />
[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P72.jpg Sonichu calls the police.]<br />
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'''<u>5. Animal Abuse? Child Abuse? You Decide.</u>'''<br />
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[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic3P8.jpg An egg, carrying yet another Sonic ripoff, lands in a dojo run by an Excel Saga ripoff, and hatches.] The dojo owner's daughter is enraged by the infant's insolence of daring to be born in her father's presence, and challenges the literally seconds-old newborn to a fight. She proceeds to brutally rip off the baby's tail, at which point he evolves into an offensive, Asian racial stereotype version of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knuckles_the_Echidna Knuckles], and uses his spiked fist to punch her into outer space. The dojo owner [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic3P9.jpg rewards him for murdering his daughter by making him his student.]<br />
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'''<u>4. Special School Massacre.</u>'''<br />
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The comic's main villain, an old school dean who once expelled Chris for good reason, is, in the comic, an evil witch who uses a brain-control ray to transform the inhabitants of CWCville into her slaves (read: mall guards). Chris explains to the audience that this ray only works on the [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic4P55.jpg "slow-in-mind"]. Hilarity ensues when you realize this means that whenever Sonichu and friends fight Mary Lee's minions, they are actually beating through wave after wave of the mentally handicapped.<br />
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[[File:Punchythehero.jpg|thumb|300px|center|<center>''<strike>Knuckles</strike> um, I mean '''Punchy''' CWCville's hero, beating up a group of helpless retards.''</center>]]<br />
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<u>Bonus Points:</u><br />
* Since Chris is autistic, he himself should be susceptible to the ray's power. <br />
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'''<u>3. Alec's Rape Extravaganza!</u>'''<br />
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Christian transforms into his most Mary-Sueist of Mary-Sue versions, and goes off to fight Alec Benson Leary (one of the creators of the [http://asperchu.thecomicseries.com/ "Asperchu"] parody) and save his spoofs of the Sonichu characters from a fate worse than death. I.E: having Asperger's Syndrome (which Chris hates... long story) with which Alec had "infected" them, as if it is some kind of venereal disease. Afterwards he saves an additional 4 ripoff characters of his own making, under the claim that Alec has been keeping them in his basement and raping them (in the case of one of them, to the point of death.)<br />
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'''<u>2. The "Simonchu" Fiasco.</u>'''<br />
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Chris had a lot of fights with trolls, but this is the one I personally found most amusing in its show of irony and hypocrisy on Chris' part.<br />
The story in short is that Chris [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Evan stole a troll fan character], [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Simonla_Rosechu changed its gender], and refused to remove it from the comic. First because denying one of his characters of its girlfriend would be cruel, and then because he "could have come up with it himself" even though he didn't. He continued to refuse until the trolls began to hold CWCpedia hostage (which he still doesn't realize was intended to mock him) at which point he agreed to kill off the character, which he did [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P82.jpg with an exploding toilet.] Only to have it immediately replaced by her identical clone daughter, who then executes her original creator after he is found guilty in a mock trial of not allowing Chris to steal his character and sentenced to death for it. The two week old girl [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P92.jpg drills off his arms and legs, then uses a drill to castrate him, and finally electrocutes him to death] together with her father.<br />
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<u>Bonus points:</u><br />
* He is also found guilty of trying to assassinate Chris by dropping a massive, hanging TV screen Chris was using to broadcast a speech. He aimed to do this by hanging off the ceiling ''"Mission Impossible"'' style, and [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=File:SchuComic10P80.jpg cutting the steel chains with a pair of household scissors.]<br />
* The chapter alternates in between the troll's unfair trial and Chris' mayoral speech in which he apologizes to them for his own wrongdoings. So we get to see Chris telling this person he is sorry for stealing his character, while he is simultaneously executing him for it.<br />
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{| style="margin: 1em auto 1em auto; color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|+<b>The "Simonchu" Saga In A Nutshell.</b><br />
|-<br />
|<center>'''Evan's brilliant plan'''</center><br />
|-<br />
|<center>[[File:Evans plan.jpg|center]]</center><br />
|-<br />
|<center>'''The plaintiff's initials being inscribed on the judge's stand is always a good sign you are about to have a fair trial'''</center><br />
|-<br />
|[[File:Cwc judge.jpg|center]]<br />
|-<br />
|<center>'''GUILTY X4!!!!'''</center><br />
|-<br />
|[[File:Guilty 4x.jpg|center]]<br />
|-<br />
|<center>'''All good reasons to kill a bunch of guys'''</center><br />
|-<br />
|[[File:Reasons to kill.jpg|center]]<br />
|-<br />
|<center>'''THE END'''</center><br />
|}<br />
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'''<u>1. I AM NOT HOMOPHOBIC!!! NOW WATCH ME KILL ALL THESE GAY PEOPLE!!!</u>'''<br />
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Chris travels to the future to find out that his blood is the cure for homosexuality (stop laughing, there's more). He fight his nemesis, who is the opposite of himself, and therefore ultra-super-gay and also evil, and injects him with his blood, <strike>giving him AIDS<strike> curing him of gayness. Then he floods the world's water supply with <strike>the cure<strike> his blood and rids the world of homos.<br />
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<u>Bonus points:</u><br />
* He cures gays in the present with a cure he got from the future, thereby destroying the thing for which the cure was created before it was made and creating a time paradox.<br />
* He somehow fills 50 Mack trucks with his own blood.<br />
* Despite curing all the homos (and asexuals, who he also hates for some reason) in a later chapter gays still exists and are being monitored by Chris and thrown in jail for being gay.<br />
* Since a vaccine is made out of a weakened or dead version of the virus, for Chris' blood to be the cure for gayness he would have to be the most gay person to have ever lived.<br />
* The comic ends with CWC commemorating his victory over trolls and gays (who are one and the same) by creating a new holiday: "Christian Love Day". Which ironically celebrates mass murder and genocide.<br />
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==Author Biography== <br />
[[File:sooo_offended.jpg|thumb|400px|center|<center>''Chris' reaction to anything written about him on the internet.''</center>]]<br />
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What can I say about Chris Chan that has not already been said about terminal cancer? Well, for one thing, be it by miraculous recovery or the sweet release of death, the misery caused by cancer ends at some point. Whereas Christian's antics seem like they intend to continue for the rest of eternity. In October 2011 he was arrested for [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/28_October_2011 his second attempt at vehicular homicide] [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Michael_Snyder against a video game shop owner who had banned him from the store three years beforehand, and who he (wrongly) believes is Jewish.] In February 2012 he lost his virginity at the age of 30 after years of stalking and sexually harassing girls at the local mall (I have been told by a credible source that this was done with the help of a prostitute.) His behavior is so demented that things he has done that would have made any normal person a laughingstock for the rest of his life almost flew under the radar when he did it. "Encyclopedia Dramatica" spent years documenting his antics until they finally just gave up. His exploits also include [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Twin_Falling_Towers denigrating the memory of 9/11 to mock a troll], [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Blackface shooting a youtube video in blackface,] [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Fanta#Fanta:_Semen_Flavor drinking his own semen], cheating at a contest intended for children, racism, misogyny, anti-Semitism, death threats, homophobia, crossdressing, sexual harassment, attempt at murder, and the list goes on and on (excuse me but I just can't add links anymore). At the moment he holds the place for second most hated webcomic artist ever, second only to Buckley, because everyone knows he has autism, whereas with Buckley, we can only assume.<br />
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This brings me to the main part of this section: His autism.<br />
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Many people think that all criticism of Christian is cruel due to his condition, and in part I agree. But it's important to remember he has mild autism. [http://encyclopediadramatica.se/Chris-Chan/Psychological_Report Leaked medical documents] say that there isn't really that much wrong with him... Or at least there shouldn't be. So how do I explain all of this? Well, people often forget that those inflicted with these kinds of conditions are not identical clones that step off a factory conveyor belt. They each have their own personalities, and Christian's is the worst. His parents aren't helpful in that aspect, either. Let me put it this way: Have you ever seen the movie ''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117666/ "Sling Blade"]''? Well, you should have. Do you remember the scene where Walter tells the psychiatrist how his parents kept him in the shed because "they didn't want him in the house with the rest of 'em"? This is sort of the same. Once they understood their child has autism, Bob and Barbara Chandler abandoned all expectations of him and resolved to just buy him whatever he wants and do whatever he wants as long as it will keep him out of their hair and thereby turning him into the selfish, ego-driven manchild that he is today. What I'm saying is this: People with autism can live normal lives. They can get jobs, get married, have kids. I am not saying it's easy, but with dedication and attention from the people around them, they can grow to be contributing members of society. Other autistics HATE Chris-chan. Many have [http://encyclopediadramatica.se/Cwc#Autistics_Hate_Chris-Chan made videos] begging people not to get the wrong idea about them because of what Chris does. I honestly believe that had he not been born that way he may not have been so susceptible to being fooled by trolls or so quick to humiliate himself, but he would have still been the same awful person.<br />
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I feel sorry for Chris. I understand he can't control part of what he does, but that can't be his excuse for everything.<br />
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==Conclusion==<br />
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Do not read this comic.<br />
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Unless you are doing it purely for the spectacle of it you have nothing to gain from it. In any other comic, I would tell people to check it out only so you could learn what mistakes you should avoid. But in this case there is no point. There is not a single mistake here that you could not sidestep by using the most basic of common sense. What could you possibly learn from this? Don't draw yourself murdering people you dislike with super powers? [http://encyclopediadramatica.se/Cwc#CWC_vs._ED Don't upload drawings of yourself having sex with a girl you are romantically pursuing onto troll sites?] Don't use your real name when buying anal beads online? I think you can all figure these things on your own.<br />
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This comic tops the chart in every criteria this website uses to gauge the value of its review subjects. The worst art, most awful writing, most insane plot, biggest Mary-Sue characters ever, craziest and most insufferable author...<br />
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In short:<br />
This truly is the worst comic ever made. Yes, even worse than [[Billy the Heretic]], atrocious as ''that'' was.<br />
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==Massive Chris-Chan Link Dump:==<br />
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[http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Sonichu_Comic_Collection Archive Of The Comic Itself.]<br />
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[["Sonichu Finale" Interview|Our Interview with Sonichu Finale's artist Harry Manzinni.]]<br />
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Chris has about a million other, dead accounts on every website imaginable. I will not be adding links to them here. Find them on your own.<br />
<br />
'''<u>Articles.</u>'''<br />
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* [http://encyclopediadramatica.se/Chris-chan Encyclopedia Dramatica article.]<br />
* [http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sonichu Know Your Meme "Sonichu" Article.]<br />
* [http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/chris-chancwcchristian-weston-chandler Know Your Meme "Chris-Chan" Article.]<br />
* [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Webcomic/Sonichu?from=Main.Sonichu TV Tropes "Sonichu" Article.]<br />
* [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/CreatorBreakdown/Webcomics Mentioned in TV Tropes article about webcomic artists who had a massive meltdown.]<br />
* [http://ohinternet.com/Chris-chan Ohi Article on "Chris-Chan".]<br />
* [http://ohinternet.com/Sonichu Ohi Article On "Sonichu".]<br />
* [http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Christian_Weston_Chandler Uncyclopedia CWC article.]<br />
* [http://www.cracked.com/funny-3956-chris-chan/ Cracked Chris-chan article.]<br />
* [http://heavy.com/comedy/2010/07/the-20-worst-internet-losers/4/ Chris ranks #1 in article of top 20 internet losers.]<br />
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'''<u>Parodies.</u>'''<br />
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* [http://asperchu.thecomicseries.com/ "Asperchu".] - Ironically, this is actually one of the best comics I have read.<br />
* [http://hcandersen.deviantart.com/ "Sonichu Unleashed".] - A few of the creators of "Asperchu" are trying to get to comic going again.<br />
* [http://gabmonteiro9389.deviantart.com/gallery/24330410 "Sonichu Remake".] - An actually GOOD artists redraws "Sonichu".<br />
* [http://sonichufinale.canalblog.com/ "Sonichu: Finally".] - Yet another parody. The rest of it is [http://harrymanzinni.deviantart.com/gallery/ here].<br />
:: We also have [["Sonichu Finale" Interview|an interview with the artist]].<br />
* [http://depositfiles.com/files/k59r18li3 "Moon Pals".] - Thought to have been lost but one of us found a downloadable archive.<br />
* [http://web.archive.org/web/20091212082041/http://sonichuisgay.thecomicseries.com/comics/1/ An archived version of "Sonichu is Gay".] - A spin-off of asperchu.<br />
* [http://web.archive.org/web/20090923011746/http://sonichu.thecomicseries.com/ An archived version of "Sonichu is Dead".] - Another spin-off of asperchu.<br />
* <s>[http://www.speedyshare.com/nAaRB/ECG-s-Simonchu.zip "Simonchu"] - downloadable archive.</s> [http://imgur.com/fWC2lw3,1B7ulIl,GIIC5w1,eu84mkL,5eeYSx1,aNUzCR8,7eoGNbq,53ilnRW,i6xiNk6,3FirXzm,lrcSkRr,oQHqVSK,CYo0pA6,3ZTtGWC Temporarily here]<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPeAkOtu2Oo A video of the seven strips of "Capering Berries".] - A parody mocking the Simonchu fiasco.<br />
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<s>All other parody works are not worth mentioning. I was also able to contact the creator of "Simonchu". He did not want to comment, but he did say that he did not keep any copies of it or "Moon Pals" (another parody) and doesn't know if anyone has.</s><br />
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'''<u>More Funny Pictures From The Comic I Couldn't Figure Out How To Work Into The Review.</u>'''<br />
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* [http://i.imgur.com/zBtl8.jpg Sonichu is Chris' only friend.] - )':<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/DQqHb.jpg I don't know why.] - But this is just hilarious to me.<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/lsxjt.jpg This just looks like he's throwing urine at some guy.]<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/HszYC.jpg Almost twincest.] - So this is where Naylor got this from...<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/lir2r.jpg Chris transforms into hideous mutant.] - Or at least more so than usual...<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/pCYdw.jpg Ignore all the hilariously ironic text.] - And focus instead on the fact that Rosechu is eating a wrench.<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/iUMEV.jpg Porno?] - Rosechu says: [http://lovablelabelsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/fonz1.jpg "AYEEE!!!"]<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/FQ1ta.jpg 1] [http://i.imgur.com/x6nEM.jpg 2],[http://i.imgur.com/DPvkz.jpg 3],[http://i.imgur.com/zbH3v.jpg 4],[http://i.imgur.com/GxexT.jpg 5] - Pictures where Chris equates either himself or Sonichu to god, or implies that fulfilling his desires is the lords will.<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/mZkHy.jpg 1],[http://i.imgur.com/13oQU.jpg 2] - Pictures where Chris implies that fulfilling his will is the American way... So strange how often those things seem to coincide.<br />
* [http://i.imgur.com/O5uJo.jpg 1],[http://i.imgur.com/1f0UQ.jpg 2],[http://i.imgur.com/ipxai.jpg 3] - Sonichu's anti gay hate speeches and [http://i.imgur.com/MRjqO.jpg apology]. Followed by Chris exterminating all homosexuals.<br />
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'''<u>Other.</u>'''<br />
<br />
* [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Main_Page "CWCki".] - A wiki about Chris.<br />
* [http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcipedia/index.php?title=Main_Page Archived Version Of "CWCpedia".] - The other wiki about Chris.<br />
* [http://web.archive.org/web/20100330094633/http://www.hsienko.com/asperchu/index.php?title=Main_Page Asperpedia.] - Can only be seen using Web Archive anymore.<br />
* [http://annotatedsonichu.tumblr.com/ "Sonichu" Mock Tumblr.]<br />
* [http://fuckwhychrischan.tumblr.com/ Other "Sonichu" Tumblr.]<br />
* [http://twitter.com/Sonichu1 "Sonichu" twitter.]<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/user/CWCAnimatedLibrary "Sonichu" - The Animated Series.]<br />
* <strike>"Sonichu" Audiobooks. Deleted days before I finished this review.</strike> [http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL12A55E9C82971031&feature=plcp&fb_source=message Someone made a backup!]<br />
* [http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/A_Girl_Who_Brought_Down_the_World#The_original_text "A Girl Who Brought Down The World".] - An entire book made by the same person who made the audiobooks and sent to Chris. He never read it, gave it to his minister for Christmas, asked the girl who made it to pay the mailing fees, and finally sent her YouTube death threats.<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsDdXHQbXsc Webcomic Relief on YouTube] also has a review of ''Sonichu''.<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdGujEC2Xx8 Webcomic Relief on YouTube] has more to say about it.<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQEs2BcbcM And more...]<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8v1J8ZZf_w and more...]<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkCpdU3EYe4 and more...]<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlMlL9zXwag and more...]<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxTaIO1PINw and more...]<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23qcd14SpT8 and more...but I think I'll stop it here.]<br />
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[[Category:Webcomics]]</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_Friendly&diff=10769User Friendly2015-01-24T08:12:45Z<p>DentsAndDings: </p>
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<div>{{Douche}}<br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Original review author:'''<br />
|[http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/redex Redex]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Webcomic name:'''<br />
|[http://www.userfriendly.org/ User Friendly]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Author:'''<br />
|[http://www.userfriendly.org/contact/ J.D. "Illiad" Frazer]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Start Date:'''<br />
|November 17, 1997<br />
|-<br />
|'''End Date:'''<br />
|On hiatus as of 2010 with repeats<br />
|-<br />
|'''Genre:'''<br />
|Technology/comedy<br />
|-<br />
|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
|Terrible, lazy, copy/paste art that fails to improve even after 12 YEARS OF SOLID UPDATES; boring and conventional office/gaming humor; an over-inflated ego about what amounts to a steaming pile of laziness and mediocrity.<br />
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'''Rating Summary'''<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable" style="width:600px"><br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Art:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
Awful. Just awful. The art is so bad it makes the GIS backgrounds in later strips look like a true artistic innovation. <br />
|-<br />
|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
There is none. I mean, beyond the boring I.T. jokes.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Characters:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
The characters are uninteresting and unidentifiable from one another at best, and downright absurd and insulting at worst (I'm looking at you, Pitr!)<br />
|-<br />
|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
The comic’s been running steadily and consistently for 12 years. At the very least, that’s dedication.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
After 12 whole years of running, we’re ''still'' stuck with ugly art and unexceptional gag-a-day writing. The comic has not bothered to improve one bit, despite the high-and-mighty opinion “Illiad” seems to have of it. It is the epitome of living off of laziness--it shows no intention to make itself worthy of the money it supposedly earns.<br />
|}<br />
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==Background==<br />
<br />
This comic is pretty much your typical “techno geeks with office jobs” deal, complete with [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980117&mode=classic standard] and [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980102&mode=classic typical] jokes. Unlike most comics that start off being rough and crappy and evolve into something less rough and crappy (or actually ''good'', in some cases), ''User Friendly'' fails this in every sense. It never manages to transcend itself in humor, writing, or art. And, oh God, the art! And to think Illiad wants you to pay for membership!<br />
<br />
The navigation is hell of confusing. It takes FOREVER to find what you’re looking for, making it seem like the pages keep shifting around and the search features (what little there are) are changing the rules every time. There are none of the traditional navigation buttons on the front page, meaning that you only get the options “previous week of cartoons” “cartoon archive” and “random cartoon” (among other irrelevant options). In order to read the strips in any cohesive sense, you have to click on the day for "previous week of cartoons" or you have to access the archives, which at the very least have "previous" and "next" options. Why not just have those in the first place?! This whole system defies logic and intuition! That should have been the first clue of what’s to come. Clearly, the site is designed for the reader who only checks the latest entry (if at all). For the new reader, this plus the sheer archive panic (12 years of solid daily updates!) is enough to scare even the least productive office worker from reading.<br />
<br />
The site design is a mixture of boring white and phlegm yellow—combined with a scritchy black and white drawing style, it’s really hard to distinguish what the focus point of the page is supposed to be. The site is, I guess, a hub for the I.T. working community and all their goings-on (insofar as it relates to ''User Friendly''), but I’m only here for the comic and that’s all of the site design I am interested in. MAKE THE COMIC THE VISUAL PRIORITY, ILLIAD. That is what we’re here for, after all.<br />
<br />
For the purpose of this review, I’ll be focusing on the first year of strips (11/97-12/98) and the last year of strips (05/08-05/09). That’s nowhere near the entirety of the comic, but it’s still several hundred strips of material. This should give at least some idea of how the comic has progressed through the years.<br />
<br />
==Downfall==<br />
<br />
Day one. Most long running comics start off rough, and UF is no exception. The difference is that UF never bothers to improve. Arguably, it gets worse as Illiad relies more on copy/pasting and GIS backgrounds to carry the visual part of the comic.<br />
<br />
==Story and Plot==<br />
<br />
There isn't much of a plot to speak of. The comic centers around a wacky team of I.T. office workers and their antics. They go on [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980615&mode=classic adventures]. They [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20070912 play video games]. They make [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980911&mode=classic penis jokes]. They [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980202 bitch] [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980207 about] [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20070928 Microsoft] and [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20090211&mode=classic current events]. They [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980712&mode=classic hate customers.] There's some sort of [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980228&mode=classic rivalry] between the various creatures created out of random office funk. That’s about it. (I’ll admit: if there was an epic story in the middle of this comic’s run time that I missed, well, I might’ve missed it. But judging from the first and last year of content, I don’t think so.) <br />
<br />
==Art review==<br />
<br><br />
<center>[[File:9fgGImD.gif]]</center><br />
<center>''An early strip from 1998''</center><br />
<br><br />
<center>[[File:EsG7Vd9.gif]]</center><br />
<center>''A current and much better drawn (NOT!) strip from 2013''</center><br />
<br><br />
Oh God! My eyes! My eyes!<br />
<br />
We’ll start with the [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19971117&mode=classic first strip]: here we have sketchy, ill defined bug-eyed drawings that emulate cartoony styles without understanding the underlying anatomy and perspective that makes those cartoony styles work. We see the beloved comic sans font so tiny it’s barely readable—a mark of a true cartoonist wannabe. The props, objects, and people are floating in midair. There’s no contrast or color here—just black and white, which (like the website) makes it difficult for the eye to distinguish where the focal point is supposed to be. But when Illiad later introduces [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19971123&mode=classic color,] the disaster that is the line art is even more obvious. <br />
<br />
The comic seems to be drawn almost exclusively in side view shots, and when it isn't the characters are usually obscured by [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19971126&mode=classic big computers] or [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080502&mode=classic wonky, irregular shapes.] Sometimes we don’t even get that lucky, and even the ''side views'' are obscured by convenient things like [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980810&mode=classic cubicles] and…what the fuck is [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980315&mode=classic this?]<br />
<br />
In twelve whole years of run time, you’d think the comic would have ''had'' to improve, right? Well, you’re in luck. There are some minor differences: UF has finally moved away from that godawful font and now uses something more professional. It also uses grayscale tones to break up the monotony of the black and white lines. But the art? Yep, still [http://ars.userfriendly.org/ crappy.]<br />
<br />
And hell, the art’s even got a leg up these days [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080512&mode=classic courtesy] of [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080522&mode=classic GIS] [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080602&mode=classic photos]. As lazy and shitty as it is to use photos for backgrounds instead of learning to draw them, I’d say it actually improves the look of this comic. <br />
<br />
So after all of this, and after 12 years of updating every single day, what can I say about the art? I honestly think [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19981220&mode=classic this] is the best it ever gets. And that was done in 1998.<br />
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==Writing review==<br />
<br />
I've heard it suggested that in order to like UF, you have to ''get the jokes''. In other words, you have to be a techno geek. If you don't think the jokes are funny, it's because you're too young and stupid to remember the golden days of the internet. It's because you're not an I.T. geek. Or ''maybe'' it's because...<br />
<br />
It’s nothing that hasn't been done a million times before. There’s nothing new being said at all. To be fair, these jokes were probably a bit fresher 12 years ago, but that doesn't make them good. All the [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980705&mode=classic standard,] [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080604&mode=classic boring] jokes you’d expect are present in this comic. The characters like [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19971212&mode=classic video] [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19971216&mode=classic games.] [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19971219&mode=classic A lot.] The characters think [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19981010&mode=classic females don’t belong in a technology environment.] [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19981011&mode=classic Alright!] [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19981012&mode=classic We get it,] [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19981014&mode=classic already!] Females who use computers and play video games? HUHWUT?!?! UNHEARD OF! And if you think the writing gets any more interesting or thought-provoking (or even funny) than this, you are gravely mistaken. <br />
<br />
Occasionally UF will take a break from the normal strip format and do these [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20081207&mode=classic splash page jokes], which are probably the funniest part of the whole comic. They don’t tend to have as much actual drawing in them, generally relying instead on what looks like icons and other images grabbed from Google. In any other comic, it’d be shameful, but in UF, it’s a welcome break. On the other hand, the jokes in these splash pages are trying really hard to be clever but usually fail to be anything more than recycled gamer-bitching.<br />
<br />
So who are the characters of this charming little comic? Good question. Having read through two years worth of strips, I still cannot tell the human characters apart by looking at them. It’s a pretty standard cast, complete with creepy [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20081003&mode=classic nonhuman] [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19971204 sidekicks], [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980125&mode=classic the AI character,] the [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19971120&mode=classic Dilbert-esque looking boss], and the rest of the basic crew:<br />
<br />
Stef seems to be the [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19971129&mode=classic buttmonkey] of the comic, who is [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19971207&mode=classic bad] at [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980212&mode=classic video games] and gets [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19981024&mode=classic all the shit] from the office.<br />
<br />
Greg is the tech support guy who is [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980317&mode=classic obsessed with] [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980324&mode=classic computer games].<br />
<br />
Smiling Man is the creepy guy who [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19971125&mode=classic smiles all the time.]<br />
<br />
Pitr is the guy who [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980723&mode=classic one day] decides to start using a fake Slavic accent and [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080815&mode=classic NEVER STOPS.] And no one seems to give a shit. I don’t know whether Illiad intended for the accent to sound incredibly ignorant because Pitr is supposed to be faking it or if he really thinks that’s what a Slavic accent sounds like, but in either case it is profoundly embarrassing. Even the characters agree [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080506&mode=classic his accent] [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20081217&mode=classic is bullshit.]<br />
<br />
And of course, what cast can be complete without a [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980604&mode=classic f-f-f-female!] And she does just what you’d expect her to: [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980605&mode=classic shock everyone] because she’s female and is working near computers. Wow. I’m guessing the joke is that these people really need to get laid, or something.<br />
<br />
There are more characters, but…who can really tell? They all start sounding the same after the second panel of the first strip.<br />
<br />
So, let’s see: non-existent character depth, hit-or-miss humor that depends on the target audience to find it funny simply by relating to it, jokes that are heavily reminiscent of popular comics of much better quality, mediocre commentary on all the technological current events, and [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080531&mode=classic whatever the fuck this is]. Yep, it’s all there. All this and more can be yours for a simple payment of [http://ars.userfriendly.org/users/choosesponsorlevel.cgi 3.95 a month!]<br />
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==Author biography==<br />
<br />
I don’t know much about J.D. “Illiad” Frazer other than what limited information he presents about himself on his FAQ page. He worked, it comes as no surprise, in the field of information technology, which everyone agrees is the first step to [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980331&mode=classic becoming a cartoonist]. These experiences led him to create the comic we all know and love today, Use—oh, who am I kidding. But, hey, he’ll come speak at your conference if you [http://www.userfriendly.org/faq/#200 pay him enough.] <br />
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==Conclusion==<br />
<br />
''User Friendly'' is an all around disappointment. If ever there were proof that you do not need talent, skill, or any artistic vision whatsoever to make money and have your work printed in niche publications, UF would be it. It manages to avoid getting any better simply because of its subject matter and appeal to its target audience, which Illiad describes as “…a narrow but deep demographic of technology professionals.” Sure, it never manages to be anything more than mediocre, but when you’re in I.T., apparently you’ll take what you can get. <br />
<br />
I think the biggest disappointment is that Illiad has no respect for comics. He's a self-proclaimed "techno geek" and likes to make jokes about it. That's it, and that's all ''User Friendly'' was ever meant to be. It was written by and for people who have no interest in comics themselves but like to laugh at work-related jokes. And this comes as the greatest insult to those of us who care about the medium he's now taken as his career.<br />
<br />
If you’re going to guilt us into money with your pleas for membership and your [http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20081106&mode=classic nag strips], you could ''at least'' respect our dignity and actually put some effort into making this comic. Er, sorry, ''cartoon''.<br />
<br />
==Links==<br />
<br />
* [http://www.websnark.com/archives/2008/05/state_of_the_we_14.html Websnark on UF.]<br />
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_Friendly Wikipedia's entry for UF.]<br />
* [http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/1999/04/07/ Illiad on ''Penny Arcade'']<br />
* [http://badwebcomicsarchive.blogspot.com/2007/07/user-friendly.html The Solomon review.]<br />
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[[Category:Webcomics]]</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Kitsune_Jewel&diff=10729Kitsune Jewel2015-01-15T20:37:29Z<p>DentsAndDings: /* Conclusion */</p>
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<div>{{Gone Forever}}<br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Original review author:'''<br />
|[http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/yaouhuntressearth Yaoi Huntress Earth]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Webcomic name:'''<br />
|[http://www.kitsunejewel.com/ Kitsune Jewel]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Author:'''<br />
|[http://www.kitsunejewel.com/ Emily Maute]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Start Date:'''<br />
|July 22, 2007<br />
|-<br />
|'''End Date:'''<br />
|Ongoing, now Officially Dead<br />
|-<br />
|'''Genre:'''<br />
|Weeaboo Adventure<br />
|-<br />
|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
|Derivative, poorly-done Americanime with little to entertain.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Things that are fucking terrible about this webcomic:'''<br />
|It's a shamelessly tries to be ''Inuyasha'' with worse art and more annoying characters.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Things that aren't terrible but could use improvement:'''<br />
|Not much.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Summary:'''<br />
|Another victim of too much anime and too little else, ''Kitsune Jewel'' is just a sad wannabe with nothing of interest.<br />
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'''Rating Summary'''<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable" style="width:600px"><br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Art:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
Poor drawings that are more cutesy than anything else with weird, jelly-like backgrounds.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
It's just a rip-off of ''Inuyasha''.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Characters:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
They're shallow copies of the cast of ''Inuyasha'', except Mirru is a total bitch who could outdo Kagome on her worst day.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
I don't know how old Maute is so she may just be a kid, so I'll be nice and give her an extra Alice.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
There's worse, but it's still an unlikable, unoriginal mess.<br />
|}<br />
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[[File:KJgif.gif|thumb|right|100px|Your webcomic sucks!]]<br />
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==Background==<br />
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I found this one waiting for an author so I decided to work on it.<br />
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==Story and Plot==<br />
<br />
I can just imagine the brainstorming sessions that went on to create this story...<br />
<br />
"Inuyasha has a teenage girl who has the spirit of a shrine maiden in her soul. What if I gave her brown hair, made her have the spirit of a fox goddess, and have her be a total, screaming bitch. I am a genius!"<br />
<br />
Now imagine that with the rest of ''Inuyasha''. The fox spirits (kitsunes) and Mirru (the heroine) go back and forth between worlds (hers and a vaguely Japanese-looking one), looking for thirteen jewels. Her future love interest is a mixed breed outcast, and there’s a brooding, long-haired bishie who [http://www.kitsunejewel.com/ic/20081020.html takes an orphaned girl under his wing]. So it’s a race against time and sanity (for me) to see which side will win. <br />
<br />
==Downfall== <br />
<br />
The comic was pretty bad from the start, but it got especially annoying when they came across Mirru, the main heroine (who I will explain in further detail in the Writing Review).<br />
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==Art review==<br />
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[[File:100Khitspic.png|thumb|left|300px|'''Kitsune Jewel''' - Where [https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Weeaboos weeaboos] and [https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Wolfaboos wolfaboos] meet!]]<br />
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Even on the first page, you can see the trouble as you get to stare at two foxes and a big, fat [http://www.kitsunejewel.com/ic/20070722.html infodump.] Granted, that story might’ve been more interesting, but it’s not the last time you’ll see those [http://www.kitsunejewel.com/ic/20070918.html infodump boxes] or using [http://www.kitsunejewel.com/ic/20071213.html sound effects] over showing an action. And like any badly drawn comic, Emily Maute (the creator) relies on stupid little [http://www.kitsunejewel.com/ic/20070829.html description arrows] to explain things that usually don’t need explanation. There's also the bad sketch-like [http://www.kitsunejewel.com/ic/20070815.html backgrounds] that clash with the Bratz doll style characters, [http://www.kitsunejewel.com/ic/20070815.html dull power blasts], bad guys who are more [http://www.kitsunejewel.com/ic/20080607.html cutesy than threatening], and bad fights that in the earlier chapters consisted of a hit or two before the bad guys ran away. <br />
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==Writing review== <br />
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As for the story, I just didn't care, and I even skipped a few weeks just to finish this thing. It’s so dull, unimaginative, and predictable that even its attempts to be [http://www.kitsunejewel.com/ic/20080613.html dramatic] automatically fail. Because Maute wants this thing to be ''Inuyasha'' so bad, it has no voice of its own.<br />
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Too bad the characters aren't any better. Ryu and Tatamare are pretty much interchangeable except that Ryu is more innocent and inexperienced. There’s also the typical pervy mentor, the mysterious bishie I mentioned before, and our “heroine”, Mirru. With her Kagome hair, Mirru never ceases to make me want to kick her in the face. Granted she’s your typical [http://www.kitsunejewel.com/ic/20070807.html angry], stubborn, [http://www.kitsunejewel.com/ic/20071014.html hate-filled] uber-bitch that the Japanese seem to be utterly infatuated with. It doesn't make me hate her any less. <br />
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And when Maute tries to show what a ''twagic'' past the girl has with her foster parents, it plays off more like some [http://www.kitsunejewel.com/ic/20071115.html rightfully pissed] parents who are wondering what their bitch ward was doing, ([http://www.kitsunejewel.com/ic/20080220.html minus the hitting] of course). The comic book, Freex, proved that the angry, temperamental delinquent character can be done right, so none of the fans cam come and whine to me how “I don’t like characters with flaws”. Then again, Gerard Jones treated Val’s temper as a flaw that had consequences and not some cute\funny trait that everyone else just went, “aw you” and put up with. While Mirru has been getting nicer in the latter stories, it’s her earlier attitude that destroyed any empathy and interest I had in the character.<br />
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==Author biography== <br />
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I couldn't find much, but I'm sure Maute has to be at least a teenager with the way she writes, draws, the anime she likes, and the whining portrayal of Mirru's foster parents as monsters for not letting her get away with murder.<br />
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==Conclusion==<br />
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Like [[No Need for Bushido]] and [[Zap!]], ''Kitsune Jewel'' screams, "look at me, I'm a pale impersonation of something else". ''Kitsune Jewel'' is trying so hard to be [http://www.kitsunejewel.com/ic/20070924.html ''Inuyasha''], with nothing that made the original show watchable, that you can predict what will happen next.<br />
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==Links==<br />
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|'''Original review author:'''<br />
| [[User:oddguy|oddguy]]<br />
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|'''Webcomic name:'''<br />
| [http://www.pasteldefender.com/to%20save%20her%20000.html To Save Her]<br />
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|'''Author:'''<br />
| [https://encyclopediadramatica.es/Jennifer_Diane_Reitz Jennifer Diane Reitz]<br />
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|'''Start Date:'''<br />
| July 9th, 2005<br />
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|'''End Date:'''<br />
| July 20th, 2009<br />
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|'''Genre:'''<br />
| Sci-fi<br />
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|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
| If you are familiar with the works of JDR you can probably already guess.<br />
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'''Rating Summary'''<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable" style="width:600px"><br />
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|'''Art:'''<br />
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Lazy, blobby, black & white.<br />
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|'''Storyline:'''<br />
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Confusing mess.<br />
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|'''Characters:'''<br />
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Stupid and abrasive. <br />
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|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
JDR is still as psychotic as ever.<br />
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|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
The best work by JDR so far... Which is still pretty damn bad.<br />
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==Background==<br />
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Say what you will about the old ''Portal of Evil'', but they really knew how to pick their crazies. There is a special "honor" reserved for only the truly worst webcomic artists out there. You see, if your comic is bad you might get a few threads about you, maybe a review here or there, possibly some hate art. If it gets worse than that someone might make a blog dedicated to you or a video or maybe even draw his own parody version of your comic. But there are a few webcomic artists that are so amazingly bad and crazy that entire websites, forums and wikis are made focusing only on them. Only a few people have been so awful as to warrant that. [[Sonichu|Chris-chan]] has a few websites, wikis and forums about him. David Gonterman has a few sites and a dedicated forum on ''Portal of Evil'' and [[Ctrl+Alt+Del|Tim Buckley]] has had attempts to make a wiki about him pop up every now and then. But there is one more person whose never ending dedication to sucking has lead to an entire sub-forum made solely for the sake of discussing him on POE. That person is Jennifer Diane Reitz, or as he is known online "J.D.R". His most infamous work is "[[Pastel Defender Heliotrope]]", which was so bad that years later it is still a laughing stock. But he has other awful comics that people often overlook like "[[Unicorn Jelly]]", which we have already reviewed and, finally, this last and most recent train-wreck.<br />
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On a side note, some of you may have already noticed that I am referring to this person as a "He" rather than a "She". I am falling in line with every other webcomic critic in maintaining that being a psychotic who admittedly lied to his psychiatrist to get his gender reassigned does not make you female. If there are any transgenders reading this review and are offended by this, take it as a compliment that I will not insult you by associating your community with this... thing called JDR.<br />
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==Downfall==<br />
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The comic is bad all the way through. Still, the worst part comes near the ending when JDR can no longer contain his desire to make the story about him so it becomes a ham-handed allegory. More on that later.<br />
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==Art review==<br />
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[[File:1interview pho.png|thumb|right|125px|<center>Banana Face</center>]]<br />
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There is little to say about the art here. JDR is not an artist and he never was one. TSH is all black an white, everything is, for lack of a better word, "Blobby" and the only artistic technique JDR seems to be aware of is smudging everything. The character designs are a joke. Since most of the characters are recycled from one of her previous comics (Unicorn Jelly), and that comic was drawn in some old DOS program, his attempt to adapt them into his new style without changing them too much proves to be futile. I wouldn't exactly say JDR has improved, but Photoshop allows for far more flexibility than what he was using to make UJ and as a result all the new and (sort of) detailed backgrounds don't go well together with the two-dimensional characters. What works even less well is taking said two-dimensional characters and trying to add some sort of depth to them by adding shading to their original design. Something that ends with one of the characters named "Pho" having a head shaped like a giant banana with a mustache.<br />
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==Writing and Plot== <br />
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Here is the formula for the plot writing of TSH:<br />
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Take the least likable character from [[Unicorn Jelly]], add alternate universe versions of the characters from [[Unicorn Jelly]] that will require you to understand the already confusing plot of [[Unicorn Jelly]] just to understand this comic but make it more convoluted and multiply all that by 374 pages and countless alternate time-lines and you have this clusterfuck of bullshit.<br />
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The story goes like this: Kay-wai, the unnecessary addition to [[Unicorn Jelly]] who's only function was to act as JDR's avatar in his transgender moralizing, goes on a quest to save someone from another world in a fashion that will potentially destroy all life in all worlds because that's what she feels like doing. To do this she must collect some of the characters from a previous comic who look like themselves but don't really act like themselves, so unless you read the other comic you won't understand the context in which you are supposed to know them, and if you ''did'' read it, it will only make things slightly less confusing.<br />
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Kay-wai is a jelly thing so she puts on a robot skeleton to make herself look human as not to scare anyone. But she is really a male, interspecies transgender jelly thing, meaning that she not only wants to be another sex, but also another sex of another species. So she puts on the transformation skeleton and fawns over herself in the mirror and how good she looks as a girl. But her happiness is short-lived and this happens-<br />
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<center>'''Boo hoo hoo'''</center><br />
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This is pretty obviously JDR lamenting his own failed sex-change operation that left him looking about as feminine as a Clint Eastwood. The malfunctioning robot leaves her looking like a half human and half jelly creature that is also sort of female and after that the sex change thing is not mentioned again for most of the comic apart from her meeting another character with gender identity issues who ends up having a sex-change operation off-screen while Kay-wai is asleep. So Kay gathers all the other crew members together, they fuck up space and time beyond repair, and then surprise surprise there is a plot twist and it turns out Kay was really trying to destroy all of humanity because she is mad at them. You see, she was born a deformed jelly in a society where humans are superior to jellies and both hate her for being deformed. Her only wish is to be a human and all of this is a metaphor for transgenderism which is more on-the-nose than a punch from Evander Holyfield. Except, it isn't really a metaphor because, besides being figuratively a transgender, she is also literally a transgender since she also wants to be changed from male to female.<br />
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This is some real, grade A hack writing. I guess JDR thought we wouldn't get his oh-so-subtle analogy and had to make his author surrogate transgender as well as trans-species. Well, the story goes on and there is a big plot twist involving time travel which is pretty clever...or at least it would have been if JDR hasn't already used the exact same plot device at the end of Unicorn Jelly a few years ago. It all ends when she is saved from committing genocide by the power of love. She realizes she doesn't need to kill everyone because she is in love with the male protagonist even though they haven't shown any indication of liking each other at any point. This is made worse by the fact she STILL hasn't told him she is actually a male. I wish the story went on a bit longer and we got to see her telling him that she is not only a sentient dessert, but also a dude. Turning the entire comic into a big "Turns out the prostitute had a dick" joke.<br />
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This comic really is a mess. And worse than that is it being a part of a larger universe. [[Pastel Defender Heliotrope]] is the sequel to [[Unicorn Jelly]] and ''To Save Her'' is a sequel/alternate version of both. I want you to look at this-<br />
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This was made by JDR himself to explain the world his stories exists in. Understand any of it? Well, tough shit because this diagram only describes the plot of UJ and PDH. Adding TSH into the mix would probably look something like this-<br />
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==Author biography== <br />
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[[File:Buffalo-Bill.jpg|thumb|right|300px|It puts the lotion on the skin.]]<br />
In the past, when reviewing this artist, we hand waved this section with "Oh, you already know who JDR is". But it has been a while since he has been the center of attention so I figured this would be the perfect opportunity to delve a bit deeper into the insanity that is JDR.<br />
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Jennifer Reitz was once the proud owner of the gaming website ''"[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Puppy Happy Puppy]"'', which he sold in the mid 90's reportedly for a sum between 1.5 and 2.4 '''million''' dollars (which was worth a lot more then than it is now). A sum which he has been able to piss away in a few short years on an [http://otakuworld.com/jennifer/image/tour/index.html insane collection of anime paraphernalia].<br />
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Later he lied his way through a psychiatric exam to have a sex change operation and opened a website that tries to convince others to do the same and even helps them by providing an answer key to help cheat psychologists (taking the infamous test on that site resulted in me being told I'm androgynous). There are actually testimonies by people who were almost misled by him and his site into undergoing irreversible operations. But it is the public's opinion that he now regrets this surgery since he is not, nor has he ever been, an actual transgender. He does not have Gender Dysphoria. What he really is, is crazy. Despite a rabid hate for men which extends to believing testosterone is literally poison, no longer being one still does not satisfy him and he admits [http://www.jenniverse.com/images/aeala%20body.jpg his ideal body is actually a genderless, gelatinous blob] (which explains the main character of this comic). In essence, he is the ''Buffalo Bill'' from ''Silence of the Lambs'' of the webcomic world. Thankfully, someone allowed him to have his dick cut off to try and sooth his self-hatred before he started skinning women to wear as a suit.<br />
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So far this has all been discussed elsewhere. Therefore, before starting this article, I tried to research a little more in hopes of having something new to bring up. And I did not have to look for long. I thought I would have to read all his moronic stories, but the evidence to his insanity came in the form of a short comic called "''Impossible Things Before Breakfast''". Much to my dismay, a few weeks before I began writing this, ''[http://www.projectafter.com/index.html Project A.F.T.E.R]'' published [http://www.projectafter.com/cr_pdh.html a review of his other comic that beat me to the punch]. But this all bears repeating and so I will.<br />
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<u>'''''"Impossible Things Before Breakfast"'''''</u> is [http://jenniverse.com/impossible%20things%20cover.html JDR's comic about supernatural events that had (supposedly) happened to him that prove what a special snowflake he is]. There are ten stories (with a "Coming Soon" sign on a few more in the index) that go like this-<br />
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# JDR meets a time traveling witch who deletes herself from existence after he exposed her secret.<br />
# His mother, in a fit of madness, drives 350 miles to yell at an old lady and then places a curse on her.<br />
# Jenny sees an opening to another dimension appear in his classroom.<br />
# '''JENNY CAN CONTROL LIGHTNING!!!''' And once ran '''naked''' into a rainstorm to try and prove this.<br />
# Jenny is possessed by a spirit who takes him to another world to show him how to draw ''Unicorn Jelly''... If I had to guess I would say that spirit was Satan.<br />
# '''JENNY REACHED THE END OF A RAINBOW!!!''' <br />
# Jenny sees an alien spaceship.<br />
# Jenny tries so kill himself and then sees his own ghost who has a glowing vagina, thereby proving he is really a girl.<br />
# Jenny acquires telekinesis.<br />
# A ghost kills Jenny's dog so he uses black magic to banish the ghost and '''bring her dog back from the dead'''.<br />
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These are all things Jenny actually believes happened. But I find the second one most interesting. You see, [https://encyclopediadramatica.es/Jennifer_Diane_Reitz Encyclopedia Dramatica] has a list of psychological conditions they think JDR has, and I believe paranoid schizophrenia needs to be added to that list because, if the entire ordeal was not another delusion, that means his mother is just as crazy him and whatever is wrong with him might be a hereditary mental illness. More evidence to that fact is that his mother tried to '''stab him''' when he told her he was a trans and told him that he was born as a result of rape by his evil father (further explaining why he hates men and himself to the point of having his dick cut off). Psychosis induced stress might also explain why JDR had a heart attack in his forties.<br />
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All of this is just the tip of the iceberg. Most of the information about what a maniac he is was lost when P.O.E was. The members of that site used to keep a close watch on JDR, documenting his lunacy. What remains of that are a few excerpts in other articles mentioning things like JDR admitting to being a chronic masturbator, JDR wanting to kill his employer, JDR begging his readers to give him 2,500$ to buy a new computer, JDR berating his husband for not spending every waking minute making a video game for him that no one but him cares about and drawing a comic wherein his husband apologizes to him for ruining his life and, finally, JDR believing his doctor is trying to murder him. The final nail was when John Solomon [http://badwebcomicsarchive.blogspot.co.il/2007/06/pastel-defender-heliotrope.html wrote a review] of his comic to which he responded by telling Solomon that "[She] (should have been "He") is not afraid of him". When Solomon [http://badwebcomicsarchive.blogspot.co.il/2007/06/more-pastel-defender-heliotrope.html made fun of this as well] JDR replied by telling him that he is [http://badwebcomicsarchive.blogspot.co.il/2007/06/more-jdr-crazy.html going to kill him].<br />
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Today the JDR looks like a 50 year old man with a wig and a dress on and lives his sad little life in some sort of communal marriage with a woman, another transvestite and a man who is the only bread-winner in the bunch yet still gets regularly insulted by JDR in long, rambling blog posts because he is a man and all men are evil penis monsters. JDR doesn't work anymore because he has severe anxiety that prevents him from leaving the house (self diagnosed, obviously), which didn't stop him from attending an MLP convention. On a related topic, his most recent endeavor was joining the ''"The Conversion Bureau"'' fanfiction group. An infamous gang of psychopathic idiots who collectively write a story about how they wish the earth fell victim to some sort of genocide that forcefully converted humanity into ponies and killed everyone who refused. There JDR is held as a master writer (maybe since the rest of the community consists of 13 year olds), or perhaps it just seems that way because he deletes any negative comments about his stories. Not only that, but he had gone so far as to '''demand''' that the administration of FanFiction.net delete all Anti-Conversion Bureau groups and ban all their members.<br />
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What a fucking loon.<br />
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==Conclusion==<br />
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This comic might have been good if it was made by someone who could draw. It might have been good if it was made by someone who didn't feel the need to transform it into a lame pity-party for himself near its end. It might have been good if it was made by someone who is not completely crazy. But those are a lot of "If's".<br />
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As it stands, on the scale of JDR crap, [[To Save Her]] is worse than [[Unicorn Jelly]] yet not as bad as [[Pastel Defender Heliotrope]] (maybe because nothing on this earth could possibly be quite as bad as [[Pastel Defender Heliotrope]]). Which is a lot like saying that AIDS is worse than cancer but not as bad as the Black Plague.<br />
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==Other Comics by this Author that have Been Reviewed on Our Site==<br />
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*[[Pastel Defender Heliotrope]]<br />
*[[Unicorn Jelly]]<br />
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==Links==<br />
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* [http://jenniverse.com/ His main site].<br />
* [http://www.transsexual.org/index.html His transexsualism propaganda site].<br />
* [http://otakuworld.com/jennifer.html His anime nerd site he thinks makes him a web celebrity] - Sadly for him, this is not what he is famous for.<br />
* [https://encyclopediadramatica.es/Jennifer_Diane_Reitz Encyclopedia Dramatica article]. (NOTE: All links to Encyclopedia Dramatica are NSFW.)<br />
* [http://www.heavy.com/comedy/2010/07/the-20-worst-internet-losers/4/ JDR wins 4th place in a list of the 20 worst internet losers.]<br />
* [http://web.archive.org/web/20090801193238/http://friends.portalofevil.com/sfs.php?si=3&fi=000016856 Archived version of the ''Portal of Evil'' forum dedicated to her] - You can only read the topic titles on the first page, but there being '''EIGHT PAGES''' of this shit speaks volumes about how crazy he is.<br />
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Diane_Reitz Wikipedia article].<br />
* [http://badwebcomicsarchive.blogspot.co.il/2007/06/pastel-defender-heliotrope.html First], [http://badwebcomicsarchive.blogspot.com/2007/06/more-pastel-defender-heliotrope.html second] and [http://badwebcomicsarchive.blogspot.com/2007/06/more-jdr-crazy.html third PDH review by Solomon.]<br />
* [http://dramapatrol.blogspot.co.il/2007/06/profile-jennifer-diane-reitz.html?zx=f050ea992e708ba Psychological analysis of JDR on "Me and You and Mary-Sue"] and another analysis [http://dramapatrol.blogspot.co.il/2007/09/synergy-or-very-special-update.html?zx=a9f74bf82fbc1eb4 of her misguiding gender identity test] on the same blog.<br />
* [http://www.projectafter.com/cr_pdh.html Project A.F.T.E.R review of PDH] - Hasn't tried to murder them yet.<br />
* [http://www.projectafterforums.com/index.php?s=d13fc45e89c256268db446cb240b5a42&showtopic=3314&st=0&p=162999&#entry162999 First], [http://www.projectafterforums.com/index.php?showtopic=3815 second], [http://www.projectafterforums.com/index.php?showtopic=3613 third] and [http://www.projectafterforums.com/index.php?showtopic=3847 fourth thread about JDR on the Project A.F.T.E.R forums] - These are golden.<br />
* [http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2868387&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 Old thread about him on Something Awful.]<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgJgDVrsGho Even Youtube agrees.]<br />
* [http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=126951 Jenny makes a video about having projectile diarrhea.]<br />
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|review author = [http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/Angry-Lesbian Angry Lesbian]<br />
|webcomic name = [http://pasteldefender.com/ Pastel Defender Heliotrope]<br />
|author = [http://jenniverse.com/ Jennifer Diane Reiz]<br />
|start date = January 8th, 2004<br />
|end date = January 23rd, 2008<br />
|genre = Sci-Fi<br />
|flaw = Everything. Seriously, it cannot be pinpointed to just one thing.<br />
|terrible = Drowning everything in bullshit psuedo-science and expecting us to take it up the ass with a smile when the characters in the comic look like children's book rejects. More words than Tim Buckley has EVER spewed out. PAGES AND PAGES OF EXTRA SCIENCE TO READ AFTER THE COMIC.<br />
|notbad = Some thought is put into the psuedo-science (like yaoihuntressearth has pointed out). But, really, it's too much. It's not even needed in most cases. The art is cute, and it shows a lot of time went into it, even if it is mushy. I dare say if the comic had no text at all, it might even be.. mediocre.<br />
|summary = This comic is a mess of preachy morals and too deep sci-fi. If you like that sort of thing, you'd still hate whatever's left of it. Nobody truly wins. Solution: Burn it or surgically remove the words, leaving one pile of pretty pictures and one pile of quantum physic bastardization mumbo jumbo.<br />
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|art = [[File:Derpcons unicrap.gif]][[File:Derpcons unicrap.gif]]<br>One unicrap for effort, another one for imagination. Too bad the rest looks like it's literally melting off the screen. It's a step above her/his horrible b&w bitmap comic, but not by much.<br />
|storyline = [[File:Derpcons bullshitonium.gif]]<br>One highly radioactive isotope of bullshitonium because GOOD GOD THIS SHIT IS AWFUL. If this story was a ship, it'd be the Titanic. And y'all know where that went.<br />
|characters = [[File:Derpcons_pastey.gif]]<br>One Pastey Heliodope. Imagine a cast of lifeless puppets with tons of techno babble stuffing, spewing strange tongues and trying really badly to act like humans.<br />
|mdetails = [[File:Derpcons_genderfail.gif]]<br>This comic is worse than a failed gender change operation. You are now a horribly disfigured tranny. Manually. No, no I'm serious. Try reading it. Just try to get to the end in one piece. I dare ya.<br />
|overall = [[File:Derpcons_screw.gif]][[File:Derpcons_screw.gif]][[File:Derpcons_screw.gif]][[File:Derpcons_screw.gif]][[File:Derpcons_screw.gif]]<br>The amount of screws lost from the creator's head is inversely proportional to how bad this comic is. I don't think I need to hammer it in, don't I? There's plenty of better comics out there that don't require cliff notes, pie charts and periodic tables.<br />
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==Background==<br />
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I started reading this comic years ago, around the time it began. Why? Well, back then I was drawn to its cutesy art style. It's just.. So unassuming and sucks you in like a sand trap. I didn't know who this J.D.R. was, until I found out the 'dirt' behind this chick and oooooh lord is it all making sense now (I'll link those resources later..). Well, even when I read it (back then and now), it starts out simple enough.. You tend to overlook the extra pages of 'info' this chick puts under her comics.. Then.. Slowly.. Things descend into madness as those extras grow and the dialogue consumes the very pages they're written on. It becomes a chore to choke down the bullshit equations, and that's not even the half of it. There's things like weird gay relationships sneaking themselves into an otherwise innocent looking and fluffy sci-fi/superhero extravaganza, sex dolls come to life, and senseless violence.<br />
<br />
Y'know, other people might love to rip this one a new bleeding hole, but to me this story, or should I say concept, is a damn shameful thing to waste. It was an 'ok' concept (like a Saturday Morning cartoon, or cutesy anime crap) buried in <u>'''TOTAL SHIT'''</u>. In fact, this entire story is based on a much simpler "picture story" made for an ancient PC program that would display images and text with sound in a tiny screen theater, and for its time it was pretty neat (before Flash came along). That story, for what it was worth, really ''was'' the cutesy anime crap, about a doll (just a doll, none of this sex doll bull) coming to life and defeating a (somewhat generic) enemy, with a happy ending. That's it. But nooooooooooo JDR decided to 'expand' upon that and that's where we're leaving off.<br />
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Yes, I do sound rather angry. I got bones to pick. This isn't going to be pretty. But hey, there's cake at the end.<br />
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[[File:pastelheeliotorp1.png|400px|thumb|center|SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP.]]<br />
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==Story and Plot==<br />
<br />
'''WARNING: THIS IS GOING TO BE LONG AND PAINFUL.'''<br />
<br />
Let's say you didn't know about JDR. Let's say you also didn't know about her sites. Let's say you are an average guy/gal that has an average IQ and likes to read "the wonderful world of web comics". You accidentally tripped upon this site and generally 'like' the cutesy pastel colors and gummy designs. Let's just say you have a high tolerance for pain and are pretty open minded.<br />
<br />
You will not last through this comic without a migraine. Get yer fucking booze out, this is going to be the worst and longest acid trip you'll ever take:<br />
<br />
Alright, we start off with the [http://pasteldefender.com/cover.html cover] with an out of place Japanese title (seriously folks, if your comic is in English, and your audience is primarily English, nobody is going to 'get' this) and a.. poorly drawn doll bust of our soon-to-be hero. Fine enough, moving on.. We get some [http://pasteldefender.com/chapter001.html inner workings] of this doll. Eh, that's ok. It's nice to geek out with some background info once in a while. I'm a little perturbed by the, uh, "Pleasure Maiden" bit.. (Keep in mind: the doll company's name is ''Hentaiseiyoku'', which basically translates to sexual perversion.) Then we see the guy that looks like he came out from some other mediocre newspaper comic going to a... [http://pasteldefender.com/001.html Sex shop] (Yes, it's in Japanese. It's official, we are in Weeaboo Land. Anger.. Rising..) to buy the same doll we've been talking about. We find out he's Dr. Aoi, a famous scientist, and we also get our first taste of one of JDR's many made-up cuss words. [http://pasteldefender.com/002.html Majumdered.]<br />
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We are going to play a little game. Take the smallest swig of light booze, or whatever spirits you got for whenever you hear or see something that confuses or pisses you off, or just looks out of place. You will be dead by the end of this review.<br />
<br />
[[File:pastelheeliotorp2.png|thumb|400px|center|Boozonia Galaxy D[34]23-a 15hgadfargeg]]<br />
<br />
So, Aoi runs back home and wallows in [http://pasteldefender.com/004.html self turmoil] for doing some dirty deeds. I would've expect him to do this BEFORE he went out or AFTER he used it, but whatever. Aoi's a giant pussy. We get to see more of JDR's candy coated world, but the magical feeling has already been tainted, and before it wears off.. We get Dr. Aoi and a shit load of words. This is just the beginning. We get a [http://pasteldefender.com/007.html CLASS LECTURE ON BULLSHITONIUM].<br />
<br />
At this point, if you were me, you'd just skip over the words to look at the pretty pictures. Don't be ashamed in doing so, you aren't [http://pasteldefender.com/008.html missing much]. In fact, to keep this review at sane levels (if that's even possible), we're going to skim over a lot of things from now on. We've already gone waaaaay over our limit. But this is JDR. It's a never ending joy ride.<br />
<br />
We then get to see this orange haired.. [http://pasteldefender.com/012.html lady]? Get abused by her.. dad? [http://pasteldefender.com/013.html Oh geez].. Then we get [http://pasteldefender.com/014.html Fuschia], a rather normal looking girl (by this comic's standards) going to church after daydreaming in comics. I'm getting a lot of Mary Sue vibes, but I'm not sure if my radar is broken from all this booze.<br />
<br />
So, Fuschia is a [http://pasteldefender.com/016.html rebel] of.. some sort, and we're supposed to feel sorry for her. Oh hey, more [http://pasteldefender.com/023.html SCIENCE].<br />
<br />
... Geez, this is going nowhere, isn't it? We haven't even got to the point where the [http://pasteldefender.com/025.html sex doll shows up]. Well, long story short, doll comes to life, becomes a Powerpuff Girl, beats up Orange bitch, falls in love with Fuschia and a ton of other crap happens, and in the end merges together (literally), and somehow EVERYBODY DIES as Fuschiatrope lives on forever as '[http://pasteldefender.com/230.html god]'. There, I saved you the pain. Really, did you want to sit through this [http://pasteldefender.com/226.html bull crap]?<br />
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[[File:pastelheeliotorp3.png|thumb|400px|center|SCIENCE MOTHERFUCKERS. REPRESENT.]]<br />
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==Downfall==<br />
<br />
Don't even get me started.. It.. Oh fuck it. Seriously, ''[http://pasteldefender.com/228.html what the hell is all of this?]'' It couldn't just be a fluffy sci-fi beat-em-up and romance? It just had to be a '''clusterfuck''', didn't it?<br />
<br />
[http://pasteldefender.com/231.html Look at this.] Ignore the wapanese and text. Just block those out of your mind if you still have the willpower. Wouldn't this make an adorable children's story? I'm not saying it'd be the ''best story'', but it just.. Y'know what I'm getting at? It steams me. Burns me to a crisp when I see ''somewhat nice'' characters in the hands of a madman who puts them through pages and pages of turmoil. This.. I don't even know what this is. It's high level Rain Man Mind Fuck. No ordinary person is going to enjoy this.<br />
<br />
And, quite frankly, looking at the cutesy art, this is a goddamn shame. It's a bait and switch. You go in expecting a Saturday morning cartoon and instead you get War and Peace, hardcover Extended Edition, slammed into your face. '''''And this is just one of her comics.'''''<br />
<br />
"Now, hold on for one second, Angry Lesbian." You ask as you scold me for all these big mean words. "I kinda like the cute art style and I can follow what these imaginary beings within JDR's head are saying." You say, doubting my review. And I say to you that's ''fine''. You have a high tolerance for pain, you like all the pretty words and "deep meanings", and overlook the obvious Star-Gate-ripoff-isms. Oh, and maybe the female abuse/daddy issues laden about. "Congratulations!" I say, you have passed JDR's secret Transgender Test. Uh, I mean, you are one of the few that doesn't know what a good webcomic is, uh I mean, '''''MOVING ON...'''''<br />
<br />
==Author biography==<br />
<br />
What can I say about this man.. girl.. beast that hasn't been said before? Here are some links to 'enjoy' if your head isn't already reeling from the essay I oozed out:<br />
[http://badwebcomics.blogspot.com/2007/06/pastel-defender-heliotrope.html Pastel Defender Heliotrope review]<br />
[http://badwebcomics.blogspot.com/2007/06/more-pastel-defender-heliotrope.html More about JDR, specially the Kokoro Wish]<br />
[http://badwebcomics.blogspot.com/2007/06/more-jdr-crazy.html JDR CRAZY: Death threat to Solomon]<br />
<br />
So, yeah. All kinds of alarms going off. What do I think? Well, you don't want to know what I think.<br />
... Fuck it, y'know, there's some people who really shouldn't be allowed near art programs. If you want to write out a huge sci-fi ESSAY, do it in TEXT. Y'know, just make a goddamn Jenninomicon. A physics text book of all the quack logic and diagrams. The characters, the story, the art, ''it doesn't fucking matter. '''It's dead. You killed it. You killed it like all the others.'''''<br />
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Oh my god.. I'm turning into her.. No.. NOOOOOOOoooo. Just three more sections Angry Lesbian.. You can do this. You can get this done with whatever brain cells left behind. There's cake at the end. You like cake, right? Aha. Ahahah..<br />
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[[File:pastelheeliotorp5.png|thumb|400px|center|Heliotrope wishes she was in a better story. Silly doll, there's no galaxy equation for that.]]<br />
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==Art review==<br />
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[[File:pdhstinkindrunk.png|thumb|200px|right|"No I'm not apologizing for the lack of actual JDR images. I want you to suffer by actually visiting the links. ''It's that bad.''"]]<br />
<br />
I've been giving JDR much too much credit for this. It's.. charming at first. But incredibly mushy as <del>time goes on</del> always. Have I mentioned how the art '''''TOTALLY DOES NOT FIT ALL THIS WORDY BULLSHIT?''' No? ''Well, now you know.''<br />
<br />
I'm going to probably get the same complaints as I did with people actually 'getting' this magnum opus. And I say bull. ''Bull to you this time.'' You might as well have stick figures with mile long word balloons, ''it doesn't match.'' A good story (and this isn't) needs good art that compliments it. Oh, sure, those charts sure do look pretty sometimes, but it's a moot point. That's like sticking flowers on a toilet. Now you have a pretty toilet. Good for you.<br />
<br />
What would I do to make it better (and I was held at gun point and being told I couldn't change the text)? Alright, first I'd moody this shit up to the max. Give em more realistic bodies and thick outlines. Make a dedicated space for all this word crap. At least that'd be one step towards getting a nerdy audience (who'd probably want their art as serious as their algorithms) this comic deserves. It's almost mocking me on how ''it completely doesn't fucking match ''the seriousness of the ham-handed heavy story.'''''<br />
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Wait, [http://pasteldefender.com/147.html this might work].. Still mushy tho.<br />
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'''''I took it upon myself to see if I can try better (with no color) after seeing Norad's noble attempts in his own reviews. It's not much. (huge image warning)'''''<br />
<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable" style="width:600px">[[File:pastelpuppies.png|thumb|900px|center|''Nothing can save the verbose lectures or story. Sorry. I'm an artist, not a miracle worker.'']]</div><br />
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==Writing review==<br />
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I.. I can't. I just can't. What could possibly be said that hasn't already reared its ugly head in the previous sections? .. No. No you can't make me. I won't.. I won't..<br />
<br />
Oh my lord, I swear this man-beast hasn't spoken to another living being that isn't a clone of her/him/it. I bet the two other beasts she leeches off of are exactly alike. Like robot hobbits. There's just something so incredibly awkward about the writing, ''on top of the graphic charts,'' that's like a one-two sucker punch. Who, ''really'', who talks like this? As much as I hate to attack the person behind this wreck (really, I'm a firm believer that the comics and art don't directly represent the artist. I'm hoping this is work spawned from crackpot dreams), but I could swear there's some high level autism shut-in at work here. And the scary thing is, I could be ''right.'' Look, I won't blame ya for that JDR. Can't help those things. But at least try to get out more often. Oh forget it, I'm not playing psychiatrist. pfft.<br />
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Emotions? Who needs em?! Pfft! Let's have characters have [http://pasteldefender.com/009.html sudden malfunctions]. Let's have them say all of this [http://pasteldefender.com/228.html monologue]. It's okay! Someone out there will get it! My dolls will do the work for me! They will let people know about my creations! That's all that matters! ''Science!'' Humans suck ''(and religion too! Oh, and don't forget my abusive dad!)'' Even though they created science.. Humans.. Creating Scie-<br />
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<b>*SYSTEM MALFUNCTION*<br />
*REBOOTING ANGRY LESBIAN ALGORITHMS*</b><br />
<br />
Wait, where am I? Oh crap I gotta review JDR's comi-.. Hey, cool, someone did it for me. Conclusion? CRAP.<br />
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==Conclusion==<br />
<br />
Uh.. JDR is a loon.<br />
<br />
Cake? What cake?<br />
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[[File:pastelheeliotorp4.png|thumb|400px|center|Fatty like cake.]]<br />
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==Other Comics by this Author that have been Reviewed on our Site==<br />
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*[[Unicorn Jelly]]<br />
*[[To Save Her]]<br />
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==Links==<br />
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In case you missed them, here's the previous reviews, plus some extra.<br />
* [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.se/Jennifer_Diane_Reitz Encyclopedia Dramatica's article on JDR]<br />
* [http://friends.portalofevil.com/sfs.php?si=3&fi=000016856 Kokoro Wish, on Portal of Evil]<br />
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|review author = [http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/Angry-Lesbian Angry Lesbian]<br />
|webcomic name = [http://pasteldefender.com/ Pastel Defender Heliotrope]<br />
|author = [http://jenniverse.com/ Jennifer Diane Reiz]<br />
|start date = January 8th, 2004<br />
|end date = January 23rd, 2008<br />
|genre = Sci-Fi<br />
|flaw = Everything. Seriously, it cannot be pinpointed to just one thing.<br />
|terrible = Drowning everything in bullshit psuedo-science and expecting us to take it up the ass with a smile when the characters in the comic look like children's book rejects. More words than Tim Buckley has EVER spewed out. PAGES AND PAGES OF EXTRA SCIENCE TO READ AFTER THE COMIC.<br />
|notbad = Some thought is put into the psuedo-science (like yaoihuntressearth has pointed out). But, really, it's too much. It's not even needed in most cases. The art is cute, and it shows a lot of time went into it, even if it is mushy. I dare say if the comic had no text at all, it might even be.. mediocre.<br />
|summary = This comic is a mess of preachy morals and too deep sci-fi. If you like that sort of thing, you'd still hate whatever's left of it. Nobody truly wins. Solution: Burn it or surgically remove the words, leaving one pile of pretty pictures and one pile of quantum physic bastardization mumbo jumbo.<br />
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|art = [[File:Derpcons unicrap.gif]][[File:Derpcons unicrap.gif]]<br>One unicrap for effort, another one for imagination. Too bad the rest looks like it's literally melting off the screen. It's a step above her/his horrible b&w bitmap comic, but not by much.<br />
|storyline = [[File:Derpcons bullshitonium.gif]]<br>One highly radioactive isotope of bullshitonium because GOOD GOD THIS SHIT IS AWFUL. If this story was a ship, it'd be the Titanic. And y'all know where that went.<br />
|characters = [[File:Derpcons_pastey.gif]]<br>One Pastey Heliodope. Imagine a cast of lifeless puppets with tons of techno babble stuffing, spewing strange tongues and trying really badly to act like humans.<br />
|mdetails = [[File:Derpcons_genderfail.gif]]<br>This comic is worse than a failed gender change operation. You are now a horribly disfigured tranny. Manually. No, no I'm serious. Try reading it. Just try to get to the end in one piece. I dare ya.<br />
|overall = [[File:Derpcons_screw.gif]][[File:Derpcons_screw.gif]][[File:Derpcons_screw.gif]][[File:Derpcons_screw.gif]][[File:Derpcons_screw.gif]]<br>The amount of screws lost from the creator's head is inversely proportional to how bad this comic is. I don't think I need to hammer it in, don't I? There's plenty of better comics out there that don't require cliff notes, pie charts and periodic tables.<br />
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[[File:pdhdolltits.png|200px|thumb|right|"Doll tits. Seriously. ... ''Seriously.''"]]<br />
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==Background==<br />
<br />
I started reading this comic years ago, around the time it began. Why? Well, back then I was drawn to its cutesy art style. It's just.. So unassuming and sucks you in like a sand trap. I didn't know who this J.D.R. was, until I found out the 'dirt' behind this chick and oooooh lord is it all making sense now (I'll link those resources later..). Well, even when I read it (back then and now), it starts out simple enough.. You tend to overlook the extra pages of 'info' this chick puts under her comics.. Then.. Slowly.. Things descend into madness as those extras grow and the dialogue consumes the very pages they're written on. It becomes a chore to choke down the bullshit equations, and that's not even the half of it. There's things like weird gay relationships sneaking themselves into an otherwise innocent looking and fluffy sci-fi/superhero extravaganza, sex dolls come to life, and senseless violence.<br />
<br />
Y'know, other people might love to rip this one a new bleeding hole, but to me this story, or should I say concept, is a damn shameful thing to waste. It was an 'ok' concept (like a Saturday Morning cartoon, or cutesy anime crap) buried in <u>'''TOTAL SHIT'''</u>. In fact, this entire story is based on a much simpler "picture story" made for an ancient PC program that would display images and text with sound in a tiny screen theater, and for it's time it was pretty neat (before Flash came along). That story, for what it was worth, really ''was'' the cutesy anime crap, about a doll (just a doll, none of this sex doll bull) coming to life and defeating a (somewhat generic) enemy, with a happy ending. That's it. But nooooooooooo JDR decided to 'expand' upon that and that's where we're leaving off.<br />
<br />
Yes, I do sound rather angry. I got bones to pick. This isn't going to be pretty. But hey, there's cake at the end.<br />
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[[File:pastelheeliotorp1.png|400px|thumb|center|SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP.]]<br />
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==Story and Plot==<br />
<br />
'''WARNING: THIS IS GOING TO BE LONG AND PAINFUL.'''<br />
<br />
Let's say you didn't know about JDR. Let's say you also didn't know about her sites. Let's say you are an average guy/gal that has an average IQ and likes to read "the wonderful world of web comics". You accidentally tripped upon this site and generally 'like' the cutesy pastel colors and gummy designs. Let's just say you have a high tolerance for pain and are pretty open minded.<br />
<br />
You will not last through this comic without a migraine. Get yer fucking booze out, this is going to be the worst and longest acid trip you'll ever take:<br />
<br />
Alright, we start off with the [http://pasteldefender.com/cover.html cover] with an out of place Japanese title (seriously folks, if your comic is in English, and your audience is primarily English, nobody is going to 'get' this) and a.. poorly drawn doll bust of our soon-to-be hero. Fine enough, moving on.. We get some [http://pasteldefender.com/chapter001.html inner workings] of this doll. Eh, that's ok. It's nice to geek out with some background info once in a while. I'm a little perturbed by the, uh, "Pleasure Maiden" bit.. (Keep in mind: the doll company's name is ''Hentaiseiyoku'', which basically translates to sexual perversion.) Then we see the guy that looks like he came out from some other mediocre newspaper comic going to a... [http://pasteldefender.com/001.html Sex shop] (Yes, it's in Japanese. It's official, we are in Weeaboo Land. Anger.. Rising..) to buy the same doll we've been talking about. We find out he's Dr. Aoi, a famous scientist, and we also get our first taste of one of JDR's many made-up cuss words. [http://pasteldefender.com/002.html Majumdered.]<br />
<br />
We are going to play a little game. Take the smallest swig of light booze, or whatever spirits you got for whenever you hear or see something that confuses or pisses you off, or just looks out of place. You will be dead by the end of this review.<br />
<br />
[[File:pastelheeliotorp2.png|thumb|400px|center|Boozonia Galaxy D[34]23-a 15hgadfargeg]]<br />
<br />
So, Aoi runs back home and wallows in [http://pasteldefender.com/004.html self turmoil] for doing some dirty deeds. I would've expect him to do this BEFORE he went out or AFTER he used it, but whatever. Aoi's a giant pussy. We get to see more of JDR's candy coated world, but the magical feeling has already been tainted, and before it wears off.. We get Dr. Aoi and a shit load of words. This is just the beginning. We get a [http://pasteldefender.com/007.html CLASS LECTURE ON BULLSHITONIUM].<br />
<br />
At this point, if you were me, you'd just skip over the words to look at the pretty pictures. Don't be ashamed in doing so, you aren't [http://pasteldefender.com/008.html missing much]. In fact, to keep this review at sane levels (if that's even possible), we're going to skim over a lot of things from now on. We've already gone waaaaay over our limit. But this is JDR. It's a never ending joy ride.<br />
<br />
We then get to see this orange haired.. [http://pasteldefender.com/012.html lady]? Get abused by her.. dad? [http://pasteldefender.com/013.html Oh geez].. Then we get [http://pasteldefender.com/014.html Fuschia], a rather normal looking girl (by this comic's standards) going to church after daydreaming in comics. I'm getting a lot of Mary Sue vibes, but I'm not sure if my radar is broken from all this booze.<br />
<br />
So, Fuschia is a [http://pasteldefender.com/016.html rebel] of.. some sort, and we're supposed to feel sorry for her. Oh hey, more [http://pasteldefender.com/023.html SCIENCE].<br />
<br />
... Geez, this is going nowhere, isn't it? We haven't even got to the point where the [http://pasteldefender.com/025.html sex doll shows up]. Well, long story short, doll comes to life, becomes a Powerpuff Girl, beats up Orange bitch, falls in love with Fuschia and a ton of other crap happens, and in the end merges together (literally), and somehow EVERYBODY DIES as Fuschiatrope lives on forever as '[http://pasteldefender.com/230.html god]'. There, I saved you the pain. Really, did you want to sit through this [http://pasteldefender.com/226.html bull crap]?<br />
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[[File:pastelheeliotorp3.png|thumb|400px|center|SCIENCE MOTHERFUCKERS. REPRESENT.]]<br />
<br />
==Downfall==<br />
<br />
Don't even get me started.. It.. Oh fuck it. Seriously, ''[http://pasteldefender.com/228.html what the hell is all of this?]'' It couldn't just be a fluffy sci-fi beat-em-up and romance? It just had to be a '''clusterfuck''', didn't it?<br />
<br />
[http://pasteldefender.com/231.html Look at this.] Ignore the wapanese and text. Just block those out of your mind if you still have the willpower. Wouldn't this make an adorable children's story? I'm not saying it'd be the ''best story'', but it just.. Y'know what I'm getting at? It steams me. Burns me to a crisp when I see ''somewhat nice'' characters in the hands of a madman who puts them through pages and pages of turmoil. This.. I don't even know what this is. It's high level Rain Man Mind Fuck. No ordinary person is going to enjoy this.<br />
<br />
And, quite frankly, looking at the cutesy art, this is a goddamn shame. It's a bait and switch. You go in expecting a Saturday morning cartoon and instead you get War and Peace, hardcover Extended Edition, slammed into your face. '''''And this is just one of her comics.'''''<br />
<br />
"Now, hold on for one second, Angry Lesbian." You ask as you scold me for all these big mean words. "I kinda like the cute art style and I can follow what these imaginary beings within JDR's head are saying." You say, doubting my review. And I say to you that's ''fine''. You have a high tolerance for pain, you like all the pretty words and "deep meanings", and overlook the obvious Star-Gate-ripoff-isms. Oh, and maybe the female abuse/daddy issues laden about. "Congratulations!" I say, you have passed JDR's secret Transgender Test. Uh, I mean, you are one of the few that doesn't know what a good webcomic is, uh I mean, '''''MOVING ON...'''''<br />
<br />
==Author biography==<br />
<br />
What can I say about this man.. girl.. beast that hasn't been said before? Here are some links to 'enjoy' if your head isn't already reeling from the essay I oozed out:<br />
[http://badwebcomics.blogspot.com/2007/06/pastel-defender-heliotrope.html Pastel Defender Heliotrope review]<br />
[http://badwebcomics.blogspot.com/2007/06/more-pastel-defender-heliotrope.html More about JDR, specially the Kokoro Wish]<br />
[http://badwebcomics.blogspot.com/2007/06/more-jdr-crazy.html JDR CRAZY: Death threat to Solomon]<br />
<br />
So, yeah. All kinds of alarms going off. What do I think? Well, you don't want to know what I think.<br />
... Fuck it, y'know, there's some people who really shouldn't be allowed near art programs. If you want to write out a huge sci-fi ESSAY, do it in TEXT. Y'know, just make a goddamn Jenninomicon. A physics text book of all the quack logic and diagrams. The characters, the story, the art, ''it doesn't fucking matter. '''It's dead. You killed it. You killed it like all the others.'''''<br />
<br />
Oh my god.. I'm turning into her.. No.. NOOOOOOOoooo. Just three more sections Angry Lesbian.. You can do this. You can get this done with whatever brain cells left behind. There's cake at the end. You like cake, right? Aha. Ahahah..<br />
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[[File:pastelheeliotorp5.png|thumb|400px|center|Heliotrope wishes she was in a better story. Silly doll, there's no galaxy equation for that.]]<br />
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==Art review==<br />
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[[File:pdhstinkindrunk.png|thumb|200px|right|"No I'm not apologizing for the lack of actual JDR images. I want you to suffer by actually visiting the links. ''It's that bad.''"]]<br />
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I've been giving JDR much too much credit for this. It's.. charming at first. But incredibly mushy as <del>time goes on</del> always. Have I mentioned how the art '''''TOTALLY DOES NOT FIT ALL THIS WORDY BULLSHIT?''' No? ''Well, now you know.''<br />
<br />
I'm going to probably get the same complaints as I did with people actually 'getting' this magnum opus. And I say bull. ''Bull to you this time.'' You might as well have stick figures with mile long word balloons, ''it doesn't match.'' A good story (and this isn't) needs good art that compliments it. Oh, sure, those charts sure do look pretty sometimes, but it's a moot point. That's like sticking flowers on a toilet. Now you have a pretty toilet. Good for you.<br />
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What would I do to make it better (and I was held at gun point and being told I couldn't change the text)? Alright, first I'd moody this shit up to the max. Give em more realistic bodies and thick outlines. Make a dedicated space for all this word crap. At least that'd be one step towards getting a nerdy audience (who'd probably want their art as serious as their algorithms) this comic deserves. It's almost mocking me on how ''it completely doesn't fucking match ''the seriousness of the ham-handed heavy story.'''''<br />
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Wait, [http://pasteldefender.com/147.html this might work].. Still mushy tho.<br />
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'''''I took it upon myself to see if I can try better (with no color) after seeing Norad's noble attempts in his own reviews. It's not much. (huge image warning)'''''<br />
<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable" style="width:600px">[[File:pastelpuppies.png|thumb|900px|center|''Nothing can save the verbose lectures or story. Sorry. I'm an artist, not a miracle worker.'']]</div><br />
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==Writing review==<br />
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I.. I can't. I just can't. What could possibly be said that hasn't already reared its ugly head in the previous sections? .. No. No you can't make me. I won't.. I won't..<br />
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Oh my lord, I swear this man-beast hasn't spoken to another living being that isn't a clone of her/him/it. I bet the two other beasts she leeches off of are exactly alike. Like robot hobbits. There's just something so incredibly awkward about the writing, ''on top of the graphic charts,'' that's like a one-two sucker punch. Who, ''really'', who talks like this? As much as I hate to attack the person behind this wreck (really, I'm a firm believer that the comics and art don't directly represent the artist. I'm hoping this is work spawned from crackpot dreams), but I could swear there's some high level autism shut-in at work here. And the scary thing is, I could be ''right.'' Look, I won't blame ya for that JDR. Can't help those things. But at least try to get out more often. Oh forget it, I'm not playing psychiatrist. pfft.<br />
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Emotions? Who needs em?! Pfft! Let's have characters have [http://pasteldefender.com/009.html sudden malfunctions]. Let's have them say all of this [http://pasteldefender.com/228.html monologue]. It's okay! Someone out there will get it! My dolls will do the work for me! They will let people know about my creations! That's all that matters! ''Science!'' Humans suck ''(and religion too! Oh, and don't forget my abusive dad!)'' Even though they created science.. Humans.. Creating Scie-<br />
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<b>*SYSTEM MALFUNCTION*<br />
*REBOOTING ANGRY LESBIAN ALGORITHMS*</b><br />
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Wait, where am I? Oh crap I gotta review JDR's comi-.. Hey, cool, someone did it for me. Conclusion? CRAP.<br />
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==Conclusion==<br />
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Uh.. JDR is a loon.<br />
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Cake? What cake?<br />
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[[File:pastelheeliotorp4.png|thumb|400px|center|Fatty like cake.]]<br />
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==Other Comics by this Author that have been Reviewed on our Site==<br />
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*[[Unicorn Jelly]]<br />
*[[To Save Her]]<br />
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==Links==<br />
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In case you missed them, here's the previous reviews, plus some extra.<br />
* [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.se/Jennifer_Diane_Reitz Encyclopedia Dramatica's article on JDR]<br />
* [http://friends.portalofevil.com/sfs.php?si=3&fi=000016856 Kokoro Wish, on Portal of Evil]<br />
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[[Category:Concluded]]<br />
[[Category:Webcomics]]</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Carnivores&diff=10723Carnivores2015-01-15T05:45:19Z<p>DentsAndDings: /* Author biography */</p>
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|'''Original review author:'''<br />
|[[User:Truthfulpietro|Truthfulpietro]]<br />
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|'''Webcomic name:'''<br />
|[http://carnivores.comicgenesis.com/ Carnivores]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Author:'''<br />
|[http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Austin_Wolfclaw Austin Wolfclaw] AKA Michael Basel (according to his Furaffinity Account)<br />
|-<br />
|'''Start Date:'''<br />
|[http://carnivores.comicgenesis.com/d/20021223.html December 23, 2002]<br />
|-<br />
|'''End Date:'''<br />
|"Ongoing"<br />
|-<br />
|'''Genre:'''<br />
|Comedy, Furry, Vore (Fetish)<br />
|-<br />
|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
|Horrible artwork. Vore is mixed with poor writing. <br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Art:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
Compared to virtually every other Vore artist out there, ''Carnivores'' is, without a doubt the rock bottom. Has tried various styles but has done nothing right.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
About 18 Story Arcs of which some feel pointless, even by Vore comic standards.<br />
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|'''Characters:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
None of the characters have any memorable personalities or traits.<br />
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|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
It gets really disgusting, if not flat out insulting to the reader if you continue to read.<br />
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|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
Feels like a perfect masterclass in how you shouldn't write a vore comic of any kind.<br />
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===Background===<br />
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[[File:CarnivoresImage3.JPG|thumb|right|600px]]<br />
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Among the reasons that Furs are sometimes hated for is the subject of vorarephilia, or Vore for short. To define "Vore" it is a sexual fetish that involves arousal from the idea of being eaten or by the process of eating. There are several kinds of Vore scenarios but they commonly fall upon two subjects: Soft Vore which is being swallowed whole, and Hard Vore which means tearing the prey apart and eating it piece by piece. Its no doubt a very disturbing fetish that can scare the uninitiated away.<br />
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However, there are plenty of people out there who draw stuff like this and get cult followings. This helps due to a combination of well crafted artwork, basic yet plausible vore scenarios and characters, be they predator or prey, that are unique to each artist. All this and little extras such as subtle humor and backstories of the characters and the places they live in to create a more interesting world would create a significant amount of traffic and fans. You would think that its impossible to screw up this formula, but its actually very much possible to screw it up and create something that fails on every level its trying to advertise itself as even a vore comic and that's what ''Carnivores'' is.<br />
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===Downfall===<br />
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The comic's first page gives an example of what's to come: What we see is a small kid introducing ''Carnivores'' [http://carnivores.comicgenesis.com/d/20021223.html before getting mauled and eaten by a Tiger, a Wolf and a Lion. They then tell Santa to put them on their naughty list.] That is a sign of things to come with this comic.<br />
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===Story and Plot===<br />
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''Carnivores'' has about 18 story arcs. None of them are really organized resulting in certain story arcs that are connected with each other in any way will in much further in the comic then they should be. Each one of them is summed up in these sentences:<br />
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The First one is a group of animals, which consists of a Tiger named Tugrik, a Lion called Tolstoy, a Bear called Kumar, a pack of 6 wolves called "The Skylar Pack", which consists of Kitso, Matuna, Kyle, Cheri, Oswald and Redwall. Lastly a Raptor named Raptavia. They are out to set a Guinness World Record as "Most People Devoured By A Group Of Animals".<br />
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Second is "Tolstoy Vs Tolstoy", where he meets a large bear that shares his name.<br />
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Third is "Sharky" and it follows a great-white shark, who eats someone, leaving his head in the process, he then realizes that the Shark Kippers are back. the shark gets abducted by the Bermuda Triangle. He then stumbles into a swimming pool where he is eaten by a 60-foot snake.<br />
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Fourth arc is "16-bit Theatre" and its where ''Carnivores'' becomes a sprite comic. It stars Austin Wolfclaw himself. Everything I say, I'm not making it up: Montecure eats Austin, then gets teleported into space, where he gets picked up by Goku who uses instant transmission to bring him to Africa and leaves him there, where Montecure loses his meal to Hyenas. He then turns into Super Tiger Montecure then, after eating one of them he lures himself into an ambush by one of them that he breaks out of and eats the rest, then gets teleported back to where we started where we would see Goku, Bulma and other characters that I don't know nor care about.<br />
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Fifth arc is "Big Bad Bear", which it involves a Bear meeting Hopscotch the bunny and Foxyfluff the fox.<br />
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Sixth arc is "Lothan can't say No". This arc is about a boy named Lothan who is cursed to apparently what ''Carnivores'' fans can vote to Lothan's Fate. This is where things get really disgusting and ludicrously stupid.<br />
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Seventh arc is "What goes on in Real Life". It features Austin Wolfclaw himself.<br />
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Eighth Arc is "The Return of Raptavia". It is basically Raptavia getting revenge on Tolstoy for eating her at the first arc.<br />
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Ninth Arc is called "The Run" it's some sort of Doctor Who parody, where Austin and someone called "The Doctor" have arrived at an event called "The Run" where criminals are placed there to be eaten by predators for charity. However, because 2 of them committed suicide before the event could take place, Austin and "The Doctor" become unwilling participants and therefore have to get to the TARDIS while avoiding the predators.<br />
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Tenth Arc is called "Ratefan's Endeavers". A character called Ratefan has been given the task of rescuing a farmer's daughter. Its actually based on Austin Wolfclaw's own mod on ''Everquest II''.<br />
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Eleventh Arc is called "Maul" and this is where it goes from stupid to downright insulting.<br />
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Twelfth Arc is called "Macro and Micro" a war has been declared between the Macros and the Micros after one of them [http://carnivores.comicgenesis.com/d/20070901.html tosses a bus onto a bridge that was, apparently, under construction]. Or that's what's assumed at first then it turns out it was because of the [http://carnivores.comicgenesis.com/d/20071020.html First "Annual Macro Has Bash" which she opposes.]<br />
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[[File:20141108.png|thumb|center|700px|The characters should all drink hemlock instead, and make the Internet a better place.]]<br />
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===Art review===<br />
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[[File:CarnivoresImage1.JPG|thumb|right|200px]]<br />
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The first and foremost thing to make a vore comic is competent artwork, but ''Carnivores'' is a failure of incredible proportions.<br />
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Compared to highly regarded artists such as [http://aryion.com/g4/user/Strega Strega], [http://aryion.com/g4/user/Omega Omega] and [http://aryion.com/g4/user/ForcesWerwolf ForcesWerwolf] to much less admired authors such as [[Mamabliss]] and Shaun Reveal of [[Boston and Shaun]], ''Carnivores'' is without a doubt the absolute Rock Bottom of the barrel of artistic talent I've ever seen. ''Carnivores'' uses whats known as "Painter Shop Pro" but Austin doesn't seem to know how to draw a character with it. When a non-anthro character faces the camera of the comic, sometimes the [http://carnivores.comicgenesis.com/d/20030124.html back legs aren't seen as if they are standing on two legs], when they should be standing on four. Then there's inconsistency with faces when they are turned to the sides, for instance this [http://carnivores.comicgenesis.com/d/20050326.html Bear's nose seems to change length between panels despite the fact that he never moves a muscle from his position].<br />
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Also Austin is indecisive about how to put dialog in the comic. At first he seems to put [http://carnivores.comicgenesis.com/d/20030110.html different colored text for each character]. This doesn't seem bad at first but on occasions the text can be on multiple different colored backgrounds, which can clang with your eyes. Also he at one time [http://carnivores.comicgenesis.com/d/20050115.html puts brown text on a black background which makes it very difficult to read.]<br />
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To hit the final nail in the coffin, keep in mind that the comic has started on December 2002 and it has been over 8 years and the quality has not improved since then.<br />
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===Writing review===<br />
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[[File:CarnivoresImage4.gif|thumb|left|100px|''' ''HNNNNG!'' ''']]<br />
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The purpose of a vore comic is to produce a situation where a predator would eat a prey to provide an arousing situation: ''Carnivores'' at first tries to be that, and not just with hard and soft vore but also [http://carnivores.comicgenesis.com/d/20070701.html soul vore] and macro and micro. As its established that the artwork is bad, it can't succeed in that since no one in their right mind would be aroused by any of the vore situations in this comic. <br />
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But even if you were to persevere and venture forth into the comic's story arcs, you will find things that will make your jaw drop and I don't mean in a positive way. To pick a random example, Arc Sixteen starts of with [http://carnivores.comicgenesis.com/d/20100102.html a mouse being swallowed by a cat, however the mouse uses extremely hot curry to escape, followed by an advert parody of a curry for mice to use to keep them from being eaten]. All very well as humor until the next five pages where we learn that the [http://carnivores.comicgenesis.com/d/20100109.html mouse didn't want to be eaten because his wife was in labor, then we see a hospital for mice]. The cat then [http://carnivores.comicgenesis.com/d/20100116.html immediately eats everyone there before the mouse could tell them they have contagious diseases] and the cat [http://carnivores.comicgenesis.com/d/20100130.html dies of multiple illnesses] as a result, [http://carnivores.comicgenesis.com/d/20100206.html only to be revived and transformed into Tony the Tiger]. That wasn't even the first time that happened and it wouldn't be the last.<br />
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===Author biography===<br />
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According to his [http://carnivores.comicgenesis.com/about.html about me] page on [[Carnivores]] and what's on the [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Austin_Wolfclaw Wikifur page], which BTW was not firstly created by him: Austin Wolfclaw, (AKA Michael Basel) was born September 14, 1980, enjoys seeing animals and humans being mauled to death by predators, and ''Carnivores'' is the second comic that he has drawn. What's the first? At first he didn't say, but now he reveals that he called it "Chester". I can't seem to find any details about that comic right now. All I know is for certain is that it seemed to be like ''Garfield'' with vore, he says that it was retired in 2002.<br />
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He originally said that there is more info on ''Carnivores'' on the Comic Genesis Wiki, a quick search there revealed nothing. He now said that there is more info on the ''Carnivores'' Wiki on CG Wiki. However, a quick Google search around this claim reveals nothing again. <br />
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Austin has also given more info [http://www.furnation.com/austinwolfclaw/about.html here]; It tells us what he is using, at least.<br />
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Austin Wolfclaw has also a [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/austinwolfclaw FurAffinity account], which lists all of his other accounts including [http://twitter.com/austinwolfclaw Twitter], etc: He probably has accounts on various formats both well known and obscure. Just search his name under what you may have an account for, he may be there.<br />
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Austin has acknowledged his Webcomic's page on here on his [http://carnivores.comicgenesis.com/links.html Links] page, with another from the [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Portal_of_Evil Portal of Evil], which is now a dead link. He says he posts it for the "lolz".<br />
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===Conclusion===<br />
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This is how I felt after reading this comic:<br><br />
[[File:CarnivoresImage2.JPG]]<br />
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If anything, ''Carnivores'' provides is a lesson in what you shouldn't do when you make a vore comic.<br />
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===Links===<br />
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* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/strikersa/ This person who makes non-fatal plant vore mixed with tentacle porn] - proves that by just using MS Paint and Photoshop you can at least make something passable.<br />
[[Category:Webcomics]]</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Shortpacked!&diff=7439Shortpacked!2014-03-19T07:59:49Z<p>DentsAndDings: learn some fucking grammar</p>
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Original review author:'''<br />
|[[User:Plarblman|Plarblman]]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Webcomic name:'''<br />
|[http://www.shortpacked.com/ Shortpacked!]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Author:'''<br />
|David "Walky" Willis<br />
|-<br />
|'''Start Date:'''<br />
|January 17, 2005<br />
|-<br />
|'''End Date:'''<br />
|2014-ish<br />
|-<br />
|'''Genre:'''<br />
|<strike>Comedy</strike> Drama<br />
|-<br />
|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
|Willis's poor handling of criticism & differing opinions permeates through the entire comic.<br />
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|'''Art:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
Passable. It works well enough but there's some anatomy failures here and there.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
Between the many, ''many'' filler strips, the story is either boring, nonsensical, or flat out stupid.<br />
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|'''Characters:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
Almost all of the characters are unlikable for one reason or another.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
Strawmen as far as the eye can see.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
Only someone with Willis's exact same interests and opinions would find this comic enjoyable.<br />
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==Background==<br />
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I'll admit, ''Shortpacked!'' is not something I'd normally look into on my own. It's a bland, haphazardly comedic, autobiographical slice-of-life comic with less focus on plot and more on character relationships, with a heavy dependence on pop culture nostalgia. It wasn't until I started seeing some specific comic strips being passed around the internet for use in internet arguments that got me interested (read below). Eventually I learned that the comic had a reputation for the writer using strawmen in the comic in order to win arguments against his intellectual opponents. What finally convinced me to write a review was when Willis started making a porno version of his comic, while having some pretty odd arguments with his readers. I figured, with the comic about to be completed within the year, now was the time to strike while the iron is hot. <br />
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==Downfall==<br />
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[[File:False equivalence.jpg|thumb|right|600px|One look at Amazon books and this argument falls apart.]] This was a hard choice, because there was no singular moment where the comic obviously went from good to bad. It started out mediocre, and then slowly & progressively got worse. However, there were many major milestones along the way, but if I had to pick one, it would be the "[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1556 False Equivalence]" strip. While the comic had already been deeply mired in inept writing, I would call this the point of no return. Basically, it's one of the strips where Willis gets to have an argument (and win) against a customer over a particular issue. In this case:<br />
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# Customer claims male superheros are objectified too because they have just as impossible anatomy as female superheroes.<br />
# Amber claims that's a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence false comparison] because male superheroes represent a "male power fantasy," going the extra mile to claim women don't actually find big muscles attractive.<br />
# Amber proves her point by drawing what a male superhero would look like if drawn to appeal to "a female such as myself".<br />
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The problem here is that A) Willis is making the claim that women (heavily implied most if not all) prefer a certain body type. Pay close attention to the language used here. It's not some women, it's "a female such as myself", which suggests a blanket generalization. B) Willis, who is in fact not a woman, is trying to speak on behalf of what women as a group actually think. C) Willis directly contradicts a [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=225 previous strip] in which he says not to speak for group of people as a whole. D) [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1907 Amber herself] ends up contradicting the strip by drawing a batman with big muscles and a big dong. E) It's actually not a false equivalence. Power fantasy or not, no straight man is interested in close-up shots of half-naked muscular men in spandex that leave very little to the imagination. It's still a hyper-idealized bodily physique, and women can still find it attractive. Why do you think men want muscles in the first place? F) The idea that women don't objectify men is blatantly false. One look at [http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=lp_283155_nr_n_23?rh=n%3A283155%2Cn%3A%211000%2Cn%3A23&bbn=1000&ie=UTF8&qid=1393104312&rnid=1000 any romance novel cover] (a genre written by women for women) shows half-naked men with ripped abs and huge pecs.<br />
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Of all the possible milestones, I think this one is possibly the worst. See, this is more than just a particularly bad strawman strip; around this time, Willis discovered Tumblr. Tumblr, for those of you unfamiliar with the site, is a blogging platform known for its "reblogging" feature. Rather unintentionally, this feature led to the development of echo chambers where entire communities can shut themselves off from outside opinions via blocking reblogs from specific people. This strip ended up getting 60k + notes on tumblr and became the go-to reference for internet feminists with too much time on their hands to fight for issues that actually matter in real life. From that point onward, it became increasingly clear that Willis had become lockstep with tumblr's growing social justice community, considering he eventually started using terms that exist nowhere else like "[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1994 homoromantic transchassis asexual]", automatically [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1947 equates fedoras to Men's Rights Activists] without any other connecting thread (which is something I'm never going to understand. Last week it was a brony stereotype, and an atheist stereotype the week before, next week it'll be Hasbro collectors), and that the strawman strips became increasingly political, particularly in the area of gender rights. Now that the social media site has a firm hold of him, there's very little chance of the comic ever improving now that he's found an audience that is not only forever growing, but will also actively shield him from criticism.<br />
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==Characters==<br />
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Normally this would be under writing or story, but considering the length of those two sections (and the fact that the story revolves more around the characters than the plot), I'm going to briefly cover the main characters.<br />
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<u>'''Ethan'''</u> - he's the protagonist; at least initially, before he eventually quits working at the toy shop and is replaced by Ken. He has a weird obsession with making batman funny and attempts to be a "[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=505 pop culture comedian]" (read: he wants to make a lot of nerd jokes that only the most obsessive fantards will get). He has a severe addiction to collecting toys, to the point that it jeopardized one of his relationships. The other characters like to joke he's gay because he won't notice Robin until, uh oh, he actually is gay! Also, he gets into arguments with the strangely adult patrons of the store over transformers (among many, ''many'' other things).<br />
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<u>'''Galasso'''</u> - the store's owner. He runs the store like a cartoon villain ([http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=394 no, really]) by coming up with evil schemes to increase revenue, from creating controversy to drum up sales to selling warranties - sorry, "Customer Protection Rackets".<br />
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<u>'''Robin'''</u> - the free-spirit "lolrandom!" girl who originally had the hots for Ethan until they both realized they were gay. Yes. Both of them. She's also a complete spaz with an [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=164 addiction to chaos]. Oh, and apparently her job before the store was [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=593 being an alien-mutated war hero]. Her superpowers are never really used though, except to birth triplets in less than a month.<br />
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<u>'''Amber'''</u> - the introverted customer service girl who starts out as a shut-in on the internet, but then she manages to blackmail the store's resident asshole into marrying her. And for the record, that's exactly how the cast bio describes her. Apparently all it takes to earn confidence is to [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=198 work in public in your underwear.] Her alter ego is Amazi-girl, and her superpower is [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=553 immunity to criticism]. She eventually disappears from the comic and is replaced primarily by Lucy.<br />
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<u>'''Faz'''</u> - an obnoxious (deliberately) seasonal employee who wants to kick Ethan out and date Amber. I guess being obnoxious means not talking [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=194 like any human being] would ever talk. [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1267 Turns out he's actually Amber's half-brother], which unfortunately doesn't stop him from [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1633 including her] in his creepy fetishes.<br />
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<u>'''Mike'''</u> - An asshole (also deliberately) whose shtick is to be the adult equivalent of a [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=546 90's TV show school bully], who exists solely to cause others pain. He even outright states [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=933 he's a sociopath]. Also he's [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=917 secretly incredibly nice when he's drunk]. Because that's how happy drunks work. Apparently the reason he's an asshole is because [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1032 his parents are the Stepfords].<br />
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<u>'''Leslie'''</u> - Robin's girlfriend, who she consistently refers to as "Lesbian". Originally Robin used her in an attempt to get Ethan jealous, when that didn't work she kept her around as a [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=768 thankless slave.] Also, her full name is "Leslie Bean". The comic never takes advantage of this obvious pun, though, making the joke completely pointless.<br />
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<u>'''Ultracar'''</u> - a sentient car and friend of Robin's from before she started working as a stockroom clerk at the store. [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=612 Hates humans] and [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=619 scalps merchandise], later [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1830 inexplicably] becomes a girl that inexplicably has a relationship with easily the bitchiest girl in the comic.<br />
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<u>'''Roz'''</u> - Robin's camwhore sister. She likes to claim [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=949 she's more annoying], [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=950 but honestly] it's [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=961 hard to tell]. Her only contribution to the comic is to stir up shit with her vagina.<br />
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<u>'''Jacob'''</u> - A comic book nerd who seems fairly well grounded (compared to everyone else, anyway). Naturally this means [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=993 he must be enemies with Ethan]. He's a rare straighty, but he's also a [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1108 recovering sex addict].<br />
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<u>'''Ken'''</u> - Asian guy hired to up the store's Asian quota. He's completely [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1420 disregarded in the comic] until Ethan leaves and he [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1652 pretty much] [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1876 replaces him]. Unfortunately, Ken is even more uninteresting than Ethan, in that he has virtually no existence outside the store or a personal life. [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1689 Has a crush on Malaya] even though she hates everyone.<br />
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<u>'''Malaya'''</u> - Asian girl hired to up the store's Asian quota. [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1422 She's a bitch]. And not even her dating Ultracar really changes that. (For the record, if you're wondering why she's dating a car, [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1834 your guess is as good as mine]) Apparently she's only nice to someone if [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1426 she can fuck them]. [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1535 Or if they can be assholes together]. [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1602 But sometimes even that doesn't stop her.] Now, you may be thinking, "Well Mike's an asshole too, what's the difference?" The difference is that while the comic admits Mike is an asshole and his relationship with Amber is, while fucked up, semi-plausible. however, the tries to pass of Malaya as "willful" and "headstrong".<br />
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<u>'''Jesus'''</u> - No, this isn't one of those "Hispanic guys named Jesus pun" type thing. This is the real Jesus. No, wait, "[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1604 Historical Jesus]". That's his real full name (I have no idea why, probably some pretentious reason). Galasso brought him back and made him work at the store. Why? Because drama sells, dammit! But because he doesn't look like Bible Jesus, Robin makes him wear a blue sash. And like everyone else, [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1610 Willis makes him an asshole.] Whether or not you personally like the guy, I think we can all agree that Willis just sucks at making relatable characters. Naturally, Leslie [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1609 becomes his sworn enemy] because she's a militant Lesbian.<br />
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<u>'''Lucy'''</u> - Likes superheros from cartoons, hates their comic book versions. She's basically become Amber's replacement ([http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1900 and that's not just me saying that]) as she wants to proselytize why her versions of characters [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1729 should be preached to little girls]. Too bad the only customers in this store are man-children. She even becomes [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1930 the new Amazi-Girl.] She is otherwise unnecessary and adds nothing to the comic.<br />
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==Story and Plot==<br />
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Never have I seen a comic that simultaneously has so much and yet so little going on. There's lots of short story arcs that don't really have that much of an impact, and loads of unimportant one-off strips, so I'll try and condense this section as much as possible.<br />
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It becomes obvious by [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=8 page 8] that the reason it's set in a toy store is because Willis wants to gush on his own personal sense of nostalgia, specifically Transformers and other 1980s merchandise. Why else would a toy store bring back Rainbow Brite when A) no kid today's ever heard of her, and B) never had that significant a following when it was popular? It's also the "perfect" segway to talk about pop culture stuff he cares about; at least it's better than Ethan's stand-up comedy idea. Galasso tries to sell "[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=27 customer protection rackets]", which while silly at first, eventually gets blown into a big deal. Because toy store warranties are serious business. Robin, who's going insane with boredom, rips out the comic's "Drama tag", thereby [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=166 causing Amber's abusive father to show up,] as well as "love pentagons and [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=169 other super horrible secrets]". Robin handles this by [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=171 forcing the comic] to be "funny" again. Which is actually quite telling why her character is the only member of the original cast not to be replaced. Then a robber shows up and shoots Robin, who was dressed as Batman - oh wait, it was just a dream. [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=177 Except no it wasn't!] SUCH DRAMA!<br />
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Next, Robin decides to have some Cadberry Egg cereal (this is actually a reoccurring plot point), which [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=216 somehow causes her to be a congresswoman]. This never has any real impact because Robin is never in congress unless it's convenient for the plot - such as writing a law forcing [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=600 two men to hatefuck]. Robin's heart gets doubly crushed when 1. Ethan sleeps with a hot chick who isn't her, and 2. finds out he's actually gay. Robin responds by [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=309 blackmailing Ethan into dating her.] This will become a theme later on. When that fails, she decides to get back at Ethan by turning lesbian. And wouldn't you know it, [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=364 she found one!] Who she consistently refers to as "lebsian". Of course everyone [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=367 sees through the charade], but it turns out that girl will in fact be her future lover and woman-father of her child. I'll explain this later. <br />
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Galasso tries to force a merger with Toys R Us using a [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=393 "Tome of the Ages"] proclaiming Ethan as "The Second Eaton", but it all falls apart when Ethan tells Galasso he can't produce an heir because he's gay. And he rightfully gets fired. Not because he's gay (Galasso [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=399 literally doesn't even understand the meaning of the word]), but because he had sex to get his promotion. And he still thinks [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=411 he's the one in the right,] going so far as to call Amber "the shittiest person in paradise" over something completely outside her control. Unless he's mad at her for [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=415 buying into this ridiculous scheme]. If so, does that make this a metaphor for religion? Because it's one of the stupidest, most ham-fisted ones I've ever seen.<br />
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Anyway, Amber nuts up to stand up to Faz, getting Ethan his job back. Some filler later, Ultracar appears. He hates humans and scalps toys. That is the sole purpose of his character until later. Amber and Ethan flashback to when they first met (which Robin objects to because she doesn't want the funny to die - too late), where we finally find out that Amber's Dad [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=519 works for the Korean Mob]. Also, the two turned down a job at a bakery where they would be [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=522 getting laid every night] because they'd rather feed their obsession for toys. It's especially bad when you try to help your friend escape from her controlling father by getting her a job [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=529 with a controlling boss].<br />
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Because the economy is shit, Galasso threatens to fire all of the employees, so they throw him in a cage and [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=819 taunt him] about how they're making money without him. But they're interrupted by a [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=820 coup from the seasonal employees], where they try to get the store shut down because they left a box of lead in the store (because a box of lead is the same as lead-painted toys). Fortunately, [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=829 spider-car] saves the day. Even more unfortunately, [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=886 Galasso escapes] and fires everyone because Robin [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=881 wanted a deatmatch] to determine the new manager. Leslie is fed up with being Robin's buttmonkey, but apparently [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=896 Ronald Reagan] of all people convinces Robin to hook up with her even though it was clearly a one-sided relationship and she showed no real interest in her up to this point. <br />
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Speaking of one-sided relationships, Amber [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=919 blackmails Mike] into dating her even though he's a jerk 99.9% of the time (the 0.1% is when he's drunk) and should have no reason to like him. I guess it really isn't that surprising, though, considering she turned out to be [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=927 just as much of an asshole as he is]. [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=947 Then Roz], [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=948 Robin's slutty](er) sister shows up. Apparently Roz's main contribution to the story is make [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=952 Robin jealous]. Because that's the solid start to a(nother) sham relationship.<br />
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Shortpacked is still closing though, so to revive it they remake it into a "[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=959 pop culture megastore]". Basically, manchild depot. New employee, Jacob, joins the staff. Amber and Mike go [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1030 visit Mike's parents in New York], and while she's questioning whether she should continue this sham relationship (she shouldn't), a [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1039 giant mutant bun] suddenly appears, which Mike fights by grabbing a giant slab of concrete and throwing it. OK. Now he's got superpowers. When he gets stuck, [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1044 Amazi-girl] shows up to try to help (despite her only superpower being immunity to criticism.) Mike still manages to kill the bun, then the comic [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1049 tries to convince us] that the sham relationship isn't actually a sham.<br />
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Ethan's standup act works when he [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1069 drops the nerd inside jokes] and tells jokes that normal people actually finds funny. Roz shows up again to try and fuck Jacob, which eventually results in him falling off the wagon. Which wouldn't be nearly as bad if she wasn't so [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1259 high and mighty about it], belittling what is obviously [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1300 a real personal issue] of his.<br />
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Robin eats another Cadbury egg cereal to try and solve the world's problems, blacks out, and [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1349 causes world peace], but simultaneously [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1353 cheats on Leslie]. Oh, and that world peace thing [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1425 only lasted four weeks]. So, basically nobody tried to kill each other for a month. Great progress. Also, Mike and Amber get married when Mike "proposes" to her by telling her [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1499 he made Jacob fuck her mom]. He even recorded it. He's such a keeper, that one.<br />
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[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1604 Galasso brings back Jesus to flirt with controversy]. Oh Joy. Naturally, that controversy being Leslie wants to punch him because her parents are homophobes. Eventually, [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1770 Leslie wants to get back with Robin], but she starts dating her former mentor Joe. So to get Robin back, she has to open an interdimensional portal to get Joe's old girlfriend back. Which results in some really stupid bullshit over the drama tag again. Ultra Car becomes a female robot (for no good reason), and Malaya [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1839 starts dating her] (also for no good reason).<br />
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Leslie and Robin want kids, but because Robin was abducted by aliens and has a super-fast metabolism, [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=2002 she can poop out a baby in three weeks]. Even putting aside all the [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=2022 ridiculous sci-fi contrivance], considering [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=2021 this is Robin] we're talking about, she's such an irresponsible parent that she has to foist her kids onto equally if not more irresponsible housemates. [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=2023 One of which hates humans as a species] and another who is simply a hardcore misanthrope. And... that's as far as I got as of the writing of this review. I may add something once the comic concludes, particularly if it ends poorly.<br />
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==Art review==<br />
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The art is, for the most part, OK. It's serviceable and admittedly decent for a cartoon. That said, every once in a while there's some glaring anatomy failures, ranging from crossed eyes, to [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=2016 awkward mouths], to [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1341 whatever the fuck this is]. [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1747 This poor girl] looks like her eyeballs are melting out of their sockets. Also every once in a while, the art is [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=285 just lazy] for [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=2004 various reasons]. Willis admits to having a strange inability to draw faces facing to the right. There's a strange design choice where some characters only have black dots for eyes, but sometimes the have [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1076 eye whites] as well for no discernible reason. Maybe it's because without them, when they're looking to the side they look like asymmetric mutants. Wouldn't it be simpler just to stick with normal sized eyes for everyone?<br />
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==Writing review== <br />
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Bear with me here, folks, because we're going to have a lot of ground to cover. I've done my best to categorize the most glaring flaws of the comic for a comprehensive breakdown of each problem.<br />
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===Strawmen===<br />
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First thing we should get out of the way is the topic of strawmen, which is pretty unavoidable since [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1820 the comic itself] brings it up from time to time (for the record Willis, yes, that is in fact a strawman argument since you're making the claim that your detractors keep using it wrong). Now, what is a strawman? Well, according to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman wikipedia], it is a type of logical fallacy in which the arguer misrepresents the position of the other person in order to make it easier to refute. Here's a simple example: <br />
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A: Sunny days are good.<br />
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B: If all days were sunny, we'd never have rain, and without rain, we'd have famine and death.<br />
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How is the comic guilty of this? Well, the employees (usually Ethan) frequently get into arguments with customers over comics/toys/politics. In virtually every case, the customer is always wrong, and the employee is always right. This is accomplished because the customer's argument is typically constructed to be [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1863 superficial], [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1949 overly-simplistic], [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1597 childish], or [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1852 outright stupid], behaving in ways [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1669 no human being ever would]. [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1681 Not even his own readers are safe]. Now, I'm not saying it's impossible for someone to be like that, but the comic very clearly states that they are always, ''[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=610 always]'' the [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=468 irrational] ones, [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=466 without any exaggeration]. Here, the strawman is basically a misrepresentation of whoever Willis happens to disagree with a certain issue. Now, for whatever reason, Willis decided to upload some 4chan edits of his strips, and then we see what kind of arguments a non-strawman customer may make. We actually get to see the [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1357 perspective] of [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1359 the other side for once], represented truthfully. One even points out how Willis [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1361 fails to see] how he can be guilty of the same behaviors.<br />
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In these strips, Willis creates for himself an opponent that he can always defeat, so that he is always right. Now, even if you're not interested in toys or superheroes (which is the case for me), these strips can be really grating because it's quite obvious that the writer is simply stroking his own ego. We get some [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=464 token] humility every now and then, but it never has anything to do with these arguments. There's nothing more irritating than a self-righteous writer who is willfully blind to their own biases.<br />
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===Humor===<br />
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[[File:Pg2009.png|thumb|400px|left|We are expected to take these characters seriously.]]<br />
At least in its early phase, before the comic was mired by drama, there were [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=189 decent] [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1085 humor strips] that [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=323 made me laugh]. Even the [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=618 batman] jokes, which usually consist of nothing more than Batman standing around saying [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=326 "I'm Batman"], made me giggle. <br />
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But for every strip that made me laugh, there's ten that either made my head scratch at the punchline, or [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=31 simply did not work]. And all too many of them require you to be familiar with obscure 80's and 90's shows & [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=539 commercials]. There's even a strip where Willis straight-up steals the infamous [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=23 Sideshow Bob hoe rake scene]. [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1338 The Office Space] scene is arguably worse though because in context it makes no sense. See, in the original scene, they destroyed the fax machine because it was a worthless and frustrating piece of equipment. Here... it's a fucking toy. It's never going to resonate on the same level. Most of the audience is going to be alienated because they're not going to be able to relate to it. If you weren't raised on Hasbro products, half of the filler strips are going to go right over your head.<br />
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[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=746 There's] [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=747 four] [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=748 strips] [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=749 in a row] where the comic attempts a running gag; the problem though is that it's a pretty weak punchline to begin with, and the comic never attempts to make the joke evolve. Now, here's an [http://explosm.net/comics/2195/ example] of a [http://explosm.net/comics/2205/ running gag] [http://explosm.net/comics/2209/ done right]. You see how the joke becomes more funny each time because each iteration takes it to a new level, and the punchline evolves over time.<br />
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===Comedy vs. Drama===<br />
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Early on in the comic, Robin pulls out the "drama tag", which results in, well, drama. I think this plot point in itself shows just how poorly the two match up. See, the comic is, for the most part, supposed to be a comedy (whether it's a successful comedy is another matter), but Willis decided that his one-dimensional characters needed depth and complex relationships. This doesn't work well because the zany slapstick is still in there, and the two mesh together very poorly. Now, I'm not saying the two can't exist within a story, but it has to be done right. Let me give you an example: The Sean Connery James Bond films are usually lauded as well-written films because they're serious movies with comedic undertones. The Roger Moore James Bond films, by comparison, were more like comedies with serious undertones trying to pass themselves off as serious films. Sean Connery might've had the most clever Bond one-liners, but Roger Moore's hammy ones cemented it into a cheesy joke. It's why when we see Bond dressed up like a clown trying to defuse a nuke, we might laugh, but it's not because it's appropriately funny or witty, it's because of how stupid and asinine the situation is. Shortpacked is very much like that. Drama requires that A) actions have lasting consequences, and B) requires a change in the status quo. In both instances, the [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=2017 comedy] undermines the [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=2016 drama] by having zany, wacky hijinks with no lasting impact conflict with serious moments. Half the time you don't know whether to laugh or cry. <br />
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Perhaps the best example of this is the Inter-dimensional travel arc, where the drama tag is revisited. Here in this parallel universe, the drama tag was never pulled. Now, this little tag started as a simple, stupid plot device to suddenly introduce Amber's abusive father. Here, it's retconned into the one thing that keeps Pamela, Galasso's wife, from dying. [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1775 Apparently this is what the universe would've been like if the drama tag hadn't been pulled.] What makes it worse is that apparently this is a [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1786 reaction to the criticism] Willis recieved for adding drama in the first place, claiming that the characters would be stiff, happy-go-lucky cardboard cutouts without it (They still are). [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1806 They expect us to take this seriously] when all he does with his revival technology is bring back Ronald Reagan & Jesus for some cheap jokes, and that his daughter's named Conquest. Also, Galasso's a monumental idiot. Kind of sucks the pathos right out. Willis tries to convince us that [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=180 it was all set up from the beginning], but for all we know this was just some bullshit suspense without any sort of future plot in mind.<br />
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We're supposed to take these "character-developing" stories seriously, but because it all began as a joke, it's pretty much impossible. The reader cannot get invested in the drama because these actions keep zigzagging from having no weight to having a lot of weight, giving the reader empathetic whiplash when they're reading about [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1367 Robin cheating on Leslie] as a result of eating Cadbury Egg cereal, or that Amber takes relationships seriously when she dumped her boyfriend of ten years because she doesn't agree with his taste in comedians.<br />
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===Relationships===<br />
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Perhaps the best way to show just how much of a train wreck the characters are is to illustrate several of the dysfunctional relationships in the comic.<br />
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'''Amber & Mike'''<br />
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This was a match-up that takes you completely by surprise. Mike, an admitted sociopath, is forced to date Amber when she finds out about his alcohol-induced niceness. In order to keep it a secret, she blackmails him into dating her. The only reason she does this is because they [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=713they had sex]. No, really. That was when she started liking Mike. We're already off to a great start. I remind you, this is a girl with pretty [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=424 significant daddy issues] and had an abusive, controlling father.<br />
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Surprisingly, Mike is the more mature one in this relationship. As [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1166 Mike himself points out], she wants an asshole that she can control, which really makes her no better than her father. In fact, [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1265 her mother dating a jerk] is why she's a maladjusted shut-in in the first place. He even tries to do the right thing by trying to break up with her (by admitting to the whole Jacob fucking her mom thing). Yet the comic tries to convince us that [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1175 theirs is a true love] and they're meant to be together even though Mike [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=243 doesn't have a decent bone in his body] that isn't induced by alcohol, and even Amber can be surprisingly [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=633 selfish and petty]. She once rejected a promising relationship, her boyfriend of ten years, because she found out he likes [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=709 Carlos Mencia]. <br />
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Even when Amber is given the chance to hook up with someone else, she wants to stick with Mike because [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1493 "everyone has issues."] Yes Amber, everyone has issues - and some of those people have issues so great that they have no business trying to start a family. Oh, did I mention she's [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1505 having a demonspawn]? But that's ok, she'll be a good mom because [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1533 she cries over hamsters]. You know, [[Sonichu|Chris-Chan]] cried over his dead dog too, and I wouldn't let him anywhere near children.<br />
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I wouldn't go so far as to say Willis is making light of abusive relationships and how it can generate a cycle of dependency. I will say, however, he's an idiot.<br />
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'''Robin & Leslie'''<br />
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Robin originally kept Leslie around as a way to make Ethan jealous, in the hopes of forcing him to date her. When this failed, she kept Leslie around as a butt monkey. Even though she was stringing her along the entire time (and Leslie knew it), the comic tries to convince us that not only are they meant to be together, but that Robin always had secret lesbian feelings by outright [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=901 fabricating a crush with Amber]. That still doesn't change the fact, though, that this is [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1162 still a one-sided relationship], and that it all falls apart once Robin cheats on Leslie during a sugar-induced frenzy. But they get back together without really addressing the problems in their relationship through some incredibly stupid bullshit about inter-dimensional travel and revisiting the drama tag. Even when they talk about having kids, it's obvious that Robin is really [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1986 not into the idea], but goes along with it anyway so that wacky hi-jinks will ensue. Responsible parents all around.<br />
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On a side note, [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=262 this early strip] is surprisingly prophetic for both of the above couples. "Pregnancy solves relationship problems" seems to be how Willis likes to put together incompatible couples.<br />
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'''Ethan & Manny'''<br />
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After Ethan figures out that he's gay, he eventually starts dating. His first date is a guy named Drew, who was a perfectly reasonable and supportive guy. However, Ethan has a crippling toy hoarding obsession that drives a wedge between them. After multiple failed attempts to get Ethan to curb his addiction, Drew dumps Ethan. Later, Ethan meets Manny, who is [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1684 a lot more supportive] of his toy collection. However, Ethan literally gets up and [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1845 goes out of his way] to see Drew, who is now being vilified because he won't support his [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1507 "harmless hobby"]. I remind you, this is a guy who blows countless dollars in gas money checking toy stores, and collecting multiple copies of the same figure for upwards of $200. And he'd gotten so many of them that when he moved into Leslie's house the toys were [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1172 ''everywhere'']. [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1445 Even his sex life revolves around toys.] The comic tries to convince us that this is not a problem and that Drew, the responsible one, is in the wrong, and Manny, the enabler, is in the right. I don't know how he puts up with it, but in the real world it'd be obvious to anyone that his first love will always be toy collection.<br />
<br />
'''Malaya & Ultra Car'''<br />
<br />
Malaya is an asshole for no discernible reason. Ultra Car's also an asshole, but at least it made sense due to the fact that it's a machine that hates humans. Malaya is just an unlikable character who will strangle people just because she [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1751 discovered she's fat]. So when Ultra Car inexplicably became a female android, Malaya decides she wants to bone that because A) they can be assholes together, and B) she thinks that because she's had relationships that failed with both men & women, she should try dating a car. Never mind the fact that her relationships failed because she's a hateful, unpleasant, constantly angry prick, it had to be because she's an automobile-sexual (I'm surprised the comic hasn't tried to make that a word yet). Ultra Car, for no reason, goes along with it. She even decides to start caring about Malaya even though they've had no real chemistry or bonding. Also, if [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1584 she doesn't like kissing girls], what makes kissing a female robot so different?<br />
<br />
All four of these relationships are a disaster. The first two are based on lies, the third blatantly handwaves a serious condition, and the fourth just plain makes no sense. Willis is so preoccupied with making drama and hooking characters up that he's given no regard into creating relationships that would realistically work. The first three would simply end tragically, while the last one honestly would never happen even if sentient cars existed.<br />
<br />
==The ''Shortpacked!'' Porno==<br />
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[[File:Ofaceshortpacked.png|right|thumb|300px|Never has an orgasm looked so terrifying.]] This requires its own section of the review. In February 2014, Willis was commissioned by Slipshine (the same comic porno site that hosts [[Moon Over June]]) to make two porno comics based on his two works, ''Shortpacked!'' and [http://orgymania.net/specialfeature/7 Dumbing of Age]. Both are pretty terrible, but of the two, the ''Shortpacked!'' one is possibly worse. Now, I'm no porn critic (in every sense of the word), but even a brain-dead chimpanzee can see the many problems with this work.<br />
<br />
This comic, officially titled "My Lesbian: Or, Once We Hit 88mph We're Going to See Some Serious Clit", is centered around Leslie and Robin doing the dirty deed... in the most thoroughly unerotic way possible. Now, let's start with the obvious: Willis's style of art, while decent for cartoons, is completely inappropriate for porn. The lack of detail in the character design, as well as the overall tone, does very little to spark the viewer's interest. In addition, we've got anime speed lines, Robin gets cross-eyed in one panel (I'm assuming unintentionally), and some really painfully bad looking o-faces. In fact, I think Willis copied Walky's face for Leslie (which has a LOT of weird implications when you consider Walky is also Willis's nickname). On top of that, the comic suddenly takes a break in the middle of the action so that the two can watch Back to the Future. No punchline or anything, that was supposed to be the joke in itself. The comic then ends with a stillborn joke about how they're running out of movies that they don't have sex while watching.<br />
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Now you may be wondering, "That's all well and good, but is the sex at least satisfactory?" I'm going to go out on a limb and say Willis is very unfamiliar with how lesbian sex works, because I don't think Robin biting Leslie's ''inner labia'' is a particularly good idea. I will give him credit though, he seems good at illustrating water physics ''if you know what I mean.'' And... that's pretty much all I can talk about. The comic is only 16 pages long, and even then it's got pointless filler. The rest is just unappealing, untitillating cartoon sex. ''And they expect you to pay money for this''. There are people out there who are spending money on a slipshine subscription ''just for these two comics''. Well, let's be grateful it's not [[Kit n Kay Boodle]].<br />
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Because it is hosted on Slipshine, you need to pay money in order to see the comic. Luckily, some brave fellow on imgur [http://imgur.com/a/30Jt2 saved the whole comic here] (NSFW for obvious reasons). There's also a fabulous 4chan edit [http://shittywebcomics.tumblr.com/post/76944848956/from-the-4chan-thread-except-that-last-one here as well] (the original thread is gone but this blog saved the pages).<br />
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==Author biography== <br />
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[[File:ShortpackedComments.PNG|thumb|400px|left|How Willis handles opinions on writing]] David "Walky" Willis lives in Indiana and is 35 years old and married. As far as I can tell, his comics are his full-time career (plus whatever profits he gets from his online store). While I couldn't find much in the way of an official bio, [http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/77199386343/im-kind-of-torn-about-your-nsfw-comics-on-one-hand-i tumblr post] related to his porno comic tells quite a bit. He grew up in a very religious household (made evident by the fact that he [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1485 references] obscure Christian [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1679 kid's shows] that were never available in normal video rentals) and admits to being a wreck. He keeps [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1874 coming back] to the topic of religion, and at first I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that even if he's no longer religious, he eventually came to terms with it when he was [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=34 sympathetic towards John Paul II's death]. But now it's pretty clear, if it wasn't already obvious enough when he included Jesus, that he's one of [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1330 ''those''] atheists. [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=244 The evangelical kind]. Which really shouldn't surprise you considering how he approaches everything else.<br />
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His comic is also admittedly autobiographical from when he worked at Toys R Us, so it's easy to pick up an idea of what kind of person he is. If there was any doubt that Ethan isn't supposed to represent him, his character is [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1952 pretty much] [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=811 identical] to him (minus the gayness - presumably. I'm not judging). He's so obsessed with comics in fact that [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1005 he gave them out] at his wedding. He seems to think [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=621 4chan hating Robin] is a good thing (news flash: everyone hates her), whereas he doesn't want to get on the bad side of [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1890 tumblr] (as opposed to social media in general). I can't say for certain if it was tumblr that encouraged a lot of his more recent views, but I wouldn't be surprised, considering that the reason he had most of the main characters replaced by even less developed & interesting characters is [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1301 white guilt], and that almost all of the new cast fits in the [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1994 diversity closet].<br />
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Outside of the comic itself, I picked up an interesting piece of information. Here is a screencap to the strip [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=2012 "Compromised manhood"], in which he argues with a commenter and then promptly bans him without warning. What did this person do to merit banning? By pointing out that the setup and the punchline didn't match up. In this strip, a strawman customer complains about ponies being girly and stuff, then the out of left field Ken says "girls can have penises", which causes the customer to chop his dick off. You can see how that would be confusing. Willis, for whatever goddamn reason, interpreted this to mean that the commenter was not only willfully ignorant, but also transphobic. When other commenters (that is, the ones who weren't clamoring for Willis to "push more buttons") started saying yeah, he was right, the punchline makes no sense, he ended up closing the comments section. I highly recommend reading the rest of the comments to get an idea of who Willis's fans are; while there are some sane voices, there's a lot of deluded ones among them.<br />
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Between the above debacle and all the strawman arguments, its pretty clear that Willis has a problem with dealing with other people's opinions. Worse than that, he can be downright hypocritical about it. He tells people [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1180 not to harp on others] for giving their opinion... which he just did to real people in the comments. Funny how Willis spent [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=29 countless strips] speaking out against "[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=155 selling out]" to keep your job (for now we'll ignore Ethan [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=276 sleep with a woman for a promotion] because he was clearly shown to be a hypocrite). Here's a [http://zenpencils.com/comic/128-bill-watterson-a-cartoonists-advice/ Bill Waterson quote] about how instead of pursuing success for its own sake, you should do what makes you happy, because there's more to life than money and career. [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=1919 Willis completely misrepresents the message] by claiming the message is "Doing art for business is evil!" Yeah, we get that you should raise enough money to keep your family taken care of, but the quote is supposed to be a criticism of corporate culture and an encouragement for following your passion, not "fuck people who get paid to do art." See how he can't avoid misrepresenting other people's viewpoints? And when he contradicts himself, he ends up being pretty terrible at [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=473 following his own advice].<br />
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[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=999 And towards his own critics]? Always [http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=724 irrational], childish, and wrong. Save for one time. When John Solomon reviewed his webcomic early on, he had a [http://shortpacked.livejournal.com/234630.html relatively mature response] (even if he missed the point about how the drama he had introduced devalued the comic). I don't know what happened to change that, but I don't see him making the same response today.<br />
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==Conclusion==<br />
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I'm actually a little sad that this review came out as late as it did. Because the comic is ending this year, any chance of it improving is pretty close to negligible. I know, even if a review like this came out sooner, Willis isn't the type of person to take criticism well, but the off-chance that it could have had an impact is what matters to me. Maybe he'll do better with ''Dumbing of Age'', but the way I see it, unless Willis is able to look past himself and view his own work with unbiased eyes (or at the very least be able to escape his echo chamber), I don't see that happening.<br />
<br />
As for Willis himself, whom the comic is clearly a reflection of, all I can say is... as much as I really, ''really'' don't like the way he treats his intellectual opponents, I can't bring myself to the hate the guy. Really, I just hope he gets his shit together. He's got the potential to make decent work, if he just stuck with what he does best and put aside his personal baggage. ''Shortpacked!'' might be too late to save, but there's always the next one.<br />
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==Links==<br />
<br />
*[http://www.bringbackroomies.com/cast/ Roomies,] Willis's first comic<br />
*[http://www.itswalky.com/d/19991225.html It's Walky], his second comic<br />
*[http://www.dumbingofage.com/ Dumbing of Age,] a remake of ''Roomies'', currently ongoing.<br />
*Willis's [http://itswalky.tumblr.com/ tumblr], [http://itswalky.deviantart.com/ deviantart], and [https://twitter.com/damnyouwillis twitter].<br />
*[http://badwebcomicsarchive.blogspot.com/2007/06/shortpacked.html First] and [http://badwebcomicsarchive.blogspot.com/2007/06/more-shortpacked.html Second] articles on Shortpacked! by John Solomon.<br />
*[http://just-smith.tumblr.com/post/52991271199/male-superheroes-are-never-objectified Another review of the False Equivalence strip].<br />
*[http://thewebcomicsreview.tumblr.com/post/77566388151/heres-the-thing-the-tumblr-brand-of-social And another.] You can see how this really made the rounds on tumblr.<br />
*[http://thewebcomicsreview.tumblr.com/tagged/Dave-Willis More reviews] by The Webcomics Review blog.<br />
*[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/User:ItsWalky He's also the admin of a ''Transformers'' wiki]. What is he? A five year old?<br />
*[https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/assets/FallaciesPosterHigherRes.jpg A handy guide to logical fallacies.]<br />
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|'''Original review author:'''<br />
| [http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/norad-bush Norad Bush]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Webcomic name:'''<br />
| [http://www.bostonandshaun.com Boston and Shaun (Latest Incarnation)] [http://bostonandshaun.sunblazewildfire.com/ Boston and Shaun (Previous Incarnation)]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Author:'''<br />
| Shaun Reveal<br />
|-<br />
|'''Start Date:'''<br />
| For this part, February 12, 2005; comic traces its roots back to February 12, 1997<br />
|-<br />
|'''End Date:'''<br />
| Died November 2007, showed signs of life briefly in March 2009<br />
|-<br />
|'''Genre:'''<br />
| Comedy, Fantasy, Furry, Fetish<br />
|-<br />
|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
| Awful art, awful writing, lazy copy-paste action, freakish fetish behavior, looks like innocent family entertainment but it is really about voraphile fetishism.<br />
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'''Rating Summary'''<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable" style="width:600px"><br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Art'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
Barely passable, and even then it is done in a copy/paste manner as described below.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|<br />
Not applicable, as the strip has no overall storyline, but a series of repetitive story arcs.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Characters:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
Mundane with the occasional weird behavior.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
The previous version, which featured a young human boy instead of a kangaroo, was hardly better. The author said that his comic was inspired by the movie ''Pete's Dragon'', but other than having a dragon main character, this comic and the movie have nothing in common.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
What first appears to be innocent family entertainment is actually voraphile fetishism in disguise.<br />
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===Background===<br />
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[[File:bs1.jpg|thumb|500px|right|r00px|Oh, it looks so cute, doesn't it? Nothing horrible and vile could possibly be lying beneath the surface here. Nope.]]<br />
<br />
You know, when I stumbled onto this comic for the first time, I thought it was very innocent an unassuming. I actually thought that this thing was something whimsical meant for general audiences. ...And then someone told me about a lovely thing called "vore". Vore is defined as a fetish wherein one gets off on watching another eat voraciously, to the point of getting fat. Really fat. You can call it other stuff, like weight gain/expansion, but fuck it, it's all the same wank fodder. Vore it is.<br />
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''Boston and Shaun'' just happens to be the story of a kangaroo and his little dragon friend, and said dragon friend always encourages the kangaroo to overeat, swell up, or otherwise get fat. <br />
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'''I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A FUCKING FETISH BEHIND THIS THING.''' Words can't describe the feeling I had when I first found out about the voraphilia behind this comic, so I made a little picture to sum up my emotions. I call it: "Norad Bush Bleeds from the Eyes." <br />
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[[File:uncle-norad-bleeds.jpg]]<br />
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That said, I'm revisiting this review to educate folks as I have been recently educated on spotting fetishism and why it's not okay to put it in an otherwise kiddie-looking comic. <br />
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===Downfall===<br />
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Could this thing ever go up?? <br />
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===Story and Plot===<br />
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[[File:tphW9.gif|thumb|Right350px|Artwork from the original incarnation]]<br />
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''Boston and Shaun'' is the adventures of Boston, a little green dragon, Shaun, his kangaroo friend. (In the original version, Shaun was [http://bostonandshaun.sunblazewildfire.com/comic.php?comic=836 a human boy].) There isn't much of a plot here except that Shaun is young and must go to school and take his dragon friend with him wherever he goes. Then a lot of jokes ensue about Shaun getting really fat when he gets nervous or eats a lot of ice cream. Really. This is one of the major driving forces of whatever plot is here. Shaun either expands from getting nervous or fat from overeating. Everything else is mundane bullshit. <br />
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===Author Biography===<br />
<br />
Shaun Reveal is a furry fetishist and needs to keep his lunacy off the internet where people can see it.<br />
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===Art Review===<br />
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[http://comic.bostonandshaun.com/index.php?date=2005-03-11 The] [http://comic.bostonandshaun.com/index.php?date=2005-05-20 art] [http://comic.bostonandshaun.com/index.php?date=2005-09-04 here] is atrocious. This comic is a major offender in the [http://comic.bostonandshaun.com/index.php?date=2005-03-21 copy]-[http://comic.bostonandshaun.com/index.php?date=2005-03-18 cut]-[http://comic.bostonandshaun.com/index.php?date=2005-08-19 paste] [http://comic.bostonandshaun.com/index.php?date=2006-06-16 category], often reusing frames with little or no changes. The backgrounds are often simplistic gradients and the character rendering is pedestrian at best. While some of you may say that this is MS Paint quality, I argue that some sort of vector program is used to put out this tripe. If you look at the lines that comprise, well, everything they are very smooth. Line width doesn't vary at all in the inking and there is no cell shading/highlighting whatsoever. This tells me that there is a very amateur vector artist at work. The artwork looks like some crappy clip art you'd find in some print shop software. 15 years ago. <br />
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===Writing Review===<br />
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The writing is wretched. The dialogue often includes really [http://comic.bostonandshaun.com/index.php?date=2005-02-17 weak punchlines], some that make you wonder if there was even a joke to be had. There really is no plot. Shaun's parents are [http://comic.bostonandshaun.com/index.php?date=2006-03-08 mundane and stupid]. Shaun [http://comic.bostonandshaun.com/index.php?date=2005-02-14 doesn't want to go to school]. Shaun [http://comic.bostonandshaun.com/index.php?date=2005-04-11 meets friends at at school]. Blah, blah, blah. The mundane is very disarming, but don't be fooled by this thing. It slips into [http://comic.bostonandshaun.com/index.php?date=2005-03-25 freaky creepy territory] before you know it. <br />
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Throughout many parts of the comic, Shaun gets [http://comic.bostonandshaun.com/index.php?date=2005-02-26 fat from getting nervous]. Shaun overeats. Boston, Shaun's dragon, [http://comic.bostonandshaun.com/index.php?date=2006-12-08 encourages him to overeat]. There's a lot of expansion of this poor kangaroo here, and at first I couldn't figure out why. When one realizes that there's a vore fetish at play here, it puts a whole new spin on the (hideously) colorful picture we've got here. Shaun is supposed to [http://comic.bostonandshaun.com/index.php?date=2005-11-25 get fat for the audience]. Huge. Obese. And this is all because the [http://comic.bostonandshaun.com/index.php?date=2005-07-11 fetishists out there] are '''GETTING OFF ON IT.''' And it gets worse.<br />
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Boston likes to stay in [http://comic.bostonandshaun.com/index.php?date=2005-02-15 his pouch]. HIS pouch. Never mind that in the marsupial world, males do not have pouches. No, Boston just wants to hide out in what is essentially a WOMB on a MALE. Stop and think for a minute how disturbing this really is. At first I just wrote it off as just weird, but look past the innocent veil of this thing and see it for what it really is. [http://comic.bostonandshaun.com/index.php?date=2005-11-25 More fucking vore]. According to the [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.se/Vore Encyclopedia Dramatica] (don't click that if you value your decency!), marsupial pouch play is part of the vore fetish as well. Voraphiles like to watch people get shoved into certain parts of other people's bodies. '''LIKE DRAGONS INTO KANGAROO POUCHES.''' The whole sick picture is coming together, isn't it folks? <br />
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The worst part of all that this is all under a very unassuming guise, such that someone who didn't know better would think that this is all innocent fun. Odd, but innocent. But it's not innocent at all! It's horrible and porny and there are folks who look at this sort of thing to get off! I'm not the only who feels that fetishes aren't really a bad thing. I'm not mad at the fetish itself, but I'm mad at it being presented so innocently. If an author feels the need to make porn, just make it porn for real aimed at adults. Don't let that kind of creepiness affect our children, for Godsakes!<br />
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===Conclusion===<br />
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There are plenty of problems with this comic. The art is bad. The dialogue is bad. '''EVERYTHING IS BAD.''' But the worst thing of all is this piece masquerading as something it's not. Shaun Reveal, I don't care if you make a comic about vore or porn or furries shitting on each other while singing opera and eating live squid. Just keep your fucking creepiness away from society's innocents!<br />
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===Links===<br />
<br />
* [http://web.archive.org/web/20040829153556/sunblazewildfire.com/aboutme.htm Shaun Reveal's 2001 About Me Page] ''Dear God this person is out of his fucking mind.''<br />
* [http://www.wooopedia.com/wooo/Boston_and_Shaun Boston and Shaun Woopedia] ''They don't have much nicer things to say than I did.''<br />
* [http://www.somethingawful.com/d/awful-links/awful-link-2385.php B&S Makes Something Awful's Link of the Day!] ''Apparently the internet knew how badly this thing sucked before I ever came along.''<br />
* [http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/only-good-web.php Something Awful also made and entire article] ''yep...''<br />
* [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.es/Vore Encyclopedia Dramatica Vore Definition] ''In case you missed it above, Encyclopedia Dramatica's definition of vore. NSFW!''<br />
* [http://www.cracked.com/article_17607_the-5-circles-baffling-web-comic-hell_p4.html Circle 4] ''On cracked.com's "The 5 Circles Baffling Webcomic Hell".''<br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Original review author:'''<br />
| [http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/the-luigiian The Luigiian]; images and sassy captions by [http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/lesbot Lesbot]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Webcomic name:'''<br />
| [http://twokinds.keenspot.com/ TwoKinds]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Author:'''<br />
| [http://twokinds.deviantart.com/ Tom Fischbach]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Start Date:'''<br />
| October 22, 2003<br />
|-<br />
|'''End Date:'''<br />
| Ongoing<br />
|-<br />
|'''Genre:'''<br />
| Fantasy Adventure with furries and humans<br />
|-<br />
|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
| Interesting basic concept that degenerated into erotic furry fanservice.<br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Art'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]][[File:Wiki.png|65px]][[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
Clean, characterless, with a little too much connection to anime to be considered unique.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]][[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
There's a lot of potential, and a lot of it wasted too.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Characters:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
Fischbach turns these guys into wank fodder. Unintentionally, but still.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
Tries to appeal to horny furries while censoring the nips and nuts for family consumption. Not exactly a good combination.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]][[File:Wiki.png|65px]]<br />
It coulda been a contenduh, but ''TwoKinds'' lost it when it traded a high-minded concept for mindless erotic stimuli.<br />
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===Introduction===<br />
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''Twokinds'' has racist under- and overtones. It is softcore furry pornography, in spite of its author's objections to the contrary. It is blandly drawn, using every anime cliche ever invented. It is generic in its style, riddled with fantasy cliches to the point of ridiculousness, and is a chore to read, with characters so boring and lacking in definition you could switch the word bubbles in every panel and still have it read properly.<br />
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Can it get worse? Of course. Let us begin.<br />
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===Background===<br />
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Imagine if you will, a world of three races. The first race is that of the humans, specifically lily-white, not-a-smidgen-of-melanin humans who possess incredible magic and the ability to control the minds of perhaps millions of people, ruled by a group calling themselves the Templar. The second race is that of the Basitin, rats who are extremely fastidious, so ashamed of their own bodies that they make it a point to never show their paws or their nakedness in public, easily brainwashed by <s>white</s> human technology. And the third race is Keidran, who are naturally mongrel animals who pounce around completely nude all the time, controlled by intense desires to rape and kill outsiders, capable of speech but decidedly animal.<br />
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This world is in a comic, and that comic is a racial allegory made by a young Asian man who was the victim of racist bullies in school.<br />
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Welcome to the world of ''TwoKinds''.<br />
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===Concept, story and plotting===<br />
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[[File:TK1.jpg|thumb|center|500px|''There is nothing perverted about being a sex slave, constantly being naked, posing naked for strangers to paint pictures of you...'']]<br />
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Our story revolves around the aforementioned plot, as well as a love story between the tiger-girl Flora and human love interest Trace, the latter of whom once led the Templar and hated Keidran with the burning of a billion suns. By the end of the story, Flora is pregnant with Trace's child, leading to some creepy bestiality imagery that is best left untouched but which writer Tom Fischbach [http://twokinds.deviantart.com/art/Impromptu-Romance-109140325 plows, headfirst, into] as soon as he is able. (Well, OK, in a non-canon picture on his Deviantart. I say pish-posh to that excuse, it's still creepy as hell.)<br />
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In truth, the concept had room to continue. The concept, in and of itself, has got what you would need to make a touching, even nastily bitter, allegory about racism, but Fischbach has neither the balls nor the writing chops to make it work. It's really very sad, because it showed some promise, even dozens of pages in. A few improved plot twists, some more clever storytelling, and we would have something fairly amazing considering we're looking at a hopelessly generic anime-meets-furry-meets-fantasy webcomic.<br />
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It showed some promise, that is, but over time that promise evaporated to a shadowy memory. We see very early where the comic starts to go wrong, specifically [http://twokindscomic.com/archive/?p=8 page eight]. Now, before I go on, I'd like to point out that there's nothing wrong with showing your lead lady taking her clothes off. It can be romantic, loving, sweet, even tasteful. But what you don't see here is what the artist was doing. Judging by where the comic went after this, I'm guessing that something is better left unsaid, but I think it probably involved lotion, his right hand, and some fairly sweaty petting:<br />
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[[File:TK3.jpg|thumb|right|280px||Natani's vagina is both a spoiler and an important plot point. No really.]]<br />
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===Fischbach: Furry or not?===<br />
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I have no doubt in my mind about it, Fischbach is not a furry. He's crazy, but not a furry. I have it on good authority from a former admin of his TwoKinds forums that he once admitted to believing that he was immortal and that there was no logical way that pedophilia and child abuse could exist. So, I think it's safe to say Tom's got some serious issues. (Also secretly racist, considering the way that he depicts races in his comic.) But Fischbach is not a furry. What happened here, as with a lot of anime geeks, is that furry found Fischbach.<br />
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Fischbach and Eric W. Schwartz are a lot alike in this sort of way. Eric Schwartz writes a similar webcomic named ''Sabrina Online'', which started up sweet and innocent and ended up including furry porn characters working in a furry porn studio making furry porn for furries. Schwartz ended up drawing furry porn coming off of very sweet asexual things he drew way back when Amiga computers were still in vogue. Fischbach ended up drawing furry porn coming off of his comic's sweet asexual beginning. <br />
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In both cases, the authors simply found their comics to be a way to release sexual tension that they couldn't release through women or relationships, for whatever reason. Schwartz and Fischbach are not perverted because they want to be; they are perverted because, judging by their comics, well, they just can't get laid. I think this is what drives the creepiness of both comics. Mostly. The bestiality angle is also a big part of the puzzle.<br />
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One notable point, on that note, is that both Schwartz and Fischbach tone down their characters' sexuality, in spite of leading their characters into sexual situations. Schwartz keeps Sabrina clothed and prudish in the public limelight, drawing porn of her only for his own enjoyment. Meanwhile, Fischbach, suffering from a similar strain of confused prudery, draws his lead characters naked but without private parts, as these examples below illustrate:<br />
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* [http://twokinds.deviantart.com/art/The-Tortures-of-Estrus-99484826 An experiment in prospective, coloring, and environmental setting, yes?] ''Awwwright.'' How about some experimenting in giving your characters possibilities for breastfeeding the young, urination and...<br />
* [http://twokinds.deviantart.com/art/Hey-what-are-you-looking-at-25553533 ...defecation?]<br />
* [http://twokinds.deviantart.com/art/Trading-Halves-102753649 Sometimes Tommyboy's mind goes off in a very strange direction.]<br />
* [http://twokinds.deviantart.com/art/Flora-the-Tiger-Centaur-96466482 Strange directions like centaur porn.]<br />
* [http://twokinds.deviantart.com/art/The-Tiger-and-the-Worm-99661273 "Maybe I'm so desensitized I don't realize I'm drawing weirdo porn! But yes! Eureka!"]<br />
* [http://twokinds.deviantart.com/art/Lovable-Husky-96782857 "Haha, those gays are funny, ain't they?"]<br />
* [http://twokinds.deviantart.com/art/Pole-Dancing-Mike-96550007 Please note this guy's male most of the time.]<br />
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''"Hope you like it! ;D "''<br />
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On the other hand, many furry artists suffer from confused prudery, where you can tell they really truly want to draw porn but feel embarrassed to do so. SoulKat, writer for Chalo of [[Las Lindas]] fame, works to keep Chalo from drawing porn, especially of SoulKat's favorite characters. Anime artists, too, have trouble with this, such as [[Megatokyo]]'s Fred Gallagher and his [http://www.projectafter.com/cr_mt_extra.html disfigured mutant "Blurred" pornography]. Of all these, though, Fischbach comes closest to being a true pornographer. Half the time, you can turn his creations into porn simply by tracing in the necessary naughty parts and calling it a day. <s>Even Las Lindas is not so gratuitous in showing full frontal nudity.</s> Can you tell this is an old article?<br />
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[[File:TK2.jpg|thumb|center|600px|<center>''When not bounding naked around her OMGTTLY TRUE LOVE Trace, Flora acts as a cocktease to the other characters.''</center>]]<br />
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Where Fischbach is not sexualizing his characters, he actually takes a shot at making his story dynamic, introducing character ironies and difficult plot points that, in the hands of a great writer, would actually give this story the shot it needs to overcome Fischbach's sexual difficulties. But every time Fischbach introduces the points, he ruins what could be done with the plot.<br />
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* Character Flora's parents were captured and sold into slavery, which presumably is an allegory to the African slave trade. If Flora recalled this with bitterness, it would have a dramatic edge. But, Fischbach poo-poohs this, saying that she was purchased by a family that treated her in such a way that she remembers her days of slavery ''"with a ... fondness."'' If Fischbach wants to make slavery and racism seem bad, making his lead character a former slave that was ''fond'' of her slave days is the worst thing he can possibly do. I could see such a thing working with a secondary character, but the lead? She's the most important part of the narrative and with this sort of background she actively sabotages Fischbach's message.<br />
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* The general of the socially-conservative Basitin Army is clearly meant to be gay. This could actually be a strong point for the comic, assuming Fischbach could actually muster the ability to make it one. It would, conceivably, turn the conservativism of the Basitin on its head. All of a sudden, we have this deeply conservative, presumably deeply homophobic society that is so ignorant of itself and sexuality that it does not even realize that its own general is gay! Too bad it doesn't work. Not even a little. It just winds up feeling like another anime callback, a shallow joke for a quick laugh before getting back into the canned drama of the main story.<br />
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* Basitin slaves, like character "Mike, of the Coastal Fox tribe", are transformed into women, for seemingly meaningless reasons. (Honest plot point or transgender fetishist fanservice? You decide.)<br />
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* In the course of this comic, the sole sex slave character has fallen in love with her slave trader master.<br />
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It becomes laughable to attempt to see this as a commentary on race. What with the only slave-trader in the plot being a comically silly "dirty ol' boy" painting nudes of his slaves and treating them as if he's just a kindly old coot, it sort of becomes bizarre. I suppose it could be introduced as character irony, but it just falls flat for me and there are similar, yet graver problems.<br />
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===TwoKinds: Most racist anti-racist comic ever?===<br />
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[[File:TK5.jpg|thumb|center|600px|''"I do what's commanded, even if I feel it's wrong. That is what it means to be a Japane- err, Asian- no, wait, Basitin. Hai!"'']]<br />
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Remember, Fischbach himself [http://twokinds.keenspot.com/?pageid=2 stated quite clearly] the inspiration for his animum opus stems from his own experiences with discrimination. <br />
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So what does an artistically gifted person do to process this? Make a comic that ''speaks against'' racism?<br />
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Hah, fuck no. <br />
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Fischbach went and made a ''sickeningly racist'' comic. Not only that he wrote Keidran characters to accept and find their fucking fulfillment in slavery, it becomes really stomach-turning due to the fact that they're blatantly obvious stand-ins for black indigenous people, what with them [http://twokinds.keenspot.com/archive.php?p=15 running around in loincloths] and all. The whole "entering involuntarily a period of mindless animal horniness in which they jump everything that moves" shtick is the icing on the cake.<br />
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[[File:furnigger copy.png|thumb|center|500px|<center>''Even the characters know the concentrated subtlety here isn't really conducive to continued health.''</center>]]<br />
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The Humans in this world are nearly all white as chalk and espouse the Mighty Whitey cliche due to their cultural/technological superiority. Not only is their society superior to the rest, since they're the only ones who can draw magic energy directly from the earth instead of having to mine it (or something) they're even physiologically superior. Think about ''that'' for a moment.<br />
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Lastly, the Basitin. Oh Sweet Zombie Jesus, the Basitin. They live on an island largely isolated from everyone else in a highly regulated society that places huge emphasis on honor and dutifulness. Does that sound a tad familiar? Yeah, they're essentially the Furry fever dream of Japanese. The shit hits the fan, though, when it got revealed they are ''biologically hardwired to live in a militaristic, paternalistic society and obey orders'', and if they do not they literally ''become insane''.<br />
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You want to serve up your comic is anti-racist, Fischbach? That could quite easily pass off as a ''white supremacist's wet dream!'' That's what that is!<br />
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The punchline? He's got family in Japan.<br />
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Now, I don't think he really believes any of that or applies such views to real life. No, it ''might'' have started out as a commentary on the strictness of Japanese society he ''might'' have witnesses first hand before it eventually went all to shit.<br />
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Why? [http://twokinds.net/?p=477 Simply because he's a bad, bad writer].<br />
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''"What the Templar are doing is evil!" <br />
"Wow! So brave!" <br />
"Because no Basitins means no Basitin women! And I can't let that happen!" <br />
*character in background falls down with her feet in the air, like on every single generic anime comic ever made*''<br />
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[[File:TK4.jpg|thumb|240px|right|Trace Legacy can hardly take a step without catgirls slobbering and pawing at him like a horde of hungry undead.]]<br />
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===Conclusion===<br />
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After being on the ''TwoKinds'' forums for six months, I have never spoken to Tom Fischbach. He apparently dislikes talking to his fans, and dislikes his own forums. It wouldn't be difficult, considering many of the forum's regulars, but there you are.<br />
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Fischbach's attitude can be seen as he moderates. He chewed out a forum moderator for deleting old posts because it disrupted the servers. At least one other moderator has since left. In his ninety posts to his forums, Fischbach has never shown any real interest in chatting his fans, and the only time I ever saw any kind of artist/fanboy interaction of any kind was in a live UStream video, where his fans watched as he signed their pre-ordered ''TwoKinds'' comic books.<br />
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I compare this to Immelmann of [[Concession]], a man whose Mary Sue murders people and gives them cancer and rapes people. Immelmann genuinely takes an interest in his fans. He is far more approachable and likeable speaking on his forums than Tom Fischbach. <br />
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Hopkins of [[Jack]], another of this site's lowest-ranked comics, is equally approachable on his forums. His "Drip Rat" Mary Sue rapes and tortures people, but Hopkins himself is much less obnoxious, much less aloof than Fischbach, much more... dare I say... ''human''.<br />
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Fischbach's fans watch in quiet anticipation as he draws little pictures for them in their pre-ordered comic books-signing one "For Kitten", a member of his forums. Kitten squeals with delight. His fans chat amongst themselves. They enjoy it immensely.<br />
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They are able to speak to him only a little, once he joins the UStream forum for a minute, before getting back to his slowly signing each and every book.<br />
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Later, I speak with the former mod. He tells me Fischbach's issues with whining. He whines every time he joins his own IRC chat. He tells of the latest sad things that he just has to share in his life, because he is simply so sad and depressed all the time. Meanwhile he ignores his forums, where people are talking about equally sad things in their life, as well as happy things, chatting amongst one another while Fischbach stands aloof above it all, secure (apparently) in his dreams of immortality and a world where child abuse and rape simply don't happen.<br />
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All right, fine, I admit it, I can't stand the man. He is among the most unapproachable comic artists on the Internet today. He's boring, rude, childish, boorish, annoying, and thoroughly unlikeable to a fault. In this way, the artists of some of the worst comics on the Internet have trumped him.<br />
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===Links=== <br />
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* [http://encyclopediadramatica.es/TwoKinds Encyclopedia Dramatica article] fresh out of the oven.<br />
* [http://2kinds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7516&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 My last review got quite a response from ''TwoKinds'' fans.] Forum thread begins with simpering, ends with a member's admission of performing oral sex on her cats. My later escapades on the ''TwoKinds'' forums were far different from this. I think they've figured out I'm mostly just messing with them, and don't really take their comic that seriously.<br />
* [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3480170/1/Chains ''TwoKinds'' fanfiction.] I have not read this link. Read at your own risk.<br />
* [http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/TwoKinds Wikifur] article on ''TwoKinds''.<br />
* [http://fchan.us/read.php/req/1178351528/l40 FChan] asking Tom Fischbach for porn.<br />
* [http://rule34.paheal.net/post/list/TwoKinds/1 Rule 34] porn of TwoKinds. Note that most of it is just actual ''TwoKinds'' comics with nipples and vaginas added.<br />
* [http://www.projectafter.com/cr_twokinds.html Project A.F.T.E.R.'s Review]<br />
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNuRc8iWxUE Webcomic Relief on YouTube] also has a review of ''TwoKinds''<br />
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{{Keenspot}}<br />
[[Category:Webcomics]]</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Project2nd&diff=7302Project2nd2014-02-26T19:09:41Z<p>DentsAndDings: </p>
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|'''Original review author:'''<br />
| [[User:oddguy|oddguy]]<br />
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|'''Webcomic name:'''<br />
| [http://project2nd.com/ Project2nd]<br />
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|'''Author:'''<br />
| [http://loicklegacy.deviantart.com/ Loick "Leoian" Fahl]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Start Date:'''<br />
| April 28, 2013<br />
|-<br />
|'''End Date:'''<br />
| Ongoing<br />
|-<br />
|'''Genre:'''<br />
| Shameless ripoff of [[TwoKinds]].<br />
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|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
| Shameless ripoff of [[TwoKinds]].<br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Art:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
How does someone fail at tracing?<br />
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|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
Leoian's hero "Not Leoian" is magically transported into the land of "Not TwoKinds" to have sex with "Not Flora".<br />
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|'''Characters:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
The main character has the author's first name and the protagonist of TwoKinds' last name. Anything else you need to know?<br />
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|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]] [[File:Wiki.png|70px]] [[File:Wiki.png|70px]] [[File:Wiki.png|70px]] [[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
This guy is a psychotic stalker.<br />
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|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]<br />
I am going to spam the author of this comic with communist propaganda in hopes he tries to invade some dictatorship and they capture him and cut off his hands, thereby stopping him from continuing this comic. Wish me luck.<br />
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==Background==<br />
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[[File:18-Kitty.jpg|thumb|right|350px|No one's arm bends that way.]]<br />
When someone made [http://badwebcomicswikiforum.yuku.com/topic/52/Re-Project2nd-a-ripoff-webcomic?page=-1?page=-1#.UvE8p7SS9dM a thread about this comic on our forum] I decided to review it because I felt it would give us a new topic to talk about. We covered a lot of ways a comic could be utter shit, but this is the first time we have seen something that the defining flaw of which is being a deformed doppelganger of a more popular webcomic.<br />
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This kind of thing is (sadly) starting to become commonplace. ''Homestuck'' now has a number of webcomics shamelessly advertising on its own site that are "inspired" by it, one of which I believe is a porn comic. [[VG Cats]] also has an [http://orangebox.wwoec.com/vgbutts/ep utterly revolting] porn "parody" (it isn't really a parody. It's some pervert's home-made fap-folder displayed in public) that someone asked us to review. There are probably a lot more examples of this but at the moment nothing comes to mind.<br />
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The point is, this is a good opportunity to point out what not to do when making a fan webcomic. Namely-'''Don't make a fan webcomic.'''<br />
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==Downfall==<br />
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It's modeled after [http://twokinds.keenspot.com/ TwoKinds], one of the worst, most retarded webcomics online. There couldn't possibly a downfall because there was no way this comic could have been anything other than a failure from the very start. The fact that the actual creator of the comic that Leo is shamelessly plagiarizing hates Leoian to the core only makes things worse.<br />
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==Author biography==<br />
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[[File:GKa6uDU.jpg|thumb|right|400px|His ''totally'' not stolen banner and merchandise.]]<br />
I'm going to do something a little unorthodox and start the review with the author biography this time, since I feel it puts the entire comic into the kind of context that lets you understand how someone could possibly think this was a good idea.<br />
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So first I want to ask a question: What the hell is wrong with the [[TwoKinds]] forum? What is it about that pit of hell that leads complete lunatics to join it and be subsequently banned from it? [[Hearts of wildfire|The last guy from that forum who's comic we reviewed]] literally [http://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Angry_Reactions#Hearts_of_wildfire threatened to kill us], and this new guy puts that moron to shame in terms of craziness.<br />
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The story of Leoian goes like this: He joined the [[TwoKinds]] forum, declared himself to be the fictional brother of the comic's lead character Flora and began flooding the forum with drawings he commissioned of himself fucking her using his parents money. [http://twokinds.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=16709 When confronted by the disgusted forum's members about this being incest] he first claimed being furry makes incest okay and when that didn't work changed Flora's hair color and name pretending she was his own original character as if that fools anyone. When that ''still'' didn't work he took one step forward and fifty steps back onto the rail-track of the train heading for retardsville and created a ''new'' imaginary love interest called "Fauna" who looks exactly like Flora but with glasses.<br />
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But his antics didn't stop there. He also spent his time hanging out on the IRC demanding ops and threatening the admins when they refused to give them to him, getting angry at people for pretending to hit or have sex with Flora and stalking Tom Fischbach (the creator of [[TwoKinds]]) to the point he literally said that he would show up to a convention and spy on him. Think that's it? Hell no. He also made demands that Fischbach makes his self-insert an official character and '''copied every single page of [[TwoKinds]] to his own website''' with nothing changed besides replacing the lead character in the banner at the top of the site with himself and then refused to take it down until Fischbach began threatening him.<br />
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I heard the only reason Tom had not banned him sooner was that he would donate large amounts of money, possibly to appease him. But even that couldn't last forever because he eventually '''did''' get banned which is when the insanity '''really''' started.<br />
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After getting banned Leoian had a massive mental breakdown and sat down in his bathtub, fully clothed, and '''began punching himself in the face'''. Then he took pictures of himself sitting in the tub with a bloody nose and sent them to the sites admins together with demands to be unbanned and threats of going to Fischbach's house to settle this. The admins on their part tried to calm him down but hilariously did not unban him because I guess they preferred to risk letting him commit suicide rather than have to suffer interacting with him any longer.<br />
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==Story and Plot==<br />
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The story begins with [http://project2nd.com/project-2nd/3-crossed/ a page of incoherent nonsense] followed by our hero waking up in what is obviously [http://twokinds.keenspot.com/archive.php?p=1 the forest from the first page of TwoKinds], realizing he has magic powers, he uses to fight-off what are obviously [http://twokinds.keenspot.com/?p=characters the templars from TwoKinds] and save a tiger girl who is obviously Flora from [[TwoKinds]]. Then he passes out and is taken to her tent and upon waking up discovers he has been transformed into a tiger/man hybrid.<br />
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The appropriate response to realizing you have been magically transported away from everything you know and love to a backwards, foreign world and transformed into a hideous monster should probably be some combination of crying and going insane. But, being that people who write these kinds of stories to begin with are lazy hacks, Loick quickly overcomes his initial shock and just goes with it.<br />
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Over the next 30 pages Loick and Fauna explain to one another that they are in another world, Loick is now a tiger, they are being chased by someone and they are going to a pond. Notice how I explained all this in one line? In ''Project2nd'' this takes 30 pages of repetitive, tedious and poorly written dialog. Finally they arrive at the pond where <s>Flora</s> [http://project2nd.com/project-2nd/34-you-litle-thief/ Fauna strips and then forcibly undresses Loick]. Here I have to commend the author because he had outdone his master. Whereas ''Project2nd'' has its first suggestive pose on [http://project2nd.com/project-2nd/14-relaxing/ page 14] and its first instance of nudity on [http://project2nd.com/project-2nd/33-so-human/ page 32], Tom Fischbach couldn't keep his dick in his pants past page 7 and was already jerking-off to his own comic on [http://twokinds.keenspot.com/archive.php?p=8 page 8]. Good job Loick.<br />
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After the bath we cut to the Templar headquarters to see they are planning to capture our heroes. The big bad [http://project2ndarchive.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/42-683x1024.jpg transforms someone into another strange animal hybrid] (there is a second race of creatures in [[TwoKinds]] that Loick seems to have forgotten to include, but this guy [http://twokinds.wikia.com/wiki/Keith strongly resembles them]) and sends him out to capture them. Then we cut back to the main cast who had arrived at the city. They are attacked by someone off-screen and meet yet another, [http://project2ndarchive.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/55-683x1024.jpg poorly disguised ripoff] of [http://twokinds.wikia.com/wiki/Kathrin a TwoKinds character].<br />
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This is as far as the story has gotten. Loick has uploaded 60+ pages of comics on his wordpress blog, but he posts them one by one on the main site for some reason. So the plot will not progress until he has "published" all of them and even when he does it will probably just be more nothing, nothing and more nothing.<br />
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Basically it seems like Loick doesn't have a clear idea yet of what he wants to do with this comic, besides rip-off [[TwoKinds]] like a mattress tag.<br />
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==Writing part 1: Infringing Upon Copyrights==<br />
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I already covered how boring it is, now let us dwell a bit more on the plagiarism.<br />
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The extent to which it is obvious that this comic copies every single aspect of it from [[TwoKinds]] is only made more hilarious by the author's stubborn denial that it is. Loick becomes enraged when people point out to him that his comic is nothing but a poorly drawn copy. He gets even more mad when someone reposts his art and tags it "TwoKinds". When that happens he reports it to the site's administration. But let's just compare some of the similarities for fun.<br />
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* The hero of ''TwoKinds'' is named Trace Legacy.<br><br />
* The hero of ''Project2nd'' is named ''Loick'' Legacy.<br />
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[[File:5-Archelis.jpg|thumb|right|500px|Assaulted with a ball-gag.]]<br />
* The female protagonist of ''TwoKinds'' is named Flora.<br><br />
* The female protagonist of ''Project2nd'' is named Fauna (wow, real clever).<br />
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* The female protagonist of ''TwoKinds'' is a tiger.<br><br />
* The female protagonist of ''Project2nd'' is a tiger.<br />
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* In recent chapters of ''TwoKinds'' Trace begins using magic to transform himself into a furry.<br><br />
* In the beginning of ''Project2nd'' Loick is already a furry.<br />
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* ''TwoKinds'' starts with the hero waking up in a forest without knowing how he got there.<br><br />
* ''Project2nd'' starts with the hero waking up in an identical forest without knowing how he got there.<br />
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* The villains of ''TwoKinds'' are a group of men in black hoods.<br><br />
* The villains of ''Project2nd'' are a group of men in black hoods.<br />
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* The hero of ''TwoKinds'' has magic powers that often manifest themselves in the form of blue light.<br><br />
* The hero of ''Project2nd'' has magic powers that often manifest themselves in the form of blue light<br />
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* One of the other females in ''TwoKinds'' is a hyena.<br><br />
* One of the other females in ''Project2nd'' is a hyena.<br />
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* One of the other males in ''TwoKinds'' looks like some sort of giant rat.<br><br />
* One of the other males in ''Project2nd'' looks like some sort of giant rat (I already mentioned this guy).<br />
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* One of the minor characters in TwoKinds is a guy with red hair.<br><br />
* The shop owner in Project2nd is an identical guy with red hair.<br />
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Pretty much everything from the character design to the background in ''Project2nd'' is an inept copy of [[TwoKinds]]. The biggest difference between [[TwoKinds]] and ''Project2nd'' is that...<br />
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<span style="font-size: 3em;">FAUNA HAS A DICK!</span><br />
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This hasn't come up in the plot yet and they didn't comment on it when they were both in the pond naked, but there used to be a lot of art on Leo's Furaffinity featuring him being fucked up the ass by <s>Flora</s> Fauna, giving a new meaning to the term "Self Insert". Recently he had deleted some of this art, likely prompted by the creation of [https://encyclopediadramatica.es/Leoian his Encyclopedia Dramatica article] which now hosts copies of it. However, someone who talked to him says that he basically confirmed that it's the same in the comic and <s>Flora</s> Fauna is a hermaphrodite.<br />
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==Part 2: This motherfucker can't spell==<br />
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You know what makes all of this worse? Copious typographical errors. Despite being French and not knowing the language, Loick can't be bothered to ask a friend to proofread his comics before publishing them, or perhaps he has no friends to ask because I can't imagine someone who would voluntarily want to hang out with this kind of person.<br />
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Loick can't spell, he has awful grammar, he is a stranger to the concept of contraction which only makes the dialog even more awkward and unnatural.<br />
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Instead of talking about it the easier thing to do would be to just show you guys some choice examples.<br />
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{{quote|'''Fauna:''' "I took it because you stole it... The Archelis haven't all the rights".<br />
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'''-''' <s>Flora</s> Fauna stands up against oppression}}<br />
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{{quote|'''Loick Legacy:''' "I think I still shocked a bit and afraid".<br />
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'''-''' Loick, master of grammar}}<br />
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{{quote| '''Loick Legacy:''' "I hardly believe this is real, or maybe I'm dead or drugged. Or you're not an elaborate '''''hallutionation''''', then I guess I'm pretty screwed and lost".<br />
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'''-''' And spelling}}<br />
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{{quote|'''Loick Legacy:''' "Okay... Basically I'm '''''dommed'''''."<br><br />
'''Fauna:''' "Not exactly, but they saw us together and honestly I'm sorry for that. I caused '''''yousome''''' serious troubles".<br />
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'''-''' And typing}}<br />
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{{quote|'''Loick Legacy:''' "Ha.. ? Okay.."<br />
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'''-''' And punctuation}}<br />
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{{quote|'''Narrator:''' "A long '''''explication''''' later".<br />
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'''-''' I'm not sure if this was a typo that accidentally turned out right, or he thought "Explanation" wasn't fancy enough}}<br />
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{{quote|'''Loick Legacy:''' "Lady are you trying to help me?"<br><br />
'''Fauna:''' "Heh, you saved me, I '''''own''''' you that".<br />
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'''-''' Fauna owns "You That".}}<br />
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{{Quote| '''Fauna:''' "Now you should eat, you had a '''''rude''''' day".<br />
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'''-''' Monday called Loick an asshole}}<br />
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{{Quote|'''Fauna:''' "Cute, now let's go. And try to don't be a kitty, that's silly".<br />
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'''-''' ... What?}}<br />
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The comic is littered with this kind of stuff. I didn't even have to look hard. These are all from the first few pages and I saw about 50 more that I didn't bother quoting.<br />
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But you know how you can make reading this comic fun? Do it in the voice of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borat Borat].<br />
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==Art review==<br />
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The art is like a punishment for having eyes.<br />
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Let's just get straight to the point:<br><br />
[https://images.encyclopediadramatica.es/1/1c/Leotrace5.jpg He traces]. He doesn't only copy Fischbach's art style, plot and character designs. He blatantly traces his and other artists' drawing and passes them off as his own. He also completely denies doing it even in the face of irrefutable evidence, which I think he reports because some of it has been mysteriously taken down on imgur. He claims everything in his comics is based off of old ideas he already had before reading [[TwoKinds]] and at the bottom of his website he put down "Copyright 2008-2014" despite only learning about [[TwoKinds]] in 2009. The funniest part is that he thinks he's fooling somebody by putting a pair of glasses on Flora and changing her name as if she's Superman changing back to Clark Kent and fooling everyone in Metropolis.<br />
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This isn't just pathetic and stupid, it's illegal because he plans to make money off of it. Despite having drawn 60 pages at most, he is already printing copies of them, renting out booths at conventions and making banners that are also based off traced and stolen art. I can't really think of a reason he would do any of this since he doesn't need the money. From what I have been told there is no evidence that he either now or ever held down a job. I don't know if this is true, but rumor has it that he's 20 years old, lives at home with his parents and uses their money to do all this.<br />
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All that aside, the art is awful even though it's traced. ''Project2nd'' looks like a side-story about the entire cast of [[TwoKinds]] contracting polio. Everything about it is ugly and wrong, but not as ugly and wrong as when Leo tries to draw an original character. There is a single person in the cast so far that doesn't look like the creator or someone from the comic he is bastardizing and it's this guy:<br />
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[[File:42-683x1024.jpg|center]]<br />
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HAHAHAHAHA WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?! This is the best he could do?! The arch villain of this comic looks like a possessed guitar pick with [[So... You're a Cartoonist?|Preston eyebrows]]. Now I can see why he traces. When he traces his art looks like something Tom Fischbach might have drawn when he just started making [[TwoKinds]]. But when he tries to do it on his own it looks like something Tom Fischbach might have drawn when he just started walking.<br />
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==Conclusion==<br />
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Loick Fahl is deranged and ''Project2nd'' is a joke. It's a stalker's shrine of stolen art and perverted fantasies about having a fictional character grow a dick and shove it up his back door.<br />
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To Tom Fischbach I say: Run. Run as fast as you can and don't stop. They say imitation is the highest form of flattery, but I have a feeling this won't end until Loick Fahl kills Fischbach and wears his skin.<br />
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==Links==<br />
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* [http://project2nd.com/ The comic]<br />
* [http://project2ndarchive.wordpress.com/2013/12/08/chapter-1-all-pages/ The rest of the comic]<br />
* [[TwoKinds]] - Our review of the comic he is stealing from.<br />
* [https://encyclopediadramatica.es/Leoian His Encyclopedia Dramatica article]<br />
* [http://badwebcomicswikiforum.yuku.com/topic/52/Re-Project2nd-a-ripoff-webcomic?page=-1?page=-1#.UvE8p7SS9dM Our forum thread about his comic]<br />
* [http://leoian.wordpress.com/about/ A blog created to save logs of him making an ass of himself on IRC] - After his ED article was shown to him he began deleting anything that mentions his name.<br />
* [http://furjustice.blogspot.co.il/2014/01/artist-spotelite-leoian-aka-loick-fahl.html An insane pro-furry blogger defends Fahl's right to like incest] - This guy also stood up for known furry rapist Adam Wan.<br />
* [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/leoian/ His FurAffinity account]<br />
* [https://www.facebook.com/Project2nd Facebook fan group]<br />
* [http://loicklegacy.tumblr.com/ His useless tumblr]<br />
* [https://twitter.com/Loicklegacy His useless twitter]<br />
* [http://loicklegacy.deviantart.com/ His Deviantart]<br />
* [http://ask.fm/Loicklegacy Ask.com]<br />
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=aZsbcDE27RU#t=536 Him at a convention talking about selling his book]<br />
* [http://twokinds.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=16683&start=1695 TwoKinds Forum thread with proof that he is tracing]<br />
* [http://twokinds.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=16709 TwoKinds forum thread calling him out about incest]<br />
* [http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3OucrrzVm44J:forum.francefurs.org/viewtopic.php%3Fp%3D228102+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=opera Promoting his comic on a forum for french furries]<br />
* [http://web.archive.org/web/20110225003742/http://keidran-2kinds.com/ Archived copy of his site where he stole all of Fischbach's art]<br />
* If you want to see some of the porn art that he commissioned and then deleted just Google any of his nicknames and Rule34/e621. I don't want to link to that shit here. Let's just say he commissioned more than one person to draw him as a furry water bender from Avatar using his magic to create a giant water dick to simultaneously jerk him off while fucking him in the ass.<br />
[[Category:Webcomics]]</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Grim_Tales_From_Down_Below&diff=5923Grim Tales From Down Below2013-12-15T13:29:30Z<p>DentsAndDings: /* Background */</p>
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Original review author:'''<br />
|[http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/quadratus Quadratus.]<br />
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|'''Webcomic name:'''<br />
|[http://grim.snafu-comics.com/ Grim Tales From Down Below.]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Author:'''<br />
|[http://bleedman.deviantart.com/ Vinson "Bleedman" Ngo.]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Start Date:'''<br />
|December 20, 2004.<br />
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|'''End Date:'''<br />
|May 6, 2009.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Genre:'''<br />
|Weeaboo fantasy world where characters from ''Cartoon Network'' hang out with ''Spawn'' and the cast of ''Nightmare Before Christmas'' while shamelessly ripping off ''Kingdom Hearts''. (Manga, Fantasy, Fanfiction, <s>Shit</s>).<br />
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|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
| It's a pathetic attempt to be edgy and cool while being extremely creepy, cliché, and bland.<br />
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|'''Art:'''<br />
|[[File:lollyicon.jpg]][[File:lollyicon.jpg]]<br />
Poor character designs and development; lacking originality (see: Mini Mandy and Grim Jr.); overly saturated artwork; poor panel placement. He can draw mean looking monsters and robots, but too bad he can't draw them into action scenes or anything that actually requires effort on his part.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:lollyicon.jpg]]<br />
Mandy did 9/11! 'NUFF SAID!<br />
|-<br />
|'''Characters:'''<br />
| Again, see Mini Mandy and Grim Jr. Also, let's not forget every cartoon character from ''Cartoon Network'' and ''Nickelodeon''.<br />
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|'''Amount of candy in Vinson Ngo's van:'''<br />
|[[File:lollyicon.jpg]][[File:lollyicon.jpg]][[File:lollyicon.jpg]][[File:lollyicon.jpg]][[File:lollyicon.jpg]][[File:lollyicon.jpg]][[File:lollyicon.jpg]][[File:lollyicon.jpg]][[File:lollyicon.jpg]][[File:lollyicon.jpg]]<br />
Keep away from children.<br />
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|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:lollyicon.jpg]]<br />
Horrible fanservice and a masturbatory comic involving Bleedman's fetish and fantasy desires; disturbing on all levels; art slightly makes up for the shotacon, but avoid like the plague! Oh, need I remind you that Mandy did 9/11 so the Grim Reaper could marry her?<br />
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== Background==<br />
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From the bowels of the internet, a site where art students gathered to display their work and critique each other's pieces was born. This web site was called DeviantArt. It was a safe haven for a young, impressionable artist who was new to the internet. That artist was me. As I browsed the site, filling my favorites folder with anime fan art, I came upon an artist who drew Powder Puff Girls fanart and a fan webcomic. I added one of his character sheets to my favorites folder and never bothered to look into just why a grown man would be drawing fan art for a cartoon about grrrl power.<br />
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That was until I was browsing Encyclopedia Dramatica and found Bleedman's page there. Needless to say, I need to send Vinson the bill for the therapy season for the traumatic rape of my childhood he caused.<br />
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However, he made another webcomic about a show known as ''The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy'', which aired on Cartoon Network for a while. The show is about two children, Billy and Mandy, who tricked the Grim Reaper into becoming their slave/friend. Sounds awesome, right? Too bad, because Bleedman took a huge dump on its premise to pander to his mall goth fanbase.<br />
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== Downfall== <br />
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The moment Bleedman revealed that the Grim Reaper and Mandy (who is now a smoking hot blond sex goddess wearing nothing but a corset with wings and thigh high boots) got married and had two children, Mini Mandy (ugh) and Grim Jr. However, that isn't the worst of it. Apparently, Mandy is a militant Left Winger who was behind - wait for it - [http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=30 9/11]! I shit you not. Somewhere in Bleedman's mind, he thought that making a character from a cartoon show into a terrorist would be an very good and edgy idea. Not only is it stupid in every way, but highly insulting. Of course, Bleedman's attitude towards people being offended by this is even more sickening.<br><br />
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{{Quote|"The reason why I was suspended was because I blew my tops, I got really annoyed by one of the deviants whining around the front page about the 911 pages. I replied back to her in a manner that violated this so-called "''Etiquette Policy''". Here's what I said: ''"You wanna talk seriously or just screw around like the whining little bitch you are. If you want people to listen to you I suggest you act a little more mature over this, I think you're old enough to understand that".'' Obviously some[one] reported this to the administrators, so yeah I need to be more careful when talking to people in DA. Someone is close by listening to every word I say so I better just shut up now and let my pencil do the talking.<br><br />
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- ''Vinson 'Bleedman' Ngo''"}}<br><br />
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Now, I do admit to having a pretty raunchy and tasteless sense of humor and have no doubt offended people before. However, I posses some degree of social grace and some tact and don't get all pissy when I get in trouble for lacking proper social skills, nor do I insult people for being offended, the reason being simply that I'm not a social retard.<br />
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But did Bleedman's fanbase care? Hell no. His suspension from DeviantArt violated his freedom of speech! He was a martyr! <br />
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[http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=25 Also, Mandy has a poster of Hilter on her wall.] Oh, Bleedman, you are so edgy I can shave my beard on this page.<br />
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[[File:Grim_Tales_9-11_Crop_%28Scaled%29.JPG|thumb|center|500px|Because having a cartoon character cause 9/11 is edgy!]]<br />
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== Story and Plot==<br />
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The comic opens with Mini Mandy (who looks like a rag doll with one eye) and Grim Jr. (who is a skeleton with a small tuft of brown hair on his head) fighting a demon. Their asses are being kicked until Spawn shows up out of nowhere to save the day. Yes, you heard me right, [http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=4 mother fucking Spawn]. After that random cameo, they [http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=7 go off to Halloween Town for their first Halloween]. The story devolves into underage girls flashing their panties and crossovers from many other cartoons. <br />
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== Art review==<br />
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I'm not going to lie: Bleedman is a very competent artist. The art style is very much like a cartoon you'd see on ''Cartoon Network'' and is very reminiscent of ''Power Puff Girls'' if they were preteens. [http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=22 However, all of the child characters have the same body shape- big head, big eyes, tiny torso, big fucking hands, long legs, and the largest cankles you have ever seen.] The problem comes when Bleedman draws characters from other series in his anime/cutesy cartoon style. [http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=24 Take this page for example]: Lock, Shock and Barrel from ''The Nightmare Before Christmas'' were a group of a fairly creepy looking children, but in ''Grim Tales from Down Below'' they are so cute that you just want to eat them up. <br />
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[[File:bleedmanlineup.jpg|center]]<br />
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Quite literally, the only way to tell a character apart is by their hair, colors, and clothing. Half the characters in the image above are proof enough of this claim. Now, Bleedman can draw pretty well. It's easy to see with his more detailed characters like his robots and monsters. It's just too bad that when it comes to drawing these highly detailed characters in his comics, he tends to avoid [http://grim.snafu-comics.com/?comic_id=54 drawing these scenes like they were the fucking plague]. What's the point of having so much detail on your character if you're not going to even show them in action? This is a cheat on the artist's part as it shows how lazy he can be when it comes to actually making a comic. Does he even care about the quality?<br />
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Let's move onto another couple of things that really bug me about his art. First is the coloring. You often see the entire thing colored in a very bright fashion, but this becomes a problem when it comes to setting a mood. The page above is a perfect example of this as the mood of the robot being dismantled is a simple gray with neon green goop surrounding it, but even that is offset by the rest of the page being as bright as daylight. Isn't this comic supposed to be "dark and edgy?" Then you should show it with the colors you moron!<br />
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Second thing is the panels. Now, it seems good at first, but reading further into the comic, you notice one the biggest flaws: [http://grim.snafu-comics.com/?comic_id=107 characters constantly breaking the panel boarders and crowding other panels, and mixing multiple panels into one big clusterfuck panel]. Take the middle panel there for example. Not only is there a small monochromatic figure of HIM, but there's also a giant Mandy defying gravity, and a giant kid on fire with another Mandy standing in front of him. All of this happens right behind the little HIM. So... what's going on in that panel anyway? Was there really a need to combine those three completely different panels into one big panel? It's nice to think out of the box and not cram images into little panels, but sometimes you need to hold back on the reigns and not go overboard with it. Bleedman's work is not only an eyesore to look at, but the images without dialogue are completely impossible to understand and serves to hinder his already disgusting storyline!<br />
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== Writing review== <br />
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''Grim Tales From Down Below'' is nothing but a giant wank fest, and a masturbatory aid for Bleedman. It's like a contest to see how many cameos a webcomic can possibly have until it collapses under its own bullshit. Seriously, look at all of these fucking cameos! We have [http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=9 The Nightmare Before Christmas], [http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=28 Meet Joe Black], [http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=27 Yogi Bear, Megas XLR, Evil Con Carne, Teletubbies, Invader Zim, Dora the Explorer,] [http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=67 Danny Phantom,] [http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=34 Fairly Oddparents, Saw,] [http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=4 Spawn,] [http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=36 Hey Arnold!,] [http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=37 Lenore] and... [http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=62 Yu-Gi-Oh?] See, what makes it so jarring is how most of those characters will just come outta the wood-work by convenient plot device rather than for any substantial explanations. It also doesn't help that most fans will just eat it up without question, the mindless sheep!<br />
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What little plot Grim Tales has is about how Mini Mandy became a rag doll-like girl with incestuous undertones. It all started when Mini Mandy and Grim Jr. went to Halloween Town and got chummy with Lock, Shock, and Barrel, and of course Grim Jr. gets kidnapped by Oogie Boogie so Mini Mandy has to save him and... [http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=54 gets her shit fucked up]. When it comes to info dumps, Bleedman is the master. Words are just vomited onto the page to form [http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=57 long, ranty] [http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=59 blocks] [http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=79 of text] and [http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=40 whatever the fuck this is]. I know talking is a free action, but goddamn. <br />
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All and all, the writing is just bland, boring and redundant. The key to writing is showing, not telling, especially when the writing is in a comic. <br />
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== Author biography== <br />
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Ladies and Gentlemen, Bleedman is a pedophile. But much like another [http://badwebcomics.wikidot.com/chugworth-academy webcomic artist we know], the fans do not care, even though Bleedman is much more open about his pedophilia. He even jokes about it. [http://i36.tinypic.com/2yozas8.png Luckily, there are sane people on DeviantArt.] Overall though, looking past the pedophilia, Bleedman is a real douche-bag who only draws to serve his own cum-soaked fantasies. But what about his fans you may ask? Doesn't he give them props for elevating him to the ranks of "The most viewed artist on DA"?<br />
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Short answer: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMsYQSuiMPI NO]! Actually, what he said to them was "Get a life." Oh Vinson, you're a real credit to artists everywhere.<br />
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== Conclusion==<br />
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Mall goths will like anything as long as it involves cartoon characters and ''The Nightmare Before Christmas''. Also, the shotacon and lolicon lovers would really enjoy this. For those with higher standards, however, you'll quickly find yourself scrambling for eye bleach after viewing this horrid mess of a comic.<br />
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== Links== <br />
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* [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.es/Bleedman Bleedman's page on Encyclopedia Dramatica] NSFW<br />
* [http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=0 Comic Page] Very NSFW<br />
* [http://bleedman.deviantart.com/ Bleedman's DeviantArt page] PANTIES AND 9/11 LOVE STORY AHOY!!<br />
* [http://bleedman-fan-artists.deviantart.com/ Bleedman Fan Artists group] First of the Bleedman lover groups on DA<br />
* [http://grim-tales-fan-club.deviantart.com/ Grim Tales Fan Group] Second group so far.<br />
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[[File:chris-hansen.jpg|thumb|center|400px|Why don't you have a seat over there, Vinson?]]<br />
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{{SNAFU}}</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Firework_Comic&diff=4459Firework Comic2013-09-15T10:40:13Z<p>DentsAndDings: /* Links */</p>
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|'''Original review author:'''<br />
| [[User:oddguy|oddguy]]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Webcomic name:'''<br />
| [http://web.archive.org/web/20130403131247/http://fireworkcomic.com/comics/first/ Firework Comic] - link to web archive because the comic was deleted before I could finish the review but there are still a few pages left there and a few more [http://fireworkcomic.com/comics cached by Google] or in the [https://www.google.com/search?q=http://fireworkcomic.com/comics&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:he:official&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1rQPUo-KH4_TsgaJ14HYDQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=626#imgdii=_ image search.] The comic might return later.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Author:'''<br />
| [http://comicfury.com/profile.php?username=powerful.pineapple Chelsey Marrington] AKA E.A. Aleksandoroff/E.A. Alex/powerfulpineapple/one_underscore and probably a few others.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Start Date:'''<br />
| At the bottom of each page it is copyrighted 2006-2011 but the first page was posted on October 2011.<br />
|-<br />
|'''End Date:'''<br />
| Last page posted on 1st Jul 2013.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Genre:'''<br />
| It says "A sci-fi young adult webcomic" and I have to take her word for it because I couldn't even understand the plot.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
| The incompetent art really compliments the inept writing.<br />
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|'''Art:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]] The art looks like it was made by someone going through cocaine withdrawal.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]] Impossible to understand yet strangely enraging.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Characters:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]] All insufferable embodiments of hot topic among the tumblr social justice community.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]] Check the fucking bio section and you will flip.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]] If I printed this comic and folded it into a crane, that crane would come to life and fly head first into an oil spill.<br />
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==Background==<br />
<br />
For the first time ever I am posting a review about a comic that is already gone. I started writing this review a while ago and when I came back to it today I noticed the comic had been deleted. Seeing as how I have already done most of the work and had someone make some Photoshop edits for me I figured I might as well pick up the scraps of the comic that are still online, edit the review to reflect that it is gone and finish writing it. But that is not the only reason I didn't want to just delete this and move on.<br />
<br />
If you are on Tumblr a lot you might already know this story. For those who don't, let me just say that the creator of this comic, besides the unforgivable crime of making the comic itself, was involved in another massive drama where she exposed herself to be one of the most awful people I have had the displeasure of coming across. After the fact she deleted all traces of what had gone on and went AWOL. But recently it seems she has come back out of hiding thinking the storm has passed and everyone will just forget about what she had done and move on. Before that happens I would like to record the events and her comic, which is review worthy in its own right, for posterity.<br />
<br />
Some people take issue with this site's tendency to criticize the authors of comics alongside their work. Many feel this undermines our intent of being a serious review site. And, although I could write an entire article explaining our rationale behind this, let me now just summarize. We do this for two reasons, the first is that in the unique medium of webcomics, where your interaction with readers is direct, immediate and unsupervised by someone who's job it is to keep you in check, managing your public persona becomes a part of being a good webcomic artist and deserves to be a subject of critique. The second is that, while bad webcomics are a dime a dozen, we are still (to some extent) a wiki. And that is why we must document not only the ''worst'' webcomics but also the most ''noteworthy''. And what makes something more noteworthy on the Internet than drama from the person who created it?<br />
<br />
So with no further ado, ''"Firework Comic"''.<br />
<br />
==Downfall==<br />
<br />
Right at the start. [http://web.archive.org/web/20130403131247/http://fireworkcomic.com/comics/first/ The first page] is so bad it looks like it's a parody of something.<br />
<br />
==Story, Plot and Writing==<br />
<br />
I am combining all of these sections into one for a simple reason - I have no idea what the hell I just read.<br />
<br />
In the [http://web.archive.org/web/20130403085117/http://fireworkcomic.com/thel1team/ synopsis of the plot] it is explained that the story is about a future world where the police/bounty hunters (it isn't clear) are fighting to stop youth crime. It seems that adults committing crimes aren't important. What IS important is 14 year olds doing graffiti. So the bounty hunters are paid by sponsors to stop these crimes in space (we are told so but they never actually go there). Besides the obvious question of how the hell teenagers are committing crime outside of earth (even in a future world spaceships can't be cheap enough to buy with your allowance) the most prominent thing is that this plot sounds like a half assed rip-off version of Cowboy Bebop.<br />
<br />
That is all I could understand about the plot because I could not figure out who anyone is. The art was so bad and the dialog was so incoherent that I struggled to understand who any of the characters are and the typos, spelling errors, poor grammar, internet abbreviations in place of words and smudged text that I couldn't read only made matters worse. That really is the long and short of it. I read what they are saying, I looked at what was drawn and I didn't know if the person who is talking now is the same one who was talking in the previous panel.<br />
<br />
Other than that the comic is heavily influenced by the tumblr Social Justice movement that boils down to declaring people guilty of not being minorities. According to these people all men are rapists, all white people are racists, if you are rich you are oppressing the poor by being rich and so on. "Alex" clings strongly to these ideas and her main character is a tansgender-ish, poor woman who everyone oppresses simply by being different than her. In other words she is a giant, man-hating racist... BUT WAIT! She can't be a racist or a discriminator because...<br><br />
<br><br />
<br />
[[File:9c633d8f74eff5a288db62ebdb98c5f92022208456.jpg]]<br><br />
<br><br />
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Even worse is the fact that she is also a self insert, as can be told by the fact that [http://web.archive.org/web/20121112071051/http://powerful-pineapple.deviantart.com/ the profile picture on her old, deleted DevianArt account is a photo of her with the line art of the character drawn over her.] More evidence to that fact incude that character bio that mentions she uses morality as an excuse to bully people, which is something Alex actually did (more on that in the bio). <br />
<br />
So, although I can't comment much on the plot,having understood none of it besides that they are fighting a monstar made of bananas and yogurt (I think),I can comment on the general undertone of the comic which is driven by the same mix of jealousy and white guilt as the rest of Tumblr's social justice crowd.<br />
<br />
I was able to contact the creator of the comic to try and figure out where I can read it again. She didn't respond but [http://comicfury.com/forum/viewthread.php?id=15177&page=1#p376391 pointed me to a thread] where it seems she is saying the comic will return. If it ever does I promise to read it a hundred more times in hope that maybe some microscopic part of this story will become more clear to me so I can better write this section. Until then my review can be summarized with one word: "...What?".<br />
<br />
==Art review==<br />
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The art is really the crowning failure of this comic. As I had already explained, thanks to the art I have no idea what this comic is even about. The chosen style is (what else?) manga. And compounding the problem that in manga art is simplistic and the faces look the same is the artist's hilarious lack of ability to draw.<br />
<br />
Everyone looks fucking deformed in this comic. They look like melted wax sculptures. They look like they grew up next to a power plant. At one point [http://kwhynot.tumblr.com/search/firework-comic someone attempted to criticize her art on some forum and she told him to go burn himself to death and then asked one of the moderators to ban him]. By the way, she will still block you and complain to the staff if you so much as ask her a question in a way she doesn't like or delete your comments from her comic. But after she tried to get him booted off the forum she actually tried to take his advice and add color to the comic which only made things worse. At least when she was copying japanese manga all you had is two dimensional line art. When she attempted to add some sort of depth and volume to it everyone's heads began looking like potatoes. She couldn't even put the facial features in the right place and people's noses were underneath one eye or the other instead of the center of their face. Sometimes, instead of a nose, she would just draw a pair of nostrils that made me feel like I am reading the life story of Voldemort.<br />
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I have no words to describe what is wrong with the art because it is simply everything.<br />
<br />
<font size="3">Just look at it...</font><br />
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[[File:D55b4f58027d5844e3a2f0c5cc897b8c1356419852.jpg]]<br><br />
<br><br />
<font size="5">LOOK AT IT!</font><br />
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[[File:Potatoes.png]]<br><br />
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<font size="7">'''LOOK AT IT!!!!!!'''</font><br />
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[[File:Wtf.png]]<br />
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==Author biography== <br />
<br />
This is where the meat is. This is the juicy part of the review. This is what all the drama whores like myself will probably come here to read.<br />
<br />
So what did this girl do that was so bad? Well, let me tell you a story:<br><br />
There once was a poor, underprivileged girl who couldn't even afford food. From the day she could walk she had to get a job to support her deadbeat parents who wouldn't give her enough money to eat or even for clean water. Every night she would lay hungry in bed and cry herself to sleep as she fantasized about her only dream - to be an artist.<br />
<br />
That is the story of our poor "Pineapple". But she would not give up! Together with another underprivileged friend they joined forces on Tumblr and created two blogs "[http://aboutmaleprivilege.tumblr.com AboutMalePrivilege]" and "[http://thisiswealthyprivilege.tumblr.com/ ThisIsWealthPrivilege]" to fight the evils of the upper class, expose the wrongdoings of the patriarchy and insult girls suffering from anorexia... wait, what?<br />
<br />
Yes, it seems powerful Pineapple was not at all poor. I read somewhere that she hinted that she is also of color but that is also probably a lie. She and her friend decided to pretend to be starved children, when in reality Pineapple was a spoiled, upper middle class girl who spent her money buying video games and collecting expensive, rare tea (if that isn't proof she is white I don't know what is... can you think of a whiter hobby?). She and her friend used the blog not only to garner pity, but also to send pictures of food to blogs about eating disorders and insult the handicapped. At one point one of them recorded a response instead of writing it and when she was asked by a deaf person for a transcript she laughed at him/her. I even found a mention of her possibly making anti-semitic statements.<br />
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All of this ended up exploding in her face when she pretended to need money to help her go to art school and came up with a brilliant plan... '''[http://neil-gaiman.tumblr.com/post/40049695398/this-probably-wont-work-but-im-at-my-wits-end-im-a ASK NEIL FUCKING GAIMAN FOR IT!]''' Yes! She contacted the famous writer and comic artist [http://www.neilgaiman.com/ Neil Gaiman] on his blog to tell him that she is a poor starving girl whose only dream it is to go to art school and has two days to come up with 5000$ so she can go. Gaiman in response reblogged her post so that people could donate to her assuming that this was what she wanted, and the general consensus is that this was her plan all along. However, I think she was actually hoping he would '''just give her the money'''. When this happened people began investigating and found out that everything she said was a lie. She was pretending she didn't have money to eat so that people would give her money to buy more video games.<br />
<br />
When everything came to light she freaked out, accused people of stalking her, shut down her blogs (they seem to be back now) and deleted everything. For a moment I thought about saving every page of her comic before she deleted that too, which I now seriously regret not doing.<br />
<br />
Oh, and on the "Firework" website she sold T-shirts saying that 20% of the profits will go to shelters for abused women. Which, if it was a lie (it probably was), will mean she was not only running ONE donation scam but '''TWO''' of them at the same time! B^Uckley could learn a thing or two from this girl.<br />
<br />
==Conclusion==<br />
<br />
As of late the comic's site has been redirecting to a tribute page for [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin Trayvon Martin] (still trying to pretend she is some kind of hero of the people) and "Alex" [http://comicfury.com/forum/viewthread.php?id=15177&page=1#p376391 posted a thread] saying the comic will eventual resume. All further attempts to find out when or how to read the previous pages were to no avail. I found some clues that point to her deleting the comic in the past. Still, I am doubtful she will really continue it so I am not going to wait for that to happen before making a review.<br />
<br />
So, in conclusion, her comic was one of the stupidest, most ugly, most poorly written naked money-grabs in the history of webcomics. The art was an atrocity and the writing was a call to arms against all white, heterosexual, male americans for their crime of making people jealous.<br />
<br />
You can no longer read her comic, but until it is returned you can at least read this review to soak up its awfulness by proxy.<br />
<br />
==Links==<br />
<br />
*[http://web.archive.org/web/20130403131247/http://fireworkcomic.com/comics/first/ What is left of the comic.] - Avert your eyes children.<br />
<br />
<u>'''On Tumblr'''</u><br />
<br />
*[http://aboutmaleprivilege.tumblr.com Her man-hate blog.] - I am not sure if this is the original one.<br />
*[http://thisiswealthyprivilege.tumblr.com/ Her blog for pretending to be poor.] - Again, not sure if it is her because I remember her deleting it.<br />
*[http://wtfsocialjustice.tumblr.com/post/41076704484/firework-comic-the-cliffnotes-ish-version Tumblr post where the truth is exposed] - in [http://wtfsocialjustice.tumblr.com/post/40869713210/aboutmaleprivileges-owner-needs-to-check-their another post] this person literally found her house (she posted her address online at some point) and... just look at it. Poor my ass.<br />
*[http://thatisnotmaleprivilege.tumblr.com/ A mock blog] - Making fun of her feminism blog.<br />
*[http://special-snowflake-hall-of-fame.tumblr.com/search/manganomicon All posts regarding her comic on another tumblr that used to mock her] and all posts [http://special-snowflake-hall-of-fame.tumblr.com/tagged/thisiswealthyprivilege about her]. Contains a few of the first pages of the comic.<br />
*[http://factualwiley.tumblr.com/tagged/aboutmaleprivilege Yet another tumblr that exposed her lies].<br />
*[http://kwhynot.tumblr.com/search/firework-comic And this guy got told on to mods for telling her nicely she needs to draw better].<br />
*[http://shittywebcomics.tumblr.com/tagged/firework All posts about this on the "Shitty Webcomics" tumblr].<br />
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There are a number of other blogs on Tumblr that have commented or made fun of what happened and I strongly advise anyone who liked this review to Google it. <br />
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<u>'''On Other Sites'''</u><br />
<br />
*[http://comicfury.com/profile.php?username=powerful.pineapple Her account on Comic Fury] - She has a few forums she is active on, but this is the main one. Has a links to a few other shitty comics by her that never got off the ground.<br />
*[http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1710032/Pineapple-Inc Her Fanfiction account] - Makes her comic seem divine by comparison. Contains [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5523217/1/Of-Witches-and-Werewolves ''Twillight'' rewrite], [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5695628/1/Fireflies FMA/Harry Potter crossover] and [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5655992/1/Instinct gay sex story about an obscure anime].<br />
*[http://flattr.com/profile/powerfulpineapple/things Another account she uses to whore for donations.]<br />
*[http://www.gentlegamez.com/ I think this might be her new blog.] - It is about buying video games. Which are more important to her than clean water.<br />
*[http://comicartcommissions.com/Alex3097.html This is where she tires to sell commissions] - Who would pay for this?<br />
*[http://www.redbubble.com/people/remember20 Online shop where she sells hipster crap] - I wonder how much of the proceeds go to poor, battered wives.<br />
*[http://chaiaddict.blogspot.co.il/ Her blog about expensive tea.]<br />
*[http://www.cracked.com/members/one_underscore/ Her account on cracked.] - dead, but contains what I think is her real name.<br />
*[http://www.boopets.com/profile.php?username=one_underscore A virtual pet site account.]<br />
*[http://www.creatureworld.net/userinfo.php?userid=14001 Another One.] - Here she won the "Crybaby Award".<br />
*[http://www.virtualpetlist.com/entry.php/625-Rejected A post on another blog/forum where she complains she got two rejection letters] - Gee, I wonder why.</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Firework_Comic&diff=4458Firework Comic2013-09-15T10:39:37Z<p>DentsAndDings: /* Author biography */</p>
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|'''Original review author:'''<br />
| [[User:oddguy|oddguy]]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Webcomic name:'''<br />
| [http://web.archive.org/web/20130403131247/http://fireworkcomic.com/comics/first/ Firework Comic] - link to web archive because the comic was deleted before I could finish the review but there are still a few pages left there and a few more [http://fireworkcomic.com/comics cached by Google] or in the [https://www.google.com/search?q=http://fireworkcomic.com/comics&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:he:official&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1rQPUo-KH4_TsgaJ14HYDQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=626#imgdii=_ image search.] The comic might return later.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Author:'''<br />
| [http://comicfury.com/profile.php?username=powerful.pineapple Chelsey Marrington] AKA E.A. Aleksandoroff/E.A. Alex/powerfulpineapple/one_underscore and probably a few others.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Start Date:'''<br />
| At the bottom of each page it is copyrighted 2006-2011 but the first page was posted on October 2011.<br />
|-<br />
|'''End Date:'''<br />
| Last page posted on 1st Jul 2013.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Genre:'''<br />
| It says "A sci-fi young adult webcomic" and I have to take her word for it because I couldn't even understand the plot.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
| The incompetent art really compliments the inept writing.<br />
|}<br />
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'''Rating Summary'''<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable" style="width:600px"><br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Art:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]] The art looks like it was made by someone going through cocaine withdrawal.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]] Impossible to understand yet strangely enraging.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Characters:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]] All insufferable embodiments of hot topic among the tumblr social justice community.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]][[File:Wiki.png|70px]] Check the fucking bio section and you will flip.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]] If I printed this comic and folded it into a crane, that crane would come to life and fly head first into an oil spill.<br />
|}<br />
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==Background==<br />
<br />
For the first time ever I am posting a review about a comic that is already gone. I started writing this review a while ago and when I came back to it today I noticed the comic had been deleted. Seeing as how I have already done most of the work and had someone make some Photoshop edits for me I figured I might as well pick up the scraps of the comic that are still online, edit the review to reflect that it is gone and finish writing it. But that is not the only reason I didn't want to just delete this and move on.<br />
<br />
If you are on Tumblr a lot you might already know this story. For those who don't, let me just say that the creator of this comic, besides the unforgivable crime of making the comic itself, was involved in another massive drama where she exposed herself to be one of the most awful people I have had the displeasure of coming across. After the fact she deleted all traces of what had gone on and went AWOL. But recently it seems she has come back out of hiding thinking the storm has passed and everyone will just forget about what she had done and move on. Before that happens I would like to record the events and her comic, which is review worthy in its own right, for posterity.<br />
<br />
Some people take issue with this site's tendency to criticize the authors of comics alongside their work. Many feel this undermines our intent of being a serious review site. And, although I could write an entire article explaining our rationale behind this, let me now just summarize. We do this for two reasons, the first is that in the unique medium of webcomics, where your interaction with readers is direct, immediate and unsupervised by someone who's job it is to keep you in check, managing your public persona becomes a part of being a good webcomic artist and deserves to be a subject of critique. The second is that, while bad webcomics are a dime a dozen, we are still (to some extent) a wiki. And that is why we must document not only the ''worst'' webcomics but also the most ''noteworthy''. And what makes something more noteworthy on the Internet than drama from the person who created it?<br />
<br />
So with no further ado, ''"Firework Comic"''.<br />
<br />
==Downfall==<br />
<br />
Right at the start. [http://web.archive.org/web/20130403131247/http://fireworkcomic.com/comics/first/ The first page] is so bad it looks like it's a parody of something.<br />
<br />
==Story, Plot and Writing==<br />
<br />
I am combining all of these sections into one for a simple reason - I have no idea what the hell I just read.<br />
<br />
In the [http://web.archive.org/web/20130403085117/http://fireworkcomic.com/thel1team/ synopsis of the plot] it is explained that the story is about a future world where the police/bounty hunters (it isn't clear) are fighting to stop youth crime. It seems that adults committing crimes aren't important. What IS important is 14 year olds doing graffiti. So the bounty hunters are paid by sponsors to stop these crimes in space (we are told so but they never actually go there). Besides the obvious question of how the hell teenagers are committing crime outside of earth (even in a future world spaceships can't be cheap enough to buy with your allowance) the most prominent thing is that this plot sounds like a half assed rip-off version of Cowboy Bebop.<br />
<br />
That is all I could understand about the plot because I could not figure out who anyone is. The art was so bad and the dialog was so incoherent that I struggled to understand who any of the characters are and the typos, spelling errors, poor grammar, internet abbreviations in place of words and smudged text that I couldn't read only made matters worse. That really is the long and short of it. I read what they are saying, I looked at what was drawn and I didn't know if the person who is talking now is the same one who was talking in the previous panel.<br />
<br />
Other than that the comic is heavily influenced by the tumblr Social Justice movement that boils down to declaring people guilty of not being minorities. According to these people all men are rapists, all white people are racists, if you are rich you are oppressing the poor by being rich and so on. "Alex" clings strongly to these ideas and her main character is a tansgender-ish, poor woman who everyone oppresses simply by being different than her. In other words she is a giant, man-hating racist... BUT WAIT! She can't be a racist or a discriminator because...<br><br />
<br><br />
<br />
[[File:9c633d8f74eff5a288db62ebdb98c5f92022208456.jpg]]<br><br />
<br><br />
<br />
Even worse is the fact that she is also a self insert, as can be told by the fact that [http://web.archive.org/web/20121112071051/http://powerful-pineapple.deviantart.com/ the profile picture on her old, deleted DevianArt account is a photo of her with the line art of the character drawn over her.] More evidence to that fact incude that character bio that mentions she uses morality as an excuse to bully people, which is something Alex actually did (more on that in the bio). <br />
<br />
So, although I can't comment much on the plot,having understood none of it besides that they are fighting a monstar made of bananas and yogurt (I think),I can comment on the general undertone of the comic which is driven by the same mix of jealousy and white guilt as the rest of Tumblr's social justice crowd.<br />
<br />
I was able to contact the creator of the comic to try and figure out where I can read it again. She didn't respond but [http://comicfury.com/forum/viewthread.php?id=15177&page=1#p376391 pointed me to a thread] where it seems she is saying the comic will return. If it ever does I promise to read it a hundred more times in hope that maybe some microscopic part of this story will become more clear to me so I can better write this section. Until then my review can be summarized with one word: "...What?".<br />
<br />
==Art review==<br />
<br />
The art is really the crowning failure of this comic. As I had already explained, thanks to the art I have no idea what this comic is even about. The chosen style is (what else?) manga. And compounding the problem that in manga art is simplistic and the faces look the same is the artist's hilarious lack of ability to draw.<br />
<br />
Everyone looks fucking deformed in this comic. They look like melted wax sculptures. They look like they grew up next to a power plant. At one point [http://kwhynot.tumblr.com/search/firework-comic someone attempted to criticize her art on some forum and she told him to go burn himself to death and then asked one of the moderators to ban him]. By the way, she will still block you and complain to the staff if you so much as ask her a question in a way she doesn't like or delete your comments from her comic. But after she tried to get him booted off the forum she actually tried to take his advice and add color to the comic which only made things worse. At least when she was copying japanese manga all you had is two dimensional line art. When she attempted to add some sort of depth and volume to it everyone's heads began looking like potatoes. She couldn't even put the facial features in the right place and people's noses were underneath one eye or the other instead of the center of their face. Sometimes, instead of a nose, she would just draw a pair of nostrils that made me feel like I am reading the life story of Voldemort.<br />
<br />
I have no words to describe what is wrong with the art because it is simply everything.<br />
<br />
<font size="3">Just look at it...</font><br />
<br><br />
<br />
[[File:D55b4f58027d5844e3a2f0c5cc897b8c1356419852.jpg]]<br><br />
<br><br />
<font size="5">LOOK AT IT!</font><br />
<br />
[[File:Potatoes.png]]<br><br />
<br><br />
<br />
<font size="7">'''LOOK AT IT!!!!!!'''</font><br />
<br />
[[File:Wtf.png]]<br />
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==Author biography== <br />
<br />
This is where the meat is. This is the juicy part of the review. This is what all the drama whores like myself will probably come here to read.<br />
<br />
So what did this girl do that was so bad? Well, let me tell you a story:<br><br />
There once was a poor, underprivileged girl who couldn't even afford food. From the day she could walk she had to get a job to support her deadbeat parents who wouldn't give her enough money to eat or even for clean water. Every night she would lay hungry in bed and cry herself to sleep as she fantasized about her only dream - to be an artist.<br />
<br />
That is the story of our poor "Pineapple". But she would not give up! Together with another underprivileged friend they joined forces on Tumblr and created two blogs "[http://aboutmaleprivilege.tumblr.com AboutMalePrivilege]" and "[http://thisiswealthyprivilege.tumblr.com/ ThisIsWealthPrivilege]" to fight the evils of the upper class, expose the wrongdoings of the patriarchy and insult girls suffering from anorexia... wait, what?<br />
<br />
Yes, it seems powerful Pineapple was not at all poor. I read somewhere that she hinted that she is also of color but that is also probably a lie. She and her friend decided to pretend to be starved children, when in reality Pineapple was a spoiled, upper middle class girl who spent her money buying video games and collecting expensive, rare tea (if that isn't proof she is white I don't know what is... can you think of a whiter hobby?). She and her friend used the blog not only to garner pity, but also to send pictures of food to blogs about eating disorders and insult the handicapped. At one point one of them recorded a response instead of writing it and when she was asked by a deaf person for a transcript she laughed at him/her. I even found a mention of her possibly making anti-semitic statements.<br />
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All of this ended up exploding in her face when she pretended to need money to help her go to art school and came up with a brilliant plan... '''[http://neil-gaiman.tumblr.com/post/40049695398/this-probably-wont-work-but-im-at-my-wits-end-im-a ASK NEIL FUCKING GAIMAN FOR IT!]''' Yes! She contacted the famous writer and comic artist [http://www.neilgaiman.com/ Neil Gaiman] on his blog to tell him that she is a poor starving girl whose only dream it is to go to art school and has two days to come up with 5000$ so she can go. Gaiman in response reblogged her post so that people could donate to her assuming that this was what she wanted, and the general consensus is that this was her plan all along. However, I think she was actually hoping he would '''just give her the money'''. When this happened people began investigating and found out that everything she said was a lie. She was pretending she didn't have money to eat so that people would give her money to buy more video games.<br />
<br />
When everything came to light she freaked out, accused people of stalking her, shut down her blogs (they seem to be back now) and deleted everything. For a moment I thought about saving every page of her comic before she deleted that too, which I now seriously regret not doing.<br />
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Oh, and on the "Firework" website she sold T-shirts saying that 20% of the profits will go to shelters for abused women. Which, if it was a lie (it probably was), will mean she was not only running ONE donation scam but '''TWO''' of them at the same time! B^Uckley could learn a thing or two from this girl.<br />
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==Conclusion==<br />
<br />
As of late the comic's site has been redirecting to a tribute page for [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin Trayvon Martin] (still trying to pretend she is some kind of hero of the people) and "Alex" [http://comicfury.com/forum/viewthread.php?id=15177&page=1#p376391 posted a thread] saying the comic will eventual resume. All further attempts to find out when or how to read the previous pages were to no avail. I found some clues that point to her deleting the comic in the past. Still, I am doubtful she will really continue it so I am not going to wait for that to happen before making a review.<br />
<br />
So, in conclusion, her comic was one of the stupidest, most ugly, most poorly written naked money-grabs in the history of webcomics. The art was an atrocity and the writing was a call to arms against all white, heterosexual, male americans for their crime of making people jealous.<br />
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You can no longer read her comic, but until it is returned you can at least read this review to soak up its awfulness by proxy.<br />
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==Links==<br />
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*[http://web.archive.org/web/20130403131247/http://fireworkcomic.com/comics/first/ What is left of the comic.] - Avert your eyes children.<br />
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<u>'''On Tumlbr'''</u><br />
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*[http://aboutmaleprivilege.tumblr.com Her man-hate blog.] - I am not sure if this is the original one.<br />
*[http://thisiswealthyprivilege.tumblr.com/ Her blog for pretending to be poor.] - Again, not sure if it is her because I remember her deleting it.<br />
*[http://wtfsocialjustice.tumblr.com/post/41076704484/firework-comic-the-cliffnotes-ish-version Tumblr post where the truth is exposed] - in [http://wtfsocialjustice.tumblr.com/post/40869713210/aboutmaleprivileges-owner-needs-to-check-their another post] this person literally found her house (she posted her address online at some point) and... just look at it. Poor my ass.<br />
*[http://thatisnotmaleprivilege.tumblr.com/ A mock blog] - Making fun of her feminism blog.<br />
*[http://special-snowflake-hall-of-fame.tumblr.com/search/manganomicon All posts regarding her comic on another tumblr that used to mock her] and all posts [http://special-snowflake-hall-of-fame.tumblr.com/tagged/thisiswealthyprivilege about her]. Contains a few of the first pages of the comic.<br />
*[http://factualwiley.tumblr.com/tagged/aboutmaleprivilege Yet another tumblr that exposed her lies].<br />
*[http://kwhynot.tumblr.com/search/firework-comic And this guy got told on to mods for telling her nicely she needs to draw better].<br />
*[http://shittywebcomics.tumblr.com/tagged/firework All posts about this on the "Shitty Webcomics" tumblr].<br />
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There are a number of other blogs on Tumblr that have commented or made fun of what happened and I strongly advise anyone who liked this review to Google it. <br />
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<u>'''On Other Sites'''</u><br />
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*[http://comicfury.com/profile.php?username=powerful.pineapple Her account on Comic Fury] - She has a few forums she is active on, but this is the main one. Has a links to a few other shitty comics by her that never got off the ground.<br />
*[http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1710032/Pineapple-Inc Her Fanfiction account] - Makes her comic seem divine by comparison. Contains [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5523217/1/Of-Witches-and-Werewolves ''Twillight'' rewrite], [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5695628/1/Fireflies FMA/Harry Potter crossover] and [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5655992/1/Instinct gay sex story about an obscure anime].<br />
*[http://flattr.com/profile/powerfulpineapple/things Another account she uses to whore for donations.]<br />
*[http://www.gentlegamez.com/ I think this might be her new blog.] - It is about buying video games. Which are more important to her than clean water.<br />
*[http://comicartcommissions.com/Alex3097.html This is where she tires to sell commissions] - Who would pay for this?<br />
*[http://www.redbubble.com/people/remember20 Online shop where she sells hipster crap] - I wonder how much of the proceeds go to poor, battered wives.<br />
*[http://chaiaddict.blogspot.co.il/ Her blog about expensive tea.]<br />
*[http://www.cracked.com/members/one_underscore/ Her account on cracked.] - dead, but contains what I think is her real name.<br />
*[http://www.boopets.com/profile.php?username=one_underscore A virtual pet site account.]<br />
*[http://www.creatureworld.net/userinfo.php?userid=14001 Another One.] - Here she won the "Crybaby Award".<br />
*[http://www.virtualpetlist.com/entry.php/625-Rejected A post on another blog/forum where she complains she got two rejection letters] - Gee, I wonder why.</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Pebble_Version&diff=4457Pebble Version2013-09-15T10:02:44Z<p>DentsAndDings: grammar</p>
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|'''Original review author:'''<br />
|[http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/sasamy Sasamy]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Webcomic name:'''<br />
|[http://www.pebbleversion.com/ Pebble Version]<br />
|-<br />
|'''Author:'''<br />
|"[http://www.josiahlebowitz.com/ Josiah Lebowitz]"<br />
|-<br />
|'''Start Date'''<br />
|August 11th, 2013<br />
|-<br />
|'''End Date'''<br />
|Ongoing<br />
|-<br />
|'''Genre'''<br />
|Sprite Comic (I guess you could call that a genre) <br />
|-<br />
|'''Defining Flaw'''<br />
|God-awfully long and boring.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Things that are fucking terrible about this webcomic:'''<br />
|It's boring to look at and boring to look through, then goes that extra mile by being bland. <br />
|-<br />
|'''Things that aren't terrible but could use improvement:'''<br />
|The strips are only four panels each, so it’ll only eat up two years of your life.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Summary:'''<br />
|Zzzzz.<br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
|'''Art'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]All sprite pictures. Need I say more?<br />
|-<br />
|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]Reading this comic is like playing a video game, only without the fun.<br />
|-<br />
|'''Characters:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]Two Pokémon video game sprites who are hardly worth calling "characters". <br />
|-<br />
|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]The story, such as it is, goes on forever. <br />
|-<br />
|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|70px]]Extraordinarily boring and bland, and as entertaining as trying to read through an entire schematic diagram. Go read the book "War And Peace" instead; it won't take nearly as long and will be more interesting to boot.<br />
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==Background==<br />
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Quick survey, everyone who looks at a sprite sheet and goes “This'll make up for my inability to produce talent!” raise your hands. Good, now meet me in the art review.<br />
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[[File:Pebbleversion1.jpg|center|Yes, this sure takes an extreme amount of talent.]]<br />
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As for the rest of you- Oh, wait, everyone who actually said “sprites take talent too!” Close any and all e-mails, instant messages, or registrations to the Bad Webcomics Wiki. Alright, now let’s continue. I read this comic back in my Pokémon daze, which is usually around when they release a new generation, someone on the forums suggested it, and since I've already gotten through the majority of strips, I took a shot. That didn't stop the hundred or so strips I hadn't read from being incredibly boring. Y'see, the thing about Pebble Version, is that it's long, a behemoth even, near 900 strips long, and the way the characters, story, and design are done, makes it incredibly boring.<br />
<br />
==Story and Plot==<br />
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The story follows Brendan and May, those little avatars you’ll play as (the boy Brendan if you’re a guy, and the girl May if you’re a really creepy guy) as they journey through the third generation of Pokémon, sprite comic style. By sprite comic style, I mean they walk. Oh god do they walk. The plot’s basically what you would get if you actually played the game, and despite being damn near six years in the making, Our plucky trainers have just recently gotten their third badge of eight. Expect Josiah to keel before they actually make it to the climax. There's another plot going on about some other organization that Josiah added in himself, those guys pop up once every hundred strips or so, so the only thing we know about them is that [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip100.html they want Mew], [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip300.html and they have problems with lights]<br />
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==Downfall== <br />
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Under normal circumstances you could probably get through this comic. “Just a sprite comic, no worries, little scotch will fix me right up.” That is until you realize that Josiah plans to show you every [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip617.html route], [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip96.html every] [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip97.html Pokédex] [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip98.html entry], [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip476.html every] [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip659.html pointless] [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip612.html battle]. [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip615.html Even the ones with fucking Magikarps.] Most of the time he’ll skip straight to the end, but even that can take two or three strips (When a Pokémon doesn’t spontaneously evolve that is), add to the fact that he even bothers to show you all the pointless little things you can do in the game, like [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip843.html contest], [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip327.html fishing], and [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip658.html treasure hunting]. Suddenly it feels like you’re just watching someone else play the game while you look over their shoulder.<br />
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That’s when the comic’s unbearable.<br />
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==Art review==<br />
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[[File:Pebbleversion2.jpg|center|Read the comic and see tons of strips that look exactly like this.]]<br />
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Alright all you ''spriters'', as you like to be called, I’d like to have a word with you. You know how you replace art you worked on with sprites other people worked on, then use them to show the world your superb sense of humor/who you think is the true one true pairing/whatever the fuck? ''Fucking stop it''. You can’t do it, it’s just not possible. Try as you might you won’t be able to make your characters convey any emotion besides [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip12.html fright] and [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip504.html unamusement]. Pebble Version, being the best (worst?) at what it does, goes one step beyond by doing practically nothing with the sprites it’s given. See that little dark pixel that’s on Brendan’s eye? That’s his eyelid, he shows you his disdain by slightly lowering his eyelids, [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip509.html and] [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip511.html he’ll] [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip512.html do] [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip515.html it] [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip519.html a lot]. Even [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip510.html May] gets in on the single pixel action! Of course, what would bland unimaginative emotions be without the classic [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip508.html anime sweat drop]? Josiah does use [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip632.html blurs] for whenever someone throws their balls (hawhehawhehaw), or whenever Pokémon are killing each other. Both of these do little more than set up jokes, and make battle sequences look [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip381.html retarded]. Probably the best reason I can think of to never use Pokémon sprites for a sprite comic is that they [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip373.html can’t do shit]. You wouldn’t even know that it just kicked him in the face if the trainers didn’t have to blurt out every goddamn command to their little death critters. Pokémon sprites are a death sentence for a sprite comic, because one, you won't be able to actually make them ''battle'' (Y'now, that thing the Pokémon games are about?) and two, because if you're using Pokémon sprites, chances are everyone will be able to guess what your writing's like. Speaking of which...<br />
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==Writing review== <br />
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The writing, like its sis the art, manages to be bland and uninteresting. Strips tend to be dominated by [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip543.html text bubbles] due in part to the panels being small and the characters having diarrhea mouth. Jokes tend to fall under either [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip581.html "hilarious" Pokédex entries] [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip516.html motion blur jokes] or [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip596.html Brendan pointing out plot holes]. There’s a bunch of other running gags that follow the same routine, which may force a slight “heh” out of someone, maybe. <br />
As for characters, it’s like your standard case of "Designate character trait" then "Roll with it". Brendan’s existence hinders on “point out all the Pokémon physics and snark about them”, [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip5.html this despite the fact he grew up in Johto, where the same physics applied]. There isn't a thing he seems to be able to do without bitching about how things in his world of mutants created by a god that is one of said mutants that shaped the universe with his non-existent thousand hands shouldn't work that way. May’s a bit more interesting, though, that’s like wood being more interesting than cardboard. She’s Brendan’s Mrs. Exposition, so she explains all the Pokémon physics for him to snark about. One thing I liked particularly about her is in [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip595.html this strip]. She seems to actually take an interest in things occasionally, and doesn't immediatly try to piss in someone's tent like Brendan, who does it to her right there, [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip608.html then he does it again]. There’s also Xain and Cali, their rivals. Screentime for them is either A) Being lost or B) Being dicks to Brendan and May. They’re rivals, so I guess they’re supposed to be secondary characters and assholes, but since whenever they're on screen they either perform the aforementioned dickery or be lost, they might as well be background characters, or one of the trainers of the strip. Trainers of the strip is the term I coined (read: ripped off from the guys who coined the term "trainer of the day" for the anime) for the men and women that Brendan and May feel they have to talk to, because the Pokémon physics say so. Like in the games, they have no personality other than that they will constantly <strike>help</strike> badger you with whatever information they feel is relevant, even when it's not. In here, it's taken to its [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip6.html logical(?)] extreme. For comedy, I guess. Doesn't really get a laugh so much as it does waste more time that could be spent developing the main characters or their equally flat rivals. It's also another reason why this comic has a fucking huge archive, so they don't help at all, really. Ironic.<br />
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<br />
Since Josiah insist of showing you '''EVERYTHING''', it takes one hell of a long time for shit to get done, or get anywhere. Currently there’s [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip136.html the mystery of Brendan’s Mew], [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip100.html the mysterious organization that wants to catch Mew], [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip514.html the side plot about Team Aqua and Team Magma from the game] and [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip1.html the actual fucking plot of the comic]. Each of these plots get about 5% of development per 100 strips. If you bothered to do the math (why?) then you'll notice that 640 strips have been about all of these plots combined. What's the other 249 (Well, as of this writing) been used for? [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip633.html Stupid shit, mostly]. You'll get a tsunami of Pokédex and trainer jokes for the first couple fifty or so strips, then something will happen to advance the plot of one of the aforementioned plots. More stupid shit, something happens to advance the plot of another plot. The second plot advanced is usually about the mysterious organization, but the most we know about them so far is that they're apparently run by [http://www.pebbleversion.com/Archives/Strip500.html vague green and gray blobs]. Unless they're Jesse and James of Team Rocket, then the big reveal will most definitely be underwhelming, and if they are Jesse and James, I called it. So we've got boring main characters, boring rivals, plots that aren't going anywhere, and jokes that aren't funny. What did we learn here?...Well, we learned that.<br />
<br />
==Author biography== <br />
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I don’t know much about Josiah, but he seems to be a pretty cool dude, despite the fact he goes the typical route and whores out for donations. One weird thing I can't make out is his About Me page. For some reason, I think there's Final Fantasy stats on it...Weird...anyways, the only thing he's done that should be frowned upon is asking for donations. Shame on you, Mr. Lebowitz.<br />
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==Conclusion==<br />
<br />
This comic is the epitome of bland sprite comics. The jokes are bland, the characters are bland, the sprites are bland and the plot is moving at a snail's pace. You'd be better off waiting until Josiah Lebowitz XVI finishes the comic, then waiting until some brave soul ventures into the massive archive to snip out all the jokes and pointless side quest.<br />
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==Links== <br />
<br />
* [http://www.Pebbleversion.com Pebble Version.] Good luck getting through this.</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=PikaSemeChu&diff=4400PikaSemeChu2013-09-13T03:08:15Z<p>DentsAndDings: spelling</p>
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<td width="118">Review Author:</p></td><br />
<td width="367">[http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/megarose MegaRose]<br />
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<td>Title:</td><br />
<td>[http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/ PikaSemeChu]<br />
</td><br />
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<td>Author:</td><br />
<td>[http://www.smackjeeves.com/profile.php?id=18347 "Yassa" (or "Yatcha")]<br />
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<td>Start Date:</td><br />
<td> June 05, 2007<br />
</td><br />
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<td>End Date:</td><br />
<td> Hasn't been updated since May 14, 2010 <br />
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<td>Genre:</td><br />
<td> Softcore Anime Furry Yaoi. (Fanfiction)<br />
</td><br />
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<td>Defining Flaw:</td><br />
<td> Every character (males, females, humans, and furries) looks exactly like every other character. <br />
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<td>Things that are fucking terrible about this webcomic:</td><br />
<td> Pokémon is a children's multimedia franchise about a 10-year-old boy and his adorable fighting mouse. PikaSemeChu is about said boy getting lovingly raped by said mouse, in a glorious explosion of shoujo screentones.<br />
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<td>Things that aren't terrible but could use improvement:</td><br />
<td> Yassa could be a good artist if she learned real anatomy instead of aping the styles of Japanese mangaka.<br />
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<td>Summary:</td><br />
<td> PikaSemeChu is a furry-on-human butthump cocktease that's too bland to even be disgusted at.<br />
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{| style="color: White; background-color: #003366;" class="wikitable"<br />
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|'''Art'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]][[File:Wiki.png|65px]][[File:Wiki.png|65px]] Bad anatomy on both humans and animals, poor layouts, excessive use of screentones which result in muddy pictures.<br />
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|-<br />
|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]][[File:Wiki.png|65px]] Pokémon fucking either their human trainers or each other. Really.<br />
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|-<br />
|'''Characters:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]] This webcomic uses the characters from the "Pokémon" television show, but the characters hardly behave like their TV counterparts.<br />
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|-<br />
|'''Miscellaneous Details:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]][[File:Wiki.png|65px]] In an ironic twist, this material, which would normally get an "Atomic Bomb" rating, is too ineptly done to really be shocking.<br />
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|-<br />
|'''Overall:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]][[File:Wiki.png|65px]] Horribly and incompetently drawn and written porn of a children's television program.<br />
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==Background==<br />
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PikaSemeChu is Pokémorph yaoi. Before I explain why this is horrible, I want to make sure all our readers understand what that means. A 'Pokémorph' is an anthropomorphic Pokémon that combines the features of both Pokémon and humans. In short: a furry. 'Yaoi' is a Japanese term for effeminate male-on-male pornography (as a side note, a 'seme' is the guy on top, and 'uke' is the guy on the bottom). PikaSemeChu is gay furry porn. I think you can see why PikaSemeChu is on the Bad Webcomics Wiki.<br />
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For those who aren't into [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon Pokémon,] here's a quick primer. The Pokémon cartoon show follows the adventures of 10-year-old Ash Ketchum and his friends Misty and Brock. Ash's favorite Pokémon is a little yellow mouse named Pikachu that has electricity-based powers. Episodes of Pokémon usually involve Ash meeting new Pokémon, helping them out of some problem, then ordering Pikachu to electrocute the main villains, a couple of incompetent humans and a talking cat named Meowth. That's pretty much it. PikaSemeChu is filled with subtly terrible things that only a long-time Pokémon (i.e., me) fan would be mad at, but you should be able to figure out why the comic is bad.<br />
<br />
==Story and Plot==<br />
<br />
[[File:pscAss.JPG|thumb|right|200px]]<br />
<br />
PikaSemeChu starts its epic journey of faggotry by [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/165599/page1/ removing one third of the human protagonist]. There's no explanation for why Brock has abandoned these unsupervised 10-year-olds in the monster infested wilderness, but it's obvious that Yassa just doesn't find him attractive enough (or gay enough) to bother thinking about. Is it so hard to add in a single line to explain his disappearance? Seriously, just say he has an errand to run, or a woman to molest, or shit, say he 'went to college' or something. Even the writers of ''Blue's Clues'' felt that their audience was smart enough to need an explanation for major cast changes! Considering that Brock has a pretty good fanbase amongst Pokémon fangirls, I think Yassa needs to consider her audience more when she barfs this stuff out.<br />
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But anyways, a strange new (fake) Pokémon appears! [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/165600/page2/ It has balls on its head and the power to turn Pokémon into furries.] Also, [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/165608/page9/ the only noise it makes is the word 'horny.'] Since most Pokémon only say their own names, this is has some pretty retarded implications. So anyways, Horny has the power to turn Pokémon into Pokémorphs, and every time this happens the Pokémon starts expressing aggressive sexual lust for its master. The entirety of this comic is just various Pokémon trying to fuck their trainers or each other.<br />
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Now, here's the kicker: after finding out about the Horny Pokémon, Ash seeks it out in hopes of turning his Pikachu into a [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/165605/page6/ hot female sex slave.] The Pokémon cartoon first aired in America in 1998, and yet PikaSemeChu began in 2007. Now, do you REALLY think that in nine years, the series would NEVER have mentioned the gender of its main mascot? Actually, in the English dub it has been said outright that Pikachu is male. There is absolutely no way that Ash would have made that mistake. Even if he had, the boy is ten years old. And yes, Pokémon is one of those shows where the characters never age. It takes a very special type of ten-year-old to think that turning a pet mouse into a sex slave is a good idea. The protagonist of a children's cartoon is not that type of boy. Yassa tries to claim that Ash is now [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/203519/page-54/ seventeen,] but come the fuck on. [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/166603/page18/ He is tiny.]<br />
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The fun continues when [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/195869/page-44/ Misty's Psyduck,] [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/447476/page-98/ Team Rocket's Meowth and Persian,] and some [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/448036/page-99/ random-ass Voltorb] get turned into furries as well. Despite Psyduck being a fat, incompetent, retarded platypus and Meowth being a wobbly rubberhose caricature of a lucky cat statue, their human forms both have the same toned, androgynous physique that Pikachu has. All these Pokémon [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/504155/page-117/ have an orgy when Ash isn't looking.]<br />
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And somewhere in this mess of aimless 'character development' Ash [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/496549/page105/ gets attacked by a dick.] For some reason.<br />
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Later on, the villainous kitty-cats [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/682411/page-144/ find a way to turn back into Pokémon.] This prospect is treated as a horrible idea. After all, after one day in the form of a weak pink rape-hungry monkey, why would anyone want to go back to being a fierce super-powered fighting beast? As this is happening, Misty confesses her love for <s>her bike</s> Ash, which is a revelation so shocking that [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/688288/page-152/ it makes peoples' eyes fall out.] Infuriated that he can't have her all to his lusty self, Psyduck [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/690235/page-153/ smacks her upside her bitch face.] PikaSemeChu embraces abuse of all kinds.<br />
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==Downfall==<br />
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This comic sucked <s>when she got rid of Brock</s> before the creator even thought of it. Yassa isn't the first to <s>[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Tracy replace Brock with some shitty bullshit character]</s> [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Shipping:PikaShipping pair up Ash with Pikachu], nor will she be the last, and this idea will never, ever work.<br />
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==Author biography==<br />
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All I can find about Yassa is a SmackJeeves profile, linked at the top of the page. She's 20, out of highschool, and doesn't give her real name. I get the impression that she's a pretty typical teenaged yaoi fan. Basically, if you've ever met an excessively bubbly DeviantArt member who describes anime characters as 'teh smex,' you've met Yassa. I have to wonder, however, why a 19 year old would write a comic about raping 10-year-olds, but pretend that they're 17. That's...that's still statuatory, guys. I know this comic has been running for like three years and she was presumably 17 when she started it, but she's ''still doing it.'' This is just going to get creepier and creepier. And no Yassa, [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/689334/extra/ aging up the characters] doesn't count if no time passes in the actual plot.<br />
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==Art review==<br />
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[[file:pscFlounderFace.JPG|thumb|left|180px]]<br />
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I get the feeling that Yassa learned to draw by tracing CLAMP manga instead of taking notes in class. There is no anatomy in this comic. Everyone has [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/165608/page9/ freakishly long limbs and torsos], [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/214281/page-68/ limp, wispy, nondescript hair], [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/165611/page11/ no chin,] [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/168859/page-21/ and lopsided heads that swivel 180 degrees on thick meaty necks.] It takes far too much concentration to figure out who's who in this fucking comic. [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ash Ash] is a boy with dark spiky hair that sticks out at the sides. [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Misty Misty] is a girl with bright red hair in a side ponytail. How the FUCK did Yassa turn them into identical twins? The transformed Pokémon add to the confusion by looking the same as everyone else, but taller (the beautiful Adonis that is [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/476173/filler/ Voltorb] excluded). [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/215627/page-70/ Look at this page and try to figure out which character is which.] The only visual cues you get are very arbitrary; one of them has a ponytail, one of them has furry ears, etc. Unfortunately, Yassa is a fan of closeups (which usually result in creepy wide-eyed, big-lipped [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/623060/page-138/ fish faces]), so these little clues are frequently cropped out. Her understanding of animal anatomy is no better. I can see why she'd turn all the Pokémon into humans, since her attempt at drawing a cat created a [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/446716/page-95/ beefy kangaroo-monkey.]<br />
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Yassa's terrible drawing skills are complimented by her terrible layout skills. According to her, [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/191586/page-41/ dedicating half a page to a cheap explosion effect] is an acceptable form of storytelling. Notice that the other half of that page is dominated by pencil smudges and screentone. Yassa LOVES screentone. There are so many indistinguishable shades of grey in this comic that every page becomes a box of mud. Color would have made this comic easier to read, but would only serve to distract you from the terrible drawing and layout.<br />
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The overall effect is boring. PikaSemeChu seems to be about a single character who spontaneously grows furry ears or pigtails, as he/she/it wades through a murky sea of grayscale. There's nothing visually interesting here. Even when something 'interesting' is happening, the panels are either so muddy or so poorly composed that you can't even tell what's going on. On the rare occasion that you can decipher this pile of gray shit, you'll probably be horrified by the lanky stick-bodies contorting around in what is supposed to be 'kawaii' and 'arousing.' You know, if you're not ALREADY horrified by the tall muscular Pokémon attempting to rape a 10-year-old boy.<br />
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Oh, hey, here's a good example: [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/254740/page-73/ the darkest, most clearly defined lines on this page are the ones that make up Pikachu's tailbutt.] This is intended to be 'erotic.'<br />
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==Writing review== <br />
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Yassa's writing is even worse than her art. Really though, this is gay furry softcore porn, the writing is only there to shove all the characters into the situations that Yassa wants. Thus, everybody is out of character. Everyone is a pervert, [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/177750/page-35/ Pikachu is a rapist], and nobody stops to think that maybe ten-year-olds shouldn't be thinking about sex to begin with.<br />
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If you're a fan of Pokémon, this comic is extra infuriating. Yassa has written out Brock, Jesse, and James, made [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/257442/page-76/ Psyduck into the voice of reason,] made Meowth [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/512800/page-123/ fall in love] with "Pikachu-san", and given [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/514869/page-126/ Giovanni's Persian] a speaking role, among other things. She basically does not give a shit. I actually question whether or not she actually likes Pokémon. This comic suggests that she really just likes the idea of ten-year-old boys getting raped by mouse furries.<br />
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After becoming human, Pikachu immediately takes every opportunity to try and rape his beloved trainer. Understandably pissed, Ash locks the damn thing into a room all day where it learns English from [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/172124/page-27/ the most bewildering thing you will ever read.] Seriously, I have no words for that piece of bullshit. When Ash comes home (in the show, the characters are perpetually traveling, where is he coming home to?!) Pikachu starts talking about sex and attempting to kiss him. Ash flips the fuck out (as he should), and Pikachu...sulks about how his trainer doesn't 'love' him anymore. [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/257900/page-77/ And he keeps sulking.] Apparently being a crazy pedo rapist isn't disgusting or hateable, it's TRAGIC and SEXY. Eventually the Pokémon just try to [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/516900/page-129/ rape each other,] but the message remains clear: don't stop loving little boys, you beautiful molester! If you just be patient, [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/264137/page-79/ they'll come around!] Surely enough, Ash realizes that he's [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/495463/page-102/ totally in love with his pet rat.]<br />
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Misty on the other hand, who in the actual Pokémon show is a shrill and implacable harpy, immediately loves the shit out of every random Pokémorph who wanders into the plot, even when said Pokémon is a villain who has spent the last several years attempting to abduct or cause harm to pretty much every living thing she has come in contact with. I think Yassa may be projecting [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/504979/page-119/ babyfur fantasies] onto the poor character. In any case, Misty gets what she deserves when her bespectacled freak-duck starts undressing her in her sleep. [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/522889/page-133/ Voltorb gets to watch.]<br />
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[[File:pscHorny_2.JPG|thumb|right|180px]]<br />
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Yassa also likes to speckle her dialogue with... unnecessary ellipses... and... [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/165599/page1/ write down the characters' emotions instead of drawing expressions]. I mean, I think these are emotions. [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/504978/page-118/ 'Stoned'] makes sense (although not in context), but what the hell is [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/comics/628660/page-140/ 'junky'] supposed to mean? When she's not twisting a childrens' cartoon show to meet her perversions, she's using every trick in the bad shoujo mangaka's handbook. The end result is poor pacing and poor characterization. You are given no reason to care whether or not the ten-year-old gets raped, or how the characters feel, or what will happen next. There is nothing compelling here.<br />
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==Conclusion==<br />
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[[File:pscHorny.JPG|thumb|right|180px]]<br />
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Do you like Pokémon, shoujo manga, or yaoi? Then you will hate PikaSemeChu. It fails at being all three of these. There is a very specific audience that this comic is tailored to; the only people who would enjoy this comic are the people so sex-crazed that they would jack off to ANYTHING. Who cares if it's poorly drawn and poorly written? It's Pokémon-themed gay furry child pornography! Fapfapfapfapfap!<br />
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But once you've gotten over the incredibly inappropriate themes in PikaSemeChu, you'll be bored to tears by it. The art and writing are so poorly done that you really won't give a fuck about where the plot is going. Is it sad that the wonky anatomy, gratuitous screentone, awful plot and creepy bestial pederasty are completely overshadowed by how badly this comic mutilates the Pokémon canon? Yeah, I think it is.<br />
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==Links== <br />
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* [http://pikasemechu.smackjeeves.com/ PikaSemeChu]<br />
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[[Category:Abandoned]]</div>DentsAndDingshttps://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Las_Lindas&diff=4170Las Lindas2013-08-27T21:21:03Z<p>DentsAndDings: /* Background */ dead</p>
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[http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/lesbot Lesbot]</td><br />
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<td>Title:</td><br />
<td>[http://laslindas.katbox.net/ Las Lindas]</td><br />
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<td>Author:</td><br />
<td>"[http://chalosan.deviantart.com/ Chalo]", "SoulKat" and "ID_Fox"</td><br />
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<td>Start Date:</td><br />
<td>September 6, 2004</td><br />
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<td>Ongoing</td><br />
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<td>Genre:</td><br />
<td>FURRY FANSERVICE EXTRRRRRRAVAGANZA</td><br />
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<td>Defining Flaw:</td><br />
<td>tits tits tits tits thighs tits big shiny tits tits boobs melons funbags bosoms BIG FURRY COW TITTIES</td><br />
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Poorly-depicted animu with unrealistic floating breasts and sameface syndrome.<br />
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Repetitive theme of a cow girl luring men to her farm and enslaving them to work, then throwing them away when she has no more use for them. Side stories are messy and confusing.<br />
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The protagonist and her minions are completely dislikeable, and the supposed villain is the one who comes across as having redeeming features.<br />
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Even if you like ginormous furry breasts, you'd best seek them out elsewhere.<br />
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===Background===<br />
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By this point everyone in the internet has realised that making a furry porn comic gets you lots of attention with minimum effort. After all, nobody's going to care how likeable your characters are or how interesting your story is as long as you've got a bunch of scantily-clad animal-ladies squeezing themselves into outfits so small their breasts actually begin to disobey gravity. Las Lindas could be considered one of the most perfect examples of this theory. With almost ''five years'' of comics under its belt, lots of boobs have come and gone, bounced and jiggled, hunged and floated. Yet we're ''still'' waiting for at least one slightly interesting character to show up.<br />
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[[File:LL01.gif|thumb|right|500px|Notice how the speech is pulled out of the frame so that we don't miss any of the shiny and circular "action" and "plot". WOOOO!!!]]<br />
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I know it's a harsh generalization to assume that all furries over-sexualize everything to a disturbing degree. That's like assuming that anyone who has ever watched a Japanese cartoon continuously stuffs pocky down their throat and wants to be like Naruto, whatever that entails. But shit like this ''really'' doesn't help defend the sane minority. "Oh boy, just what I always wanted! A comic about cartoon animals with big boobies, having sex and crying and wanting to get their own way all the time!"<br />
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===Story and Plot===<br />
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Our story begins on a sunny little farm in the country, where main character and anthropomorphic cow-woman Mora is [http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=9 struggling] to keep Mummy and Daddy's old farm business blooming. If you're worried about forgetting Mora's face amongst the crowd of ''other'' big-titted animal people that are soon to arrive, don't worry; Mora is always ''instantly recognizable'' by her scowling face. That and even by ''this'' comic's standards Mora must have a spine of fucking steel to lift those gargantuan funbags on her chest. Anyway, '''Moo'''ra doesn't have any money to actually hire help around the farm, so she gets the bright idea to [http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=15 dress like a hooker] and [http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=21 lure in] an unsuspecting male. Thinking Moora is nothing but a harmless prostitute a man agrees to some hot cow sex, but is [http://laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=11 struck unconscious] with a frying pan and made to work on the farm the next day.<br />
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That's right. Moora pretends to be a prostitute to lure a stranger to her house, then physically assaults them. Yet for some reason the cat man actually thinks ''he'' would be in the most trouble if she called the police. So, being the absolute thicko that he has been characterized as ''already'', he [http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=27 sticks around] to stop her getting <strike>them both</strike> him into trouble.<br />
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Unfortunately, would you believe it, her prostitution plan only brought about a man that has ''no experience of farm work''! Disgusted by her captive's inability to do her bidding properly, Moora ventures back out into town in her usual [http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=31 tarty getup]. She's mistaken for a prostitute (fancy that!) and some humans (??) try to rape her. Because, you know, cows with tits are totally what every human would go for. Anyway a much more muscular and impressive cow-man leaps to her rescue and she drags him to her <strike>pit of hell</strike> farm too, though he actually goes by choice.<br />
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Predictably Moora is a sucker for big muscly men that do lots of work and have no personality, so she decides to adhere to her own gender stereotype too and cooks him a [http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=57 lovely meal]. When that fails to lure the man straight into her oversized bovine panties, Moora is determined she's going to have ''some'' sex and does so by [http://laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=29 throwing herself] at a man so short compared to her that it's a wonder she doesn't accidentally crush him during the deed. His usefulness outlived, Moora [http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=63 throws out] the nameless catboy like an old snotty tissue, which accidentally proves to the other guy what a [http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=65 bitch she is].<br />
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(The catboy does have a name, of course, like every other character; but buggered if I could recall it without checking the cast page by this point in the comic. I've always been bad with names, but this shit takes the cake; it's like the writer doesn't even ''want'' me to get attached to these guys. Fortunately it's a furry comic so if anyone asks I can just say "you know... the cat guy. The guy who's a cat. And has ''white'' hair.")<br />
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So she dresses up like a tart to lure men to her house, strikes them unconscious with kitchen implements, threatens them into working for her, uses people for sex then throws them away, and has a fucking temper-tantrum whenever people don't act how she wants them to. ''And this doesn't change.''<br />
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Some other characters are introduced (covered further in the writing review), and there's some plot about the farm being dangerously close to bankruptcy. We're meant to care when the big muscly cow man mysteriously leaves and Moora has [http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=165 yet another tantrum]. There's some arguments, some [http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=177 predictable back story], some [http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=179 whatever] [http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=185 the fuck] [http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=189 this is], but it's all so rushed that it doesn't feel properly connected, more like a jumble of things happening that make no fucking sense. There's plot further on, but by this point you'll most likely be so bored of Moora's whiny self-important bullshit (no pun intended) that you'll have stopped your attempt to read it. You're not really missing out on much either, FYI, since after the farming competition and all that magical drivel, everyone basically just ''goes shopping'' and ''sits around whining about relationships'' forever. I ''had'' to read it all so I could form a fair opinion, but you're okay. You can make a run for it.<br />
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Of course, making even less sense than the main plot are the [http://laslindas.katbox.net/bonus/ bonus comics], a bunch of bouncing titfests where everyone [http://laslindas.katbox.net/bonus_boobs/index.php?strip_id=16 loses their already very basic personality traits] and just [http://laslindas.katbox.net/bonus_boobs/index.php?strip_id=7 rubs their breasts together]. Their enormous, shiny, rubbery breasts. Yeah, sure, there are some bonus comics that act as "backstories" for various characters, but don't worry; the titties (and ass) are [http://laslindas.katbox.net/bonus_empire/index.php?strip_id=10 still] [http://laslindas.katbox.net/bonus_curve/index.php?strip_id=11 around]. Hooray! Apparently [http://laslindas.katbox.net/bonus_curve/ "Learning Curves"] is a particular favorite amongst fans, because everyone is in COLLEGE and has lots of SEX.<br />
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===Downfall===<br />
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[[File:LL02.jpg|center]]<br />
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First of all, I have nothing against porn comics, even though they're not really my cup of tea. I can respect porn comics for being straightforward about what they are. They don't try to hide the fact that they're wank material; they just thrive on it. Some of them even have a great sense of humor. But fanservice comics are like the cocktease sister of porn comics, strutting around in short-shorts and a beer-soaked babydoll tee while saying "teehee, don't hit on me boys! I have so much plot and character depth!" Las Lindas is exactly this, and for that, it suffers greatly.<br />
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I consider the beginning of the downfall of the comic to be right [http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=13 here], in strip five. Now, I'm going to be nice and ignore all that sultry swanning around naked in a steamy room (even cows gotta bathe I suppose), but those last three panels are just. Fucking. ''Creepy''. Really, Moora? That's how your mind works? You're in a tough situation, so better just pull out the udders and get a big slobbering boy to do the work for you?<br />
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I actually quite like the first four comics. It's a character working hard to try to keep the farm that her parents loved so much. It's practically ''heartwarming'', her doing all the work herself. Maybe it could've been like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvest_Moon_(series) Harvest Moon]; clawing her way up from the bottom of the farm ladder, gradually gaining the trust and affection of the local villagers and eventually even finding love! Awww.<br />
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Oops, no wait, this is Moora, and this is a fanservice comic. "Hey, ''I've got breasts!'' I bet some guy'll do all my work if I show 'em to him!" Right.<br />
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===Art review===<br />
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[[File:LL04.jpg|thumb|right|195px|This is how breasts work ok anime told me so]]<br />
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For a comic that centers almost entirely around a certain part of the female physique, the artist of Las Lindas really doesn't seem to know the first fucking thing about ''breasts''. From day one of this abomination [http://laslindas.katbox.net/bonus_empire/ not] [http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=243 a] [http://laslindas.katbox.net/bonus_curve/index.php?strip_id=9 single] [http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=269 character] seems to think to wear a fucking bra, their enormous melons somehow staying afloat with ''sexy magic''. Even if they were wearing support, it'd have to be made of fucking ''steel'' to keep these breasts in the [http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=375 positions] that they find themselves in. Even the tiny fairy creatures constantly have their [http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=487 nipples sticking out] in ridiculous positions.<br />
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I mean, I'm not a prude or anything. I love a big pair o' tits as much as the next person. But seriously, if you're gonna focus on them that much, at least make them look ''attached''. Everyone looks like they've stapled helium balloons to their chest!<br />
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All of the characters, no matter what species, have the same lumpy anime face that far too many furry artists lazily resort to. Add this to their jiggly jelly anatomy (GOOD HEAVENS WHAT SHINY THIGHS) and really, there's no point at all to this comic being drawn with animals. Remove the little bits of face fluff and the enormous ears (''Moora = cow = bunny ears?'') and tails and they're basically people anyway. Not to mention the whole [http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=103 cows-milking-cows] thing going on is just plain weird and awkward. Las Lindas seems like yet another case of "I would have drawn people but furry porn really rakes in the internet dollars".<br />
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The coloring isn't perfect either. It's bright, which is nice, and it has genuinely improved since the comic's beginning, but none of the cast - despite all being covered in fur - ever actually look ''furry''. They're shaded so smoothly that they all seem to be made out of... well, ''skin''. Moora's fur-color in particular is a good example. There's also the fact that, sometimes, characters' breasts are given ''blushes'' or ''shine'' despite the fur. I guess the tits wouldn't look as ''squeezable'' if you actually shaded the fur though, huh? Guess it turned out pretty inconvenient, your characters being ''covered in fur''.<br />
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===Writing review===<br />
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I'm gonna get straight to it; Moora is a terrible main character. An unlikeable, horrible, bratty, tarty bitch from start to finish, she throws at least one tantrum in every plotline and never learns a single fucking thing without quickly forgetting it afterward. I don't know if we're meant to be immediately attached to her for her enormous thighs or warm to her gradually as she bullies every other character, but either way this is god awful. Moora is mary-sue levels of likability. She's an [http://laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=234 insufferable bitch] living on a farm full of people she bullied and tantrumed into staying with her; characters who are constantly either terrified of her smacking them with her big meaty cow hands or [http://laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=175 hating her]. Despite this we're apparently meant to consider this group of enemies '''~super friends~''' <br />
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Every single male character that is introduced is either fucked by Moora, or has fucked her in the past. Really. [http://laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=29 Every] [http://laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=175 single] [http://laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=238 one]. I'm not sure whether this is meant to make the guys look easy or make Moora look like the village cumbucket; it succeeds at both, really. (The only exception to this rule I've seen is the sheepdog character, who is so [http://laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=210 stereotypically] [http://laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=189 camp] that if you even said the word ''"vagina"'' around him he'd probably wring his hands and scream.) It's often pointed out that Moora goes through men like dinners (judging by her enormous thighs, that's quite a fucking rate) and even when she claims to ''WUV'' someone, still [http://laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=207 belittles] them on a regular basis.<br />
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Moora's happy band of <strike>morons</strike> misfits are a pretty dull bunch generally-speaking, each conforming to a nice comfortable stereotype; <br />
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* Minos, the muscley cow-man, is on the same sort of mary-sue wavelength as Moora, though thankfully he doesn't talk as much. He's constantly wise, calm, sensitive, serene, and all those other things that a man SHOULD be when he is TENDING A GARDEN OF THAT DELICATE FLORAL BLOOM KNOWN AS.. ''WOMEN''. The guy has all the personality of a brick wall but he has a big chest, so that makes him interesting or something.<br />
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* Miles, the cat-boy, is perverted and perverted and also he'd quite like to have some sex some time because can you believe it he is ''perverted''. He also thinks the world should bow down to him because he's just SO AWESOME. And he's lead writer SoulKat's fursona, but SK adamantly denies this. That pretty much sums up the entire character.<br />
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* Taffy, the rabbit with pink hair, is described by the cast page as ''"young motherly maiden who takes great enjoyment in caring for others"''. That's bullshit-speak for "she's boring and prude but I bet if you convince her to shag you she's really kinky actually! Ohohoho!" She's there to appeal to the crowd who like their girls shy, compliant and ''in the kitchen''. She broke up with her boyfriend because he insisted on having sex with her before she was ready and now she does the dishes and not much else.<br />
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* A couple of wandering catgirls also drop by at some point, one of which, namely Sarah, is introduced as an [http://laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=56 exciteable] [http://laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=57 child]; as per tradition with furry comics (see: [http://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Concession Concession]), it's only a couple of strips until the little girl is [http://laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=58 baring some ass] and [http://laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=63 writhing around in panties] for the audience's <s>paedophilic</s> amusement. No, I don't care if she's got tits, reader. She has clearly been introduced as a character with the mind of a simple child; wanting to fuck her is dirty and wrong. That counts for [http://laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=69 dressing her in the tart outfit] too.<br />
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* I did warm a little to Rachael, the black cat girl, later in the story; like the villain-cow, she actually shows some character traits that aren't directly stereotypical. I wouldn't say she's developed enough for me to actually ''like'' her but there's potential there. Of course, she may just be pandering to the guys who like their women ''OOO FEISTY'' and I haven't noticed. That's very likely.<br />
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We are eventually introduced to the 'villain' of the story, Alejandra, who I ''think'' we're meant to hate when she [http://laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=52 points out] to Moora that she's an obnoxious slag. Personally my first impression is to think she's quite refreshing. Someone pointing out that Moora ''shouldn't'' be getting her ginormous tits out in front of strangers? ''Preposterous!'' Moora's farm is [http://laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=96 saved] at one point by some mysterious stranger and I assume this is meant to be a happy event, but really I feel kinda sorry for the villain chick. I mean, she's put actual fucking ''effort'' into her business, yet Moora gets away with riding along on the shoulders of under-age workers and men she lured in with her booty.<br />
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[[File:LL03.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Ha! Ha! Child prostitution is hilarious!]]<br />
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The villain is meant to be unlikeable, but really all that's 'villainous' about her is her personal vendetta against Moora; something you can't really fault her for, considering Moora's ability to be a complete bitch and have everyone [http://laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=174 love her anyway]. The 'bad guy' is the only character I've seen who seems to talk [http://laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=170 any fucking sense], and she's even a genuinely hard worker who has [http://laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=164 devoted her life] to her buisness; but of course, she has a ''brain'' and ''doesn't dress like a whore'' so she's boring and we hate her! BOOO!!<br />
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Overall I find the writing in ''Las Lindas'' to be incredibly patronising, shallow and ''boring''. Can you imagine [http://laslindas.katbox.net/index.php?strip_id=30 this comic] if Moora was a guy and the cat was a girl? It's classic [http://badwebcomics.wikidot.com/sabrina-online Zig-Zag] syndrome; the furry bitch gets away with it because she is in possession of two gravity-defying monster-breasts. Male characters are only there to obsess over the females, and god forbid any female character cover her fucking midriff at any point in time. Sweet jesus.<br />
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The villain, Alejandra, could possibly be considered an exception to the rule since she seems to have at least ''some'' personality and doesn't spend ten hours a day giggling and watching her breasts defy physics, but we're meant to dislike her so I'm guessing this isn't what the 'writer' intended for at all. In all honesty I may be bigging her up a little more than she deserves because it's nice to see someone that actually ''realizes'' that they're in Moora's little world of marysue.<br />
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===Author biography===<br />
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'''A temporary biography by The Luigiian.'''<br />
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It writes itself. The man's a furry artist that's put his work on every place you'd expect to find furry art, including DeviantArt, VCL, FurAffinity and the like. Born March 27, 1976, Gonzalo Reyes, the El Salvadoran Salivator, the Mesoamerican Masturbator, and the Pan-American Armadillo, has (get this) an armadillo fursona. He goes by many aliases, including Chalodillo (duh), Gonzreye, and Chalosan (also duh). The Internet is coming up blank on his art and writing qualifications, so I'm going to take a wild guess and say self-taught. (I personally cannot stand the way he draws his see-through cellophane hair and completely absent noses, but I guess since it's ZOMG an art style u guyz I can't go after him on it. But I will when I get the chance.)<br />
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This mysterious Mesoamerican (my last nickname for the man, I swear) has a lot we don't know about him, but we can guess he isn't the most accomplished artist.<br />
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Other than his porno.<br />
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===Conclusion===<br />
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'''(Also by The Luigiian)'''<br />
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I skimmed through ''Las Lindas'' today to see what it was about. When you're skimming, all you're really seeing is the art, mixed up with a few phrases here and there.<br />
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What many people don't realize about comics is that their art can tell a reader a great deal of what he or she needs to know about a story. ''Peanuts'' was simple and silly, and so had a simple, silly art style. ''Little Nemo'' was fantastical, and its drawings were beautiful, weird, wild things. ''Batman'' was dark, sinister; and so its drawing was dark, sinister, ominous stuff.<br />
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What we see in ''Las Lindas'' is simple, smutty, oppressive sex. Every panel has cleavage. Every page has breasts. I saw nothing of interest, save for breasts, pantyshots, and clothing that appeared to stay on by magic alone (or in this case the small nanorobots developed by character Ambar, the "High Prime of Neo Earth.")<br />
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I wish I knew more about Neo Earth. What is its geography? What makes it different from our Earth? Why was there a need for a "New Earth"? Why are cow furries the primary characters of this planet, with humans few and far between?<br />
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Alas, I will never know the answers to these questions. From Page 5 onward - a page that Reyes acknowledges himself was where the comic became an unrealized homage to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omaha_the_Cat_Dancer Omaha the Cat Dancer] - Chalosan threw away all the fascinating parts of the world he'd created, the possibilities of a strange and alien new version of our own Earth, and replaced them with balloon breasts and impossible curves.<br />
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How can we tell? Because that's all the art shows. There is nothing of interest to see here, besides those curves. And that's a damn shame.<br />
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===Links===<br />
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* [http://laslindas.katbox.net Las Lindas] - Link for the comic, if you still dare...<br />
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Comedy isn't easy. It requires a certain insight and way of thinking that isn't possessed by most people, and perfect timing and execution of punchlines can be difficult to achieve. At least, that's how it is for ''smart'' comedy. It's easy to make an unintellectual audience laugh at [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXkSEcCwU8A fart jokes and the disabled], or to create the illusion that you're funny by talking fast and swearing a lot. That is, if you're willing to cater to the lowest common denominator. If you're not, then you must acknowledge that, while there doesn't exist any formula for good comedy, there is still a right way and a wrong way to do it. <br />
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I wouldn't profess to be any sort of expert on the subject of comedy, but many of the comics reviewed on the Bad Webcomics Wiki fall into common traps that I can point out. In this article, I will list and describe some of the common mistakes that these comics make. In doing so, I hope to create a simple guide for avoiding some of the common pitfalls of humor. I'm not trying to suggest that these should be avoided entirely, but that if they are used, they should be used sparingly. <br />
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==Random Humor==<br />
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Surreal humor is a legitimate form of comedy. [[Wikipedia:Surreal humour|According to Wikipedia]], surreal humor involves "violations of causal reasoning with events and behaviors that are logically incongruent". In their essay "Elephants and Marshmallows", Mary K. Rodgers and Diana Pien describe surreal humor as intentional failure to resolve incongruities. For example, one of the many permutations of the [[Wikipedia:Elephant joke|elephant joke]] goes as follows: <br />
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{{Quote|Q: Why did the elephant sit on the marshmallow?<br><br />
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The humor stems from the absurd suggestion that an elephant could sit on a marshmallow and float in a cup of hot chocolate. When asked "why did the elephant sit on the marshmallow?", the logical mind imagines a normal-sized elephant sitting on a normal-sized marshmallow on the ground. However, the answer introduces the concept that the marshmallow was floating in a cup of hot chocolate, which wasn't suggested by the question. An elephant would not—and in fact ''could not''—sit on a marshmallow and float unless it was either an absurdly large marshmallow in an absurdly large cup of hot chocolate, or an absurdly small elephant. It's a subversion of basic human logic and expectation. Now, whether or not you feel that this joke is actually funny is entirely subjective, but the point is it employs wit and misdirection. It actually ''is'' a joke. <br />
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What we think of as "random humor", is an attempt to draw laughs from the unexpected, but without making use of wit or misdirection. Instead of subverting logic, random humor avoids logic entirely. A common example of random humor would be when a character blurts out a phrase that makes no sense in context, otherwise known as a "[[Wikipedia:Non sequitur (literary device)|non sequitur]]". For example, in the cartoon ''Invader Zim'', Zim shouts "Ivader's blood marches through my veins like [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoGE8mLYet0 GIANT RADIOACTIVE RUBBER PANTS!]" while pleading to the Almighty Tallest to allow him to be an Invader. <br />
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Many comics that rely on random humor feature characters who lack inhibitions and are prone to unprovoked—and often violent—"wacky" outbursts. Such characters often have quirks to substitute for a lacking personality. It's not uncommon for them to exhibit strange obsessions, often with a particular food item, especially one with a "funny-sounding" name such as tuna, waffles, wieners, cheese, etc. <br />
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The problem with random humor is that it's often symptomatic of lazy or unskilled writing, or worse: an attempt to appeal to an easily-amused audience. A skilled writer who respects their readers should not feel the need to resort to such a tactic, at least not to the extent that some of the comics reviewed on this Wiki do. It's also often more obnoxious than it is funny. For this reason, random humor should be used ''extremely'' sparingly.<br />
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==Fan Service==<br />
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What we refer to as "fan service" is any use of gratuitous sexual implication or imagery meant to catch attention. Many comics rely on it to supplement their humor. This most commonly takes the form of a comic exploiting its female characters to catch the attention of a target demographic of high school and college-aged males (the "frat boy crowd"). Such gags often involve female characters getting their clothes forcibly removed, a man's judgement being severely impaired by the sight of an attractive woman, a male character accidentally walking in on a female character bathing or getting dressed, and in some extreme cases, [[Strawberry Death Cake |blatant molestation]]. Gratuitous panty shots or even outright nudity are common in comics that feature such gags. <br />
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Comics that do this often feature [[Greg|one or two male protagonists surrounded by numerous attractive women]], or one or two female protagonists that use their feminine features to seduce and exploit weak-minded men. It is not uncommon for such comics to reek of wish-fulfillment fantasies (specifically, the erotic fantasies of the author). Gags about lesbianism are also common. <br />
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The problem with this type of humor is that, obviously, it demonstrates a lack of respect for women. Female characters in comics that feature fan service are often depicted as all having the same body type (usually the stereotypical "porn star" body) and often have identical faces. It's also common for female characters to appear ''exclusively'' for sexual humor, and for this reason, they often lack personalities beyond their identifiable archetypes (e.g., "tsundere", "dojikko", "meganekko", "otenba", etc. See [[Wikipedia:Glossary of anime and manga|Wikipedia's glossary of anime and manga terminology]] for more information regarding character archetypes). <br />
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Sexual humor has its place in romantic comedies where it may supplement the sexual tension and awkward moments that are often the basis of the humor, but while it's acceptable in moderation, in a progressive society, it should be considered inappropriate to make fan service the focal point for any work of comedy.<br />
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==Face Gags==<br />
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A face gag is simply when a character makes a "funny" face. Such gags are often more annoying than they are funny, especially when overused. It's natural and expected to see a character's reaction to a gag, but funny faces should only be used to enhance a gag, and not be used as the gag itself. <br />
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Face gags are perhaps most common in comics drawn in a style reminiscent of [http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8kbwGHaBDWY/SefwNM9Sy_I/AAAAAAAABiE/_p9xs_fmmwM/s400/vlcsnap-345156.png Western cartoons]. However, they are also common in manga-inspired comics, and it can be argued that when such comics do it, it's even worse because many wannabe manga artists rely on [http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs32/f/2008/204/9/9/52_anime_expressions_by_Jemstonecat.png stock facial expressions]. <br />
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One of the most common problems of manga-inspired comics is that nearly every character in a comic will have the same face. Thus, the artist only needs to master a handful of expressions rather than a full set of expressions that are unique to each character. This phenomenon isn't unique to manga-inspired comics, but is certainly the most prevalent among them. It can be symptomatic of laziness, or an inability or unwillingness to break a perceived artistic convention as many professionally-made anime and manga also do the same thing. <br />
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==Reference Gags==<br />
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Contrary to popular belief, satire and parody are not the same thing, and neither of them are necessarily comedic. A satire is simply a work in which a subject is ridiculed, usually in an attempt to provoke a change. For example, a work that points out the willingness of consumers to pay full price for a new iPhone every year when a new one comes out would be a social satire because it draws attention to an absurdity of our consumerist culture. A parody, however, is a work that mimics another work for the purpose of ridiculing it. Often, a parody may draw attention to plot holes or unfortunate implications in the target work. For example, a parody of ''Return of the Jedi'' may depict [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVHEmFzAX5U the flaming debris of the exploding Death Star raining down on Endor and crushing the Ewoks], and a parody of ''My Little Pony'' may feature [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxAJqvslV7M Applejack suffering apple-induced hallucinations and catatonia due to her inability to refuse a challenge]. Learn more about the differences between satire and parody [http://www.dailywritingtips.com/satire-parody-and-other-forms-of-ridicule/ here]. <br />
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Reference gags occur when an author [[Dueling Analogs|fails to understand how satire and parody work]]. A typical reference gag would be when a character blurts out a catchphrase from another work of fiction in response to something that's only tangentially related, or when a character from another work of fiction makes a cameo appearance because the situation vaguely resembles something that happens in the work they originated in. A reference gag may also take the form of a character from another work of fiction finding themselves in a situation in which they would not normally find themselves, and then depicting how such a situation may play out. For example, [http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=150 Darth Vader getting a parking ticket]. <br />
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It's also common for reference gags to not have any relation to the situation at all, and they may just come out of nowhere. In this sense, they may be considered a form of random humor. Many examples can be seen in the films of Jason Friedberg and Aaron Seltzer, such as the references to ''Happy Feet'', ''Transformers'', and Britney Spears shaving her head in ''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4x-EHPkKis Meet the Spartans]'' for no apparent reasons other than that they were topical at the time. <br />
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A reference gag hinges upon the reader's familiarity with the subject of the reference. As a result, anyone who isn't familiar with the subject being referenced isn't going to see the humor in the gag. For example, if a character in a comic says "may the Force be with you" and the reader has never seen ''Star Wars'', they will not be amused. The problem with reference gags is that even when the reader does know what's being referenced, it's rarely genuinely funny. If the reader laughs at all, it's usually less of a "ha ha, that's funny" kind of laugh and more of a "ha ha, I know where that's from" kind of laugh. This isn't humor. This is simply a recognition of shared interests between the reader and the author. For this reason, reference gags can be seen as a crutch used by unskilled writers who simply exploit the popularity of another work and basically leech off of their popularity. <br />
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==Running Gags==<br />
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Running gags occur when an author comes up with a gag that they think is funny, then they reuse that same gag over and over again. Sometimes, a reader may appreciate a throw-back to a favorite moment earlier in the work, and a well-executed running gag may get funnier the second or third time around, but when the same gag is used too many times, the reader may become weary. <br />
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The obvious problem with running gags is that they demonstrate the author's inability or disinterest in thinking up new material. [[Femmegasm|The author may also be mistaken in their belief that the gag is funny enough to be worth repeating.]] <br />
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==Shock Humor==<br />
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Black humor (or dark humor) is humor that stems from dire situations, such as impending death. Black humor isn't necessarily irreverent, and may in fact be used in a satirical way to draw attention to a perceived problem or injustice in society. For example, an author who opposes the death penalty may write a comedy about an innocent man who's wrongfully sent to death row. Black comedy may also stem from an [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4nknAzQPHE unfortunate implication]. <br />
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Shock humor, on the other hand, is humor that exploits taboo subject matter with the sole intent of shocking or disgusting the audience. For example, it may trivialize or even celebrate murder, rape, recent tragedies, sexual deviancy, racism, etc. Basically, it's any humor that aims to offend a group of people, whether it be an ethnic or religious group, a political movement, a fanbase, etc. Shock humor differs from black humor because shock humor doesn't make any attempt at satire or parody, or if it does, it does so at a very superficial level (i.e., showing a character from a popular movie being raped, showing fans of that movie getting killed, etc.). <br />
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Shock humor can work sometimes because when a reader or listener reads or hears something that they know is offensive to someone else, it tickles their sense of naughtiness. When the audience laughs, it's an acknowledgement that what they're witnessing is offensive. However, the problem with shock humor is that any laughs that may be had from it are less "ha ha, that was funny" laughs and more "ha ha, I can't believe he said that" laughs. In other words, it's not genuinely humorous. It also doesn't help that Western audiences are becoming increasingly desensitized to shock humor due to the rise of such cartoons as ''South Park'', ''Family Guy'', ''Drawn Together'', etc. This means that authors who rely on shock humor will be forced to keep upping the ante, and the problem there is that once a certain threshold is crossed, attempts to be shocking will come across as contrived. In other words, an author may be accused of [[Shädbase|"trying too hard to be shocking"]].<br />
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==Rants==<br />
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Comedy that takes the form of angry rants can be done well, as demonstrated by George Carlin and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ANrvQC4wIk Lewis Black]. The thing about rants is that they aren't funny in-and-of themselves. Anybody can get on a soapbox and complain about something they don't like. That's why a rant must be interspersed with humorous observations and juxtapositions, usually to the effect of satire. For example, if George Carlin simply points out that an extra-terrestrial civilization would be disgusted by ours, that in itself wouldn't be funny, but pointing out ''why'' they would be disgusted by our civilization through [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TX3pPOuIXc a rapid succession of observations about our culture and barbaric practices] makes the bit much more effective because it's satirical. However, this requires a certain delivery and sense of timing that can't really be achieved in a written medium. <br />
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In a comic strip, having a character simply yell about something that angers them isn't funny. If all you're going to do is have a character stand around while he complains about something that isn't even present in the scene, with no interesting or relevant visuals, you might as well just write an essay instead. For a rant to work in a comic, the ranting character needs one or more counterparts to play off him to exemplify what the ranter is talking about. For example, two characters might be ranting about how there's never anything good on TV anymore because all of the networks are trying to cater to the most vapid of audiences, then a third character (who's been previously established as being particularly dumb) suddenly comes in and starts talking about something that happened on ''Here Comes Honey Boo Boo''. <br />
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A counterpart may also be used to highlight a logical fallacy or hypocrisy on the ranter's part. For example, a character might rant about how bottled water is overpriced, then another character asks him why he doesn't just drink from a nearby public fountain, to which the ranter replies that he refuses to drink municipal water on the grounds that he's "not a Communist". <br />
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The problem with this form of comedy, however, is that if it's taken too far, it can lead to "[[Wikipedia:Straw man|strawmanning]]". See [http://badwebcomics.wdfiles.com/local--files/hathor-the-cow-goddess/Hator1.bmp this rant] from ''[[Hathor the Cow Goddess]]'': Hathor accuses those who are disgusted by public breastfeeding of being against feeding babies in general, which is not the case, and completely fails to address their side of the argument. For more information regarding the expression of opinions in a written medium, see [[The VERY IMPORTANT OPINIONS]]. <br />
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|'''Original review author:'''<br />
|[http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/the-luigiian The Luigiian]; images and captions by [http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/lesbot Lesbot]<br />
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|'''Webcomic name:'''<br />
|[http://bristled.xepher.net/ Bristled]<br />
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|'''Author:'''<br />
|[http://www.furaffinity.net/user/azraelle/ Stephanie Mebius] <br />
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|'''Start Date:'''<br />
|October 31, 2006<br />
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|'''End Date:'''<br />
|October 30, 2008 Came back to life, then died again. Author declared it over on July 07, 2010<br />
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|'''Genre:'''<br />
|Furry Comedy<br />
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|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
|CAD worship, sure, but more importantly Mary Sue-ism in the Buckleyan tradition.<br />
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|'''Storyline:'''<br />
|[[File:Wiki.png|65px]]It's a boring blog comic.<br />
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|'''Characters:'''<br />
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Picture CAD starring furries. Their personalities are clearly structured to ape CAD's straight-man/silly-man formula.<br />
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The detailing isn't very good. This artist draws porn of her characters on her FurAffinity. <br />
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=== Background ===<br />
Like many awful comics, '''Bristled''' got its start through someone's forays on ''Second Life''. In this case, Azraelle Wormser and Ruac Lycia are both SL characters. Be sure to find them on the game, because I'm sure Az (real name Stephanie Mebius) would just ''looooove'' some friends. She was about to name her comic "Fur Real" and "Fur Hire", but finally she saw a picture of her Mary-Sue, Azraelle, with bristled fur (she was probably bristling because she had ESP and therefore could see the atrocious comic she was to be featured in.) <br />
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[[File:BRI2.jpg|thumb|250px|right|Of all the webcomics to suck up to...]]<br />
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Wikifur also has the following information to impart. It offends me to no end that both the Bad Webcomics Wiki's structure and ''Bristled'''s artistic inspiration come from the same place. No, wait...<br />
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"In the episode "Inner Conflict," two small figures that represent Beth's good and evil sides appear on her shoulders. The "good," who turns out was just there to find a good place to read, was in fact reading The Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri."<br />
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Wow! That's fascinating! How'd they figure that out? The book's cover [http://bristled.xepher.net/view.php?date=2007-04-24 in that comic] is unreadable. And I'm not vomiting, which suggests that my site doesn't have anything in common with this comic's. Please don't disrupt my peace of mind any more than you have, Mebius.<br />
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Regarding how I came to know of this comic: I found it while looking over the Something Awful forum thread "[http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2885203&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 I fixed Ctrl+Alt+Del for everyone]" (subscription required). Apparently, the comic's author, Stephanie Mebius, is one of the few furries who enjoy the comic so much that [http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2885203&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=91#post350006696 she got an account on their forums].<br />
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Who knew?<br />
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=== Story ===<br />
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Kind of? There's "kind of" a story in Bristled. Yes, I think that's the best I can put it. More specifically, "three roommates, two of which are ditsy and stupid, one of which is a bitchy rabbit, go about having OMG LULZARIOUS ADVENTURES WITH EACH OTHER." In ''Bristled'', the storyline is practically separated into "episodes", or as webcomics geeks like to call them, "story arcs." Each arc ends in maybe a dozen or so strips. Whether it's Mary-Sue Azraelle killing her coworkers, [http://bristled.xepher.net/view.php?date=2007-04-15 Beth] [http://bristled.xepher.net/view.php?date=2007-06-15 being a bitch], or New Demon-Roommate Ruac/Axenos impersonating Beth and [http://bristled.xepher.net/view.php?date=2007-06-07 getting her male coworkers in trouble for sexual harassment], you can be certain that these story arcs will be enthralling adventures to absolutely nobody except for Mebius herself.<br />
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=== Downfall ===<br />
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In case her CAD fangirlism isn't enough for you, the comic itself should suffice. "Azraelle"'s Bristled isn't terribly sexual (although her FurAffinity account, surprise surprise, is rife with [http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1185154/ furry] [http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1158557/ porn] and [http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1666048/ lesbian] [http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1593912/ porn]). However, it ''is'' poorly drawn, has seen no major artistic improvements since its inception, and for all practical purposes doesn't have a storyline. It's ''got'' a "storyline", in the same sense that on ''Home Improvement'' Tim Taylor, Jill Taylor, their kids, Al Borland, and Wilson were the main characters in each episode, and in each episode they had some sort of "adventure" that would close by the end, but this only counts as a "storyline" if you're feeling pretty friggin' generous.<br />
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=== Art review ===<br />
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No, no, NO. Mebius' style, at ''best'', appears almost to emulate [[Ctrl+Alt+Del]] in its "B^U" style, to the point that it uses the same font as CAD. At worst, it's just completely wonky. Side profiles have the mouths on the cheek of the character's face, rather than at the front where a mouth should go. In front view, her rabbit character's nose [http://bristled.xepher.net/view.php?date=2006-11-17 looks like a camel's]. Tails are (in some of the worst examples) placed in the middle back rather than at the tailbone. Characters at work and in public places alternate between [http://bristled.xepher.net/view.php?date=2007-05-06 being] [http://bristled.xepher.net/view.php?date=2007-06-02 barefoot] and [http://bristled.xepher.net/view.php?date=2007-05-13 wearing] [http://bristled.xepher.net/view.php?date=2007-06-07 shoes] for absolutely ''no'' discernible reason, and the feet are almost always bigger than the shoes should be able to hold. <br />
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In [http://bristled.xepher.net/view.php?date=2006-11-03 the example I added to this page], I was about to attack Mebius for the "disappearing ketchup bottle," as there should be a little bit peeking out from behind her <strike>dog</strike> <strike>fox</strike> squirrel coworker. Then I realized that the joke was that she was using the ketchup to make it look like she'd bloodily dispatched "George". ''Ugh.'' It's not much to discuss, but seriously, who's stupid enough to mistake ketchup for blood? It's so ridiculous, so absolutely stupid that I didn't even catch the punchline until I'd already started up Photoshop. And the next joke, on the next page, is [http://bristled.xepher.net/view.php?date=2006-11-07 even worse]. Seriously, what the Hell, Mebius?<br />
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=== Writing review ===<br />
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Which, appropriately enough, brings me to the writing on ''Bristled''. I don't even know what to say, really, with Bristled's writing. I would say that it's just boring and vapid in its plot and mundane story, but then there's also the fact that "Azzy" relies so much on the standard webcomics formula. She's intent on using this webcomic as a blog. Her Mary-Sue attacks faceless coworkers. She hates waking up in the morning. You can pretty much determine the rest. You'd might as well put it into a mathematical formula and use it as a template for every single webcomic every hack is going to make, ''ever''.<br />
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Oh... she does have one thing that she's got that ''absolutely no other webcomic has'' FOR SERIOUS YOU GUYS. It's her trademark meme-type phrase, "[http://bristled.xepher.net/view.php?date=2007-02-18 Holy freakin' Bejeezus!]" Yes, so funny. So hilarious that [http://www.furaffinity.net/view/416261/ she's got it on her FurAffinity as a stand-alone parody joke]. She'll probably have it on a "witty" T-shirt in her [http://www.printfection.com/bristled/Apparel/_s_114140 store], once she's done plastering clothing with pictures of her Mary Sue holding a shovel like she's about to hit somebody. Oh, yeah, and she's got [http://www.furaffinity.net/view/509241/ demotivators] on FurAffinity too. She's just at the cutting edge of comedy.<br />
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And, yes, she [http://bristled.xepher.net/view.php?date=2007-03-25 loves her CAD references]. She even credits Tim Buckley for the CAD characters in this one. But not [[VG Cats]] creator Scott Ransoomair for Pantsman. Hey, it's a little bit changed from the original, that doesn't count as plagiarism at all.<br />
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The [http://bristled.xepher.net/bios.php character biographies] are a good example of the shit writing and characterisation that is allowed to run rampant in this comic:<br />
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* '''Azraelle''' is the main character and Mary Sue. Her bio tells us that her ''"left eye is blue while right eye is brown"''. Miss Mebius seems to have forgotten that she draws all of her characters with only little black dots for eyes. We're also told that she enjoys delights such as ''"music, games, slacking off, whacking people with shovels, food, shiny objects."'' Well, thank goodness she's not just a generic wacky character!<br />
* '''Beth''', the straight woman to all of Azraelle's stupidity. Like the aformentioned racoon she's also advertised to us with an interesting fact that can't be seen or aknowledged in the comic; ''"Occasionally her southern accent slips out"''. (Hint: Comics do not make noise, Miss Mebius.) She [http://bristled.xepher.net/view.php?date=2006-10-31 makes fun of Az for getting into the garbage]. She gets angry and acts hateful to everyone. She's [http://bristled.xepher.net/view.php?date=2007-06-15 apparently upset] because her [http://bristled.xepher.net/view.php?date=2007-06-24 former husband] tricked her into [http://bristled.xepher.net/view.php?date=2007-07-14 consuming a weight loss drug] that caused her significant problems.<br />
* '''Ruac''', who is a scary scary demon type character, or is very similar to a demon that continually pops up in the comic.<br />
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All of these characters are female. The males [http://bristled.xepher.net/view.php?date=2007-03-31 are] [http://bristled.xepher.net/view.php?date=2007-05-09 depressingly] [http://bristled.xepher.net/view.php?date=2007-05-13 pathetic] [http://bristled.xepher.net/view.php?date=2007-05-25 throughout]. Most are just [http://bristled.xepher.net/view.php?date=2007-04-21 co-workers] that happen to be [http://www.example.com good laugh-fodder] for the female characters to [http://bristled.xepher.net/view.php?date=2007-08-29 lash out at] through [http://bristled.xepher.net/view.php?date=2007-09-12 random violence, or in this particular case the threat of random violence] and of course the ever-present [http://bristled.xepher.net/view.php?date=2007-09-08 potential sexual-harassment type issues]. Clearly, Mebius doesn't have a grudge against men ''at all''.<br />
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=== Author biography ===<br />
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Artist "Steph" gives herself the great honour of her own spot on the character bio page of her comic's website. Apparently her 'odd quirk' is that she ''"Has this crazy idea that drawing a comic will make her famous"''. Clearly, gone are the days when people drew comics because they enjoyed working with the medium. Not since ''Buckley'' has there been somebody on the internet so determined to make a living off of something that they know ''absolutely fucking nothing about''.<br />
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Mebius is an art whore, and just loves to draw lesbians and random depictions of furry sex. I call her an "art whore" because her FurAffinity account says, "I enjoy drawing and admiring furry artwork (not so much the pornographic stuff though)." But [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/azraelle/ her account] [http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1158557/ is] [http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1171217/ full] [http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1377582/ of] [http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1547259/ furry] [http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1347425/ porn]. So I'm assuming she's doing it for some easy cash. And since Azraelle is obviously her Mary-Sue, that means [http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1473562/ she's drawing porn] [http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1056936/ of her self-insertion character] for money. Which pretty much makes her a prostitute, excepting without the characteristic "wide canyon syndrome".<br />
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=== Conclusion ===<br />
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There's really nothing left to say. You've been warned: ''Bristled'' is a ''bad'' webcomic. It's unfunny, packed with bad art and bad writing, and it's bland, boring, and banal. It's not quite as bad as ''[[Jack]]'', not nearly as good as ''Sluggy Freelance'', and not quite as mediocre as ''[[Real Life]]''. It is, indeed, the ''Ctrl+Alt+Del'' of furry comics. The author of this comic probably takes that as a compliment. It, quite definitely, is not. <br />
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=== Links ===<br />
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* [http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2885203&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=91 Something Awful's first taste of Azraelle.]<br />
* [http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2885203&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=92#post350008111 B^U F^U kley's rallying the furries.]<br />
* [http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2885203&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=93#post350030773 All it took was an Azzy post to the CAD forums] to get on SA's shit list.<br />
* [http://www.cad-forums.com/member.php?u=30778 Location of Azraelle's CAD forums account.]<br />
* [http://www.cad-forums.com/showpost.php?p=2761459&postcount=76 Example no. 1] of Azraellle's posting style<br />
* [http://www.cad-forums.com/showpost.php?p=2758366&postcount=72 Example no. 2]<br />
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|'''Original review author:'''<br />
|[http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/oddguy oddguy] <br />
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|'''Webcomic name:'''<br />
|[http://lolsketch.net/ LOLsketch]<br />
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|'''Author:'''<br />
|[http://travis.lolsketch.net/ Travis Duane and Kym Cork] <br />
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|'''Start Date:'''<br />
|May 3rd, 2010<br />
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|'''End Date:'''<br />
|Ongoing<br />
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|'''Genre:'''<br />
|Since "shit" is not a genre, I'll go with "humor".<br />
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|'''Defining Flaw:'''<br />
|Least funny thing in existence.<br />
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The artist of this comic is the first man to ever fail at drawing stick figures. In a way, that in itself is amazing.<br />
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It's a gag-a-day type of comic, so it has no story... sadly there are no jokes either.<br />
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|'''Characters:'''<br />
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You would be forgiven to think that these are nameless characters whose sole purpose is to deliver a punchline and be forgotten, but a closer look at the "about" page will teach you that they are supposed to have [http://lolsketch.net/about/ names and personalities].<br />
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If anyone would have actually read this comic and left a comment, its writer might realize how bad it is. But so far, I seem to be the only person aware of this comic's existence.<br />
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== Background==<br />
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I believe that in order to warrant a review on the BWW, a comic must be judged by two factors. The first is how bad it is, and the second is how notorious it is. That way, even a comic like [[Las Lindas]], that is by any standard at least drawn with some competence, will receive a review prior to something like [http://picklejuice.comicgenesis.com/ The Office Bitch], which is far worse but not notable enough. Comics with aggressively obnoxious authors or a fanbase that does not coincide with the comic's quality to an insulting degree are given priority over ones that are bad but no one could give a shit about.<br />
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Yet, once every hundred years, there comes something so incredibly bad that it needs to be pulled out of obscurity only so that it can be laughed at and ridiculed.<br />
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That thing is [http://lolsketch.net/ "LOLsketch"].<br />
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== Downfall== <br />
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The downfall of most comics on this website began the moment their respective authors posted the first page on the Internet. But LOLsketch's failure predates the comic and begins the moment Travis Duane's mother became pregnant and decided to keep it.<br />
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== Art review==<br />
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The art fails in ways no artist has failed before. From the first glance, it should be evident to anyone with eyes where this comic gets its inspiration. Yes, it's [http://www.explosm.net/ Explosm], the home of [[Cyanide and Happiness]]. In a way, it's not even bad art; it's that there is no art. At least bad artists try to make something and fail. This man simply tried to copy something and failed.<br />
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Seriously, how do you pick the worst-drawn comic on the Internet as a model and then go down from there? Travis Duane is like a man who chooses the last place contestant in the Special Olympics as his role model but still manages to start the race by tripping over the very first hurdle and breaking his neck.<br />
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You know what else? At least the C&H guys have sort of an excuse: it's a comic where shock and aw is the punchline, so blob people make it a bit less gross and give a sort of juxtaposition between the dark tone of the humor and lighthearted character designing. Also they have proven in the past with their flash animations that they have some talent. Heck, one of them made the [http://www.newgrounds.com/collection/joezombie Joe Zombie] series on Newgounds, which as far as stick figure cartoons go, was not half bad. The same thing can be said about [http://xkcd.com/ XKCD]. Sure it's bad, but it's all just Internet humor, so in a way, stick figures are appropriate. What about [http://lol-comics.livejournal.com/ lol_comics]? Equally vulgar and badly drawn, but unlike this pile of trash, it's poorly drawn on purpose and actually funny. In this aspect LOLsketch is the lowest of the low even among stick figure comics. It starts its way on the bottom tier, and with a combination of zero effort and no talent, finds a way to burrow even deeper.<br />
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==Humor review==<br />
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There is no bigger waste in this world than a comedy that isn't funny. When you read a story of any genre and if it's good you enjoy it, if it's bad you can at least understand the plot or laugh at its poor quality or become enraged by it. When you read a joke strip if it's funny you laugh, if it isn't you just pointlessly wasted a moment of your life. This is the problem with "LOLsketch" and indeed with any comic that goes out of its way to insure you of its hilarity right there in the title. Mostly this only serves as testimony to the author not knowing how unfunny he is.<br />
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This comic doesn't just fail at humor, no. It acts sort of like a compendium of every way you could possibly ruin a joke. Let me show you:<br />
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Thinking vulgarity is the same as humor: the punchline is always [http://lolsketch.net/comics/rear-ended/ AIDS!] [http://lolsketch.net/comics/nohair/ CANCER!] [http://lolsketch.net/comics/i-love-you/ DEATH!] ... hahaha hilarious.<br />
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[http://lolsketch.net/comics/cake/ Old] [http://lolsketch.net/comics/get-to-da-choppa/ memes] are not the same as jokes.<br />
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[http://lolsketch.net/comics/letter-to-puppet/ Unnecessary panel.] This one might have actually made me smile a bit if it was left as a single panel joke.<br />
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[http://lolsketch.net/comics/in-love/ Needlessly drawn out jokes], but this would not have been funny anyway.<br />
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[http://lolsketch.net/comics/new-shirts/ Trying to advertise his cheap crap in the comic.] Yes, this idiot has the nerve to try and [http://www.zazzle.com.au/lolsketch+gifts sell you shit].<br />
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[http://lolsketch.net/comics/snowball-fight/ Punchline is "there is no punchline"], but there is no joke either.<br />
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[http://lolsketch.net/comics/new-xbox360/ Punchline is nudity], but there is still no joke.<br />
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[http://lolsketch.net/comics/new-xbox360/ Making fun of the art being bad,] instead of actually fixing it.<br />
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[http://lolsketch.net/comics/finger/ Making fun of the art being bad AND explaining the joke!] Also breaking the fourth wall.<br />
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[http://lolsketch.net/comics/pull-my-finger/ THEN DOING THE SAME JOKE AGAIN!] THE ART IS BAD! HAHAHAHA!<br />
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[http://lolsketch.net/comics/dont-feed-bears/ Doing visual gags he does not have the art skills to pull off], although this one could have been drawn by John Kricfalusi himself and it still wouldn't be funny.<br />
[http://lolsketch.net/comics/warm-apple-pie/ The only time he puts any effort into his drawings, it's not funny, it's just gross.]<br />
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[http://lolsketch.net/comics/pedo-santa/ This joke has been] [http://lolsketch.net/comics/dino/ done a million times], also much better.<br />
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[http://lolsketch.net/comics/backwards/ Thinking any visual trick constitutes a joke,] but no, it has to actually have a punchline, Travis.<br />
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[http://lolsketch.net/comics/mugged/ Thinking] [http://lolsketch.net/comics/tip-jar/ any] [http://lolsketch.net/comics/trojan-horse/ pun] [http://lolsketch.net/comics/i-love-you-2/ is] [http://lolsketch.net/comics/third-leg/ automatically] [http://lolsketch.net/comics/change/ a] [http://lolsketch.net/comics/pinch-that-ass/ joke.] [http://lolsketch.net/comics/watch-out-for-the-vampie/ Including some puns that aren't even puns.]<br />
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[http://lolsketch.net/comics/superman/ These] [http://lolsketch.net/comics/ice-cream-dog/ are] [http://lolsketch.net/comics/black-cats-revenge/ not] [http://lolsketch.net/comics/fridge/ even] [http://lolsketch.net/comics/cat-killer/ jokes,] [http://lolsketch.net/comics/binge-drink/ they] '''[http://lolsketch.net/comics/match/ make] [http://lolsketch.net/comics/the-walls/ NO]''' '''[http://lolsketch.net/comics/owls-are-cool/ SENSE!!!]'''<br />
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Do you see what I mean now? It's so incredibly unfunny. There are maybe five or six jokes that are honestly hilarious, and even then, it's just by some amazing coincidence. This is the first comic I have ever read where I felt like I wasn't laughing '''WITH''' the artist but rather '''AT''' him.<br />
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In a way, this comic reminded me of an old [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz_A6K9rSko Eddie Murphy routine], where he told about how he used to look up to Richard Prior and his dirty jokes, so when he did his first stand up act at the age of fifteen, he did it all about shitting because that's the only dirty thing he knew about. This comic is sort of the same; it's like an eight-year-old who heard a naughty word and started repeating it constantly, believing himself to be some sort of comedy genius, until his mother catches him and whoops his ass. In a similar fashion, Travis read Cyanide & Happiness and is now repeating what he saw without any understanding of what (allegedly) makes it funny. Except Travis isn't eight, he's '''[http://lolsketch.net/comics/cake/ FUCKING NINETEEN!!!]'''<br />
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== Author biography ==<br />
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[[File:166690 184378101594975 1314306 n.jpg|thumb|right|I will give money to anyone who can explain to me why this is supposed to be funny.]]<br />
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A comic so bad has to raise some questions in your mind like, "What kind of man could have made this?" "Is it even a man?" and "Is it possible to travel back in time to warn myself about reading this comic?" The answer to the third question is of course "No, retard", but the first two have a much more unexpected answer.<br />
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It's three people... it takes the combined effort of [http://lolsketch.net/about/ three people] to produce something I would have attributed to half of a man or possibly some kind of man/cow hybrid that has somehow acquired an Internet connection. The individuals in question are Travis Duane, his girlfriend Kym Cork, and Robert Smith with whom Travis shares a blog. The latter two, Travis claims, help him with the comic. Although, if I were his friend, the help I would offer would come in the form of a sledge hammer to his computer monitor.<br />
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Another thing that bothers me is that this man not only makes one comic but rather '''[http://lolsketch.net/about/ three]''' '''[http://shortmen.lolsketch.net/ of]''' '''[http://keith.lolsketch.net/ them!!!]''' Like in the story ''The Little Prince'', you see that a man can be both lazy and hardworking at the same time. So even though he puts literally no effort into his first comic, he feels the need to have two more that are just as shitty. [http://travis.lolsketch.net/ And his partner Robert Smith is apparently working on a fourth]. What is it with these people? Just like in my review of [http://badwebcomics.wikidot.com/jack-the-other-one "the other Jack"], I find that the most untalented people are not satisfied with making ONE bad comic. No, they have to make FOUR!<br />
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Other than that, there isn't much to say about Travis. He does not reveal much about himself, not that anyone cares. All I can say is that I assume he is not a particularly intelligent individual if he is incapable of understanding how bad his comic really is.<br />
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== Conclusion==<br />
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I made this review out of pity. I'm still not sure what I was trying to achieve. I saw Travis and his [http://www.lolsketch.net/forum/ completely dead forum], his [http://www.make.lolsketch.net/ "make your own LOLsketch"] game that is meant to make it easy for his non-existent fans to make him fan art ([http://lolsketch.net/artists/ no one ever does]), I saw his [http://travis.lolsketch.net/ blog] that no one comments on, I saw the "project wonderful" ads at the top and edge of his website that no one is willing to pay for so he has to use them to advertise himself, and I just felt sorry for him. I only hope that with this review, the comic might get some attention. Enough for the comic's creator to understand what he's doing and stop. And if not, since it will never be successful, I hope it will be at least a little bit infamous.<br />
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In my mind, Travis and his comic are like the smelly kid playing alone in the playground, and if I push him off the swing he should be grateful that at least someone acknowledges his existence.<br />
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== Links ==<br />
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* <strike>[http://lolsketch.net/about/ The comic's website.] There are no other links that I can add because I'm the first person to ever pay any attention to this.</strike> Deleted forever... Thank you Jesus.<br />
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